***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[QUOTE=Andreezy;4799188]you are right, it shouldnt matter if you are stable.
but who knows now im even more confused.
i installed the set of 12GB 2000MHZ and set uncore to reg x1.5 to start testing and LinX gave me 82Gflops, i didnt save that run and tested again and
the Gflops are up ~80gflops average, i saved a screen capture.
both 12gb kit 1600mhz and 2000mhz performed almost 100% identical in
3DMark Vantage in score.:shrug:


Increasing the uncore to 2x the ram speed should see a significant improvement in performance, your better off running the ram at 1600mhz uncore 3200mhz.

Eva2000 compared uncore and performance and the results proved uncore really effect performance.

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Originally Posted by tomovk

What do you think about using loadline calibration on this board? If i need 1.4v for 4.6ghz, is it better for the cpu if i set 50% LLC, and the idle voltage is higher, dropping on load, or set 100% LLC, and have lower voltage in idle, so it climbs to 1.39v on load?

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I think it's good in all situations to have LLC 100%. My chip is very unhappy when there is vdroop. It may be a chip-to-chip thing, but it seems all the heavy overclockers use it.

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Originally Posted by Sanousie

Increasing the uncore to 2x the ram speed should see a significant improvement in performance, your better off running the ram at 1600mhz uncore 3200mhz.

Eva2000 compared uncore and performance and the results proved uncore really effect performance.

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Seems the opposite for me. :( More gflops at 2ghz 9-9-9-25-110-1T mem with 3.6ghz uncore than 1600mhz 7-8-7-24-88-1T mem with 3.2ghz uncore. I tried this in diagnostic mode last night, also. Still ~60gflops with all mem.

I played with vQPI up to 1.425v last night. 1.4120v allowed me to get my uncore up to x19(3.8ghz), but I couldn't hit that magical 4ghz. The step from 3.2 to 3.6 only needed .0125v increase. The step from 3.6 to 3.8 needed .062v! Almost 5 times times more!!! I think I need 1.48v+ for 4ghz uncore with my memory. :down:

1.425v and pcie freq of 104 allowed me to fully stabilize 210bclk tho! I don't think I want to run 20x210 for 4.2 instead of 21x200 tho... I don't think the difference will be that much, and the added volts bring my temps up from 84c max linx to 88c max.

Things I still want to do some more:
Retest with higher vQPI while dropping ram to 2T. This should help with uncore stability, I think?
Try to get linx stable with 4.5ghz HT Off just to get into the 4.5ghz club. There was a 990x shot of 25x180 doing 91Gflops with 6/6 instead of 6/12! My goal is to beat that with 6/6.

Also thinking about getting an external rad box. Maybe one of those 9x120mm deals. Was also considering like an xspc radstand. Plumb those things in with some QDC's so I can switch it in and out of the loop easily. For 24/7, the triple 120mm rad setup I have is fine, but it just lacks the capacity required for those higher clocks. I see everyone doing 4.5 with like 70-80c, and I'm doing 4.2 with 80+...

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Originally Posted by Sanousie

Increasing the uncore to 2x the ram speed should see a significant improvement in performance, your better off running the ram at 1600mhz uncore 3200mhz.

Eva2000 compared uncore and performance and the results proved uncore really effect performance.

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I am now using the 12GB 2000MHZ 9-11-9-27 Kit and trying
to uncore 2x @4000Mhz

I did a comparison of 12GB Patriot DDR3 Kits 1600Mhz/2000Mhz
i ran both test @ 4.2GHZ with same cpu voltage and blck and
both the 1600mhz and 2000mhz kits gave me almost identical
benchmark result in 3DMark Vantage and behaved similar in Linx.

in all fairness the 12GB 1600mhz was uncore @ 2x with timings of 8-8-8-24
the 12GB 2000mhz was uncore @ 1.5x with timings of 9-11-9-27

it is not easy to be Linx stable with x2 uncore on GulfTown (i7 970) and 12GB 2000mhz, needs major qpi above 4.2Ghz.

so conclusion so far is, you can have 1600mhz ram behave just as fast as 2000mhz ram if you uncore @ 2x (in my results)
price is the thing here that gets me, one kit is worth twice as the other:rofl:

@zoson.
i seem to need more than 1.4v qpi also to uncore almost anything @4.5GHZ
i am trying 25 multi and 180bclk to get 4,515mhz and
cpu 1.370v/qpi 1.385v and so far no go on LinX:mad:

p.s.
maybe the 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 kit i have is more stable for 4.5Ghz.

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Originally Posted by zoson

Seems the opposite for me. :( More gflops at 2ghz 9-9-9-25-110-1T mem with 3.6ghz uncore than 1600mhz 7-8-7-24-88-1T mem with 3.2ghz uncore. I tried this in diagnostic mode last night, also. Still ~60gflops with all mem.

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next time you test LinX with all memory, try to run it when you have allocated more than 11GB for LinX.

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Originally Posted by zoson

I played with vQPI up to 1.425v last night. 1.4120v allowed me to get my uncore up to x19(3.8ghz), but I couldn't hit that magical 4ghz. The step from 3.2 to 3.6 only needed .0125v increase. The step from 3.6 to 3.8 needed .062v! Almost 5 times times more!!! I think I need 1.48v+ for 4ghz uncore with my memory. :down:

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i will try to uncore 2x 4000mhz using 21 multi and 200bclk.
i will also try using 180bclk and diff multi to see can use less qpi v, so i can
do 2x uncore @4000mhz with ram at 2000mhz.
if GulfTown qpi v is max 1.4v under factory spec, i'll assume its R&D.

Always nice to see one ...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2...cf7378h.th.jpg


nice temp under wb cooling...

Nice, it's the plexi twin of my board :D

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Originally Posted by Andreezy

I am now using the 12GB 2000MHZ 9-11-9-27 Kit and trying
to uncore 2x @4000Mhz

I did a comparison of 12GB Patriot DDR3 Kits 1600Mhz/2000Mhz
i ran both test @ 4.2GHZ with same cpu voltage and blck and
both the 1600mhz and 2000mhz kits gave me almost identical
benchmark result in 3DMark Vantage and behaved similar in Linx.

in all fairness the 12GB 1600mhz was uncore @ 2x with timings of 8-8-8-24
the 12GB 2000mhz was uncore @ 1.5x with timings of 9-11-9-27

it is not easy to be Linx stable with x2 uncore on GulfTown (i7 970) and 12GB 2000mhz, needs major qpi above 4.2Ghz.

so conclusion so far is, you can have 1600mhz ram behave just as fast as 2000mhz ram if you uncore @ 2x (in my results)
price is the thing here that gets me, one kit is worth twice as the other:rofl:

@zoson.
i seem to need more than 1.4v qpi also to uncore almost anything @4.5GHZ
i am trying 25 multi and 180bclk to get 4,515mhz and
cpu 1.370v/qpi 1.385v and so far no go on LinX:mad:

p.s.
maybe the 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 kit i have is more stable for 4.5Ghz.

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I can only get my ram stable up to 1900 Mhz. 2000 Mhz and 4000 Uncore is a complete no go.

I'm running at 1600 Mhz Cas 6 instead, 2000+ just wont work at all. I was thinking of buying new ram, but I found out from reading around that its not the ram thats at fault, the problem is that X58 simply doesnt like 2000 Mhz ram :(

X58's can run DDR3-2000MHz no problem, it's the CPU IMC that is usually the limiting factor on 1366. Some IMC's are so bad they need 1.65 Vtt to cope with DDR3-2000MHz. If your ram and IMC are up to it the R3E should handle it no problem.

Here's my setup doing a quick 100% run on HCI memtest testing all available memory.


DDR3-2008 MHz | 8-8-8-24 1T tRFC 110 | B2B 0 | 1.561 Vdimm | 3588 MHz uncore | 1.296 Vtt

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...mtestsmall.png

i was able to get 1866 to go at 2x uncore on here with the same tight timings. i still can't get my mem to have even timings and not stagered.

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Originally Posted by bhavv

I can only get my ram stable up to 1900 Mhz. 2000 Mhz and 4000 Uncore is a complete no go.

I'm running at 1600 Mhz Cas 6 instead, 2000+ just wont work at all. I was thinking of buying new ram, but I found out from reading around that its not the ram thats at fault, the problem is that X58 simply doesnt like 2000 Mhz ram :(

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i am starting to think 2000mhz ram is good for GulfTown cpu.

although i was able to run 6gb 2000mhz ram with bloomfield W3570 and i7 950.
12GB 2000Mhz was so easy with i7 970, that i am trying to break 4.5Ghz using the headroom this kit gives me from ~1600Mhz---->2000Mhz.
i did 4.4Ghz and i need cpu v over 1.4v for 4.5Ghz.......:mad
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/85gflops.png

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Originally Posted by Andreezy

i am starting to think 2000mhz ram is good for GulfTown cpu.

although i was able to run 6gb 2000mhz ram with bloomfield W3570 and i7 950.
12GB 2000Mhz was so easy with i7 970, that i am trying to break 4.5Ghz using the headroom this kit gives me from ~1600Mhz---->2000Mhz.
i did 4.4Ghz and i need cpu v over 1.4v for 4.5Ghz.......:mad
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/85gflops.png

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You should be able to tell what kind of vcore you'll need for 4.5 GHz by looking at what your CPU needs for various lower speeds. It will scale pretty much linearly until a certain point where it will become less linear. You can work out how many mv you need per 100MHz increase, and work out what the CPU would need at higher speeds if scaling was linear.

DDR3-2000MHz ram is nice, but honestly quite unnecessary for daily use. If you compared normal tasks and time taken or FPS in your games, you'd see barely any difference between something like DDR3-1600 C6, DDR3-1800 C7 or DDR3-2000 C8. Even DDR3-2000 C7 is barely noticeable for normal use IMO and not worth the extra stress on the system.

so i got that bluescreen viewer program. it actually looks like almost every BSOD i've had was due to vcore issues. lots of 101's, a few B3's... i had a couple 116's but those were old from when ATI had the world's crapiest drivers during fall last year.

not once had it logged anything for VTT though. so i might chance it and increase vtt a bit over 1.4 and see what i come up with. i figure as long as temps don't go over 85*c it should be safe.

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Originally Posted by Maxpayne

Zoson click on image

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4279/r3e01.th.png

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Hey guys, so I put there a sound card in the lower slot, but windows did not find any card, only works in PCI-E 4x

why? :(

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Nice, it's the plexi twin of my board :D

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:up:

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Originally Posted by Maxpayne

Hey guys, so I put there a sound card in the lower slot, but windows did not find any card, only works in PCI-E 4x

why? :(

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the lower slot is a pci-express 2.0 slot,don't connect the sound card there :eek:

well i went back and tried some new mem timings to see if i could get it any tighter.

i ALMOST got 1800 to work at 6-8-6-24-72 1T. problem is, BIOS hangs on startup. VTT at 1.418v, DRAM at 1.749v, Link rate kept around 6300-6700 (any higher on link and bios doesn't start at all) and uncore kept around 3000-3500 for stability. i tried loads of RTL settings and went as far as +4 to tRL's but still no luck and still hangs on bios. probably too much on the IMC.

right now i have it back to normal at 1866 7-9-7-24-72 1T but with uncore at exactly 2x at 3733 over 3200 i had it before.

dram 1.74? going more than 1.64 it will not damage the cpu?

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

dram 1.74? going more than 1.64 it will not damage the cpu?

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No, until difference between Vram and Vtt is more than 0.47 V.

mmmh.. gotta try .... so i can no care.. the red blinking message on bios when i set 1.65 for dram ?

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Originally Posted by Maxpayne

Hey guys, so I put there a sound card in the lower slot, but windows did not find any card, only works in PCI-E 4x

why? :(

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you have to put your 3 slot videocard on 2nd pci-e 16x slot and put the sound card above the videocard, this will also allow the fans to have more open
airflow.

shouldnt be an issue i have an msi big bang and it brings a pcie sound card
which can only be installed in slot (1) and then video--->video well you get the point.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

You should be able to tell what kind of vcore you'll need for 4.5 GHz by looking at what your CPU needs for various lower speeds. It will scale pretty much linearly until a certain point where it will become less linear. You can work out how many mv you need per 100MHz increase, and work out what the CPU would need at higher speeds if scaling was linear.

DDR3-2000MHz ram is nice, but honestly quite unnecessary for daily use. If you compared normal tasks and time taken or FPS in your games, you'd see barely any difference between something like DDR3-1600 C6, DDR3-1800 C7 or DDR3-2000 C8. Even DDR3-2000 C7 is barely noticeable for normal use IMO and not worth the extra stress on the system.

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i pretty much have worked out a formula for bloomfield/gulftown using as base
200blck and multi of 21 based on the cpu i had, so far the best is a
i7 950 it did 4.2Ghz @ only 1.28v, this i7 970 does 4.2Ghz @ 1.34v
on a side note, i never had 2000mhz ram stable @ such low qpi v
like i have now with this i7 gulftown.
how much a 12GB 1600mhz Cas 6/7 cost compare to a 190usd 2000mhz 12GB kit for gulftown, i think its good bang for buck.:up:
that gets my thumbs up anyday.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

You should be able to tell what kind of vcore you'll need for 4.5 GHz by looking at what your CPU needs for various lower speeds. It will scale pretty much linearly until a certain point where it will become less linear. You can work out how many mv you need per 100MHz increase, and work out what the CPU would need at higher speeds if scaling was linear.

DDR3-2000MHz ram is nice, but honestly quite unnecessary for daily use. If you compared normal tasks and time taken or FPS in your games, you'd see barely any difference between something like DDR3-1600 C6, DDR3-1800 C7 or DDR3-2000 C8. Even DDR3-2000 C7 is barely noticeable for normal use IMO and not worth the extra stress on the system.

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I agree and disagree on this, with only online gaming, 2000mhz C7 is everything, especially with BC2, the Min and Max fps in the game are 10 - 20 fps different compared to running 1600mhz c6, The uncore plays a big role.

But at the end of the day, its only a 10 - 15 fps difference, might not make a difference for others, but some people can process alot more visual data than others, and im sure it would make a difference for them, Its like people saying that they cannot notice the difference between 60 hz monitor and 120hz, they just cant process the visual data needed to notice the difference between them, so they appear the same.

guys, now sound card works in the last slot, I had in R3E off last slot pci-e x16 :) thanks

an audio card in the red slot? is that right?

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Originally Posted by Sanousie

I agree and disagree on this, with only online gaming, 2000mhz C7 is everything, especially with BC2, the Min and Max fps in the game are 10 - 20 fps different compared to running 1600mhz c6, The uncore plays a big role.

But at the end of the day, its only a 10 - 15 fps difference, might not make a difference for others, but some people can process alot more visual data than others, and im sure it would make a difference for them, Its like people saying that they cannot notice the difference between 60 hz monitor and 120hz, they just cant process the visual data needed to notice the difference between them, so they appear the same.

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What card are you using? There may be a FPS difference on your PC (I haven't checked with this particular setup but i doubt it would be that large a difference with my settings), but I find with an overclocked GTX580 my FPS are good enough to have perfectly smooth gameplay. The is with 4GHz CPU and 3600MHz uncore / DDR3-1600 6-6-6-18 1T. Sure I could boost it all up, but when I'm having plenty of fun as it is, I see no need to, it's not like it's a competition and every nanosecond counts. The server and ping would have a much greater effect on your gameplay.

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

an audio card in the red slot? is that right?

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If its a full length PCI-E audio card, that's where it goes ;)

So i had time to do some benching today and i was able to get 3dMark Vantage runs @ 4.5Ghz:D
I also gave the old LinX a run for its money and i lossed today:mad:
my i7 970 chip will not do 4.5Ghz with cpu vcore @ 1.46v
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o.../31k3dmark.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...creenPimod.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...DmarkP6334.jpg

i'm wondering, why my gpu does 30000 and more points on the vantage... is that because i'm running the gpu at 980/990mhz? on the performance i get 7646P .... is that ok?!

So doesn anyone know when the Marvell Controller update is coming? Is there a way to force flash the controller?

I guess spoolin' was just a bit amazed that you appeared to expect to score similarly in 2 totally different graphics benchmarks.

Everywhere people have been posting about how low they are scoring in '11 vs vantage/06 etc and asking why etc, because they are used to scoring high in outdated benchmarks with new hardware. He just thought you'd have seen it is all.

i've read again my post ..... wasn't clare, btw i tought that when i said P7646 would understand that i was talking about the 3dmark2011

& spoolin didn't get what i've asked! .....

Seriously my post got deleted? Lol it was THAT bad? Haha I have seen worse BS being said in this thread but MY comment gets removed. Okay.

Whoever did it at least have the balls to explain why and own up to it. Why no PM explaining the reason? Get one very quickly if I'm trying to sell something and don't follow guidelines :rolleyes:

BTW I understood what you were asking very clearly. Exactly like Cryptik said you are one of those people on the net wondering why you are scoring so low in 3d11 compared to vantage. Anyways, Cryptik is right on point. I'm seriously amazed by how little people know in regards to what they are doing. I think a serious overclocker should know or at least be able to figure out these type of things. When 3dmark 11 was released I already expected to score lower than I did in Vantage.

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

i'm wondering, why my gpu does 30000 and more points on the vantage... is that because i'm running the gpu at 980/990mhz? on the performance i get 7646P .... is that ok?!

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:p:
7646P DX11 by your GPU
30000 DX10 by your DX11 GPU

so hope you understand, DX11 hardware is backward compatible.
Direct X 10 GPU cannot run 3DMARK 11 (dx11).:down:

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Originally Posted by sprayingmango

So doesn anyone know when the Marvell Controller update is coming? Is there a way to force flash the controller?

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This. I just spent the entire weekend trying to just install Windows, I didn't know about this infamous problem until about 40 mins ago. It's been nothing short of a nightmare, I wanted to kick my new rig through the wall. I thought it was me being stupid or something, and come to find out... Sigh... :(

BTW - Have a Rampage III Gene, but still the same issue. :down:

Apparently the next BIOS should address this issue is what I've heard, but Asus is very late fixing this problem. Other companies have had it covered for months now. Having the Gene, you should expect a BIOS after the R3E BIOS is released.

Typical Asus though, seems like "do a lot of things badly" is their motto these days. I think I can speak for everyone when I say I wish they'd do less, but do it well. I don't want 50 motherboards for each socket, I want a few to choose from, but with good support. To have a ROG product lag so far behind the competition shows they are just stretched too thin and can't focus.

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Originally Posted by Andreezy

:p:
7646P DX11 by your GPU
30000 DX10 by your DX11 GPU

so hope you understand, DX11 hardware is backward compatible.
Direct X 10 GPU cannot run 3DMARK 11 (dx11).:down:

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that's obvious ...... :up:

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

mmmh.. gotta try .... so i can no care.. the red blinking message on bios when i set 1.65 for dram ?

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You are right.
The 1,65 V warning is programmed if you don't touch the Vqpi (alias Vtt) but if you keep Vram-Vqpi less than 0.47 V, you are in a safe region.

If you have 1.35 V Vqpi, you can go up to 1.82 on Vram without any risk to destroy memory controller of cpu.

I bought some Mushkin Ridgeback Redline 3x2GB 1600mhz 6-8-6-24-72-1T to see if I can go higher with less dense memory.
Hopefully it will be here wednesday!

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Apparently the next BIOS should address this issue is what I've heard, but Asus is very late fixing this problem. Other companies have had it covered for months now. Having the Gene, you should expect a BIOS after the R3E BIOS is released.

Typical Asus though, seems like "do a lot of things badly" is their motto these days. I think I can speak for everyone when I say I wish they'd do less, but do it well. I don't want 50 motherboards for each socket, I want a few to choose from, but with good support. To have a ROG product lag so far behind the competition shows they are just stretched too thin and can't focus.

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Agreed. I'm pissed that I have a $2500 paperweight if I wanted to use the SATA 6Gb. When I get home tonight I might try to load up on the Intel controller, but after seeing Gigabyte and MSI corrected the problem for their boards back in OCTOBER.... there's no reason we should still be waiting.

The guys over @ BIOS-Mods may be able to help though. I'll have to compile a list of stuff to post over there. Looks like the only source for the updated Marvell firmware by itself is some French website, www.station-drivers.com. Never heard of them though.

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Originally Posted by zoson

I bought some Mushkin Ridgeback Redline 3x2GB 1600mhz 6-8-6-24-72-1T to see if I can go higher with less dense memory.
Hopefully it will be here wednesday!

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I've got those and they work perfect for me now, when I installed them th first time the rig wouldn't post but a bios update fixed that.

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Originally Posted by Brama

You are right.
The 1,65 V warning is programmed if you don't touch the Vqpi (alias Vtt) but if you keep Vram-Vqpi less than 0.47 V, you are in a safe region.

If you have 1.35 V Vqpi, you can go up to 1.82 on Vram without any risk to destroy memory controller of cpu.

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thanks buddy! :up: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by WangChung

The guys over @ BIOS-Mods may be able to help though. I'll have to compile a list of stuff to post over there. Looks like the only source for the updated Marvell firmware by itself is some French website, www.station-drivers.com. Never heard of them though.

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Ive been using Station Drivers for over half a decade now and nobody beats them at getting drivers first, even at times I find drivers posted WAY BEFORE the manufacturer can get them posted (Hint Hint @ Intel). Ghostleader, the OP of this thread has been giving us links to Station Drivers (bottom of post #1) ever since the creation of this thread. Its in French and sometimes difficult to manage (thanks to the fine print and awful translations, lol) but its the first place I go for updated drivers/bios's.

Can't we just update the firmware ourselves? Or do we need to wait for Asus to do it? The latest firmware for the 9128 was released a month ago today according to SD. Id love to see what my two C300's would do on the new Marvell firmware/drivers. They feel fantastic on ICH10R so I never used the marvell controller for very long.

Any one tried the new 1207 bios?

I have some problems with my board and a 970 that cant go past 178 mhz blck without crashing all the time.

I haves tested the cpu in another board and the cpu did 252 mhz blck max so was hoping that this bios will fix my problem.

I had no issues with the 970 over 235Bclock ( no slow mode ) and bios 0704

Whoa, ordered memory on saturday, and it arrived here today!
Now posting with 3x2GB 1600MHz 6-8-6-24-72-1T! Uncore at 2x! ~77GFlops.

Dropped QPI from 1.35 to 1.3v and it's still happy!

1207 bios
The two issues i had was it messed my ram up running 2,000mhz. And the second one as you mentioned my higher bclk running seemed to just go away also. Just got another board for testing, so i shall see what this one does.

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Originally Posted by zoson

Whoa, ordered memory on saturday, and it arrived here today!
Now posting with 3x2GB 1600MHz 6-8-6-24-72-1T! Uncore at 2x! ~77GFlops.

Dropped QPI from 1.35 to 1.3v and it's still happy!

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Wy the 1600 and not the 2k
Stock settings on this mem:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2785/2kmem.jpg

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Originally Posted by zoson

Whoa, ordered memory on saturday, and it arrived here today!
Now posting with 3x2GB 1600MHz 6-8-6-24-72-1T! Uncore at 2x! ~77GFlops.

Dropped QPI from 1.35 to 1.3v and it's still happy!

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Thats ok, but my Geils do 1600 Mhz @ 6-7-6-18-72-1T with 1.59v Dram, and 1.275v QPI with 6 modules :p

I just tried some low CPU voltage testing, my CPU is stable at 3.8 Ghz @ 1.225v, but its still pure crappage at 4.0 or 4.2 Ghz (needs 1.3375, and 1.3875v for those).

I'm gonna leave it at 3.8 Ghz while I wait for the I7 970 price to reduce some more.

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Thats ok, but my Geils do 1600 Mhz @ 6-7-6-18-72-1T with 1.59v Dram, and 1.275v QPI with 6 modules :p

I just tried some low CPU voltage testing, my CPU is stable at 3.8 Ghz @ 1.225v, but its still pure crappage at 4.0 or 4.2 Ghz (needs 1.3375, and 1.3875v for those).

I'm gonna leave it at 3.8 Ghz while I wait for the I7 970 price to reduce some more.

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Just preliminary testing... I'll shoot for your timings since it's the same chips.
I've had the memory for only a few hours =P
Currently running 1000mhz stable at 7-9-7-24-82-1T
1.35v qpi(unoptomized) with 1.8x Uncore.

Anyone looking to upgrade to the new R3BE? I see it's available now for around $600. Hefty price :$. Well I guess it's because of the dedicated sound card and headphones.

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Originally Posted by zoson

Just preliminary testing... I'll shoot for your timings since it's the same chips.
I've had the memory for only a few hours =P
Currently running 1000mhz stable at 7-9-7-24-82-1T
1.35v qpi(unoptomized) with 1.8x Uncore.

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I think you must have much better chips, mine are really old elipda somethings. THey dont much like going over 1900 Mhz on the R3E.

I've just booted up with 6-7-5-18-60-1T @ 1.65v, not sure if its 24/7 stable though but I'll test it.

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Originally Posted by SkOrPn

Ive been using Station Drivers for over half a decade now and nobody beats them at getting drivers first, even at times I find drivers posted WAY BEFORE the manufacturer can get them posted (Hint Hint @ Intel). Ghostleader, the OP of this thread has been giving us links to Station Drivers (bottom of post #1) ever since the creation of this thread. Its in French and sometimes difficult to manage (thanks to the fine print and awful translations, lol) but its the first place I go for updated drivers/bios's.

Can't we just update the firmware ourselves? Or do we need to wait for Asus to do it? The latest firmware for the 9128 was released a month ago today according to SD. Id love to see what my two C300's would do on the new Marvell firmware/drivers. They feel fantastic on ICH10R so I never used the marvell controller for very long.

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Good to know! I'll add them to my "save" list. :)

But that's exactly what I'm wondering. Station Drivers has the BIOSes/firmware for both Intel AND Marvell, in addition I've seen a guy on here named Mr. Toad that also posted on there and apparently had some luck with the Marvell part. I haven't heard back from him about his direct experience though. I don't want to wait "two weeks" a.k.a. indefinitely.

Uhh, I have got a bit of reading in this thread from the beginning :D. However I might still ask if not already asked several times: I'm using 3-way SLI (3xGTX580) and would like to buy an Asus Xonar Essence STX (or similar) audio card. Can I just plug it in the bottom red slot without issues with the 3-way SLI? Wouldn't that at least hurt my performance?

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Originally Posted by bhavv

I just tried some low CPU voltage testing, my CPU is stable at 3.8 Ghz @ 1.225v, but its still pure crappage at 4.0 or 4.2 Ghz (needs 1.3375, and 1.3875v for those).

I'm gonna leave it at 3.8 Ghz while I wait for the I7 970 price to reduce some more.

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i thought there was something funky about that... i got 4.27ghz to be stable at 1.28 for like a day... and then it never happened again... and i'm on a 980x and i'm getting the same thing. totally stable at 3.8 with roughly 1.225-1.23 vcore but as soon as i touch 4ghz i need atleast 1.33-1.34 and 4.27ghz at 1.375-1.38. that's a pretty stupid power to voltage ratio there and it was like this on both my 980x chips.

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Originally Posted by xarot

Uhh, I have got a bit of reading in this thread from the beginning :D. However I might still ask if not already asked several times: I'm using 3-way SLI (3xGTX580) and would like to buy an Asus Xonar Essence STX (or similar) audio card. Can I just plug it in the bottom red slot without issues with the 3-way SLI? Wouldn't that at least hurt my performance?

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depends on the card's PCIE speed requirements. if i remember correctly, the last channel (when using 3-way sli) is turned into a 8x PCIE lane instead of 16. so currently you're running 8x / 8x / 16x with your 3-way sli (according to the owner manual). your last slot will be 8x by default.

so... i turned off HT...

i'd rather have it turned on, as i've seen written before, it always feels like something's missing... even though there's nothing i do on here that uses more than 1-3 cores, even the multi core programs that i do have.

BUT

threw it back to 4.5ghz and 1.39 vcore... doing 2gb mem runs in linX and it's doing almost 100gFlops... and staying good at 68*c...

Mem @ 2133MHz 9-11-9-27-88-1T 1.65v
Didn't get a chance to fully stabilize, it's probably going to need more vDIMM.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1750449.png

So far my experience is I need only a little less vQPI with 6GB than 12GB. The difference is not as big as I had hoped.
6GB @ 2GHz 7-9-7-24-82-1T Uncore 3.6GHz needs 1.33725vQPI
12GB @ 2GHz 9-9-9-25-110-1T Uncore 3.6GHz needs 1.35vQPI

The performance is about the same as my other kit, also...

guys, where am i doing wrong? i'm tring to get working this speed for benchmarks, windows fully boots, but i get blue screen before starting any 3d mark ... it loads and all but blue screen on start...here are the bios settings, can anyone help?


Target CPU Frequency 4563MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 2033MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]

CPU Ratio Setting [27.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [27.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion [Disabled]
C3 Auto Demotion [Disabled]
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BCLK Frequency [169]
PCIE Frequency [101]
DRAM Frequency [2033]
UCLK Frequency [4066]
QPI Link Data Rate [6099] aw still don't know how to set this

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency [9]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [8]
RAS# PRE Time [9]
RAS# ACT Time [24]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [7]
REF Cycle Time [90]
WRITE Recovery Time [14]
READ to PRE Time [8]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 28[Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 2N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 59 [59]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 61 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 62 [61]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 7[Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 19[Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 9[Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 9 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 9[Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 9 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 6 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 7[Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 7[Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 4[Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [X-Power]
PWR Volt. Control [7V]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]

Extreme OV [Disabled]*
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.614 [1.60000]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.892 [1.89475]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.382 [1.38750]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.64 [1.64300]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.296 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [1.52375]

*QPI Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*IOH Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*DRAM Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*QPI PWM Frequency [Auto]
*IOH PWM Frequency [Auto]
*DRAM PWM Frequency [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

guys, where am i doing wrong? i'm tring to get working this speed for benchmarks, windows fully boots, but i get blue screen before starting any 3d mark ... it loads and all but blue screen on start...here are the bios settings, can anyone help?


Target CPU Frequency 4563MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 2033MHz

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CPU TM has to stay disabled
I suspect, with Uncore so high over 4000 MHz, you have to raise Vqpi.

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Originally Posted by Brama

CPU TM has to stay disabled
I suspect, with Uncore so high over 4000 MHz, you have to raise Vqpi.

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what's that for?

i'll try this night, coz with 26 C° out and 24 in the room isn't a nice way to bench ...

(I was hoping you'd be the first to answer my question :clap:)

Seriously google doesn't work for this guy lol

Why is DRAM timing at 9-8-9-24? That's incorrect.

Try 9-9-9-24 or stock 8-9-8-24

2200MHz ram :D
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1751976

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

Seriously google doesn't work for this guy lol

Why is DRAM timing at 9-8-9-24? That's incorrect.

Try 9-9-9-24 or stock 8-9-8-24

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no google doesn't work http://www.pctunerup.com/up//results...2036_ncasd.gif

... it gives me page not found.

my mistake, stock is 8.9.8. 24.

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

guys, where am i doing wrong? i'm tring to get working this speed for benchmarks, windows fully boots, but i get blue screen before starting any 3d mark ... it loads and all but blue screen on start...here are the bios settings, can anyone help?


Target CPU Frequency 4563MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 2033MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]

CPU Ratio Setting [27.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [27.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion [Disabled]
C3 Auto Demotion [Disabled]
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BCLK Frequency [169]
PCIE Frequency [101]
DRAM Frequency [2033]
UCLK Frequency [4066]
QPI Link Data Rate [6099] aw still don't know how to set this

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency [9]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [8]
RAS# PRE Time [9]
RAS# ACT Time [24]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [7]
REF Cycle Time [90]
WRITE Recovery Time [14]
READ to PRE Time [8]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 28[Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 2N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 59 [59]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 61 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 62 [61]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 7[Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 19[Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 9[Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 9 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 9[Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 9 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 6 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 7[Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 7[Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 4[Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [X-Power]
PWR Volt. Control [7V]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]

Extreme OV [Disabled]*
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.614 [1.60000]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.892 [1.89475]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.382 [1.38750]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.64 [1.64300]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.296 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [1.52375]

*QPI Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*IOH Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*DRAM Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*QPI PWM Frequency [Auto]
*IOH PWM Frequency [Auto]
*DRAM PWM Frequency [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

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1. your RAS to CAS is lower than your CAS, not good. keep 9-9-9 for 2000mhz on mem or try 9-10-9.

2. your RTL and tRL timings are set to auto, you need to set them manually for 2000+mhz on mem otherwise the bios will set too tight of timings on them, other times too loose.

3. 1.6v on the CPU for 4.5ghz is STUPID HIGH. you should try 1.4-1.47v, 1.6 can fry your chip unless your on phased cooling or on LN2.

4. disable your CPU TM function.

5. you've no need to increase ICH PCIE voltage, put it back to auto.

6. your CPU PLL voltage is too high (though within intel's specs) it should be lower to near it's stock of 1.81v or lower.

7. your QPI data link is based on your CPU speed and mem speed. the higher your mem speed is, the higher the data link you'll want in order to have bandwidth to deal with it.

My Opinion: your CPU vcore voltage is way too high and you're also toying with mem speeds that are too high with timings that are too tight. start small and work your way up. also your qpi data link rate is too low for the speeds your going for. high cpu speed, high mem speed and high uncore speed requires higher data link.

@ p3gaz - TBH 4.6 2D/3D (except 06/Vantage) shouldnt be hard to do if your CPU is capable of it. I got mine almost LinX stable at 4.5, then did some 3D including 06/Vantage at 4.5 and ran SPI32M at 4.66GHz on my 990X. On my old 920, benching at 4.6 was harder as I was at the boards BCLK limit without slow mode enabled, but with an EE you are not running out of BCLK. Some not great bloomfields were just a PITA to try those speeds on, I had a couple that would barely do 4.5 bench stable at 1.42v HT off.

Also why do you have PCI-E freq set to 101MHz, that was a trick from back in the day, don't need to increase it with X58 until you are running out of BCLK which at <170 you are not.

Your uncore is very high, your CPU IMC would have to be good to handle that and also DDR3-2000+ ram speeds. My opinion is you are pushing it all too hard and you don't know your gear, ie: what it needs to be stable with 4.5GHz core, what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore, and what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore plus DDR3-2000MHz. Without knowing where to start, you are going to have a seriously hard time doing everything at once.

Take it slow, do it bit by bit.

Test your CPU with LinX or Prime at say 4.2/4.3/4.4/4.5GHz with low uncore and ram speed. Plot how it scales - this will give you an idea of what it needs for higher speeds.

Test your uncore with lower CPU speed and low ram speed, and note what it requires for various speeds.

After that you will mostly 'know' your cpu.

Then test your ram, with low CPU speed to keep it out of the equation, and keep uncore at 2x ram speed. Keep your QPI data link rate in the safe zone too. Try different combinations of timings at various speeds, for example set 1.65 vdimm, and see how tight you can go on timings testing stability with HCI Memtest (my personal fav for mem testing as it shows up instability very fast) at various speeds, ie: DDR3-1600, DDR3-1800, DDR3-1900 and DDR3-2000 as a minimum.

This can all take a long time, overclocking requires patience and a methodical approach. There's no cookie cutter method when it comes to different mixtures or ram,boards and CPU's with different capabilities. You have to take it slow, start at sensible speeds and test all your components.

dangit!!!

testing with 6gb mem in the system at 4.6ghz no HT and 1.49 vcore and 1900mhz on memory. was doin my 20 passes in LinX and halfway through the 21st pass it BSOD's... >.<
i was getting 100-101 gFlops. stupid stupid stupid stupid!!!! @#$^^&#$%!!@#@#%$^*#!@

Plugged my 6gb modules into my red sockets and my 12gb modules into my black sockets. I tried damn hard to get them running at 2ghz together, but no joy. I've got all 18gb running together at 1600mhz 8-9-8-27-110-1T... GFlops <55 with all mem. I think this weekend I'll go for 4.5ghz club with HT off and my 6gb sticks. I never managed to stabilize at 2200MHz, but I did stabilize 2166MHz at 9-10-9-27-88-1T!!!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...18gb800mhz.jpg

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Originally Posted by xarot

Uhh, I have got a bit of reading in this thread from the beginning :D. However I might still ask if not already asked several times: I'm using 3-way SLI (3xGTX580) and would like to buy an Asus Xonar Essence STX (or similar) audio card. Can I just plug it in the bottom red slot without issues with the 3-way SLI? Wouldn't that at least hurt my performance?

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Yep, drop in that slot m8, it wont touch the performance, Ive done it myself, the card does not fully utilise all the PCI-E connections so it doesnt drop the lane speed.

your good to go

:up:

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Originally Posted by zoson

Plugged my 6gb modules into my red sockets and my 12gb modules into my black sockets. I tried damn hard to get them running at 2ghz together, but no joy. I've got all 18gb running together at 1600mhz 8-9-8-27-110-1T... GFlops <55 with all mem. I think this weekend I'll go for 4.5ghz club with HT off and my 6gb sticks. I never managed to stabilize at 2200MHz, but I did stabilize 2166MHz at 9-10-9-27-88-1T!!!

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if you're going for gFlops, run with HT turned off. also you should be getting higher than 55 based on your bclk x 21 (looks like 4.1 there). have you updated the libraries on your linX?

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

if you're going for gFlops, run with HT turned off. also you should be getting higher than 55 based on your bclk x 21 (looks like 4.1 there). have you updated the libraries on your linX?

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You really need to follow the thread buddy.
Many of us have issues with large memory sizes tanking our gflops in linx. When you have 18gb memory and have figured out why, please let us know.

Just how sensitive is this board when attempting to run 3-Way or even 4-Way SLI? I have all of the molex connectors plugged into the board.

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Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth

Just how sensitive is this board when attempting to run 3-Way or even 4-Way SLI? I have all of the molex connectors plugged into the board.

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It only supports 3 way SLI, but it should work fine.

Been having issues, sometimes my system works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm all out of ideas.

OCUK have the new Antec Kuhler on offer this week for £46, I looked up a review and it looks super impressive for its price:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...tid=57&subcat=

http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/up.../temps-oc1.png

^^ I7 990x @ 5 Ghz and 1.5v kept under 75 degrees!

My Triton 88 can only handle my 920 up to 4 Ghz @ 1.3375v, and it still gets to around 85 degrees. The Antec Kuhler should be fine with handling it at 1.3875v and 4.2 Ghz, and it shouldnt emit as much heat since its a water cooler. I wont need to bother with a new CPU at all if this cooler manages 4.2 Ghz fine :)

BTW both my CPU and QPI needed 1.4v for 4.2 Ghz on my old UD5 board, wheras my R3E comfortably manages with 1.3875v on the CPU and just 1.275v QPI. My CPU overclocks fine, but it needs a lot of voltage. As long as the Antec Kuhler does the trick at those voltages, I'm completely set until either my CPU blows or it is completely obsolete, I'll just swap out my graphics cards as I want, but keep the CPU mobo and ram :)

Heres my current temperatures, far from ideal:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6005/triton88.png

Back to my main interest. Memory overclocking :D

Don't know how I'm passing at these volts. I'm still going higher.

This is where I got so far.

(Load)

Vcore 1.210v-1.217v

VTT 1.376v-1.382v

Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v

2045MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2116/2045mhzcl8web.png

2045MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98 for Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v :eek:

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Originally Posted by bhavv

^^ I7 990x @ 5 Ghz and 1.5v kept under 75 degrees!

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Um, no! I don't know what planet they tested that on but there simply is no way to run a 990X at 5GHz with 1.5 volts on anything less than high end water!

My W3580 was tested at 1.4V, 4.53GHz running mid 60s (LinX) with a CPU-370 waterblock and 320 radiator.

Not changing anything on the board when switching to an H70 LinX would run for a few seconds, Realtemp GT temps would skyrocket to the 90s before the system bluescreened! At 5GHz with 1.5V idle temps would probably be in the 50s with those little waterfilled things. :D

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Originally Posted by tistou77

2045MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98 for Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v :eek:

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For real! That's super tight and great latency there! :eek:

990X at 5GHz loaded, I find that hard to believe given my temps on high end water.

I thought the results looked odd, but if its at least similar to the H70 and D14, then its still a lot better than my current cooler.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

@ p3gaz - TBH 4.6 2D/3D (except 06/Vantage) shouldnt be hard to do if your CPU is capable of it. I got mine almost LinX stable at 4.5, then did some 3D including 06/Vantage at 4.5 and ran SPI32M at 4.66GHz on my 990X. On my old 920, benching at 4.6 was harder as I was at the boards BCLK limit without slow mode enabled, but with an EE you are not running out of BCLK. Some not great bloomfields were just a PITA to try those speeds on, I had a couple that would barely do 4.5 bench stable at 1.42v HT off.

Also why do you have PCI-E freq set to 101MHz, that was a trick from back in the day, don't need to increase it with X58 until you are running out of BCLK which at <170 you are not.

Your uncore is very high, your CPU IMC would have to be good to handle that and also DDR3-2000+ ram speeds. My opinion is you are pushing it all too hard and you don't know your gear, ie: what it needs to be stable with 4.5GHz core, what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore, and what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore plus DDR3-2000MHz. Without knowing where to start, you are going to have a seriously hard time doing everything at once.

Take it slow, do it bit by bit.

Test your CPU with LinX or Prime at say 4.2/4.3/4.4/4.5GHz with low uncore and ram speed. Plot how it scales - this will give you an idea of what it needs for higher speeds.

Test your uncore with lower CPU speed and low ram speed, and note what it requires for various speeds.

After that you will mostly 'know' your cpu.

Then test your ram, with low CPU speed to keep it out of the equation, and keep uncore at 2x ram speed. Keep your QPI data link rate in the safe zone too. Try different combinations of timings at various speeds, for example set 1.65 vdimm, and see how tight you can go on timings testing stability with HCI Memtest (my personal fav for mem testing as it shows up instability very fast) at various speeds, ie: DDR3-1600, DDR3-1800, DDR3-1900 and DDR3-2000 as a minimum.

This can all take a long time, overclocking requires patience and a methodical approach. There's no cookie cutter method when it comes to different mixtures or ram,boards and CPU's with different capabilities. You have to take it slow, start at sensible speeds and test all your components.

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

1. your RAS to CAS is lower than your CAS, not good. keep 9-9-9 for 2000mhz on mem or try 9-10-9.

2. your RTL and tRL timings are set to auto, you need to set them manually for 2000+mhz on mem otherwise the bios will set too tight of timings on them, other times too loose.

3. 1.6v on the CPU for 4.5ghz is STUPID HIGH. you should try 1.4-1.47v, 1.6 can fry your chip unless your on phased cooling or on LN2.

4. disable your CPU TM function.

5. you've no need to increase ICH PCIE voltage, put it back to auto.

6. your CPU PLL voltage is too high (though within intel's specs) it should be lower to near it's stock of 1.81v or lower.

7. your QPI data link is based on your CPU speed and mem speed. the higher your mem speed is, the higher the data link you'll want in order to have bandwidth to deal with it.

My Opinion: your CPU vcore voltage is way too high and you're also toying with mem speeds that are too high with timings that are too tight. start small and work your way up. also your qpi data link rate is too low for the speeds your going for. high cpu speed, high mem speed and high uncore speed requires higher data link.

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ok .... got much work to do .... thanks guys. :cool:

and, this card is good for the pci_ex4 ye?

how do i know when to add more ioh volts running 200bclk on stock 1.1 volts
thanks

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

ok .... got much work to do .... thanks guys. :cool:

and, this card is good for the pci_ex4 ye?

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x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.

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Originally Posted by Nunzi

how do i know when to add more ioh volts running 200bclk on stock 1.1 volts
thanks

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honestly i've never needed more than about 1.13-1.15v, 1.13 being the sweet point. as you start to go higher, your display will tend to just shut off on you it seems and it's quite annoying and it's even caused my BIOS to freeze during post.

unless you're running something around 7.5G on the data link i don't think you need to worry about it much. others can correct me if i'm wrong but i found no reason to increase IOH voltage unless qpi data link speeds were 7.5+

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.

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well now i have that audio card on my rig, between 3rd & 4th red slot. since i'm about to get a second gpu card and , off course i need to use slot 1/3 i i need space below the 3° pci-ex16x

http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...xtreme-top.jpg

so i was asking if that audio card could work on the black slot signed in the pic ....

i agree that the integrated audio card is good. but not enough for my ears.

hey, come to think of it, did anyone find out what the PLL ClockGen codec is? i'd like to monitor the behavior between base clock, dram, pci-e and pci with setFSB if it's got the R3E's clockgen.

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x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.



honestly i've never needed more than about 1.13-1.15v, 1.13 being the sweet point. as you start to go higher, your display will tend to just shut off on you it seems and it's quite annoying and it's even caused my BIOS to freeze during post.



unless you're running something around 7.5G on the data link i don't think you need to worry about it much. others can correct me if i'm wrong but i found no reason to increase IOH voltage unless qpi data link speeds were 7.5+

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Thanks for the reply..... going to leave it @1.15v

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well now i have that audio card on my rig, between 3rd & 4th red slot. since i'm about to get a second gpu card and , off course i need to use slot 1/3 i i need space below the 3° pci-ex16x


so i was asking if that audio card could work on the black slot signed in the pic ....

i agree that the integrated audio card is good. but not enough for my ears.

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yes the card should work there as it is a pci-e 1x. the slot circled is 4x, but the 1x will work in it just fine. it'll just have a few pin spots left over.

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yes the card should work there as it is a pci-e 1x. the slot circled is 4x, but the 1x will work in it just fine. it'll just have a few pin spots left over.

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ye i knew that was pci ex4, u tried to correct me when i was right :rolleyes:

btw thanks, i'm gonna get the audio card and swap away this , i'm always happy when is time for upgrades.

Yes thats the slot I have my sound card in as well, it leaves you with a 3 slot spacing for two graphics cards like so:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3770/dsc00761ws.jpg

You can also use triple graphics cards in the top 3 slots, and a sound card in the bottom 16x slot, the slot layout is absolutely perfect on this board for running multiple GPUs with a soundcard.

I'll be changing my cooler soon as I mentioned earlier, and I'm going to have to use my Antec tricool fans instead of my silent coolermaster ones to improve airflow for the h2o cooler.

I'm thinking of having the top fan blow inwards to bring in cool air over the radiator and rear exhaust fan. The Triton 88 doesnt work any better with higher RPM fans as I just tried with my earlier results, it still goes over 90 degrees with 4.2 Ghz.

4.2ghz
24x175bclk
3.5ghz uncore
6.314ghz qpi
6gb 2.1ghz memory
~81GFlops
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...0gfloplinx.jpg

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4.2ghz
24x175bclk
3.5ghz uncore
6.314ghz qpi
6gb 2.1ghz memory
~81GFlops
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...0gfloplinx.jpg

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that's not too shabby, you able to increase the mem speed a little more? 9-11-9-27 seems really loose for 1333 speed.

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that's not too shabby, you able to increase the mem speed a little more? 9-11-9-27 seems really loose for 1333 speed.

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he mentioned 2.1ghz... its not 1333

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depends on the card's PCIE speed requirements. if i remember correctly, the last channel (when using 3-way sli) is turned into a 8x PCIE lane instead of 16. so currently you're running 8x / 8x / 16x with your 3-way sli (according to the owner manual). your last slot will be 8x by default.

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In quad-crossfire I think the lanes would be split into x8/x8/x8/x8 so with 3-way SLI, I might get x8/x8/x8 + x8 lane for the last slot if it's occupying a sound card. The X58 has 32 lanes by default without nF200? Specs for the sound card:

Compatible with X1, X4, X8, X16 PCI Express slots

So it would use only X1. What would this do to the 3-way SLI lanes? x8/x8/x8?

EDIT: X58 has 36 lanes according to wikipedia. This would mean that the last slot is x4?

Yay, lovely cooler for just £46:

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4586/anteckuhler.png

:)

BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

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2045MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98 for Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v :eek:

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Exactly my reaction! Going for 2085MHz now ;)

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Originally Posted by Rubycon

For real! That's super tight and great latency there! :eek:

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Thank you :). The "magic" came from turning off LLC completely.

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Originally Posted by nowakjan2000

BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

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Reallly hope this contains the firmware updates *fingers crossed*

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he mentioned 2.1ghz... its not 1333

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i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though :shrug: i don't use tweaker so...

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BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

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does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

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i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though :shrug: i don't use tweaker so...



does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

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haven`t checked yet

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i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though :shrug: i don't use tweaker so...

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For some reason I don't like using CPU Tweaker.

That speed you saw is the JEDEC specification or standard of that memory. Don't really know the details but the JEDEC guys say what is the highest official ddr3 module speed. My sticks show the same spec speed, 667MHz (PC3-10700). But that's because our sticks are older. The most up to date ones are officially spec'd to PC3-17000 I believe.

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does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

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Just flashed to 1208 for a quick check. From the looks of it, it's exactly the same as 1207. No tRL settings :confused:. And it also has the same build date as bios 0003, which I thought Bios 1208 was the official version of.

Well anyways, some more memory overclocking :D

(Load)

Vcore 1.263v-1.27v

VTT 1.389v-1.402v

Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v

2085MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2...5mhzcl8web.png

CPU Tweaker is primarily a memory tweaking program. It shows you EVERYTHING, and more, that CPUZ shows you, except vCore.
The main difference, and the reason why I like it, is that CPU Tweaker shows you all the information on a single page, instead of broken into several tabs.

The actual speeds that everything is running at is in the "Frequency" section. It also shows the detailed memory information so people can see my exact extended memory timings and use it to help them get high frequency overclocks on memory.

How are you getting tRFC 98 spool? Is it 'auto' ? I can choose 90, then it skips to 100...
I also tried very hard to get 2.1ghz with cas 8, but I couldn't get stability, and my mem is already at 1.65v... I know everyone says that I can set my vDDR to vQPI + .47v, but I've been stopping at 1.65v since I haven't seen any actual Intel documentation supporting the theory...
I did get booted into windows at 2.2ghz with cas 9, but didn't have time to stabilize it last night.
And yes, I'm doing all of this with IC modules with JEDEC 1333, but they are XMP 1600 6-8-6-24-72-1T.

I also took my board up to 217bclk without slow mode yesterday, but that needs more work too...

I still am wondering how to fix the >9gb problem with linx that tanks my Gflops...

Also, can I suggest that people use thumbnails on the forum instead of posting full width pictures? It makes the forum so annoying to read!!!

Yes, Finally the sata option rom has been updated to 10.1.0.1008

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Yes, Finally the sata option rom has been updated to 10.1.0.1008

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Yes, but when I install the latest official intel RST drivers (10.1.0.1008) it hangs at boot logo. No probs with 9.6.0.1014 thou.

which is what "the sata option rom" check in the bios?

in bios, what is the option "Onboard SATA Controller" in the Advanced/Onboard Device Configuration?

thanks ;)