Got my P5K today :D Can't build till 6/14 but I read the very uninformative manual.
Got my P5K today :D Can't build till 6/14 but I read the very uninformative manual.
Should i get this motherboard? My current motherboard can't overclock past 358mhz FSB...
I just bought myself a Tuniq Tower, so i was thinking of getting a new motherboard as well so i can overclock my e6300.
And is using the pencil mod safe?
It looks so easy to do, well it does in the thread about pencil modding posted a few hours ago...
Any precautions?
Also, how easy was the pencil mod for the vDroop?
anyone experiencing different readings for bios and everest under 12v after doing pencil vmod on the p5k vanilla?
do NOT trust software readings
use a DMM to find out exact voltages
Well, are you experiencing different readings?
Nice. After doing the pencil mod, I'm getting 1.320 in everest with 1.3375 set in bios coming from 1.40 in bios and 1.312 in everest. So it was a huge improvement.
Unable to do anything else at the moment, I just did 2-3 strokes over the mod point...
is this mobo works with OCZ SLI Edition PC8500 2gb kit ?
I'm getting my mobo tomorrow mate, will keep ya posted if they work with the OCZ 8500 SLI , I have the same as you... keep ya posted :up:
are there any differences between the vanilla and deluxe as far as voltage options and clockability go?
hey guys here is an update
ok so i got to the bottom of the pc4200 ram issue not booting
basiclly it needed spd to have at least pc5300
and now it runs pretty sweet :)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=205422
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8...rob256mqe8.png
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7...rob256mxa2.png
ah 2.5GB!
yup
all 4xslots occupied
2x1GB corsairs
2x256MB microns
and still 600MHz no worries even 620MHz 1M :)
nice.. P5K is a nice series
2GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Micron D9GKX Singles
@625Mhz 5-5-4-9
CPU Validation
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png
Super Pi v1.50
Single 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m43s172ms.png
wPrime v1.43
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...1.2/wprime.png
I have been working with ASUS the past couple of days here in Taiwan. We should have a beta BIOS in a week or so that will open up memory strap changes on this board plus a couple of other surprises. :D Running DDR2-1333 at 5-5-6-18 with 2.4V at this time without an issue for one. ;)
Ncix is having great sale on RAM .
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...o&promoid=1060
Buffalo Firestix FSX1000D2C-K2G 2GB 2X1GB PC2-8000 DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory $189 Regular $374 (canadian funds)
Yep works fine mine is orthossing now with a new batch CPU (30F and 44G) at 3200mhz (8 x400) and ram at 1000mhz ( intel divider ) 5-5-5-15 2T.
Ram worked fine for 4 hours of Orthos under stock FSB speeds (1066 5-5-5-15 2T 2.2 volts)...
Will see if I can get the same DDR800 speeds with 3-3-3-9 1T as on my Striker...
First let me say thanks to the OP for all the great info.
This really is a fantastic board and so far I'm getting 200mhz better OC than on my DS3 board, I'm up to 3150 @ 9x350 now but I think it can do better, esp with the voltages sorted out. So now that I've played with this a few days I think I see what the dreaded vdroop is. I can see in CPUZ my volts are about .04 lower than I set in BIOS and under load sometimes its as much as .1 lower. It definitely drops a lot under load.
So all I have to do is scratch the mod point in the picture above with a #2 pencil a few times and I'm good to go? Are there any precautions here?
BTW, is CPUZ as good as Everest for checking this? I don't have a DMM so I'll have to make due with software...
And also, while on the topic, what would you guys say is the max volt that I should safely set in the BIOS for an E4300?
Thanks in advance.
Oh yeah, and just in case anyone wonders, I got this Patriot 6400 RAM and it seems to work fine with the board, though I'm sure not nearly as good as your guys spendy stuff :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220144
arcticool
pls invest in a DMM
they are cheap :up:
OK, fine. I'm sure I should learn how to do this anyway...
I just got a meter from radio shack. It was like 12 bucks.
It's got a red pin and a black pin and a dial that I can set voltages and stuff.
Now what? Presumably I set the dial to something and touch the pins somewhere. I'm a little freaked out by interacting with electricity so detailed steps would be great :)
Before you start poking around inside your motherboard I would invest in a set of probes to prevent accidental short circuiting.
You can power down your motherboard make your connections then fire up the motherboard with less of a chance of damaging sensitive electronics
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5...4117qu9.th.png
http://www.tequipment.net/Pomona6231.asp
Here are a couple of articles that might help you get started using the MM. The second one covers other things, but includes MM. There are others out there that you can find using Google. Hope that helps some.
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=137886
http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/usingamultimeter.htm
Very informative links, thanks :)
Although I have to say, in the end I wussed-out and didn't manually verify.
I did try the pencil mod however and below are my results.
First let me say I tried CPU Volt Dampener on and off and found no difference at all so I think we can confirm this is broken on all vanilla boards...
Before first pencil mod:
BIOS/CPUZ Idle/CPUZ Load
1.425/1.400/1.328
CPU Spread On (interesting lower idle and slightly higher load):
1.425/1.384/1.336
1st Try Pencil Mod (CPU Spread Off):
1.425/1.400/1.344,1.352 (moved around a bit)
2nd Try Pencil Mod
1.425/1.400/1.368
3rd Try Pencil Mod
1.4375/1.416/1.416
1.45/1.432/1.432
1.4625/1.440/1.440
1.4875/1.215/1.215*
Looks like third time was the charm. Instead of scratching lines I went in circles and really filled in the top of that chip. Also had to be careful to clean off the lead dust that collected around it. Prob just being paranoid but I was afraid it would settle somewhere and short something out. BTW, my pencil didn't have a number but pretty sure it was not a #2. Its a construction pencil for writing on 2x4 wood and stuff, its thick and pretty hard but guess it worked well in the end :)
* At 1.4875 and above CPUZ just pooped out and obviously didn't work anymore. I know its not right b/c my overclocks were stable.
BTW, here are my overclocks with an E4300 (L2):
1.475V 360*9 = 3240
1.5V 365*9 = 3285
1.55V 370*9 = 3330
Not great I know but its not the board. I only got 9*333 with my DS3 board so its just not a better chip. Overall I'm happy with the OC as I think 85% for free is still pretty good ;-)
I know it has been discussed a few times (and shows my noobness), but when you see the list of Qualified Vendors for RAM on this board, do I really need to follow this??
I want to get 4GB, but according to this list, there is not many ways to do it...I need mismatched RAM to do the 4GB? Or two matched pairs? or the 4GB set all matched??
From what I have been reading, this is a great board for my next purchase this month...but I want to ensure I get the right RAM straight up...and really, I am not too worried about the cost of it either...present to myself :)
So, after all that above, what I am really asking for is a suggestion based on your current findings of 4GB of RAM for this P5K :D
I don't think the RAM list really matters. Probably just there to save their asses in writing if something goes wrong ;)
I'm running 2 x 1 GB sticks of GSkill ZX (DDR2-533) and 2 x 1 GB sticks of Kingston ValueRAM (DDR2-667). Just be sure to increase NB voltage if going to 4 sticks makes your system unstable.
I finally found a program that gives you accurate cpu voltages to 3 decimal places.
CPUz craps out at 1.40 to 1.45 volts so I've been using SpeedFan which gives you 2 decimal places but Lavalys Everest gives you 3.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2...tagesf2.th.png
Go into the Tools menu and select EVEREST CPUID
Hi,
i bought this board and a Celeron 430, but now it can't boot properly? Everytime i power on the system, it shows me this screen -
http://www.abload.de/img/hmmmn03.jpg
Anyone know about that problem? :down:
Regards
Doesn't support the celeron on this board, sorry.
Hmm, i downloaded the latest Bios now, and renamed it to P5KBASIC.ROM. Do u think it will work this way? If not i must install my old 331..
Edit: Works now, without doing anything.. :p: :up: :confused:
After installing Windows and did soem reboots, i have the same problem again.. :down:
Did you up date the bios to at least 0414? You might be able to do it by using the cdrom as you asked previously. If not you'll need a CPU supported by your current bios. Here's the CPU support link:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...l=P5K%20Deluxe
This board won't boot with just 1 stick installed! If i have the problem again, i will try my ballistix on it.
Hmm, did not tested any other cpu yet. ;)
Had problem again after flashing to 0414, thats really strange.. But the CPU is supported for sure, i already installed windows, without any problems.
Edit: Now i have a new problem.. :( Bios do not dedect keyboard on startup, that means i can not enter bios.. But if i'am into windows, the keyboard works just fine?! Crazy board..
If I were you, I'd try the ballistix and reflash the bios once more...
If the problems are not solved that way, rma the board.
I've seen like 5 P5K vanillas and none of them act spooky like yours (all with E6400 an E6600 cpu's, I have to say)
btw, my board starts just fine with one stick...
Flashed the 0414 now, using AsusUpdate. Until now i had no problems anymore.. I hope it will work now and in the future! If not, i must RMA the board. ;)
Edit: OMG, again Bad Bios Checksum... xD
I made today a P5K OC Guide, if somebody has got problems with the P35's settings I hope It would helps much :)
(thx for the pictures to dinos :D)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5...ocguideln4.jpg
Excellent, Right Click > Save As
Good work :cool:
Good job Achill3uS, anyone can explain what is Voltage reference for?
Thank you guys :toast:
laziepig: dunno, I've tryd all of them, but core/dimm/nb voltages doesn't changed.. :rolleyes:
Anyone tested the new 507 bios ???
good work with the guide
i would use it if i was looking for the right settings myself
computer hardware is strange and sometimes works really different from one setup to another so if it doesn't work people should test their own setups to push for limits
i like to test all my hardware for limits so that i know where to draw the line when i'm benching :)
Good work :clap: :up:
My E6300 have a wall at 480fsb ( tested with DS4 )... Anyway I got no much time to oc this system... I just simply go through 479fsb and test with orthos both large n small for an hour. What week is your E6300?
And 1 more thing I set the Dram Static Read Control to Auto and the memory write got higher figure. Anyone can verified this? I don't understand why you have to disable it.
L631A904
Another note on the 507 bios, after going to that one i cannot now reflash to any older bios. tried with ezflash,afudos and awardflash utilities :confused:
also i notice the the original bios for the p5k is 202 (screenshots in this thread). earliest i can find is the 302. is that a cpuz bug or is it not availaable anymore.
I need photos of the BIOS with the E6300 using FSB of 500MHZ, mine with multiplier 6 it was stable but with 7 it is unstable.
basically that should tell you that your CPU needs more volts or better cooling if it is stable with 6x and not 7x
you should be able to use the same settings
Which vcore did you use in the E6300 with fsb 500MHZ?
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/2...r500mhzof9.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3878/imag1015ve1.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9493/imag1016ws6.jpg
that bios looks different to original
i see they added some nice options
you really need to be careful with strap change and also i would set voltages rather than leave auto......(all of them) just start from lowest value first and move up and test each setting until you see a difference and make a note so you know for later :)
in terms of vcore for the CPU well that really depends how good an overclocker your one is. My one needed around 1.33v for 3.5 and around 1.38v for 3.6Ghz prime
This is lasta update to Bios
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...5K/P5K0603.zip
Tomorrow I will be going to test vcore 1.35.
Thank You
you can't mimic my settings man
particularly not vcore
you chip may be better or poorer overclocker than mine so use as much as the chip requires under the given cooling used
i ned vmod to:( to the vcore but 528x7 is 100% ok
Hi,
just bought this mobo and Q6600 G0.
Everything works fine, but when I load Prime95 to test for stability (running at 3200 - 400x8 ou 355x9 1.425v bios 1.26v load cpu-z), cpu-z shows intermittent multi between 6x and the one I have set, as when cpu is idle and EIST (or whatever it's called) is on.
At cpu-z, voltage drops to 1.05v, at asus probe and speedfan, voltage raises to 1.29v.
Is cpu-z seeing the wrong speed? How can I see at what speed the cpu is in real time - any other good program?
Using latest bios, 2x1GB Teamgroup Elite 667, LC Power 550w green, Ninja rev b, Vista Ultimate 32.
Any thoughts?
cpu-z reports the correct speed, so I guess you forgot a setting in bios...
It reports the vcore wrong if you go over 1.4V (could be 1.45, dunno exactly).
That's not so important as the temperature of the Q6600 will rise fast over 1.4V with aircooling...
This only happens at full load, and C1E is disabled - at idle, cpu-z reports correct speed at 3200, at load it floats between 2xxx and 3200 (stays a few seconds in each). As something is forcing the cpu to lower it's speed...
Actual vcore (as reported by cpu-z) is very low, 1.26v (huge vdroop, didn't make mod yet). Temps in coretemp 0.95 are high 50's, in asus probe it's high 40's.
I may try today at lower speed and vcore, and maybe another psu.
If you guys have any tips...
You'd better try TAT, throttling still exists if temps are too high...
Good option, i'll try it as soon as i get home.
May also try rmclock and systool, to see what they report.
:) i got a Vanilla
E6700
Cellshock PC8000 cl4
BFG 8800GTS 320M oc bios mod :up:
After making some additional tests yesterday, I found that the cpu was indeed throttling, which is strange given than even with stock cooling people tend to get more than 3.2 ghz. Maybe the cooler is making bad contact with ihs, i'll have to check. Or the ninja is a bad cooler for quads...
After swapping the Noctua 1200 rpm with a TT 2400 rpm, it was fully stable with Prime95 (4 threads) even with lower vcore.
Some pics later.
i got watercooling on cpu/nb
http://hwt.dk/userdetails.aspx?UserID=53891
Ok, here are the pics:
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...dvdroopmod.jpg
This is at 3200, 355x9, 1.25v bios, 1.248v load, Ninja rev B with TT smartfan at 2400 rpm. Vdroop mod already made.
And the throttling pic:
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...throttle02.jpg
This is at 3200, 355x9, 1.425v bios, 1.272v load, Ninja rev B with Noctua 1200 rpm (no mod yet).
How do people with intel cooler manage to get greater speeds??
Pc specs:
Asus P5K vanilla (vdroop mod)
Q6600 G0
2x1GB Team Elite DDR667 (does 1000 5-5-5-15)
LC-Power 550w GP
Ninja Rev. B + Noctua 1200 rpm (also custom WC being rebuilt)
Bios settings are almost everything auto, except vcore@1.25v, multi@9, fsb@355, vdimm@2.1v, ram@4-4-4-12 DDR710.
Last night i tested my WC setup and at 3600, 1.4v, it seems to be stable at prime95, but throttles past a few minutes... Contact with IHS isn't optimal, there are spots where it doesn't make good contact. I need to lap the waterblock to try and get a more even contact.
PS: the board doesn't have a setting to control the throttling, so how do I know what's max temp before it throttles? Is it the cpu or the board that start lowering the multi?
I always use manaual settings whereever possible as auto defaults to lowest as a rule. I assume you have read this post on previous page http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=361 only use the auto settings he suggests and manually apply the other settings suggested in the print. Under CPU setting set CPU ratio to manual and set multiplier. Disable all others except PECI. Check qfan disabled under Hardware monitor. Increasing PLL to 1.6-1.7 , FSB =1.4 and MCH - 1.55 can greatly help stability in a lot of cases. What are your temps on the q6600 - if its like my E6850 you add 15c to the coretemp reading as the q6600 has a tjunction of 100c but core temp only shows it at 85c. I thought throttling only kicked in when it reached tjunction and you shouldn't be anywhere near that with water cooling (unless its boiling water -lol!) . This detailed thread on the subject may provide you with some answers.http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...ature-readings. Whilst I was googling around I also found this quad core overclocking guide which look fairly useful http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...ds-duals-guide -A lot of it you may already know if you have done a lot of o/c but it has some very good detail - note the point he makes on lapping both the CPU and the IHS for the quad. This site has a good lapping guide by Freecableguy http://www.thetechrepository.com/. Also read his new article on overclocking - very interesting and extremely informative. A bit technical but worth the effort as it nice to understand what you are doing when overclocking - and freecable guy really does know his stuff!
CPU controls throttling and its the C1E halt state in the bios I believe...I think they throttle at 75c or so but not sure...
holy cow brutha my quad core x3220 beats u in pi thank god i wow .1 got the asus p5k3. exact cept for the mem slots.First one was dead or i killled it whatever.only went up to 475X6.prolly the quad.Running 3.2 now with -44412at 2.4v everything else is auto but multy 8 and dram .Oh and nb at 1.55.3d06 says im running 3.6 lol pos i scored over 13 then it tells me im no good but last for my system ?are u guys really going thart high on 1 card?wright a how to please please please
Hi everyone,
I've fried one of my MOSFETS, can someone tell me the exact part name/number on their board because I can't find any info on the part used on my board (didn't even found the manufacturer).
The burned mosfet is pointed with red:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1188505188
Hey guys i got a question: My friend is getting a E6850 (g0) and is getting this board, which BIOS is the most stable and works for the g0?
Let me guess... he's entering an overclocking contest hosted by a Dutch hardware-website? I was thinking of getting that combo myself to enter that same contest. Looks like there are more people who are thinking the same things... ;)
Good luck to him!
BTW: Just out of curiosity: What cooling is he going to use? LN2, Phase Change, Water...?
Hey fellow P5K Deluxe owners. Got a question about my board. I got it 3 days ago. The first 2 days my system would power down completely when I shut down Windows. Now the system won't shut down completely. The fan and power light stay on all the time. Funny thing is everything else works perfectly. Does this mean my new board is defective?
The last time that happened to me on another MB it was the PSU starting to die . Have you got another one you can test with. Did you installed anything before this happened - if so uninstall and see what happens. If you are running winxp this may help http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php.
Learn was so gentle to help me via PM, though somehow my pictures didn't seem to be very clear, I'll upload another picture here if that's not a problem.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1188658973
EDIT: thx to Learn, seems like the component on his board is made by NIKO-SEM semiconductor, that's no where near the text that is printed on my board. Here is the datasheet if any cared :)
http://www.cheertech.com.tw/Niko-sem...5CPA102FDG.pdf
Beardyman, if you read this, I e-mailed my local dealer, he'll wheck component availability monday I guess.
I may buy the $134 vanilla version of this board.
i have the p5k vanilla, and a quick question, if setting the bios to 1.45v on cpu, i get 1.31v in idle, and under load with my q6600 and prime95 i drop to 1.22
i am wondering, i have 6 noctua 120mm fans all plugged directly into the motherboard, is this a drain on the mobos voltages? should i just get a molex to 3-pin adapter (as well as 3 3-pin splitters to run them all off one molex) and have them running directly off the power supply (corsair hx620)?
i just wonder at what point does one want to stop using the motherboards 3-pins and just power fans right off the powersupply with an adapter?
thanks so much as ive RMA'ed one board already and find the p5k vanilla a finicky board, especially with trying to run 4x1gb ballistix 8500 sticks....
hey terranaut go back to page 4 and do the pencil vdroop mod.
i just did it to my p5k and it works like a charm more stable vc than ever. Drop before pencil mod bios vc 1.525 probe idle vc 1.47 load vc 1.408
but now bios vc 1.4375 probe idle vc 1.41 load vc 1.400
Is there a difference between rev 1 & 2 boards? What bios u using? Im certain I have a rev 1 board but also a e2160 which is at fsb wall. edit: wrong thread.
hey dinos, can you help me? my q600 L727A673(same batch as yours) is running at 3.4Ghz with temps of 38-67C and is aircooled by a tuniq120. i'm using crucials 8500 for my rams. prime95 stable for 8 hours.
these are my settings...
Ratio CMOS Setting 9
FSB Strap To North Bridge(Mhz) 333
FSB Frequency 380
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Frequency AUTO ***
DRAM Command Rate AUTO
DRAM Timing Control Manual
CAS# Latency 5
RAS# To CAS# Delay 5
RAS# Precharge 5
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To RAS# Delay AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time AUTO
Write Recovery time AUTO
Write To Read Delay AUTO
Read To Precharge time AUTO
DRAM Static Control Disabled
Transaction Booster Enabled
Boost Level 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled
CPU Voltage 1.375 : pencil mod -1.376 CPUZ
CPU Voltage Reference 0.63x ***
CPU Voltage Damper AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage 1.8***
DRAM Voltage 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage 1.4***
North Bridge Voltage 1.4
North Bridge Voltage Reference 0.67x***
South Bridge Voltage 1.05***
I've marked the settings that confuse me, as i don't exactly know what they are for and what is optimal for my rig. please give me insight on thier purpose so i can oc better. as for the rams i intend to tighten them later.
the way i approach voltage is that i always run everything at stock unless required higher hence all these i would leave at lowest values and if some instability resulted from that i would start increasing these
DRAM frequency is ratio selection basically and you should not leave it at auto as you have no control over what speed your RAM will run at
for the record i don't know what the heck Voltage reference refers too either hehehe but it didn't seem to do anything for me
i would reduce PLL to lowest value as it may hurt the CPU if it overvolts past 1.9v for any reason. You will notice that benchers with ultra high FSB benchmarks jack up that voltage to 2.2 or 2.4 but there were some instances where the CPU FSB OCs reduced considerably after using past 1.95v there
BTW, thanks for taking time to reply to my query...
i increased the PLL setting from 1.4 to 1.6V my idle temps increased by 6-8C. so yes, i'm going as low as i can. but doesn't that control the fsb clockability? higher fsb requires higher PLL voltage???
How about FSB termination voltage? i'm more used to my former Gigabyte ds4 and new to asus. perhaps a different name for the same item...confusing...
so far my OC...
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...3400stable.jpg