i see you gave bingo13 recognition
bingo13 is the catalyst for the changes...he works with abit continously.
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any reported changes with new bios?
I'll answer my own question... I can finally run my ram @ 1000 w/ 4-4-4-12!!!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...untitled-2.jpg
yay new bios yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks bingo :D
^^ Holy crap, and that's with 4 DIMMS? :eek: Nice show!
4 sticks and stable! I'm 30 min into a P95 run as I'm typing this...
beofre this bios, I couldn't boot into windows at this speed no matter how much voltage I ran through my machine!
this rocks
can I say thanks again Bingo?
THANKS AGAIN BINGO!!!
that is VERY neat!:up:
making 3dm06 runs with my memory @ 1025 w/ 4-4-4-12...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/sonofander/12.jpg
ok, sorry... I'll leave the thread alone now. Its just I've loved this board, and the one knock on it was the memory performance. Now that its fixed, I'm just tickled :D :D :D
no...that is what this thread is about...SHOWING YOUR STUFF!;)...and, asking for help.
with the new bios B16.04.
core temps showing my Q6600 core temp as: 32,32,32,32 .
Guru is showing the CPU at 49 @ idle.
Under full load running at 3.6 GHz, CPU temp showing 70 while cores are around 57.
I guess I have to reset my temp EQ again...
edit: going back to B16.03 to see if it's better for my CPU+mobo combo
hi everyone, i'm new to OCing. i have the ip35 pro with a Q6600 (G0) and 2x1GB crucial ballistix. a fresh build with the GeminII cooler shows 60-66C in the bios. i will do nothing else until i get the temp down.
i think the high temp has to do with the way I mounted the GeminII. how tight should i screw the nuts without too much bending of the board? or maybe it was the line of artic silver 5 i used across the chip. thanks for the help everyone, and happy holidays!
Can't wait to test out the new beta BIOS, but finals take precedent. Once I'm home next week I'll have my new wc setup rdy and then I'm going to really try to push this setup hard using outside temps.
The weird beeping .... Does your board continue to boot up. If so, after it finishes booting and load windows, fireup guru to see where the warning is coming from.
If beeping but board does not boot up, what's the diagnostic code show on the mobo?
Also 60-66C in the bios is high. check your cpu heat sink fan install. I normally don't spread AS5 all over the CPU. I just put a pea size drop on the center of cpu surface (you cpu core is in the middle) and put the heat sink on top. The pressure & temp should fill /spread AS5 evenly.
Flashed to b16.04, and the vcore settings in bios is still odd:confused: had to set 1.55 for 1,43 real...but the uguru cpu-temp seems to be ok now.
I'm testing with Everest Stability test and Wprime now according to Ace advise. Will test today for max fsb.
the OS isn't installed. however, it is able to boot up and get into the bios and the "beep" (more like an alarming whistle-beep) keeps going.
according the artic silver website, if you have a quad core (i have the Q6600), a thin line of AS5 should be applied horizontally across the center of the cpu's heatspreader. this is my first time using a 775 board, GeminII, and AS5. i wasn't confident after the cpu/heatsink installation, so i wouldn't be surprised if this was the problem.
so yah, how 'tight' should i screw those nuts behind the mobo to mount the geminII? let me rephrase this.... how many full rotations for each of the 4 nuts should be applied after the screw-head touches the rubber spacer?:
screw head
rubber spacer
mobo
washer
nut
Well, here are my results ON AIR with mirror-surfaced lapped Tuniq Tower & q6600 g0... w/ the bolt-mod on the STOCK heatsinks + 60mm fans on the PWM and northbridge:
http://www.wangcharles.com/4.14ghz.jpg
*cheers*
Update: Slightly higher o/c after some tweaking...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=281786
I did not know about the thin line application of AS5. Thanks for the info.
I think the beep is the temp warning.
Go to bios, uguru menu and see the temp warning setting for the CPU. I think the default is 50C and therefore it beeps because your temp is over that.
I think the best is to re-seat and re-apply the heat sink.
I'm using the different HSF so I don't know the number of rotations. I think as long as the HSF sits firmly and tight enough, you will be OK.
The monitoring program is Everest
http://www.lavalys.com/products/over...&ps=UE&lang=en
CN :)
has anybody tried watercooling the pwms on this board? Any mosfet blocks that fit?
LAWL Aux 3 @ 7980 rpm....bet that sounds like a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing jet engine
This is my set up, except I have 4x1GB Ballitix Tracer. It sounds like you mounted your heatsink incorrectly or maybe used way to much thermal compound. I applied a "very" think layer only one the GeminII, I used a piece of plastic from the CPU packaging to smear as thin as possible, but don't scrap it off, I covered 100% of the heatsink before I mounted it and bolted it on.. I found it very easy. The hard part was to wire the mobo before installing it in the case.
So I am overclocking mine at 3.6Ghz and after tweaking my settings my Vcore is now 46 under load (temp taken from Prime 1024 test at 98% complete), my computer is 26C right now and it is about 62F in my room. So, something is definately wrong with your set up. I have posted all my specs in the last few pages... what fan are you using with the heatsink? I have two Yates 1350 and used Artic Cooling MX-2. I also have the second newest bio, just have not had time to install the latest one, definately recommend you get the latest bios.
How tight? I did it pretty damn tight :), that I was a little scared. But I figured worst case senario I will just RMA it. My mobo was slightly (maybe a little bit more then slightly) bent... will not go straight!!!... I tightened each screw slightly then tightened each one again and I repeated the process a few more times untill I could not turn any of the screws any more. I used a good amount of force in the end. (but don't go CRAZY!!).
Yeah, I made it (lots of other stuff too). Look at the pictures here:
Abit IP35 Pro: NB + SB + PWM + CPU and RAM Blocks
Btw, my Q6600 runs like mad:SuperPi 1M
Watercooled only ;)
Ace, help me out here man...
So I got my QX9650 today and tossed it in. Jumped straight to 4.2 (420x10). I set my vcore in the bios to 1.4475, but by the time I got into windows and opened uGuru, it had changed my setting to 1.3 something... WTF? lol
My memory voltage had also been changed from 2.3 to 2.325... have you had this experience? kinda concerning that my voltages are being adjusted without my knowledge.
anyway, changed it back to the 1.45 through uGuru, but it wasn't stable so I upped the vcore to 1.4875. Under load uGuru is reporting 1.4. I'm ok with that (vdroop is our friend on this board).
I'm really just wondering about the voltages changing... is this something that's just happening to me or is it you too?
Also, I have a question about memory speeds... I set my memory to 1050 using the 1:1.25 divider in my bios, but CPU-Z is reporting mem spped of 420. I rebooted into bios to check and it still said 1050, back to windows... CPU-Z still says 420? WHY??? Any ideas on this one?
Lastly, how do I know if my temps are being reported accurately? I'm using coretemp 95.4 and at 4.2, vcore = 1.4875 (1.4 load) I'm getting 52,52,48,48
doeas that sound right? Just want to make sure I'm not frying this thing cause I don't have accurate temps...
Anyway, this is definately a different experience and I'm waiting for some feedback.
thanks
the bios is off by 0.12-0.13, something like that!...cpu vtt is off too!...i mainly use Uguru to set the vcore which is spot on...don't trust the cpu temp either...coretemp is semi close on 2 cores; at least the beta version, 0.95.6.
vdimm has an "Auto" feature in the bios...leaving in that setting it automatically adjusts the voltage based on memory/fsb ratios.
on my board the top end vcore readout from Uguru is the actual vcore...mine fluctuates between 1.52 to 1.55...that top end vcore readout is almost spot on when i read it out on a DMM from the board...vdroop should only be 0.05 at the high end of the chip mhz...around 4 ghz the vdroop was 0.03v.Quote:
anyway, changed it back to the 1.45 through uGuru, but it wasn't stable so I upped the vcore to 1.4875. Under load uGuru is reporting 1.4. I'm ok with that (vdroop is our friend on this board).
it's the same here!;)Quote:
I'm really just wondering about the voltages changing... is this something that's just happening to me or is it you too?
i noticed the 1:1.25 divider was not setting correctly when using a certain range of FSB and or multi...try switching around on the multi which will require a change in FSB.Quote:
Also, I have a question about memory speeds... I set my memory to 1050 using the 1:1.25 divider in my bios, but CPU-Z is reporting mem spped of 420. I rebooted into bios to check and it still said 1050, back to windows... CPU-Z still says 420? WHY??? Any ideas on this one?
i would believe the 52C...beta coretemp 0.95.6 is just a little more accurateQuote:
Lastly, how do I know if my temps are being reported accurately? I'm using coretemp 95.4 and at 4.2, vcore = 1.4875 (1.4 load) I'm getting 52,52,48,48 doeas that sound right? Just want to make sure I'm not frying this thing cause I don't have accurate temps...
don't suppose you can arrange for me to get the new coretemp so I can rest my worried mind??? :D
i just got in the DFI LT X38 DDR2 board...going to start playing with that one...will let all you know later on tonight how that is going...going to try my 'G0' Q6600 on it first.
the only detractor for the board is that you can not mount the TRUE heatsink towards the rear case exhaust fan...you have to point it upwards towards the PSU (fan)...BUT...i have one of those Ultra 90 heatsinks to use or a Tuniq 120 if i want...the NB heatsink base is a little larger so it interferes with the heatpipes on the TRUE when trying to mount it to point to the rear.
im assuming the beta 0.95.6 just adds support for 45nm?
Yes!
Fun with my new processor:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/sonofander/46.jpg
working on Ace's settings for 4.4...but this chip needs 0.025 more vcore, that's a little disappointment since 4 ghz were done so easy with 1,3775:(
Tried to play with ICHio an CPUvtt but has no effect in this board...:confused:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8885/440uguruma1.jpg
With this vcore my temps benching with wprime 1024 test were too high for a 24/7 use, 77,76,70,69 this is everest read...
can you tell me if there's some differences of temps between coretemp 95.6 and everest?
try increasing your ICHIO to 1.7 and MCH up to 1.56...also, put your memory into 1:1 and loose timings 5-5-5-15-42..or leave it in auto but make sure the timings are loose after getting to the desktop.
increase your CPU GTLREF to either 69% or 70%...AND CPU VTT to around 1.20...set these voltages using Uguru...bios is not accurate with vcore and a few other settings.
if all fails, i suspect your water cooling system is not keeping up with cooling the cpu when doing the 1024M bench.
I have cooldbug problems with the beta 16 bios.
At -100 the computer shuts down.
In bios or boot menu, it dosent matter.
Enabled or disabled temp reading :(
put a space heater on the board:D
kidding aside..i heard the cold bug is there for the QX9650...some where in your temp range...you can PM "FUGGER"...he should know more about it.
thanks man, with my initial settings i've been able to pass the 1024 bench, but i was looking to low my vcore, since the temps were insane, tried your recommendations without success.
later tried 11X400 and passed 1024 bench with 1.55, maybe my chip is just a bad fsb clocker.
And yes this waterchill xternal is not a high end system so far...:shakes:
Hi there,
I've updated the original thread with the latest official drivers, latest bios & beta bios, more ram compatability, more cpu cooler comptability. :clap:
if it's a hi lo like a siren then that's usually a fan rpm, temp or voltage outwith the set parameters.
On that HSF where are the fans powered from?
Without an rpm signal connected into CPUFan1 header you'll probably get a warning but your idle temps are very high too.
This may be too much to ask but I would like someone to give me some info on the ocing of the IP35 Pro. I have the the Q6600 along with Crucial Ballistix 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800. I have not had the time to look at the 50+ pages on here to see the settings for ocing this board with this hardware. I have done very little ocing but I have done some. I would appreciate it if you would tell me all the settings that I need to make to get it running at 2.8. That is all the higher I want it to go. Is that too high? It will only be air cooled and I don't want it much hotter than it is right now. In a 70 degree room at idle it is between 29-30 degrees. I have the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro 92mm. I have it on a fan controller and running on low and it is at that temp. I do appreciate it. Thanks.
Download the latest BIOS. Reset CMOS. Boot into windows and load Optimized Default. Reboot to BIOS for 2nd time and set FSB speed to 333MHz, memory voltage and timing to specs, and memory divider to 1:1. Hit F10 to save BIOS. Run Prime95 large mode for about two hours. If okay, then you can use a higher memory divider to raise RAMs to rated speed. Run memtest86, test #5 for 50 loops to check memory.
I have the latest bios and reset cmos. What will the optimized settings give me? My crucial specs are 4-4-4-12 with voltage at 2.2. What will setting the FSB to 333 get me to?
You seem to know your stuff. I need to read some more but can't find ocing for dummies anywhere. I think I know what you are talking about but am not sure. Thanks for your help and your time but could you add some more for the mentally challenged? Thanks.
does the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 can be installed on the ip35-pro with vertical position without blocking the NB chipset heatsink?
I had my vcore set to 1.5775, NB @ 1.52, SB @ 1.6 Everything else stock (excpet memory of course).
Whats funnt Is I was stable enough to run 3d mark, wprime, Super pi, and I even plyed Crysis for about an hour with no problems, but prime 95 failed immediately.
I've never experienced this before where a overclock felt so STABLE but failed p95 so quick. Usually p95 has been a btter benchmark of stability for me...
I wonder if there is some weird interaction between the new 9650s and p95???
hey!...mid-term report, not finalized...SO FAR...the IP35 PRO is a BETTER board!...need to still mount my TRUE on the Q6600 which could do 3960 mhz and pass wPrime 1024M stability bench on the IP35 Pro board...so far, i have not found the right combination for the bios settings, which there are so many to set or adjust....probably i'm a little unfamiliar with DFI's way of doing business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Keep up the good work Ace! I love how you keep testing x38 boards against this one. I'm looking to move up, but till we find one that can compete with our P35 pro, I think I'll just stay right where I'm at...
So I'm still working on finding P95 stability on my 9650 so I scaled back my OC. Working on 4.3 now and finding that I need quite a bit of vcore to get it p95 stable
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/sonofander/43.jpg
this seems to be ok... I just wish the vcore didn't have to be so high. I could get away with 4.3 at 1.4875 if I didn't care about prime 95...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...der/stable.jpg
with these settings I can:
A. Run wPrime 1024 stability test as many times as I want (just went through 10 runs)
B. Run Super PI 32m test as many times as I want (just completed 5 runs)
C. Run 3DM06 CPU tests 1&2 looped forever and ever amen (15 runs before I quit)
D. Run Super PI 32M & wPrime 1024 test at same time
E. Run Crysis benchmark (looped 3 runs)
F. Play Crysis for 30 minutes
G. Type this message on Xtreme Systems Forums (for fun :D )
with these settings I cannot:
A. run Prime 95 for more than 5 seconds without one core failing :mad:
So my question is this:
Is "stable is as stable does"?
If I can do everything I want to do without issue, should I be happy with a rediculous overclock at decent vcore, or should I bang my head against the wall dropping OC and raising vcore until I find a setting within reason that will pass 8 hours of prime?
what do you guys think?
Im going to DIE in a few min.
no matter what bios, I cant install uguru, and Setfsb dosent run.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/...28c1f885_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/...de6777f1_o.jpg
i think your OS is probably hosed...are you using vista 32 or 64
ace should the file name M629BA_16.B04 or M629B_16.04
when editing the runme.bat file
M629B_16.B04
only 8 alpha-numeric characters in front of the extension
thanks ace,
(ace what up with this )flash failure, no m629b_16.04 file or you may have not execute the exe. file to be a bin file yet.
Enough for me.Quote:
So my question is this:
Is "stable is as stable does"?
If I can do everything I want to do without issue, should I be happy with a rediculous overclock at decent vcore, or should I bang my head against the wall dropping OC and raising vcore until I find a setting within reason that will pass 8 hours of prime?
what do you guys think?
I think that's a pretty good overclock:up: , i dont know how well are clocking those 9650 but i will keep those settings if my vcore <1,5 and my temps are <70 under load. maybe i'll finish the test with some x264 encoding... something quick like an anime chapter.
doing now a 10 loop of crysis cpu bench at 9X475 if it doesnt crash, i'll do a loop of 3dmark06, wprime, 4XsuperPi, encode a bleach chapter with megui and realanime6, and some pcmark05. that will be my " 24/7 low stability test "
thanks new-b works great, uguru reporting wrong temps on cpu, idle at 49c on water.
i want to tell all you guys that you made the best decision on buying the Pro board...i just finished (gave up) working on the DFI X38 board...it is well built but it doesn't have the overclocking abilities as the IP35 Pro.
i was under by 10 mhz on the FSB at default multi of 9 with the same processor that i used on the pro...DFI's board was best at default multi...it just got worse as i tried 8 multi...i couldn't get over 460 FSB where the Pro allowed me 485 FSB; all with the same hardware except for board!
So Ace, when do you get you x38 Quad GT back from RMA? Looking forward to you finishing your testing of that one... have you considered giving the p5e a shot?
C'mon man, I need you to find me my x38 board!
*sits back to drink coffee while someone else does all the work for him*
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
seriously though, this really is a great board! and thanks for all the hard work you put in Ace, know its not going unappreciated
:D
not sure that i will get another IX38 board...will probably wait it out for the X48...someone told me that the P5E isn't any better off...the guy returned his P5E and he went back to his P35 board.
Ace,
You're the second person that say the similar thing on the X38 board. My friend (used to be a reviewer at arstechnica) did a test on GigaByte X38 board and his conclusion is IP35 Pro is better. He said the only good about the X38 board is "burn a hole through my wallet".
Since it seems that you basically have to do the heatpipe mod, etc... combined with the fact that I'm already 2-loop watercooling cpu/gpu/nb, I decided to continue that theme.
If anyone has noticed, these heatpipe systems aren't even copper, they're aluminum (with a copper (looking?) coating). I figured "screw it" and decided to just make a waterblock for the pwm. Also had a spare maze sitting around so popped a new lexan top on it and will finish it up for use as a SB block. So, the mobo will have PWM/NB/SB all watercooled, so I shouldn't have any issues there.
I still have to do a bit of work on the pwm lexan top to get it to fit (tad too wide, and missed a cap that interferes. Once it's all finished & looking acceptable, I'll post pics ;)
Seeing as it's only 1 block needed, in a rather simple shape, it's too bad there are no other people making blocks for these, in numbers (unless I missed something).
Nice to see what you made up. Here's mine:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/mark...All_blocks.jpg
think i've found a spot to make it stable for normal day at 9x475, but i'm getting some temps differences when running high load benchies like wprime 1024 or occt, from hottest core to coolest there's about 9-12º
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5...me9x475sf4.jpg
are you guys getting similar results with quads?
My temps are pretty even across the board...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...nder/temps.jpg
I think you might be having some mounting issues. I suggest you remount your block and see if that helps. Who knows, maybe its time to get out the wet/dry!!! :D
yeah i'm thinking that too, i'll try re-mounting my block or testing it on my old EVGA 680i A1 out of case to be sureQuote:
I think you might be having some mounting issues. I suggest you remount your block and see if that helps. Who knows, maybe its time to get out the wet/dry!!! :D
Hey,
Is it normal for there to be a 12 degree difference between coretemp and Uguru? My CPU temp is 28 Uguru and 38-40 CoreTemp.
I need some help, guys.I got me another IP35 Pro with a e6550 and i seem to be stuck at 3.101Ghz.Anything higher than that and system would not boot.I would like to at least get to 3.4Ghz but i think my ram is the limiting factor.Is there any way to manually input the ram speed manually without using the dividers?I know that my particular ram would not go any higher than 920Mhz because i used it before on another system.I was thinking of upgrading the bios to the latest official one but is there any benefits to it?Thanks guts for any help and i will keep on trying also to solve this.
65c is the 'limit' Intel sets for 'Out-of-the-Box' non-OCed CPUs using the stock cooler.
You can probably deviate a bit, but I'd be careful going any higher than that, depending on your voltages.
So Ace,what are the main benefits of upgrading the bios to the 16.B04 beta bios?I wanna know more about it before i give it a go.Thanks.And yeah,i finally solved my problem.Stupid me,i had my OCZ S.O.E. PC6400 running at 1.975V@886Mhz and it is rated at 2.1V.Funny thing is,CPU-Z says it's rated at 1.8V.But when i looked at it on the "egg",it's specs says it runs at 2.1V and has an EVP up to 2.2V.I guess that was why it wouldn't boot at all if i went higher.So i gave it a shot and BAAAAAM,3.2Ghz:up: .I'm trying for at least 3.5Ghz on this CPU so if updating my bios is gonna benefit me on this board,i'll give it a shot.Thanks again.
Sorry for the off topic. Here is a picture of my test cpu that has been lapped. It took me about an hour. My real Q6600 will be next. I plan to do it sometimes next week.
Here's another question... has anyone everblown a Q6600? Just curious.
P.S. That lapted CPU is sweet. I was always to lazy and chicken to lap.
I'm not that kind of guy.
well, i will be taking my NB out of my loop since i will be adding my 8800 GT here pretty soon....i was wondering what everyones suggestions for a NB cooler are. Im thinking of this evercool which i used on my DFI NF4 board and it worked great http://www.petrastechshop.com/evvcvgcodnf4.html Or this thermalright http://www.petrastechshop.com/thhrhrichco.html Leaning towards the evercool since it is obviously much cheaper :)
rare to burn a quad up, it happens though. Usually only on sucide runs for extended time, or with people into LN2 stuff really pushing chips, even then you dont see or hear much about them going south, the cpu is probably the most reliable piece in a build, you would be surprised how much abuse they can take nowdays.
ram on the other hand isnt so tuff, or most boards for that matter
71c is the max recommended by intel for 24/7 use at 1.35v
1)For @sonofander:Every test you run is one core only (one thread). Prime/wprime/orthos use two threads and stress computer more than anything else even games. So if you are not stable there you are not fully stable.
2)I have also this great board...but
I can bench at 8x528@1:1 with no problem.
But with dividers there are many problems.
I cannot pass 550 with memory. So this board is very limited to max memory i am afraid. Has anyone run more than 550 on this board?
3)Performance level is not set as it seems at high fsb. Example:
Strap 1333/divider 1:1.2 / 500MHz memory->Performance level 6
Strap 1333/divider 1:1.2 / 540MHz memory->Performance level 7
Am I the only who can't download this new beta bios? I keep getting file not found message. I use the link in Ace's signature.
Also does anyone know if it's possible or how to make a bootable cd to update the bios? It's hard to believe but I don't have a floppy drive and no USB drive :(
Thanks for the encouraging words.
I was nervous too. That's my AMD 64 3800 X2. I also lapped the heat sink that came with it. It was not too bad. I expect the Q6600 will be much faster because it is smaller. The challenge will be the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. The base is small but the whole thing is huge (it's coming today) so I have to figure out how to hold that beast. I will post some pics when done if you like.
Use this one then from the Abit USA forums BIOS section
http://www.lvcoyote.com/M629B_16.B04.zip
http://forum.uabit.com
CN :)
Is there any place on this forum (because I apparently missed it if there was) where someone has posted there settings using a Q6600 and Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 memory? I want to oc to only 2.8. Don't want very much right now.
Also, where is the best place to find the best way to overclock. I need some info pleaassseee:)