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Did it Ace.:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
we got it over the hump;)....good show!Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroCreep
thanks!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by GARY1951
What do you feel the cpu voltage should be set at for 2.8 oc.
what kind of processor?..quad or dual core?Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
list your specs...that would help.
As of bios 14 it is very hard for even highly binned D9s to work over 560MHz.
This is confirmed also by Transcend where their 1200MHz Axe Ram cannot work
at whatever voltages. Transcend is close with Abit engineers to solve that.
That is why bios16 will be out among other issues to be compatible with most modules.
The only memory that is working at 600 MHz is a-data extreme 1000+.
Just installed coretemp 0.96. Will see if it crashes as regularly as 0.95 beta.
Sorry, I have the Q6600. I have it to 2.8 right now but I must have the voltage at 1.325 to get it to work. Anything less and it resets itself. I have the crucial ballistix w/4Gb. Does this voltage sound right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I finally found out why I could not even attempt to oc. I had read earlier about a person that was using a corsair 620 and he changed out the power cord. I changed out the power cord and I can now oc. Does anyone know why this is???????
allways a 5 star, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Anyone tested a wolfdale with this board yet, I am curious to see what a max FSB might be.
I seem to run into an annoying problem. My CPU fan speed is stuck at its highest power or voltage. I can't control it with uGuru or the BIOS. One way to fix it is to clear the BIOS. Is there any other way to fix it? (will changing the fan header work?) :(
My FSB is also not reported in the uGuru display with the latest version that I am using. (3.107)
i had cpuz freeze my desktop when i had uguru and cpuz active in windows desktop...i don't remember if coretemp freezed me out on the Pro board...i am about ready to return to the Pro board...i am not a fan of the DFI methodology for their bios...it sucks in my honest opinion!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
you should get to about 350 fsb on default vcore or a slight increase (that's on a good chip)...BUT...if you are using four 1gig sticks, that will make it more difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
MCH, ICHIO 1.5 and Vdimm all play important roles besides vcore.
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Originally Posted by scorpion
you also!:up:
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Originally Posted by Knight
change it to AUX 1 or 2 fan header...they will work correctly...the 4 pin fan header for the cpu was really designed for Intel's cpu fan...it has a dickens of a time controlling the fan speed for a 3 pin plug when the bios takes a burp....the DFI X38 is that way and worse...totally non-working (fan speed control that is) with a 3 pin fan plug.
Why does having 4gb affect it and how? What would you recommend?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Why would a stinking power cord make a difference?
filling all four slots will hinder higher fsb clocks...it is that way...probably due to the latency required to talk to all four sticks in coordination with hard drive, cpu and its L2 cache...just think of it as running between four classrooms to tell the students the same thing or deliver slightly different data to them...it's going to be hard to keep up the pace!;)
So by getting rid of the 4 sticks and using 2 -2gb for 4gb would work better?
Here are my voltages that were in uguru
MCH 1.26
ICH 1.07
ICHIO 1.52
CPU 1.3325
DDR2 2.2
CPU VTT 1.21
The DDR2 is running at 748. My ram is running a little warm at about 49-50c.
If it will work a lot better with only 2 sticks would someone be so kind as to recommend the best 2gb sticks for this board. Thanks a bunch.
The best 2G experience I have had is with G.Skill HK's:
G.SKILL F2-CL4D- 2GBHK6400SR2GK - 4-4-3-5,2T
@ v2.1 1000 or 500 - 4-4-4-12
@ v2.3 1100 or 550 - 5-5-5-18
v2.3 is my limit. :)
I can recommend two sets:
G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK running 4-4-3-5 1T @ 420(840) 2.3V
or
A-DATA DDR2-800 Vitesta Extreme running 5-5-4-15 2T @ 564(1128) 2.3V.
I have them in my two sets and the A-DATA is low priced. You canīt go wrong with either of these.
I have my CPU at 3.6 vcore set at 1.3950. And have my memory timming at 5-4-4-11 running at DDR2 980 with a 1:1.2 memory/CPU ratio. I have 4 x 1 GB of Ballistix Tracer DDR2 800.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuliM
I guess this is good enough for me!!!
What temps are you running with these voltages? How fast is your cpu fan running? and your other fans? I don't like noise.
You have 4 sticks? Did you use only one when you oc?
I wonder if it is my psu that is causing my problems? I switched cords and that solved some of the problems but not all.
Does this board have any tRD controls?
first try increasing your MCH to around 1.5v range and the ICHIO 1.5 to about 1.7v rangeQuote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
What will this help? Why do you think I am having such a tough time when others have had an easy time? I have oc several other mobods and they were a piece of cake. This one is giving me fits.
What ratio do you think is good for this memory that I have (Ballistix 6400 4-4-4-12)? Do I dare push it over the 800 mark or for temp sakes just keep it below 800?
What is a good temp for memory to be at?
MCH is your memory/NB voltage and ICHIO 1.5 is your SB input/ouput voltage...ANY TIME you overclock beyond the original specs you are stressing all the sub-systems...SO...you need higher voltages to help with sending information to and from the various busses, and to the cpu...just as you need more vcore to overclock the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
this board is a breeze to overclock...i had it and i am now on the DFI X38 which is HARD to find the right voltages and memory settings...BELIEVE ME...the PRO board is EASY to overclock over this POS DFI board that i have.
As I see others say the same thing. Still, do you think it could be my power supply? The corsair 620 has had some issues with board. Until I changed the power cord I could not oc at all.
CPU-z freezes desktop, while running uguru to me also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Coretemp doesn't freeze, but regularly crashes (at least with 0.95 beta) when u have log enabled.
I haven't uses a DFI board since KT333 and the last of my AMD days... :p:
I can recommend 2 x 2GB Reaper-X PC2-6400 but I haven't finished overclocking yet! Been a busy christmas new year break! Some review sites claim to have achieved 1122MHz so they must clock alright!Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
Just finished leak testing my WC loop this week will try and hook it up before my lan tomorrow! :D
emu
P.s. Ace 5 stars given!
Took a preview pic of the secondary cooling loop starting to be fitted to the mobo. Evga 8800gt > southbridge > northbridge > custom mosfets block > 2x1200mm rad. CPU will have it's own loop with Fusion + 2x120mm rad. (yes, I know the SB doesn't really need watercooled, but this is XS isn't it? ;))
http://daemonfly.com/images/mozarttx/mbpreview.jpg
Main thing I hate about 100% completely new setups is there's always small things that hold you back. Add that to the holidays, and other projects, and you have frustration over it not being up & running yet :rofl:
I have to break out the mini router table to clean up the top to the custom block, and that table is buried in the back corner of my garage :(. Those caps around the mosfets make it a tight fit.
nice setup
what sink is on your pwm? dumping a ton of heat into the loop?
Custom made waterblock on the PWM. I figured with all the stock sink problems as well as general PWM cooling issues with many mobos, I figured I'll just water cool it and be done with it.
Just a cheap webcam pic I took for a friend, will have better pics once I get everything going & make a build thread.
how do i get AHCI installed when i boot pc i get AHCI Bios Not installed
coretemp 096 is available for download.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
did you enable AHCI in the bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by redrumy3
Where do I go to get coretemp 096?
Here http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTempQuote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
CN :)
http://thecoolest.zerobrains.com
a tad late, C-N was faster :D
Is there anything out there yet that works with 64 bit that you don't need to go through the process they use? Coretemp will work but only with 32 bit without going through the process they suggest.
Have you tried HW Monitor http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
CN :)
I 2nd hardware monitor....rivatuner also has a core2 plugin that monitors your temps too.....reports the same temps as coretemp.
I'm having a bit of trouble
I'm using this motherboard with 4GB (2x 2GB) of the "approved" Patriot ram, a Corsair 550w psu, ATI Radeon 3850, Core 2 Quad Q6600, Liteon DVDR (sata version).
what's happening is that vista 64 freezes on bootup. I've got the 64 bit "installed" but this is the boot I'm trying to do after the install (first boot to finish installation) and it freezes.
Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?
p.s.: tried changing ram channels and even taking one stick out and still no dice
what bios are you using?...are you using Raid?...the earlier bios versions had a problem with vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobrien
Yeah I'm using raid. but how do I tell which BIOS i'm using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
on the 1st post screen push and hold the "Pause" key to see the bios number in the upper left hand side of the screen...also, it should be on the 1st bios screen in the lower right hand corner....you really need to be using either 16.b03 or 16.b04 beta bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobrien
okay, well I just downloaded the bios from your sig and how do I flash from outside of the OS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Theres a link right above the download in his sig! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by tobrien
"ABIT IP35 PRO BIOS FLASHING PROCEDURE"
What seems to be the best bios for a Q6600?
At the 2.8 oc what should I be able to set the CPU voltage at? I know it all varies but what should I be able to do it at?
How should I have my memory set? 1:1 or what do you recommend?
Memoy temp is subjective, just use the hand method, if the dimm's burn your hand almost, your more than likely pushing them too hard, also a battery of memory test will help you firgure out a safe limit. Generally with ddr2 anything over 2.2v is going to reduce the memorys usuable lifespan, some dont care and pump more in, whatever floats your boat. A good ratio is 1:1, 5:6, or 4:5 is also good, those chips should be able to hit 1000mhz pretty easy with 2.125v or less@ 400fsb, or you can up your FSB and run them 1:1, just play around till you find what works best.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
Try to get good airflow to the memory though, from a fan blowing in from the side, or you could pick up the OCZ memory cooler, it works pretty nice, and looks good to boot, corsair makes one aswell
So you think at 2.8 oc which is all I want I can let the memory down to 2.125 even if it is rated 2.2?
absolutely, as long as it passes your test for stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
Ok, a little problem here. I set my memory at 1:1 and to get it up to 800 I went to a mult of 7 which at 400 gave me my 2.8 and also my 800. It says update success but when I go to reboot into os it gets to the windows sign for vista 64 and starts in a cycle of starting over. I upped the cpu voltage and the memory voltage but it still didn't like it. Any suggestions. I will keep on trying to see what is the culprit.
is 1.5v safe on stock cooling for the IP35 chipset ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
and is there any hersay / truth to using the black slots = better on 2 ram sticks ?
At overclocking Q6600: if voltage more than 1.5v, starting FPU-test (s&m1.9.1 for example) get pc switch-off. And the overheat is not present, falling of psu voltages too. There is an opinion, that in it are guilty only four phased PWM. On other mobos (asus,giga) with six-eight phases such problem is not present.
Somebody faced such problem? I am right? Did somebody pass the fpu-test on vcpu >=1.5v ?
yep but i dont think its works, still says i am missing ahci bios when it boots up =[Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
my system crashed and my on-board raid went for the ride and seperated ... how do I get them re-aligned in raid ?
Is there anybody on here that would be willing to give me an idea of what my problem would be. I have tried all types of settings. I have raised everything up like everyone said. I have tried some and not others. I have tried all at once and swithced settings around. I had it set at one point but it faulted on me. I am only trying to go to 2.8 oc. Could someone just speculate as to what the problem could be. I have oc before with some asus boards and they were a piece of cake.
Would it more likely be my memory or my psu? Please help.
I just recently got a problem report from vista that one of my hardwares had a problem. I guess all I can do is just replace the memory first and then go to the psu and then the cpu and then another mobod. Hopefully it gets taken care of on the first try with the memory.
Did you machine the PWM block yourself? can we get a better pix possibly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daemonfly
Re: Did somebody pass the fpu-test on Q6600 vcpu >=1.5v ?
Also: i have strange problem with bios16beta04 flashing. All has made under the instruction (from floppy), but I have "Invalid Windows License" message. WTF?
Hello guys.
I have this problem now.
PC: IP35pro, BIOS 16.04 (beta), E2140, Kingston 1066 2x1GB......
404FSB is rock stable, but If I set 405FSB or more, PC does't run. I see only POST CODE number 26. Where is the problem?
Please, what is mean problem n.26:
If Early_Init_Onboard_generator is not defined Onboard clock generator initialization. Disable respective clock resource to empty PCI and DIMM slots.
2. Init onboard PWM
3. Init onboard H/W monitor devices
THX for your help.
Do I need to disable EIST and C1E?
I had to crank up the cpu to 1.37 to get it to start but in uguru, hardware monitor etc. it says the voltage is 1.21. Does anyone understand what is happening to my voltage?
I have disabled some things after finding some info that I missed.
I disabled C1E and EIST and now readings are stable.
My big concern if it even should be one is I had to set my cpu voltage over 1.38 to get it to restart. I am only doing an oc of 2.8 with my memory at 1:1 and a voltage of 2.2 right now but will take it down to 2.125 if possible.
What is the voltage I really should be able to get my cpu down to now that all is finally booted up after many hours. I should have raised this up first but that is way more than I have ever had to do it before. Also, the only way I have made this work is through the uguru software.
Is this telling me that my cpu is not of the best or what? PLEASE can someone respond to my questions. I really appreciate it. Thanks.
ingeborgdot
for OC'ing it is necessary to disable C1E&EIST. And it is better to measure a voltage by multimeter. Also u can use CPU-Z.
I am using cpu-z and it says 1.34 where uguru says 1.38..
What do you think with a 2.8 I can get this down to? Do you think 1.3 is feasible?
I set the cpu voltage to 1.3535 but now in both uguru and cpuz it shows fluctuating from 1.30-1.31. What is the reason for the difference from what I set it at?
I disabled C1E and EIST (I have disable all cpu functions now....):(Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
as i know uGuru shows the voltage which is exposed in bios w/o any drops etc. CPU-Z shows more real voltage.Quote:
I am using cpu-z and it says 1.34 where uguru says 1.38.
Which CPU u have?
even TM? :)Quote:
I have disable all cpu functions now...
My software uguru shows the same as cpuz. It is the bios that is different.
What is TM?
I must have some pretty bad vdroop if that is what they call it?
Do you know what I should be able to get my cpu voltage down to?????with a 2.8 oc?????
oh, not TM - TC! (themal control).
ingeborgdot
what cpu u r OCing?
Q6600
Any truth to this? Might explain why I have to run 1.53v to get stable at 3.5 : /Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Does anyone knows what is the difference plugging single 4-pin power and 8-pin power for the IP35? Does it really help in overclocking? My setup doesn't involve a power hungry graphics card.
Now what is the best thing to test stability? for vista 64 bit????
I have 2 of these boards, one powered with 8 pin and 1 with 4 pin. 4 pin is clocked to 4.2 with crappy graphic card (it's a cruncher) and the other is in my 'main' rig and clocked to 4.4. I don't think it makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
ingeborgdot
i have 3.2 w/o any voltage increasing. I think it's too low frequency to raise voltage.
Obviously, the unsuccessful processor. What VID it has? Anything more than 1.275v do not reach greater results, on my supervision.Quote:
why I have to run 1.53v to get stable at 3.5
8pin allows to unload a little PSU and to raise stability as two lines of a 12V are used.Quote:
Does anyone knows what is the difference plugging single 4-pin power and 8-pin power
The best heating - Linpack.Quote:
Now what is the best thing to test stability
Prime - smallFFt.
OCCT.
If errors are not present - all stably.
With Q6600 all is a little differently.Quote:
4.2 with crappy graphic card (it's a cruncher) and the other is in my 'main' rig and clocked to 4.4. I don't think it makes a difference.
So just look up linpack, prime, smallFFT, and OCCT.
So what voltage are you at on the cpu and memory?
How do I tell what Vid it is?Quote:
Obviously, the unsuccessful processor. What VID it has? Anything more than 1.275v do not reach greater results, on my supervision.
Its a G0, batch L738B019, SLACR
U can see in bios - default voltage. Or use CoreTemp It shows too.Quote:
How do I tell what Vid it is?
my is 1.2000v and it goes up to 4375mhz at 1.58v.
Got Core Temp. Says my vid is 1.325
Ok, so I've been messing with this CPU for a couple days now. I was :banana::banana::banana::banana:y with it at first, thinking, G0, SLACR, 3.6 easy. I booted it up at 465 x 8 1.52v in the bios, and it seemed fine, surfed the net for a couple hours, ran some Super Pi's I was pretty happy. Then I started stress testing with Everest and it all went to hell. It just kept crashing = (. Long story short, I am now at 434 x 8 a lowly 3.5 and at 1.535v in the bios. It runs Everest stress for 5 hours then got an error, but the thing that is currently pissing me off about it, is 3DMark06. The CPU test either errors out and crash 3DMark, or fully reboot my system.
Am I missing something? I dont see how I can bench super pi and wprime at 3.72ghz then crash 3Dmark06 CPU test at 3.5 with higher volts. . . .
If someone could post a detailed BIOS setting list (detailed as in everything, especially what CPU Features I should have enabled/disabled), so I can see if I've missed something, I'd appreciate it.
Sean7
Did you tried to raise cpugtlref for increase of stability? Sometimes helps.
Write what voltages you increased?
For finding-out of the maximal OC it is possible to disable all CPU Features but ThermalControl.
Darth, is your VID your cpu voltage? Also what is your ram voltage at? Thanks for your time.:clap:
The software you listed for stability works with vista 64 bit?
I tried a CPU GTLREF of 70% on on both sets of core, did nothing to stop/prolong 3DMark from crashing so I turned them both back down to default (67%).Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Current voltage settings, 1.535, MCH 1.48, ICHIO 1.6, CPU VTT 1.23 ICH, 1.09
I had the board at 470 something earlier with a 6x multi, and the ram at ddr 1200 to test. So its not them.
And it for what?Quote:
ICHIO 1.6
It is probably necessary to increase more. It is very important factor for quad OCing.Quote:
CPU VTT 1.23 ICH
Sean7
Have u tested s&m FPU test at vcore >1.5v? If it's OK - what is your PSU?
Should I set my cpu voltage down so it reads about 1.20-1.21 in cpuz?
ingeborgdot
You should set vcore as low as possible at so higher frequency as possible ;)
So with a 2.8 oc which is all I want do you think the 1.20 is too low??
a simple test bench with wPrime bench, specifically the 1024M bench, will tell you if you have enough vcore....open task manager, performance tab, while doing the bench to make sure all four cores or two cores stay engaged.
http://www.users.on.net/~weigner/wprime_158.zip
Thanks ace. So how do I tell if I have enough vcore?
Ace-a-Rue
can you help me with my questions (about shut down and bios)?
run the 1024M test...it's going to either kick you of windows with not nearly enough vcore or it will knock one or two cores offline but while still trying to complete the bench...in that scenario, it will not give a time completion on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
like i said in my previous post...also open task manager performanc tab to watch the cores making sure you stay at 100% while benching.
what's your question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
It finished in a little over 500 seconds and I was doing work on the computer besides that. Can I do anything about it if 2 or 3 cores shut down?
I don't think any did because it shows on the form that all 4 threads completed.
ok i got them back into raid and now it won't boot - it is trying to boot from ahci cd-rom every rebootQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater
right; as long as all 4 threads show completed and you get a specified time amount, then you have enough vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ingeborgdot
that amount of vcore will allow you to perform almost any bench except for prime 95...i am not a believer in P95 as a bonafide bench that you must complete because it can give you a false sense of acceptance that your voltages are adequate, which can be far from the truth...users have said P95 capable and then can not complete a folding excersise or game with a heavy cpu dependant game.
if you must try prime 95, do it for an hour but you will find you might need higher vcore to complete prime 95...the higher vcore is going to only put more stress on your cpu.
stability is whatever you do and you do not have BSOD, freeze in windows desktop, programs close out on you, get uncommanded reboots...that is true stability...in most scenarios that can be done wih less vcore than required to complete prime 95.
go in the bios and set the raid drives as your 1st choice to boot in "HARD DISK BOOT PRIORITY"Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater
I did that and no go - just reinstalling vista and will use active@ undelete to recover the files from the old raid - namely my cod4 profile ...aaaarrrrggghhh!