ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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03-18-2007, 09:46 PM
Khalmyr

A quick update here...

I've tried playing a bit and I could get stable at 425 x 8 = 3.4Ghz @ 1.4v

A huge improvement since I kept the clock and even raised the fsb.

vcore = 1.4000v
vmch = 1.75v

Something weird though. My sticks can do 800mhz 4-4-4-12 @ 1.9v. I've ran memtest and orthos when I had a better cooler and ran the CPU @ 400 x 9 daily.

Right now I have to run my memory at 4:3 @ 318mhz

If i try 1:1 which would mean 425mhz it won't get Orthos stable even after i've crancked the vmem up to 2.2v and changed the timmings to 5-5-5-15.

Pretty weird..

Any suggestions?
03-19-2007, 06:38 AM
StimulatedBoy

Reverting to BIOS 1506 but how...

As most of you know by now, ASUS have locked multipliers on X6800/QX6700 (BIOS 1602 - 2001) and as we are approaching the launch of R600 and it's bench time again, I need to "downgrade" to 1503, 1506 or 1601 in order to get my system in bench modus again.

However, I am currently running BIOS 2001 and this does not let me revert back to any of the former mentioned. And for some reason I am unable to create a start-up disk and therefore cannot use the Afudos 2.17/2.11... The box where I am supposed to tick off the Start-up version is greyed out and I am just to stupid to figure out how to solve this.

Will BIOS 2004 let me "downgrade" or do I have to get my supplier to create a start-up disk (USB penn) for me with Afudos in order to revert? Or should I just buy a new MOBO and prey that the BIOS accompaning the board is downgradable or the right one... :p: Sorry to bother you guys but this is killing me...
03-19-2007, 07:48 AM
jozzy

i'm so sorry if someone already askin' it, what is the max fsb on P5WDH using the 1,85 vmch (rev 1,2 above) ??
03-19-2007, 07:51 AM
bichi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Halford

"...I need to "downgrade" to 1503, 1506 or 1601 in order to get my system in bench modus again..."

However, I am currently running BIOS 2001 and this does not let me revert back to any of the former mentioned. And for some reason I am unable to create a start-up disk and therefore cannot use the Afudos 2.17/2.11...

Will BIOS 2004 let me "downgrade" or do I have to get my supplier to create a start-up disk (USB penn) for me with Afudos in order to revert? Or should I just buy a new MOBO and prey that the BIOS accompaning the board is downgradable or the right one... :p: Sorry to bother you guys but this is killing me...

Just did a quick test using BIOS EZFlash 2:
- could NOT revert back to 1707 from 2004
- message: "... motherboard is older than firmware..."
- with 2001 or 2004 installed, reverting back to 1901, 2001, 2004 appears to work with BIOS EZFlash 2
- appears AFUDOS 2.11/2.17 is the only option for reverting back to BIOS older than 1901
03-19-2007, 08:36 AM
Amon 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfd

To fix ucode error, enable microcode in your cpu settings. To unlock multiplier, it's the first option in that same screen.

the microcode is enable but the ucode error remains. Only with 3 bios (now) don't show the ucode error (1201,1407,1501). for multi in bios is unlocked(i have a qx6700) but only 2 cores ging up and the other 2 core remain with multi in default (10x) in windows. I have tried 12 bios but only three go without ucode error but nothing of it unlock all multi for my qx6700!:(
03-19-2007, 09:07 AM
nicepun

Well I may give the GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3 a try.
03-19-2007, 09:16 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon 83

the microcode is enable but the ucode error remains. Only with 3 bios (now) don't show the ucode error (1201,1407,1501). for multi in bios is unlocked(i have a qx6700) but only 2 cores ging up and the other 2 core remain with multi in default (10x) in windows. I have tried 12 bios but only three go without ucode error but nothing of it unlock all multi for my qx6700!:(

reflash bios
03-19-2007, 10:52 AM
cherrypik

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrypik

I have updated to the most current ethernet driver and still get booted after an hour of online gaming. Can overclocking cause this? I know for sure it's not my cable co. or route

I checked the EVGA website and it sounds like it's my EVGA 7800GT.
03-19-2007, 11:00 AM
nickfd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Halford

As most of you know by now, ASUS have locked multipliers on X6800/QX6700 (BIOS 1602 - 2001) and as we are approaching the launch of R600 and it's bench time again, I need to "downgrade" to 1503, 1506 or 1601 in order to get my system in bench modus again.

However, I am currently running BIOS 2001 and this does not let me revert back to any of the former mentioned. And for some reason I am unable to create a start-up disk and therefore cannot use the Afudos 2.17/2.11... The box where I am supposed to tick off the Start-up version is greyed out and I am just to stupid to figure out how to solve this.

Will BIOS 2004 let me "downgrade" or do I have to get my supplier to create a start-up disk (USB penn) for me with Afudos in order to revert? Or should I just buy a new MOBO and prey that the BIOS accompaning the board is downgradable or the right one... :p: Sorry to bother you guys but this is killing me...

Use this program from HP to format your USB device to make it bootable. Once it's set, you can copy over your bios files and the afudos 2.11 program to it and boot.

URL to download here: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/fi...oad/23839.html

I've used this program to make my usbkey bootable for when I need to reflash my xbox 360. Works great!
03-19-2007, 01:30 PM
energy1959

My first question

I am very happy to stay here, into nice Expert and Extreme System Forum.

I have 1 matherboard ASUS P5W DH DELUXE, i have buyed 4 memory CORSAIR 1GB (total 4 gb), and i have used one bios the function on chipset, MEMORY REMAPPED on.
The bios see all 4 gb of memory, but my windows xp pro 32 bit, see only 3.12 gb.

Is possible remap all memory on system? or not?
64 bit system only allocate 128gb of memory?

Thanks a lot in advance all, and bye from italy.

Sorry for not my perfect language..

Bye all friends and moderation team.;)

Asus P5W DH Deluxe - Bios 2004 | 4 ram da 1 gb Corsair Xms 2/ 5-5-5-12 | Core Duo 6600 conroe 2.4 gb no Overclock | Geforce 7950 Gt Gainward Bliss | Xion Power Real 500w | 2 dischi Maxtor Diamondmax10 250 gb sata2 | Plextor PX-755A | Samsung S182 |Club3d Theatron | Ketron SD2 Orchestral Wizard | Webcam Creative Live!Cam Voice | U.S Robotics MaxG adsl Gateway | Microsoft Force Feedback | Microsoft Mouse Habu' | C.M. Stacker | Samsung Syncmaster 910MP| Epson DX5000 | Ups Kraun 1200
03-19-2007, 01:45 PM
lawrywild

32 bit, even with PAE, cannot fully utilise 4GB, I tried and failed and haven't ever seen anyone do it..
03-19-2007, 02:44 PM
nickfd

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

32 bit, even with PAE, cannot fully utilise 4GB, I tried and failed and haven't ever seen anyone do it..

Grats on your new Xtreme Cruncher title, lawry!
03-19-2007, 03:08 PM
lawrywild

LOL Thanks! I <3 white :p:
03-19-2007, 03:27 PM
infrared

Looks good! :)
03-19-2007, 05:18 PM
Khalmyr

Can anyone help here?

I can't seem to run my mem above 800mhz no matter what I try.

It's 2Gb Corsair XMS2. I can run DDR800 4-4-4-8 1.9v but can't run DDR850 even with 5-5-5-15 2.2v

Tried a lot of stuff but nohing helped.
03-20-2007, 12:13 AM
megabit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khalmyr

Can anyone help here?

I can't seem to run my mem above 800mhz no matter what I try.

It's 2Gb Corsair XMS2. I can run DDR800 4-4-4-8 1.9v but can't run DDR850 even with 5-5-5-15 2.2v

Tried a lot of stuff but nohing helped.

Same here! It will boot, but is not stable (lots of error in Prime 95 and real apps). There must be some trick to it, because the difference between 800 and 840 MHz is so small!
03-20-2007, 12:28 AM
energy1959

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

32 bit, even with PAE, cannot fully utilise 4GB, I tried and failed and haven't ever seen anyone do it..

Thanks, but 64bit os, allow all memory or not?
Windows Vista 32 bit allow all memory or not?

Thanks:D
03-20-2007, 02:05 AM
Amigan

Hi , only 64bit os's would be able to use 4GB.
03-20-2007, 02:08 AM
BulldogPO

No 32bit os will utilize over 3GB memory, everyone with 4GB has to install 64bit OS.
I have only 3GB and I instaled 64bit Vista beside my old 32bit XP.
Some programs work faster in Vista 64bit, WinRAR for example.
There is my memory at 4:5:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...hino_D9GMH.png
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...mory_2x1GB.JPG
03-20-2007, 05:01 AM
energy1959

Quote:

Originally Posted by energy1959

Thanks, but 64bit os, allow all memory or not?
Windows Vista 32 bit allow all memory or not?

Thanks:D

Any response for my question?

Thanks in advance to all.:D
03-20-2007, 05:15 AM
shaithis

Quote:

Originally Posted by monza1412

I ve a question to the guys that claimed about the degrading performance problem.

What was your MCH and FSB (most important) voltages??

I've been experiencing the same anomaly with my P5W64 WS pro board. Was running fine at ~400FSB and them "BAM" it reboots/BSODs when overclocked in the slightest, sometimes even doing a reboot after 5 mins from a cold boot-up. I kept on lowering the FSB and voltages to keep it stable until finally it had to be run at stock speeds.

The weird thing is that after 2 weeks running @ default speed, I have overclocked again reliably.

Its a very odd problem that I cannot get my head around.
03-20-2007, 05:51 AM
OneyedK

Quote:

Originally Posted by energy1959

Any response for my question?

Thanks in advance to all.:D

Euhm, BulldogPO answered your question perfectly:fact: :D
03-20-2007, 07:37 AM
mat8861

Quote:

Originally Posted by energy1959

Any response for my question?

Thanks in advance to all.:D

see bottom page 166 (enable flag PAE in boot.ini) i did not test it
03-20-2007, 07:45 AM
monza1412

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaithis

I've been experiencing the same anomaly with my P5W64 WS pro board. Was running fine at ~400FSB and them "BAM" it reboots/BSODs when overclocked in the slightest, sometimes even doing a reboot after 5 mins from a cold boot-up. I kept on lowering the FSB and voltages to keep it stable until finally it had to be run at stock speeds.

The weird thing is that after 2 weeks running @ default speed, I have overclocked again reliably.

Its a very odd problem that I cannot get my head around.

Now and then.. what was your VFSB value? 1.5v?

look for this thread:
http://forums.pureoverclock.com/showthread.php?t=680

maybe someone here is experiencing the same issues. Just be aware
03-20-2007, 07:52 AM
shaithis

Err, without looking I couldn't say for sure, but it was the first red setting in each case prior to the 2 week "stock speed stint"

I am currently running everything but the CPU at default voltages.....and its stable @ 350 FSB. I am upping the FSB little by little after this recent fiasco.
03-20-2007, 08:42 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by mat8861

see bottom page 166 (enable flag PAE in boot.ini) i did not test it

I did, and in XP x86 stayed 3GB max
03-20-2007, 12:07 PM
mikepaul

Quote:

Originally Posted by megabit

Same here! It will boot, but is not stable (lots of error in Prime 95 and real apps). There must be some trick to it, because the difference between 800 and 840 MHz is so small!

I ended up at 410FSB just because my Corsair refuses to be stable at even 411. The lack of headroom for OCing must not bother Corsair since they want folks to buy the even-better memory, so I'm considering this a sad lesson about spending more than I want to to get that extra value...
03-20-2007, 05:21 PM
iadstudio

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepaul

I ended up at 410FSB just because my Corsair refuses to be stable at even 411. The lack of headroom for OCing must not bother Corsair since they want folks to buy the even-better memory, so I'm considering this a sad lesson about spending more than I want to to get that extra value...

I'm guessing it's the memory controller on the mobo. It died on me. The memory works like a champ on my new board but it was fubar on my P5W.
03-20-2007, 09:38 PM
ntvh

Thank you to all

I just want to thank you to all ..for all your help. :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :D

My system is running at OC @4.0GHz

Thank you again.
03-21-2007, 06:25 AM
Khalmyr

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepaul

I ended up at 410FSB just because my Corsair refuses to be stable at even 411. The lack of headroom for OCing must not bother Corsair since they want folks to buy the even-better memory, so I'm considering this a sad lesson about spending more than I want to to get that extra value...

I got some XMS2 here that will run perfectly @ 400 4-4-4-12 1.9v but won't run @ 450 5-5-5-15 2.2v

I'm pretty sure it's the board.

Meh I have been using bios 1804 for ages and i just flashed with 2004. Now my temps are all weird, it shows -14C for chipset and 64C for processor, when the coretemp shows 35C.

That makes my fan spin at full rotation... I can't revert back to 1804 damnit.
03-21-2007, 06:52 AM
psy4fun

What have you done? Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntvh

I just want to thank you to all ..for all your help. :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :D

My system is running at OC @4.0GHz

Thank you again.
03-21-2007, 07:27 AM
ntvh

here is my system: PS Thermaltake 850W ( you need more power ). CPU ver B, water cooler all the NB, SB and chipset by Nautilus, water cooler CPU block Storm, water pump switech, Rad PA120.3, Rad Fan 120 @ 3. Bios 1602.

--------------------------------------------------
CPU freq @ 445
Perform Mode:Standard
pci express:101
PCI Clock Syn 33.33
Mem vol:2.25
CPU Vcore : 1.5
FSB Term. :1.4
MCH Chipset V1.65
ICH Chipset V :Auto
Digtal Home..: Disable

-------------

Advaced Chipset:

Dram Timing : auto
Dram ECC Disable
Hyper Path 3 Disable
Dram Throttling Enabled
All PEG Setting Auto

----------
Advanced CPU

Micro Update: Enabled
Virtuallizatiom Tech : Enable
All else are Disabled

------------------

Device Setting

1394 Controller: Disable
PCIE GBLAN 1 or 2 Disable if you not use them
Jmicro SATA: Disable if you not use them
Serial Port Address: Disable

Final thought: The most two important are Power supply and CPU Ver B:toast: :banana: :banana: :clap: :D

I can not post my CPU Z database ( saved in Micsoft Words), if you guys know how please show me
So I can post for everybody can see. Thanks
03-21-2007, 07:38 AM
crazyea

look at the id and give us the link. we can view it online.
03-21-2007, 07:49 AM
psy4fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntvh

Final thought: The most two important are Power supply and CPU Ver B:toast: :banana: :banana: :clap: :D

Yes, probably the B version help you a lot (apart founding the right configs for you system). The TT Toughpower is OK, but correct me if I'm wrong: 850W can only make a difference in OC if you have a lot of things connected to it.
03-21-2007, 07:52 AM
ntvh

ID 179455 by Vincent Nguyen http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=179455

ID 179464 by Thin http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=179464

Hope this can help.:toast: :banana: :banana:

Yes. I do have alot of thing connect to it. two diff water cooling system, exshaut fans, 5 HD ( 250 to 300 G)
03-21-2007, 10:15 AM
psy4fun

Really a lot of things! :)

I see you are running memory at 5-6-6-18. What Corsair you have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntvh

ID 179455 by Vincent Nguyen http://http://valid.x86-secret.com/s....php?id=179455

ID 179464 by Thin http://http://valid.x86-secret.com/s....php?id=179464

Hope this can help.:toast: :banana: :banana:

Yes. I do have alot of thing connect to it. two diff water cooling system, exshaut fans, 5 HD ( 250 to 300 G)
03-21-2007, 11:13 AM
Malk4vi4n

I wonder what the 4,340 posts in this thread mean..is the P5WDH is the most popular board around here or the one users have more problems with.

Any news on that utopic BIOS that allow us to change memory settings?
03-21-2007, 11:28 AM
ntvh

Quote:

I see you are running memory at 5-6-6-18. What Corsair you have?

Corsair TWINX 2048 MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHZ:toast: :banana:
03-21-2007, 11:40 AM
psy4fun

Yes, the most loved :worship: and hated :hammer: board without utopic tRFC and tRD adjustments in BIOS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malk4vi4n

I wonder what the 4,340 posts in this thread mean..is the P5WDH is the most popular board around here or the one users have more problems with.

Any news on that utopic BIOS that allow us to change memory settings?
03-21-2007, 11:59 AM
Khalmyr

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntvh

Corsair TWINX 2048 MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHZ:toast: :banana:

What voltage!?

I have the same memory but i haven't tried any timmings above 5-5-5-15...
03-21-2007, 12:06 PM
ntvh

Quote:

What voltage!?

Of what? CPU or MEM? both of'em listed.
03-21-2007, 12:22 PM
Khalmyr

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntvh

Of what? CPU or MEM? both of'em listed.

Oh, sorry.

That's 445mhz @ 5-6-6-18 2.25v. I see

I'm gonna try that later...

I can't run mine past 400 no matter what i try...
03-21-2007, 12:31 PM
ntvh

NB, SB and chipset real cool and it will help.
Also try to use Bios1602
03-21-2007, 08:48 PM
Khalmyr

I updated to bios 2004 and now it won't revert back. I really wanted 1804 back.
03-22-2007, 01:20 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khalmyr

I updated to bios 2004 and now it won't revert back. I really wanted 1804 back.

Flashback using AFUDOS v2.11 or AFUDOS v2.17
You can download these versions from Asus's FTP ( ftp.asus.com/pub )
03-22-2007, 09:40 AM
el_

wow! just finished all 175 pages and my new rig is stable thanks to this thread.

E6600 @400x8 3.2ghz 1.37vcore
ram 1:1 400 4-4-4-10 v2.05 gskillz pk's
all my voltages are very low since I don't run a fan on my ninja...

the feature of the board are nice...my biggest problem is heat and I bought this to run fanless I hate the fact that asus didn't cool the nb/sb well enough without aftermarket features.

anyhow thanks again and I'll post again before too long.
03-22-2007, 12:38 PM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khalmyr

Oh, sorry.

That's 445mhz @ 5-6-6-18 2.25v. I see

I'm gonna try that later...

I can't run mine past 400 no matter what i try...

If you have the same XMS rev 2.1 sticks as me it probably wont clock much cos it has ProMOS chips - some will but most wont. Only early rev of XMS 6400C4 had microns - check the chip list. I unfortunately bought mine before I found this. http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ . That said they run fine at rated speed - its just the fun of overclocking them I miss!
03-22-2007, 02:03 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_

wow! just finished all 175 pages and my new rig is stable thanks to this thread.

lol nice :cool:
03-23-2007, 01:26 AM
Phoenix_TT

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesdave

If you have the same XMS rev 2.1 sticks as me it probably wont clock much cos it has ProMOS chips - some will but most wont. Only early rev of XMS 6400C4 had microns - check the chip list. I unfortunately bought mine before I found this. http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ . That said they run fine at rated speed - its just the fun of overclocking them I miss!

I must be really unlucky because my XMS2 6400c4 memory has microns as the sticker on my modules says it's rev 1.1 and I can't get it to boot with FSB at 400 and manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12. Even at stock FSB speed, it doesn't work with manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12, maybe because the board has problems with the 2:3 ratio (is that correct ?)

And yes I'm setting the memory voltage to be 2.1v
03-23-2007, 09:31 AM
Jazz_33

stuck in single channel

Recently set up the Asus P5W and used WINTEC AMPX 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Latest bios, still the motherboard posts with the memory as single channel.

Suggestions?

Thx, Bob
03-23-2007, 10:15 AM
lawrywild

try different sticks in different slots?

Are both sticks detected as 1gb single channel or just one stick which would indicate a dead stick or channel/slot
03-23-2007, 10:27 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

I must be really unlucky because my XMS2 6400c4 memory has microns as the sticker on my modules says it's rev 1.1 and I can't get it to boot with FSB at 400 and manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12. Even at stock FSB speed, it doesn't work with manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12, maybe because the board has problems with the 2:3 ratio (is that correct ?)

And yes I'm setting the memory voltage to be 2.1v

Try 2.2v -These sticks should do 1000MHz plus no problem with about 2.3v-2.4v Check this review out - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...dr2-800_2.html
What BIOS are you running and whats the rest of your BIOS settings and system setup.
Check the forum for previous threads on 2:3 and 4:5 on the P5W. This one was an Analysis of P5W DH memory 4:5 and 2:3 dividers with an earlier BIOS version by eva2000
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...php?p=1683353l.

Another thought - have you removed NB/SB heatsinks and replaced paste with AS5. It all helps the overclock stability and keeps board cool. Your problem may not be the memory but the overall setting/volts you are using in the BIOS - please post them.
03-23-2007, 11:30 AM
nickfd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

I must be really unlucky because my XMS2 6400c4 memory has microns as the sticker on my modules says it's rev 1.1 and I can't get it to boot with FSB at 400 and manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12. Even at stock FSB speed, it doesn't work with manual memory timings of 4-4-4-12, maybe because the board has problems with the 2:3 ratio (is that correct ?)

And yes I'm setting the memory voltage to be 2.1v

If I'm not mistaken, 2:3 is very problematic on this board when you start getting up in fsb speeds. I know you shouldn't have any issues doing 4:5 though (I've personally done it up to ~950ish fsb stable with my corsair pc2-8500s).

2.1v *should* be enough, however you may want to try 2.2 or even 2.3, however I'd highly recommend running a fan nearby to displace some of the heat that it will cause.

There was a great article I read the other day on cas latencies vs higher fsb with c2d cpus (but focusing on nforce680 chipset since you could asynchronously split cpu ram fsbs). One of the sidenotes was operating temperatures of ram and voltages required to hit the higher fsbs. I think at 2.2-2.4v, some of the sticks got up to the 50s or even 60s C!
03-23-2007, 06:53 PM
Seb R

Transfer mode issues

Hi folks...

(Firstly apologies for the lengthy post :()
I've been scouring the net for an answer to this, and it's already been mentioned in this forum. Transfer modes. Basically I think there is some problem with my setup... Essentially I'm finding it difficult to deduce if my devices are working at the correct speed!
I've used SiSoftware Sandra XI to provide me with the following transfer mode details:

Intel Raid 0 Volume (SATA) on ICH7
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-9
Maximum DMA SW Mode : SWDMA-6
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-6
Current Active Mode : PIO-9

External Disk 0 (This is a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9) (SATA) on ICH7 (Orange port)
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-6
Current Active Mode : UDMA-5

Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 (SATA) on ICH7
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-6
Current Active Mode : UDMA-5

WD Caviar (PATA) on JMicron
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-5
Current Active Mode : UDMA-5

Samsung Spinpoint (PATA) on JMicron
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-5
Current Active Mode : UDMA-5

Plextor 760SA (SATA) on JMicron
Transfer modes not listed (shown as SCSI)

LG DVD-ROM (PATA) on ICH7
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA SW Mode : SWDMA-2
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-2
Current Active Mode : UDMA-2

Plextor Premium (PATA) on ICH7
Maximum PIO Mode : PIO-4
Maximum DMA SW Mode : SWDMA-2
Maximum DMA MW Mode : MWDMA-2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UDMA-2
Current Active Mode : UDMA-2

Device Manager could only offer the following:
- Lists two devices on PRIMARY IDE CHANNEL as operating in UDMA-2 (Obviously the LG and Plex Premium)
- On SECONDARY IDE CHANNEL transfer mode "Not applicable"

I'm running WinXP SP2 on the RAID0, and as far as I can tell the two PATA opticals on the ICH7 are fine at UDMA-2 (??), and the two PATA HDDs on the JMicron should be at UDMA-6 not 5 (as it's spec'd as a ATA133 port). I can't find out what PIO-9 is, but it doesn't sound right! Also the Plextor DVD-RW drive on the JMicron seems to be sluggish sometimes, but I can't seem to find it's transfer mode and am worried as burning certified discs at 16x produces dodgy discs... Can anybody shed some light on why it all appears to be a little odd? (Also for some reason the PATA drives on the JMicron never power down like all of the others on the ICH7, why is this?)

Cheers,
Seb
03-24-2007, 04:55 AM
jimmsch

I just purchased some new RAM. I got the Buffalo Firestix 2 X 1GB PC2 8000 CL5 - FSX1000D2C-K2G, DDR2 1000. My question is will tyhis work on the P5W DH Dlx? I suppose I should have asked this b4 buying!!

Thx -Jim
03-24-2007, 09:49 AM
sesdave

They have Micron GKX chips so they should be very good overclockers. Read this review from this forum. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=135019
03-25-2007, 05:50 AM
Iannis

Hi there

can i go back from 1909 to 1705 bios??

what about new 2004??
03-25-2007, 06:18 AM
jimmsch

quote from page 56 (I think)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkentyne

I'm not sure that lower CPU multipliers really stress the 6800 more.
I think what happens is the CPU tries to complete its "power up" routines at the default multiplier (11), before the BIOS even initializes. That's why the X6800 won't post at lower multipliers and very high FSB unless you increase the vcore. The Nemesis already found this out. The vcore increase you need is equal to the vcore needed for posting at the exact same speed you would have if you were using an 11x multi (example: 400 FSBx9=3600 mhz, but would require the CPU to be able to low level POST at 400x11).

That's what I've found out; maybe I'm wrong.

You should be able to test this by using CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows, from your normal stable overclock (let's say you are using 360x10=3600 or 328x11, and then a clockgen or setfsb or whatever to increase the FSB. (goal=400x9?) CPU should still work at the exact same voltage if the mhz remains the same. But it simply won't POST at 400x9 as it tries to post at 400x11.

Multiplier unlocking is done by the BIOS giving a command to the CPU to lower the multiplier, if I recall correctly, not by "writing" a new multiplier into the CPU flash memory or something like that. Otherwise the CPU would keep the lower multplier as default if you switched motherboards, which it does not. (correct me if I'm wrong).

How did I come to this conclusion?

Rather simple, actually.
my X6800 cpu posts and runs fine (dual prime stable) at 360x10=3600, 1.5125v. But put CPU at 370x10=3700, and the CPU won't even POST (which is unheard of for anyone doing a 100 mhz clock higher). If I increase vcore to 1.55v, it posts all the time. 1.575v for stability in windows/games.

That only makes sense if the CPU were actually trying to POST at 4070 mhz (370x11) at 1.5125v, before BIOS takes over and lowers the multiplier.

If this is true than my nice stable OC of 350 x 10 and 1.4000vcore would at least POST if I change the multi to 11 in BIOS, but it doesn't. In fact I have to raise the vcore to 1.4875 in BIOS to POST at 350 x 11.

Like I said 350 x 10 is perfectly stable dual Orthos 12+ hours. RAM settings stay the same as in my sig, but change multi to 11 and no POST, so maybe there is something else going on. I can POST and boot into Windows at 335 x 11 - 1.4000vcore but it is not stable in Orthos.
03-25-2007, 12:27 PM
rpr

So what is the most recent version and highest fsb stable version of this board? 1.05G???
03-25-2007, 03:57 PM
J33pG33k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazz_33

Recently set up the Asus P5W and used WINTEC AMPX 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Latest bios, still the motherboard posts with the memory as single channel.

Suggestions?

Thx, Bob

I had this same problem when I first got my board. After trying everything I could think of, it turned out to be a bad motherboard...one bank was completely dead. I took it back to my retailer and they gave me a new one.

Make sure that you have the sticks in the same color slots, and that you have the manufacturer specified voltages and timings set in the bios.
03-26-2007, 02:04 AM
mat8861

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

I did, and in XP x86 stayed 3GB max

A friend just told me that has 4gb of kingston 800mhz on p5n32sli and vista reads them, it reads 4gb .....
03-26-2007, 02:34 AM
Phoenix_TT

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesdave

Try 2.2v -These sticks should do 1000MHz plus no problem with about 2.3v-2.4v Check this review out - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...dr2-800_2.html
What BIOS are you running and whats the rest of your BIOS settings and system setup.
Check the forum for previous threads on 2:3 and 4:5 on the P5W. This one was an Analysis of P5W DH memory 4:5 and 2:3 dividers with an earlier BIOS version by eva2000
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...php?p=1683353l.

Another thought - have you removed NB/SB heatsinks and replaced paste with AS5. It all helps the overclock stability and keeps board cool. Your problem may not be the memory but the overall setting/volts you are using in the BIOS - please post them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfd

If I'm not mistaken, 2:3 is very problematic on this board when you start getting up in fsb speeds. I know you shouldn't have any issues doing 4:5 though (I've personally done it up to ~950ish fsb stable with my corsair pc2-8500s).

2.1v *should* be enough, however you may want to try 2.2 or even 2.3, however I'd highly recommend running a fan nearby to displace some of the heat that it will cause.

There was a great article I read the other day on cas latencies vs higher fsb with c2d cpus (but focusing on nforce680 chipset since you could asynchronously split cpu ram fsbs). One of the sidenotes was operating temperatures of ram and voltages required to hit the higher fsbs. I think at 2.2-2.4v, some of the sticks got up to the 50s or even 60s C!

Thanks sesdave and nickfd

I'm using the 2004 bios. I have removed the NB/SB and replaced paste with AS5, however I'm going to redo this and probably replace with Thermalright HR05 on the SB and Thermalright HR05 SLI on the NB. I need to check if the HR05 SLI will fit, as I have a Ultra 120. I will do some more tests (hopefully if I get time this week) and post the BIOS voltage settings.
03-26-2007, 04:37 AM
Lord^

Hi.

I just bought a Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB S-ATA, problem is it doesnt work.

From before i have a 250GB samsung as boot disk connected on the sata1 port (in the cluster of three ports) and 2x500GB western digital re2's on 3 and 4 (wheres number 2 btw?)

Now this fourth disk i tried installing on the EZ raid ports, but this didnt work. On neither of the two, i fiddled around in the bios but to no avail.

Other info, it shows up as external disk 0 in bios, and during post i get a 4th master hdd error.

I'm clueless :(

Regards Lord^
03-26-2007, 06:52 AM
LivingL@rGe81

I just brought a multimeter & tested the mem voltages & was suprised by the results!!!!

When set at 2.10V in the bios I get a reading of 1.90V:eek: on my multimeter!!!!
When set at 2.20V in the bios I get a reading of 2.00V:eek: on my multimeter!!!!

I check my 12V rails & the read fine at 12.20V which I thinks shows the multimeters not that out!!!!

Do you reckon the boards knaffed?

As I could run 500Mhz 4-4-4-5 2.25V with my G.Skill & now I can't get it past 980Mhz 2.4V!!!!!
03-26-2007, 07:06 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by LivingL@rGe81

I just brought a multimeter & tested the mem voltages & was suprised by the results!!!!

When set at 2.10V in the bios I get a reading of 1.90V:eek: on my multimeter!!!!
When set at 2.20V in the bios I get a reading of 2.00V:eek: on my multimeter!!!!

I check my 12V rails & the read fine at 12.20V which I thinks shows the multimeters not that out!!!!

Do you reckon the boards knaffed?

As I could run 500Mhz 4-4-4-5 2.25V with my G.Skill & now I can't get it past 980Mhz 2.4V!!!!!

Where are you measuring your memory voltages with the multimeter ?
Are you sure you're probing on the right spot ?
03-26-2007, 07:29 AM
LivingL@rGe81

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Where are you measuring your memory voltages with the multimeter ?
Are you sure you're probing on the right spot ?

From here & the choke!!!!

http://www.livinglarge.pwp.blueyonde...encilp5wdh.jpg

I just ran through 2.1V - 2.4V idle in bios & these are the readings!!!

2.10V = 1.90 - 1.93
2.15V = 1.97 - 1.99
2.20V = 2.03 - 2.05
2.25V = 2.06 - 2.08
2.30V = 2.10 - 2.12
2.35V = 2.15 - 2.17
2.40V = 2.18 - 2.20
03-27-2007, 02:17 AM
megabit

I think we're facing a real problem here: what is the REAL voltage, when you enter 2.15 in BIOS and the stupid AiBooster reports 2.30V?!! How far can I go without fear of destroying my sticks?

On the other hand, when I leave AUTO in BIOS, aiBooster says happily 1.80...
03-27-2007, 02:32 AM
2BIG4U

"latest driver" link is empty, anyone know the link where i can find latest driver posted like it was there? And there was a link to a guide about clean xp install with the drivers.

thanks very much
03-27-2007, 11:43 AM
roger_h99.nor

dimm voltage

My 68M0AG measures 1.97V steady (bios=2.1V) idle.
Measured with a DMM (wich I trust over any SW-readings..)
03-27-2007, 02:10 PM
Fr3ak

I will measure what my Vdimm is like in real. I was already wondering that once I set more than 2.2V in bios, the aibooster stops displaying the vdimm and with 2.15V it says 2.3V or something...
03-27-2007, 03:23 PM
GLENBOY

re unlocked multiplier on qx6700

do any of the newer bioses allow the multiplier to be adjusted up on the qx6700 not sure if the 2004 bios does , i think the 1506 bios was the last one that allowed it, its crazy that why have they taken away the ability to up the multiplier on the later bioses

thanks
03-27-2007, 11:41 PM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLENBOY

do any of the newer bioses allow the multiplier to be adjusted up on the qx6700 not sure if the 2004 bios does , i think the 1506 bios was the last one that allowed it, its crazy that why have they taken away the ability to up the multiplier on the later bioses

thanks

BIOS v1601 is the last one with working upwards multipliers support
03-28-2007, 02:08 AM
caater

please don't use that measuring spot if you don't have True RMS DMM.
You'll get 0.1-0.3v lower values..
vddr from bios = real vddr. there's no droop whatsoever.

So, if unsure about your DMM, use this spot:

http://alpha.frontier86.ee/~markku/975/vddr.jpg
03-28-2007, 02:29 AM
M3kk

Yeah, or measure direct from the slot.

http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/vm...m_read_out.jpg
03-28-2007, 05:28 AM
lawrywild

DutchBBQ, if you read this please PM me about what's going on with your drivers thread.
03-28-2007, 06:39 AM
TWY

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpr

So what is the most recent version and highest fsb stable version of this board? 1.05G???

It's 1.04G.. :) Unless you've heard news of 1.05G from somewhere? :D
03-28-2007, 11:48 PM
loutsos

@larywild

I can see you have some custom cooling on your northbridge.
Just out of curiosity, what did u with the factory installed heatpipe.
Did u remove it altogether or cut it off at the middle?
03-29-2007, 12:13 AM
Phoenix_TT

Quote:

Originally Posted by loutsos

@larywild

I can see you have some custom cooling on your northbridge.
Just out of curiosity, what did u with the factory installed heatpipe.
Did u remove it altogether or cut it off at the middle?

That's a good question and I was also going to ask larrywild about this too!
03-29-2007, 12:23 AM
OneyedK

It's impossible to remove without cutting it.
You might want to keep the cooling on the mosfets ;-)
(I simply cut it as close as possible to the mosfet heatsink)
03-29-2007, 12:36 AM
icrunk

What is the best bios to overclock with? v1601?
03-29-2007, 01:06 AM
Phoenix_TT

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesdave

Try 2.2v -These sticks should do 1000MHz plus no problem with about 2.3v-2.4v Check this review out - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...dr2-800_2.html
What BIOS are you running and whats the rest of your BIOS settings and system setup.
Check the forum for previous threads on 2:3 and 4:5 on the P5W. This one was an Analysis of P5W DH memory 4:5 and 2:3 dividers with an earlier BIOS version by eva2000
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...php?p=1683353l.

Another thought - have you removed NB/SB heatsinks and replaced paste with AS5. It all helps the overclock stability and keeps board cool. Your problem may not be the memory but the overall setting/volts you are using in the BIOS - please post them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfd

If I'm not mistaken, 2:3 is very problematic on this board when you start getting up in fsb speeds. I know you shouldn't have any issues doing 4:5 though (I've personally done it up to ~950ish fsb stable with my corsair pc2-8500s).

2.1v *should* be enough, however you may want to try 2.2 or even 2.3, however I'd highly recommend running a fan nearby to displace some of the heat that it will cause.

There was a great article I read the other day on cas latencies vs higher fsb with c2d cpus (but focusing on nforce680 chipset since you could asynchronously split cpu ram fsbs). One of the sidenotes was operating temperatures of ram and voltages required to hit the higher fsbs. I think at 2.2-2.4v, some of the sticks got up to the 50s or even 60s C!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

Thanks sesdave and nickfd

I'm using the 2004 bios. I have removed the NB/SB and replaced paste with AS5, however I'm going to redo this and probably replace with Thermalright HR05 on the SB and Thermalright HR05 SLI on the NB. I need to check if the HR05 SLI will fit, as I have a Ultra 120. I will do some more tests (hopefully if I get time this week) and post the BIOS voltage settings.

Last night I had a spare 5 mins! I set mem voltage to 2.1v and the memory to be DDR-667, with an FSB of 266. The CPU voltage to be 1.325v (as I have a wk24a e6600) and that's what I remember being on the side of the Intel box. Everything else on AUTO except for PCI Express Frequency at 100 and PCI Clock Synchronization Mode at 33.33Mhz. SPD to disabled and manual timings of 4-4-4-12 and guess what it booted fine. So 4:5 ratio is working (so far!)

I do need to sort out my NB/SB cooling and then I'll try get the 4-4-4-12 at 400FSB.
03-29-2007, 06:49 AM
miochza

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

DutchBBQ, if you read this please PM me about what's going on with your drivers thread.

That thing was awesome... wish it wasn't just a blank page now...
03-29-2007, 07:22 AM
lawrywild

It's a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II and what I did was said above, I cut the heatpipe as close to the mosfet cooler as possible. The mosfet cooler doesn't even do anything though, never even gets warm. I tried using a small bit of heatsink (kinda like a load of ramsinks stuck together, but as a single piece) and stuck on with high qualiy thermal tape, that didn't even get warm either...
03-29-2007, 07:42 AM
infrared

I went to the trouble of cutting up and shaping an old P3 Passive heatsink to go on the fets. At least that way i still have the stock heatsinks intact should i decide to sell the board.
03-30-2007, 06:13 AM
snq

I have an unusual (I think) and very annoying problem. I can't find any info on it at all, it seems like I'm the only person in the world with this problem :(

The thing is, I can't put my computer in standby. Or better said, it goes into standby just fine but wakes up again right away, not even a small delay. As soon as the disks spin down, they spin up again. Other than that it's not crashing or hanging or anything, but it just doesn't want to be in standby.

I have tried pretty much everything I could think of.. Disabled all wake up stuff in BIOS, in windows disabled "allow this device to wake up the computer from standby" for everything, pulled out the network cables, all USB devices, removed the mouse and keyboard, disabled network devices, nothing works!
And the most annoying part is, like once in every 10 tries, it does stay in standby. WHY!!?

This is driving me insane! Does anyone have a clue what is going on and how I can get it to work properly?
03-30-2007, 06:26 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by snq

I have an unusual (I think) and very annoying problem. I can't find any info on it at all, it seems like I'm the only person in the world with this problem :(

The thing is, I can't put my computer in standby. Or better said, it goes into standby just fine but wakes up again right away, not even a small delay. As soon as the disks spin down, they spin up again. Other than that it's not crashing or hanging or anything, but it just doesn't want to be in standby.

I have tried pretty much everything I could think of.. Disabled all wake up stuff in BIOS, in windows disabled "allow this device to wake up the computer from standby" for everything, pulled out the network cables, all USB devices, removed the mouse and keyboard, disabled network devices, nothing works!
And the most annoying part is, like once in every 10 tries, it does stay in standby. WHY!!?

This is driving me insane! Does anyone have a clue what is going on and how I can get it to work properly?

This might sound crazy and hopeless, but have you tried doing it with your system @ default clocks ? [ no overclocking at all ]
03-30-2007, 06:57 AM
snq

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

This might sound crazy and hopeless, but have you tried doing it with your system @ default clocks ? [ no overclocking at all ]

Yea, that didn't work either :(
03-30-2007, 08:30 AM
Dashik

Hi everyone,

Got this lot,

Arctic Cooling (AC-FRZ-7P) Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 CPU Cooler

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.4ghz) Socket 775 FSB1066 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor L640A690

ASUS P5W DH Deluxe SKT 775 dual-core Core2Duo Conroe ready Crossfire 8channel audio ATX

Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-6400 (TWIN2X2048-6400C4D) DOMINATOR

Managed to get it running at 3.6 but not Orthos stable yet.

Its also got,

2 x X1900XTX crossfire
2 x WD Raptor 150 Raid 0
2 x WD 500Gb HDD'd
Creative Fatality X-Fi Sound card
BFG PhysX
DVD's Case Enermax Modular PSU etc.

It seems to need about 1.325v V Core according to Core Temp or 1.448 in CPUz.

Temps are 41 idle with Core temp and 46 with TAT.
Load is 58-64 with Coretemp and about the same with TAT.
Memory is running 4-4-4-12 800Mhz 2.1v

I fancy water cooling when R600 arrives.

Seems to be running a little hot though so might back it down a little, 3Dmark06 is 10510 marks so its not too shabby.

It was setup as per this thread.

Any suggestions to lower the temps?
03-30-2007, 09:20 AM
crazyea

Better cooler, less overclocking? imho, 41 is good for 3.6ghz.
03-30-2007, 09:27 AM
ntvh

Try to find CPU with B Ver and run it w/ Water cooler..you will see your CPU go up to 4.00, 3.9 or 3.8 GHz OC:banana:
03-30-2007, 12:13 PM
Dashik

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyea

Better cooler, less overclocking? imho, 41 is good for 3.6ghz.

By that I think you mean 41 at load not idle? yes?
03-30-2007, 12:48 PM
lawrywild

I crunch 24/7 on my e6600 @3Ghz and it's constantly around 60 Degrees, so 60 load @ 3.6 is good :)

Mine needs a remount though..
03-30-2007, 01:15 PM
crazyea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dashik

By that I think you mean 41 at load not idle? yes?

No, Idle.
03-30-2007, 08:14 PM
aamsel

I had a very flaky P5W64 WS Pro, and just picked up a DH Deluxe today.
Reading through the various threads on the DH Deluxe, just a couple of questions:
1.) Are many of you actually using the WiFi-AP Solo? I have a decent wireless router and am assuming that it won't replace one? Or will it? Please explain the value, if any, of it.
2.) What BIOS version should I start out with for an E6600?

Thanks,
Andrew
03-31-2007, 08:45 AM
eblaster101

Quote:

Originally Posted by aamsel

I had a very flaky P5W64 WS Pro, and just picked up a DH Deluxe today.
Reading through the various threads on the DH Deluxe, just a couple of questions:
1.) Are many of you actually using the WiFi-AP Solo? I have a decent wireless router and am assuming that it won't replace one? Or will it? Please explain the value, if any, of it.
2.) What BIOS version should I start out with for an E6600?

Thanks,
Andrew

not using it but if you need it use it, but i read that if your planning to overclock everything that you dont use should be turned of or taken out in this case thats the wifi. But if your not overclocking it use it should be fine size of the ariel im sure you can find loads of wifi signals the best bios for overclocking is on the first thread read it. But if your not overclockign just put latest in i dont know which version specifically stops the cold boot this cause thats well annoying.
03-31-2007, 08:46 AM
eblaster101

@lawrywild can i ask why you didnt push your e6600 further than 3ghz.
03-31-2007, 09:08 AM
aamsel

Not sure if I am going to stay with using the DH Deluxe.
At this point, I would like the most stability that a board can offer with a moderate overclock and stock cooling (in a well-ventilated case).

Not sure if the DH Deluxe is the way to go at this point.

Andrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by eblaster101

not using it but if you need it use it, but i read that if your planning to overclock everything that you dont use should be turned of or taken out in this case thats the wifi. But if your not overclocking it use it should be fine size of the ariel im sure you can find loads of wifi signals the best bios for overclocking is on the first thread read it. But if your not overclockign just put latest in i dont know which version specifically stops the cold boot this cause thats well annoying.
03-31-2007, 09:19 AM
Leeghoofd

if you define a moderate overclock at 350 - 400FSB the 975 chipset is one of the best , fastest chipset clock for clock and superstable. If my board wasn't killed due to many powercuts I would still own this board and wouldn't have to deal with this buggy Nvidia chipset....
03-31-2007, 10:43 AM
aamsel

I am looking for the same 380FSB that I was getting with reasonable other settings on the P5W64, so I am considering the DH Deluxe, the Badaxe 2 or any other good board. This is not a "hijack attempt" as far as this thread is concerned. I do have the DH Deluxe in my possession, but not sure at this point that it is the best that I can get. People are happy with it and people are happy with the Badaxe 2, etc.

Andrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

if you define a moderate overclock at 350 - 400FSB the 975 chipset is one of the best , fastest chipset clock for clock and superstable. If my board wasn't killed due to many powercuts I would still own this board and wouldn't have to deal with this buggy Nvidia chipset....
03-31-2007, 11:21 AM
eblaster101

anyone having issues with coretemp making your computer reboot on occasions.

http://www.alcpu.com/forums/viewtopi...6e1133744d918f

thread shows lots of others having same fault and all this time i thought my overclock was unstable! anyone recommend other temp softs.

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