So... Solor. Whats the new x-fi mb on your link? v12? whats new?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
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So... Solor. Whats the new x-fi mb on your link? v12? whats new?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Im updating x-fi mb apps with new versions all the time (when i find something new), however dont think they have much influence on working of x-fi mb package, but since there is new version... why not until something breaks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mistargill
I finally managed to get 4ghz stable my 8gb mushkin 1066 kit 5-5-5-15
445x9
Running at ddr2 -1067(9) cant remember lol
with 5-5-5-12 timing
Dram Static - off
Mode - Stronger
Performance Level 7
cpu -1.32500v LLC on
CPU PLL -1.520
NB 1.31
RAM 1.84 stable (testing 1.80)
FSB Termination 1.26
Cpu Gtl x63
NB Gtl x67
Cpu Clock delay - delay 100
NB Clock delay - Normal
and such. other voltages are all defaulted to lowest possible.
Question. What does dram static control do?
I'm back with more question :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
I think somewhere on page 14x on this thread you stated that CMD. file generates those .kg something files on common file folder right?
if I copy those and put them where they should be after reformat. I don't have to run the cmd file and I wont have a risk of the virus at all?(100%)? and it will work as is?
it puts it in to %ProgramData%\Creative\SoftwareLock\ its hidden/system directory....Quote:
Originally Posted by mistargill
Found it!Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Thank you!
I decided to try overclocking my q9450 on this board once again because at ~3.3GHz the CPU was my bottleneck for Fallout:NV (not very optimized for multi-core obviously).
I'm trying for 3.6GHz which should not be a problem considering I was stable at 3.3 without adding much if any volts. I just don't understand why it is so damn hard. Nothing makes sense with this board. I understand what is happening with the CPU GTL but the board doesn't seem to follow logic at all. It is like trying to break a combination lock - you just have to get lucky...
Can someone tell me what the minimum VTT I would need to set to achieve 450MHz FSB? I don't want to keep guessing with that because with every change in VTT I it seems I have to redo all my other settings.
So finally I've managed to found out what was making the problems with the sound while I was using headphones.
It was X-Fi CMSS-3D, as long as I have it enabled on some youtube movies the sound is distorted and on some it is not.
Dunno why is that feature making troubles but disabling this options seems to help.
My Q9450 was stable at FSB 450MHz with FSB Termination Voltage 1.24V in BIOS or 1.14V real and CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.63X and NB GTL Voltage 0.67X.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrab54
With my Q9650 I don't need more than 1.20V in the BIOS or 1.10V real.
Has anyone tried to integrate Intel RST Option ROM 10.0.0.1046 into any Rampage Formula Bios?
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=91224
It seems kind of tricky. If you done it would you like to share your bios?
Thank you!
i did intergrate it in to 0001 bios (im always updateing this bios rom with new modules, however im not changing name so only way to know is if date/time of file changes): http://solor.wtf.la/Asus.Rampage.For...D/1002bMOD.ROMQuote:
Originally Posted by Korgan
there is also updated ezflash module, now it can read disks attached to raid controler and ntfs file system.
I would also like to know how to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korgan
PS/Alien Grey, is the XS-Rampage-ASUS-Extreme-0002.rom worth the upgrade over the official ones?
Does the XS-Rampage-ASUS-Extreme-0002.rom also have it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
How can i know that? I didnt mod any Extreme BIOS my self and no original 0002 bios does not have up2date modules... not sure what XS stands for, so maybe you should ask that guy that added "XS" to it :) and before you ask, yes i could mod extreme bios however i dont really want to do it, since i cant test it my self and check for random bugs...Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
Thank you! :up: I will try as soon as I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Hi Korgan, let me know how it goes, might give it a try also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korgan
Yes it is. With that BIOS you can choose the tREF timing and when you've got everything really stable you can use 16120T to give you the best bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
No, it doesn't have the updated option ROMs yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
I added the "XS-" so the old download link wouldn't work anymore because some guys are saying that the Special 133 Mode doesn't work and causes trouble. There is a link in the ASUS Beta BIOS thread on XS so that everyone on the forum can download it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
I also asked in the thread why they didn't release a BIOS for the ASUS Rampage Formula with the Special 133 Mode but I don't think that anyone from ASUS is going to give an answer on the question. The support still sucks. You've got problems, they confirm them and that's it. :D
Did you also add ASUS SLIC to the latest BIOS update?
So is 0001 still the latest BIOS??
Many thanks Alien Grey, I will give it a try :up:
yes... ofc thats like basics...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
I'm not sure but I think that JohnZS also updates the Option ROMs in the ASUS Rampage Extreme BIOS. Maybe he already has one with BIOS 0002.Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
I'll give it a try to see if there's any difference with the latest Option ROMs. You'll never know if it fixes something. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
I worked great! Thank you again.
http://www.imgupload.org/images/29_i...01124_1917.jpg
@SoLoR
The flash went good. I'm very happy to see that ASUS EZ Flash has support for NTFS. I didn't test it to see if it still working and if it's possible to flash from my HDD. I'll try it later.
Perhaps you can edit the text in the BIOS where it says that it doesn't support NTFS. :D
I did a quick LinX test and everything seems stable. Thanks a lot. :up:
ye maybe i will in next one if ill remember...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
edit: i did fix this as well, also noticed that with updating ezflash module, you also update cmos saving/loading module, so that one also supports ntfs now...
Does this mean that we can save/load overclock profiles directly to the HDD?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
yes! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
edit: or no :( NTFS is read only... you can only read profiles from it.
hey SoLoR is your latest 0001 mod BIOS named 1002b or 1001b cause i noticed both in your directory
Cheers
1002b... 1001 is latest offical but i didnt updated it with new modules.Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
So 1002b is the one with the updated ROMS etc
EDIT: Never mind SoLoR i found your description of your BIOS's earlier on in this thread
Your last BIOS update doesn't seem to work. It gives the "Bootblock is not valid" message if you try to flash it with ASUS EZ Flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Wierd because i didnt had any issues... ill check again with version on the site in case its case of a broken upload.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
strange i flashed over the previous version 1002b via eZ flash without problems. (bios file was in a USB stick FAT16 )
I'm trying to flash with ASUS EZ Flash from my NTFS HDD. All other BIOS ROMs don't give an error message but the last one does. The old 0001 MOD BIOS also works so it isn't because of the modification.
I also downloaded and install the latest driver and Creative software and this time I didn't have problems to install the 6620 audio driver. Did you change something and named it version 2 ?
About drivers... no i wasnt changing them at all, i did probably updates software pack once or twice in between and thats about it...
about bios... I also get boot block invalid if i download from web and try to flash from ntfs drive. However if i copy bios from my backup (usb key) to my ntfs drive and try to flash, then bios seems to be fine and everything is identical bit by bit... its wierd. Bios on page is fine, just for some reason it seems that flashing from ntfs drive does not work properly every time. Should be fine if you flash from FAT usb key (i personaly have 1GB usb key with freedos and "dos" utils on it, like for flashing and memtest and hdd test tools etc that i always use).
edit: double checked, if i download bios directly from internet to ntfs drive (tryed with chrome and ie) i get bootblock error in ezflash. If i copy this same downloaded bios on to fat usb key it doesnt give error anymore. If i copy then this same bios from usb key back to ntfs drive it still doesnt give error. So even if this updated ezflash gives some kind of support for ntfs it seems it doesnt work properly all the time, so to be on safe side we still need to use fat usb keys :(
You're right. The ASUS EZ Flash II V3.36 is a little buggy if you try to flash from NTFS. I also burn the latest BIOS and a recovery BIOS on CD-RW and I can flash from CD-RW without problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Thanks a lot. :up:
There are newer versions of ezflash as well (few 3.3x, few 3.4x and few 4.2x), but 3.36 is latest one that recoginzed RF motherboard (more precisly bios chip), i tryed most of versions over 3.36 without luck...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
That is correct :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Although I am nowhere near as clever as SolaR is at the BIOS Option Rom updating.
I only have 3 revisions of the 002 BIOS kindly provided by you :)
1) Original and untouched (No good for me as I cannot use my X-25's in RAID)
2) Modded with last Official ICH9R Option Rom, 8.9.0.1023 extracted from DX48BT2 BIOS
3) Modded with ICH10R Option ROM 10.0.0.1046 (extracted from DX58SO BIOS)
I do not have a clue about Ez-Flash ROM modifying, nor do I touch the SLIC ACPI tables :)
John
A picture says more than a thousand words. :)
Q9650@4.22GHz - DDR 1250MHz - tRD 6 - tREF 16120T - MOD BIOS 1002
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ODBIOS1002.jpg
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ODBIOS1002.jpg
What voltages?
These are the BIOS settings that I'm using for 4.22GHz and DDR 1250MHz with tRD 6 and tREF 16120T. I still have to try if it's possible to lower some of the voltages but it isn't bad for the first try with MOD BIOS 1002. :D
Code:Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
FSB Frequency [469MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1250MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A [Normal]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B [Advance 50ps]
DRAM TimingControl [Manual]
Refresh Period [16120T]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Lighter]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.37500V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.43V]
DRAM Voltage [1.92V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.28V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.65X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
I've tried to lower the CPU Voltage to run at 4.05GHz but it's still not possible to keep it stable and I can only run a few passes LinX stable before I run in to a BSOD.
Does anyone know if it's possible to use a higher multiplier with a QX9650 or QX9770 on the Rampage Formula? Or do you also have the VID failing to match CPU ratio error?
Alien Grey, i used to run the Q9650 on the RF @ 4.05GHz 1.35v, men @ 1128MHz 1.85v fully stable and that was on bios 0802.
if i were you i would jump ship and go for the i7 LGA 1156 CPU much better and easier to OC. ASUS has stopped supporting all the LGA 775 boards. Kinda sucks really but thats the facts. Since i changed i really happy with it.
I wish I was rich but I'm not. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by m4gg0t
But do I really need a new board, CPU and memory?
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ODBIOS1002.jpg
I don't think so. :D
Actually, my i7 upgrade wasn't even close to the price of my Q9650 and Rampage Formula was when i got them.
I always felt my Q9650 bottleneck my GTX 480 a lot. Now with the upgrade I can play AoC in full HD settings with everything on with no lag at all. So i absolutely happy with my upgrade. But if your happy with yours then thats good.
I'm sadly setting my Q9450/RF combo for an i7-950/Classified combo. It makes me kind of sad :( The RF is by far the best board I've ever owned. It's now going into the family PC, where I'm sure it'll serve a good purpose running WoW all day for my little brother.
It was such a good board, kinda sad that ASUS stopped supporting it when the i7 came out.
Over 3 hours stable. :shocked:
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ODBIOS1002.jpg
Nice Alien Grey :)
the newest Mod-Bios makes the difference to run the memory at >1200Mhz stable??
Yes, it does. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trust13
It's strange that it's stable with tREF 16120T with a cold boot but not anymore after a restart. The Dram Clock Fine Delays change after a restart and I can't seem to get them to the same timings anymore like they were with a cold boot. With a cold boot they are 7-5-6-4 with DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A Normal and DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B Advance 50ps but after a restart they are 12-10-11-10 and Prime95 starts failing.
The good news is that changing tREF from 16120T to 15600T seems to fix that and it doesn't matter anymore that the DRAM Clock Fine Delays are at 12-10-11-10 and it doesn't have any influence on the bandwidth.
I don't know why it can't be always stable with tREF 16120 but I think it's because the BIOS is build around 3120T and with using 15600T the refresh starts at the same time as it would be with 3120T only 5 times later.
I'm still running some tests but if it's really stable at DDR 1250MHz and tREF 15600T than my only concern is to try to convince ASUS to release an official BIOS with the DRAM Refresh Period added so when there's a BIOS update we can update the BIOS without having to loose the DRAM Refresh Period.
BTW yesterday i updated 1002bMOD.rom again. With Intel OROM 10.1.0.1008.
Hi SoLoR, where can I download it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
hereQuote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
many thanks SoLoRQuote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Back to square one. :D
I've updated the BIOS to the latest MOD BIOS 1002. No more 1T difference with 50ps skew difference. :confused:
Oh well... I know now that it's possible to flash the BIOS from NTFS. Thanks SoLoR. :up:
Edit: I was wrong as it seems that you've got to delay Channel A with 50ps and keep Channel B on Normal.
Forget my last Overclock Profile if you update to the latest MOD BIOS 1002. It makes them obsolete. I can't stay 5 minutes stable anymore in Prime95. :rofl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
:( sorry! not my fault when we can get latest oroms every few weeks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Don't worry. I'm already back on the previous version.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
The latest ones aren't good for the high clocks but I think that they are good for the lower clocks and should probably let you run stable with less NB Voltage. For the first time I was able to run Prime95 at 9 X 450MHz with NB Voltage 1.23V. Not stable but a little longer.
I don't know but maybe it's a good idea to give each BIOS update a different BIOS revision number because the latest isn't always better.
I was thinking about this, but wanted to keep name of file in 8 char limit... might change this now that ezflash supports ntfs... maybe it even supports vfat and long filenames, need to check this sometime...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
ASUS EZ Flash II has no problems with long file names. But I was thinking about the revision number. 1002, 1003, ...Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
It does if its on FAT file system... i tryed on USB key formated with FAT16 and FAT32 and in both cases it only shows 8 chars... if name is longer it shows first 6 chars + ~1... NTFS does not have this issue. About chaging revision number, well ill think about it. I mostly dont want to change revision numbers in bios because your need to change 5+ different modules and its kinda lots of work (read: instead of 1 min of changing OROM module, you get 20-30min of changing things in different modules). But i guess i might just change filename revision number next time, but bios will still reflect 1002.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
If you add the build date in the filename it should be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Not meaning to gate crash your thread again guys, but SoLoR which Intel Board did you extract the 10.1.0.1008 Option ROM from?
I can only find 10.0.0.1046 :( (DX58SO)
Also how do you get your EZ-Flash to read from NTFS? I can only flash my BIOSes from the USB key :(
Alien Grey
Have ASUS contacted you at all recently?
I have been trying to request that they fix the CPU VID Ratio error on QX9000 series processors on the ASUS Rampage Extreme (because they fixed it on the P5E3/P5E3 Pro), yet they did not respond to my e-mail :(
Does the Rampage Formula have the same issue?
John
@JohnZS
I don't know if the ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS has that error. I asked that question some time a go but no answer from anyone. I didn't have any contact with the ASUS Tech support since the beginning of this year but I did ask Bingo13 a simple question in a PM and didn't receive an answer back. :rolleyes:
@SoLoR
After a lot of fiddling around in the BIOS and numerous Clr CMOS and Load Setup Defaults, I've got it running at 4.22GHz and DDR 1250MHz with the latest MOD BIOS and my old Overclock Profile. :up:
Someone posted new intel orom on some other forum, where i also got new ezflash versions (mydigitallife forum). However there is big chance that most of new EZFlashes wont work with your mobo, its simple trial and error until one does and hope you get new functions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
Guys, my best wishes...:D:rofl:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3493
Thank you very much SoLoR :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
I am now using EZ-Flash 3.36 and can read from the HDD partitions.
(Previous revision which was included in BIOS 002 was 3.25)
Now, if only there was a way to fix the VID ratio issue by taking the fix from the P5E3 Pro and incorporating it into the Rampage Extreme/Formula/Any other ASUS X38/X48 BIOS....
John
How do you call this one X-Mas Clocking. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
I stopped trying to get it stable at 4.22Ghz and DDR 1250MHz with the latest MOD BIOS 1002. It was running Prime95 stable for more than an hour and a half before it started to fail and triggered a SYTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION 0x...3B BSOD. :mad:
So now I'm testing my 24/7 Overclock and just like I thought it runs a lot better with CPU Clock Skew 300ps and NB Clock Skew 200ps. This is good for low voltage but the downside is that it doesn't clock much higher with these skews.
It is surprising just how much of a difference those skews have, particularly when doing 8GB stability.
For me 300ps CPU clock skew is the sweet spot. Any less and I get failing in PRIME 95 Small FFT's and failing in Maximum free system memory Linx.
Anymore than 300ps and I get a strange and bizarre issue where the CPU runs in "crippled mode". E.g. my GFlops drop from ~50Gflops down to 30Glops.
Likewise my Everest benches run lower for CPU Queen . (down from 303xx to 201xx) This is for a QX9650 @ 3.6Ghz on a Rampage Extreme. I thought I would mention Skew as it may happen for you too on the Rampage Formulae
NB Skew I am running at 300ps too, as 200ps requires slightly more voltage on the NB.
Have you played with DRAM Skew? and NB Strap?
I found that the 200strap on the RE enabled me to get 8GB @ 1600Mhz
John
Have you tried with pl7, otherwise (i think) i am stable @ 422 - 1173 and you know, there is not a big performance difference between 1250 and 1173...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
edit:
Btw, which bios is best do you think ?
No didn't try that. The reasson I'm trying with DDR 1250MHz is only because ASUS put that in the QVL so why not give it a try. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
You always said that you could never have anything stable with CPU Clock Skew 200ps and NB Clock Skew 100ps. With the latest MOD BIOS 1002 I'm doing fine with CPU Clock Skew 300ps and NB Clock Skew 200ps so why don't you try this one with CPU Clock Skew 200ps and NB Clock Skew 100ps.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
While you try that see if it makes any difference to use DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A Normal and DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B Advance 50ps. ;)
I think im using 1002bMOD but not the last one. Now im stable @ 422fsb while using CPU Clock Skew 200ps and NB Clock Skew 100ps ;) Ill try 1250 while using the DRAM CLK Skews settings you sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Let's see if you are as lucky as me and can get it stable running for a while with DDR 1250MHz. :D If you run Prime95 use custom and take 3200Mb memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
If you want to try CPU Clock Skew 300ps and NB Clock Skew 200ps than you should also try with DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A Delay 50ps and DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B Normal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Doesnt work. Prime small fails when i run ddr 1250 even with a bit higher volts, the good news is that system is stable at 469-1173 :)
JohnZS, which is the best BIOS to run 8GB on the Rampage Extreme :shrug:
I've already retired my Asus P5E x38@Rampage Formula for good (it is runing E5200 now).
GB-EP45UD3P is great and my best LinX accomplishment is 8 succesfull passes at 4.6GHz.
Q9650@4905MHz
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/971/cine545.th.jpg
Nice results but why does Cinebench show your Q9650 at 4.5GHz and CPU-Z at 4.9GHz? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
4.5 is my 24/7. I used EasyTune 6 to set my bench frequencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Here you can see how this board is handling high fsb overclocks.
Very nice result. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Gigabyte spended a lot of time to build a good BIOS that can handle these high clocks. And we're still waiting for ASUS to open up ours like they promised a year a go. :D:rofl::ROTF:
For what it's worth. :shrug: My 24/7 Overclock with MOD BIOS 1002. :rolleyes:
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ODBIOS1002.jpg
BIOS Settings:
Quote:
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
FSB Frequency [450MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1199MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A [Delay 50ps]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B [Normal]
DRAM TimingControl [Manual]
Refresh Period [16120T]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Lighter]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.30000V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.27V]
DRAM Voltage [1.80V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.65X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 300ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
The BIOS definitely likes CPU Clock Skew Delay 300ps and NB Clock Skew Delay 200ps. But as always I'm going to try for more. ;)
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...page%20Formula
@SoLoR
When you don't like me telling on the ASUS Forum that you build the MOD BIOS 1002 than I'm going to remove it from the post.
Nah i dont mind... doubt they care much about moding bios, they would probably more care about moded drivers (since Creative is part of this as well) then moded bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
Someone was asking for a new SoundMAX driver because the beta 6585 driver is unstable so I replied to him to search this thread but didn't say anything about Creative or mod driver because I don't think that ASUS is going to release a new driver for the Supreme FX II.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Speaking of which I've recently run into some stability issues with 6620.
I've installed it via the update method and everything works fine and then after a few days the sound stopped working and when
I went into the playback devices windows detected sound enhancements causing issues and offered to disable them.
This fixed the sound issue, but now the eax effects etc don't work.
I think the 6600 driver maybe best
EDIT: The same thing just happened with the 6600 driver
@leo27
Try this;
1. Uninstall Soundmax driver and Sound.Blaster X-Fi.MB
2. Delete "..\ProgramData\Creative\" folder
3. Restart
4. Reinstall respectively...
q9650@4.6GHz 1.42V 8C ambient
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1142/4600linx.th.jpg
Congrats mate. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Thanks BCBC, I'll try it out.
And OLDcomer stop showing off :D
I've tried to get it stable at 4.5GHz and DDR 1200MHz with the latest MOD BIOS and stability is worse than ever. :(
I've tried with different skew combinations and high voltages but it isn't possible to have it running stable for some time. :shakes:
Here is my best stable and more important relatively low-voltage settings.:)
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
FSB Frequency [460MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1226MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B [Auto]
DRAM TimingControl [Manual(5-5-5-15)]
Refresh Period [16120T]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.33750V] real 1.320V
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.45V] real 1.445V
DRAM Voltage [2.10V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.36V] real 1.264V
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enable]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.62X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
I tried with cpu300-nb200 skews and lower voltage and it was stable BUT i got very low L2 cache results. Ithought it was a voltage problem and thats why i tried with exactly the same volt-settings you see above but nothing, same low L2 cache results. I then changed back to my old good cpu200-nb100 skews and i got the results i was used to!
I also had problems with memtest while running my mem @ 2.00V but when i tried with 2.1V it went well. I have to say that one click up from 460 to 461 fsb and i cant find mem-stability!
So from now on these will be my new 24/7 settings.:)
Why do you use Ai Clock Twister Moderate when you can use Lighter with less NB Voltage and no difference in memory bandwidth?Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
I'm still trying to find 24/7 stability at 4.22GHz and DDR 1250MHz with tRD 6 and tREF 16120T. Maybe with longer timings I can always keep it stable so now I'm trying the default timings from the ASUS Rampage Extreme. :D
1st Information : 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 5 - 52 - 12 - 6
2nd Information : 8 - 6 - 6 - 4 - 7 - 4 - 7
3rd Information : 23 - 8 - 1 - 6 - 6
There's a little memory performance loss but that's nothing compared to what I could gain if I can have it 24/7 stable.
Ill give it a try :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Grey
And try the ASUS Rampage Extreme Memory timings. You'll be surprised how much easier it is to find stability. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
This could be my new 24/7 Overclock. :)
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Code:Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
FSB Frequency [469MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1250MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A [Normal]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B [Advance 50ps]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
1st Information : 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 5 - 52 - 12 - 6
2nd Information : 8 - 6 - 6 - 4 - 7 - 4 - 7
3rd Information : 23 - 8 - 1 - 6 - 6
Refresh Period [16120T]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Lighter]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.37500V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39V]
DRAM Voltage [1.92V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.30V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.65X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
The memory timings from the ASUS Rampage Extreme was exactly what I needed to keep it stable. :yepp:
Is that with the new BIOS A-Grey because I'm surprised your using the 200ps 100ps clock skews??
Yes. It isn't possible to use 300ps and 200ps with FSB 469MHz. I'm not sure if it is going to be 24/7 stable because today I tested it again and it failed Prime95 very quick. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
You guys settings are slowly but surely getting me stable at fsb484. Used to not run intel burntest for more than a minute now it looks like it takes more than an hour to bluescreen. I'm using much slower ram settings though, with mixed dimms.
Alien Grey i took your advise about ram settings and now here is my best 460fsb settings:
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [9.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
FSB Frequency [460MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1226MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B [Auto]
DRAM TimingControl [Manual]
1st Information : 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 5 - 52 - 12 - 6
2nd Information : 8 - 6 - 6 - 4 - 7 - 4 - 7
3rd Information : 23 - 8 - 1 - 6 - 6
Refresh Period [16120T]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Lighter]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.31875V] real 1.304Vload, 1.29Vidle
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.41V] real 1.392V
DRAM Voltage [2.00V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.28V] real 1.184V
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Enable]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.62X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 300ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
What i said about skews was bs. The problem i have with l2 cache has to do with my corrupted os. I did some benches with my backup win7-harddrive and i got the right numbers :)
Well its good for atleast 4 hours of stress testing. Still no problems yet though, i'll run it over night before i post the settings.
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That also counts for me. I'm trying the CPU Clock Skew 300ps and NB Clock Skew 200ps at FSB 469MHz and I've got it running but I still have to find out if it's stable enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
I think that when you can do 25 passes IBT or LinX without problems it should be enough and then you should try to run Prime95 for a few hours. Nice overclock with that Q9550. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by spy2520
BS again i managed to find out what is that which causes these l2 cache differences, it is my g35 logitech headset and now that's for sure :) Its easy to test it over and over again something i did...Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
...Couldn't even imagine...:confused: