oh ok my bad..lol dang i might have to try and get one. i was thinking of a Quad but its still not worth it for me and what i use it for...
i jus tread a article about the E8600... 6.0ghz on air......sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oh ok my bad..lol dang i might have to try and get one. i was thinking of a Quad but its still not worth it for me and what i use it for...
i jus tread a article about the E8600... 6.0ghz on air......sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could use some help here on overclocking my new E8400. I'm new to Intel overclocking because I was still playing with an obsolete AMD 4000+ series CPU.
As far as I understand VID is the standard voltage the chip will run on when at standard speed. I guess my chip's VID was 1.18V @ 3Ghz (Q817A240; pack date 4-6-2008).
I already searched the internet for some basic settings to start from. The following settings got me into Vista64 but when I start orthos it already gives errors after app. 10 seconds. Would pls take a look at my current settings and give some advise:
CPU ratio: 9.0
FSB: 450
FSB strap: 400
PCI-E: 100
DRAM freq.: 1800
Timings: 8-7-7-25-2T @ 1.98V (factory specs are 7-6-6-24-1T @ 1.9V)
CPU volt: 1.425V
FSB temination: 1.3V
NB volt: 1.45V
Temps. idle: 42 and 36 (measured with speedfan v4.34)
Everything else is on auto including, load line calibration, CPU spread spectrum and CPU PLL voltage.
In my opinion these settings are way to high as compared to other E8400 users here on the board. However lowering one of these settings results in BSOD or no POST. Thanks in advance for the advise which is much appreciated!!!!
I disagree. I need 5ghz and so do many people. For gaming the more mghz the better. Most high end SLI/Crossfire setups you cant use to fullest potential because of CPU bottleneck. I definitely want a 5ghz 24/7 machine. Not just to say i have a 5ghz, i want to run my games at 2560x1600 with the graphics as high as i can set them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
Man. At 2560 res it's not the CPU speed holding you back... trust me. Unless you're playing Quake3 that is :)
Q9GZ ES MALAY
80570PJ0876M
Q740A392
E8500
Any idea of air overclocking?
what means - degraded E8400?
:confused:
Does it mean i need more vcore for the oc that i have?
Is it possible that my ds3 965 rev.3.3 has more than 1.5v(locked for 965) pll?
Imagine i change my cpu cooler for a worst one and instead of heaving 60ºC i have 65 or 70ºC is it possible that i might have to give it more vcore to be stable?
New realeses of bios for the board my change that all?i think i flashed my board with a new one and now i need more vcore or is it degrading?i used 1.35v in bios and now i need 1.3750 i think.
up plz
Thats why its called XtremeSystems =pQuote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
so far from this q817 this passes orthos i let it run for nearly 2 hours passes prime i have not tried occt yet
this chips vid is 1.1875 in core temp and in the bios..
only thing is the ram strap i am running 333/800 im trying to run higher but have to work on keeping that stable it failed orthos after a couple min with a higher strap
edit thought i was getting lucky this time: for some reason this cpu will boot with 1.21xx vid in the bios but nothing more??? anything higher even one step i get a reboot then dies on me i have to clear cmos and start over?? any suggestions??
with this new chip at idle core 0 stays at around 45deg where core 1 drops to 29??? i put a razor on the heatsink and it appears almost perfectly flat could this simply be a bad sensor?? under full load they get to be about 5-6deg of each other?? i tried 2 different heat sinks with almost the same exact result a xig and true??? or bad chip/ heat spreader?? at idle there is literally 10-15deg difference between the cores??
any help would be appreciated thanks
edit this mobo is driving me nuts. if i set this oc in the bios and save and exit runs perfect passes everything... if i shut down and try to restart i get the damn c1 error and no boot i have to go back to the bios after doing a cmos clear then reset the oc settings and it boots to windows and passes anything i throw at it???
what the heck is that about?? chip seems like a really nice one though so far minus the temp issues with the sensor 0
I don't think that you really need 5GHz for 24/7. That will "damage" your CPU too because you need 1.6V+ for that so you need phase cooling for 24/7 than because there is no air cooler that can hold one CPU @ 5GHz @ 1.6V+ for 24/7 even if you tested stability and passed 1h.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Most Q740 do 4GHz with ~1.25VQuote:
Originally Posted by LagunaX
Some kind of that. If you go over 72.2°C on 45nm CPU there is big chance to degrede it. One you have degreded it it'll never (rarely do) be the same so you'll need little bit more boltage for do the same freq as you did before.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr.noob
yep ... why not get the fastest you can go?Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
as long are your not running at crazy high temps ... i mean its not like 5GHz is going to kill a CPU in a month ...
so i have temps arounf 73-74c underload i should back down my voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
i just took up my OC to 3.85ghz(428x9) from 3.6ghz im useing 1.325v i think it is
should i try lower voltage to get this OCi just took it to 1.325v i didnt try anything less. heres some shots of OCCT.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...10h20-CPU1.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...10h20-CPU2.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...0h20-VCore.png
it shows a little drop in vcore from what its set at. should i try a lower voltage?
is this to high?
Link please?Quote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
Quote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
Orthos reads the 45nm chips 10 degrees higher in temp, so you are really doing low-mid 60s. It is still bad, I didn't read much background on your setup, what cooling are you running with it?
AC freezer pro7, its there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
i backed the vcoe down to 1.275v wouldnt stay stable. bumped up to 1.300v and is fine right now. OCCT is running temps have hit 72c
How is the ambient temp in the room you have the PC? I see you're in OH, so that's US-East if I'm mistaken, which means outside temps are hitting about low 80s to low 90s this time of year. I would advise you to get a better air cooler, but without knowing your ambient temp I cannot say it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
Hey guys, in general do the e8500's clock better than the e8400's? I have the chance to pick one up (it's a Q740A476), but it has never been oc'ed on air, only on LN2 and DI in the 5200+ range.
My temp in the house right now is 79f and i have the coolermaster hyper tx2 cooler (lapped also)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103031
i think im gonna back it back down to 3.6ghz and be safe.
here is a link to the mobo that it did it on.. im trying to find the actual link to the other article.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138118
okay finally stable at this and will cold boot without issues.. arghh this mobo is making me pull my hair out: temps are just at or 1-2deg over 60.. with 1.28v on the cpu. i can go up to 4.2 on the cpu but temps were hitting just at or under 70 and i cant seem to get it prime or orthos stable.. this is after over an hour of orthos so im sure this will be fine.. id like to squeeze it a bit more though...and i do think i can lower the vid some more seeing as i was fully orthos stable at 1.26 but i was not using the special add vid feature on the dfi and it would not cold boot for me i had to reset the bios..but after that it went straight to windows and ran orthos for over 4 hours.. so im sure i can drop this a bit more.. ill play more later
Is it possibel that a 965 chip has more than 1.5v pll?
I´ve putted in bios 1.36vcore for 4000mhz when i bought it and now i only can do an orthos stress 1h with 3950mhz.I used it at that vcore 24/7.The only change i did was the new bios, from f13q(beta) to F13.
lol ... try to OC in texas :) ... its been 100 here the past week :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
:rofl:ya just like Arizona:ROTF:
cannot wait for the E8600's!! gona buy 10 right off or whatever the limit per customer is and find the golden one and sell the rest ;)
i really hope your kidding :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by philbrown23
That ambient temp is a bit high, so getting 61-64c on that cooler sounds about right. I have a hyper 212 [not installed] and to my opinion they aren't that great. You should look into getting a heavy duty air cooler, like a Thermalright.Quote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
yeah definately just kidding,lol. I'm gonna buy one early on though to get a good bad with a low VIDQuote:
Originally Posted by Copenhagen69
Nope, check again. It was on LN. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
Cincyrob has a Hyper TX2 heatsink fan which is greatly different from the Hyper 212. I did a built for someone & used the Hyper TX2 which was adequate since there was no overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
I have the Hyper 212 which cools my overclocked E8400 with low temps. When I do video encoding the temp will rise to 28c-32c. This is without the air conditioner running in my pc room. IMHO it's a great heatsink fan. :)
I'm in Honolulu, Hawaii with the temp today at 90 degrees F.;)
This is the Hyper TX2 hsf:
http://www.coolermaster.com/products...cate=1&id=2535
This is the Hyper 212 hsf:
http://www.coolermaster.com/products...cate=1&id=3096
those are damn good temps ... did you lap?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_budz
whats your vcore?
No I didn't lap the cpu or hsf. My vcore in mobo bios is 1.3125 & cpu-z shows 1.28. I do have 7 fans in my CM690 case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copenhagen69
The warm days finally came to Finland so now I had to up my vcore for stability. :P
Weint from 1.14v to 1.18 at 3807mhz just with an ambient temp increase of 6c. I thought I had a good E8400, but it was just the cool air it ran on. :D
cool air makes all the differance :D
finally got some time to run some orthos inbetween folding heres a screene
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2008...508039130T.jpg
still running as eye post
for you die hards 12 hour orthoes fans guess eyel let it run till time to wake up and put up another post for ya ;)
Decided to try lower volts and see how it goes. 4000 requires only 1.21v. 4300 @ 1.32v. Temps are still high as hell though. Swapped my TRU for a Xigmatek Red Scorpion HDT and got worse temps by 3-4C :( Do you think it's a bad mount or could this E8500 just be very hot?
On stock speeds, stock voltage it gets to around 51C. At the 4000mhz, 1.21v run it got to 54C. Anything after 1.28 and things really start getting toasty with this for some reason.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_4307.JPG
Vcore 1.2250v (Vdroop set to min. in Bios)
FPO#Q815A138
Stepping CO
Water cooling
Mother board GA-X48-DQ6 (F7bios)
Need more info ask.......:up:
voltages set to auto so far/fail in auto voltages @4.7 after entering splash screen/I don't run prime :down:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m...E840045Ghz.png
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m...E840045Ghz.png
Some really stability test? Orthos/Prime? And one more (and last time), TjMax temp for Wolfdale CPU's is 95°C!!1 So use Real Temp or change .ini file of Core Temp.
E8400 , Q816AXXX , VID 1.225 , fanless with ninja copper edition @ 3600mhz 1.25volts. temps max @ 65 , ambient 28 C
53C idle on water is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaggerwild
What ambient temperature?
ok here 12 hours or so of orthos
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2008...412339062T.jpg
HDCHOPPER, I see coolit eliminator $95 in your sig. Where can it be found that price? You bought this used maybe?
im down to 1.26 at 4.012 now still working on this dfi board.. temps are wacko on this e8500 they just go crazy up and down.. i can run orthos and it will under 100% go up to 64 then back to 45 then jump up and down all over the place?? seems to be just bad sensors on this one core 1 seems okay but does the same at times
testing at 4.1xx now with 1.29 so far it seems okay..
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_budz
yes this is the cooler i have in it now. but i did have the Arctic freezer 7 pro in it and i get the same temps. i beleive its my mobo that is effecting the temps
im running at 3.85ghz right now
in realtemp my idle temps on both cores are 43c which would be 53c in everest or coretemp...
that seems really high for idle?? my first chip showed 32 at idle for both cores. this new one shows 35 on core 1 and core 0 shows 48 at all times until core 1 hits around 55-60 then core 0 jumps up to about the same temp as core 1 does..at 60 on core 1 core 0 is within a couple deg up or down so im sure this chip has sensor issues 100% not sure if i should rma it again though since this one is 100% stable at 4.080 with only 1.268vid which is pretty good from what ive read. these chips are def wierd temp wise..
Out of interest, what settings have you been tweaking with in order to get your lower VCore stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
4307MHz @ 1.32v, 11 hours Prime95.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...11hrsPrime.JPG
not sure how much difference it made but my gtl are set at 65 but praz sais i should be able to leave then at the stock 110 but for me that would not run stable.. basically ive been stepping it down one notch at a time then running it to see if it was stable while also turning down the cpu vid and using the special add feature instead this seems to help a lot for stability instead of blastin it with higher voltage.. at least so far for me looks like 1.26 is as low as i can get it stable at 4.080 anything less i cant pass prime or orthos im now dropping the nb voltage and doing the same one step at a time to see what it really needs to be stable instead of just dumping like 1.4 or something on it.. trust me ive been pulling my hair out with this mobo in the beginning because i was simply trying to give it voltage and turning up the fsb and that was not working. this board is def a lot more picky it seems about every step i made compared to the abit and gigabyte i used to haveQuote:
Originally Posted by MrRevhead
now im going to start upping the fsb and a small bit of voltage at a time then start orthos see how long it runs if it fails ill step up the voltage one notch at a time.. long process yeah but imo i want this to be stable with the lowest voltage and temps possible im shooting for 4.1-4.3 overall which should be do-able if i can keep temps down with this chip at probably just over 1.3 or right around there im learning the brute force method doesnt work with this board lol i never tried to "finesse" a board before but this one needs it
i just wish i had a chip that reported temps right this one with them bouncing all over the place is a bit scary at times i saw it jump to like 80deg for about a half second then back to 62??? im looking at the socket temps as well as the average temp over time at 100% cpu from orthos and hoping that is somewhat correct.. core 0 bounces everywhere after 60deg, once i find a good stable point then im going to lap this one to see if i can keep that oc with lower temps.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
CoolIt sell em refurbushed for 95 bucks
normally eye woulnt buy anything refurb but in the case of equipment like this getting a 2nd QA to look at it and put the latest updated parts on them before going out it kinda hard to beat ;)
and it comes with the standard 1 year warr.:up:
im confused ... can you repeat that :) ... haha ... i may wanna buy one then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER
heres the link http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.p...art&Itemid=185
those are very impressive temps man ... im really going to have to look into this...
ya ita a perfect match for penryns & Arizona :D
that's an awesome chip :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
wow why is shipping so much ... does this thing weigh a ton?Quote:
Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER
$33 to ship to texas ...
what i tried this time failed orthos after just over 30 min though this shot was from when i first started it in case it froxe on me but ran for 30.xx min then failed with a rounding error.. im upping the vid now to 1.29 try again.. then 1.3 i dont want to go to much higher than maybe 1.32 or so though. this right now will do everything i encoded a dvd etc and it ran fine but i know its not prime/orthos stable at this point but seems to run everything ok, tried crysis etc everything ran perfectly..core 0 stays around 65-67 (not sure how right that is since it barely moves once it hits 60 it jumps to a spot and stays there till it drops like 5 or more deg) core 0 maxes it seems at about 64-65 and stays there
this q817 runs MUCH HOTTER than the q805 i had before.. but that chip at stock speeds would not pass orthos even with just standard ram..
It's because they ship from Canada.
is that the cooler you are using or are you on air right now?? i may have to grab one of those if they work that wellQuote:
Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER
whats you nb volts set to for that??Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
I'm using 1.5v but it's not really needed IMO. I bet it will work fine at that "lowish" FSB with even 1.35v but to lazy at the moment to test with it. I'll leave it priming again overnight with a lower NB voltage set.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
well for now this seems stable for me im going to bed and letting it run overnight then ill up the fsb some more tomm. once i get that stable im going to a lower multi and try to up the fsb more for the same overclock.. we'll see everyone complained about the q817's so far this seems like a really nice chip i know i can boot at 4.3 and do all tasks including encoding on air since ive tried that but it failed prime. i was also running 4.3 at 2.89 volts thoughso im thinking at 1.32-1.33 ill bet i can prime at 4.2 or maybe a bit more on air.. not bad right???
this is also without the ac running btw we have all the windows open right now since we just had a real nice rain the house is prob right at 80 or so id guess with a slight breeze. we normally keep the ac on 76..
nb for me right now is just at the mark under 1.39 (forget the exact number) but this q817 seems to just keep going now that i got it setup right.. its still priming while i type this.. ill check it tomm when i get up but if i can get to 4.3 or just under on good air ill be more than happy and maybe 4.1 24/7 (or better lol)
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Perfect match for the 8400 I picked up last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
so how do my results compare so far?? i have not totally followed this whole thread?? this a pretty decent chip so far?? i was thinking about trying another one but this seems like a nice chip to settle on for a 24/7 machine so far MAX temps ive seen just barely hit 72 for a second they are staying at or under 70 running orthos WHILE i tried encoding a dvd and it actually ran lol.. i was pretty shocked it ran.. not sure if the dvd will play though lol.. i restarted orthos though shown in my above result..
what would be the max vid for 24/7 recc for this e8500??? should i keep it at the 4.1 for every day use since it seems comfortable there or think i can go higher.. will i really see any difference between 4.1 and 4.3 for 24/7 use and games.. im not going to water or anything just a good cooler. im going to pick up another coolor though this xig has a issue with the base where the heatpipes are not totally tight enough if i try i can move the base and either sink in the heatpipes a bit or make them come out some i had to play with it to get it flat with the razor before re-seating it..
or would it more worth it to drop the cpu voltage back down to the 1.26 and run it at 4.017 24/7 it seems like a aweful big jump to go from the 1.26 up to 1.31 for only 100mhz???
Z your temps are a bit high ... but the OC is about AVG i would say on what everyone is getting without crazy good cooling ...
so its a decent chip then right?? worth hunting another one down?? with the e8500 down to 195 its tempting but i dont think i can do much more on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copenhagen69
is anyone around doing a lot more than this on air with the e8400 or e8500??
its still running orthos as i type and temps are still the same just under 70deg.. so its holding steady 100% with it mostly at 67 on core 0 and 64-65 on core 1 for most of the run so far
yeah i know i need a different cooler this 1283 has a issue with the base coming loose from the pipes. im gonna order something new anyway and i know for sure that will bring them down a bit.. this machine will never be under 100% for a long period of time anyway unless its running prime or something..
im sure it has more to go but im not sure another 100mhz is worth it.. ?? at the 4.1 its very comfortable or course better would be nice
eh thats about all you can get on air ... with decent temps ... i got my E8400 to 4GHz on 1.33v ... and my temps idle at 44c and load at 55c and thats as high as i want to see my temps ... thinking about WCing just to lower the temps
wow your max is 55c here i am hitting near 70c is that safe?? my temps dont go much lower at 4.0 maybe only 2-3c but not much more one thing i miss about the chip i had to send back.. idle read 32c ... that was sweet
only thing is core 0 always is almost 10c higher than core 1 at idle.. ive tried different heatsink and reseating it.. didnt help?? anyone else have this issue.
not running prime or orthos i max at about 56-58c when encoding a dvd with convertxtodvd and i see around 90+ uasage on core 0 and over 70 most of the time on core 1
im still running orthos at just a hair under 70c (65-69) does anyone think another e8400/8500 would be worth a try or would i not really gain anything on air over this one??
how did you get realtemp 2.69? i thought the latest was 2.6?
maybe thats why if its a beta?
Don't worry about your temps. Mine are the same... 1.32v and 72C under Prime95 small FFT's. I remounted the HS 2 times and used a TRU before getting this Xigmatek. Same temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
We just have hot running CPU's or the it's our DFI, altough i don't think so.
man your temps are still way better than mine are you were at 4300 with 72c correct.. im seeing that with only 4100 this chip is crazy hot. even at stock speeds im seeing near 60c+ w/ 100% cpuQuote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
yeah i mean i can do 1.26v STABLE orthos and prime both pass at 4.017 and its only maybe 3c cooler than this at 1.31v with 4.1 anything over that 4.017 and i need 1.28 then once i hit 4.1 i need 1.31 i have not tried 1.3 yet though.. i just think either sensor problem or its way to hot of a chip
for it to do 1.26 @ 4.0 seems like a pretty good chip to me minus the temps. tomm once orthos runs all night im gonna see what is needed for 4.2+ i was able to run 4.2 with only 1.32x v but didnt test it for stability but the temps didnt seem to go up at all with the extra voltage..
just sucks my last chip idled at 32c this one is like 43-44c at idle
ariciu you are doing 4500 @ 1.39 with the xigmatek??? and your temps are 72c?? im at 4100 with basically the same temps??
i could prob cook eggs on my ati 4850's... lol they literally almost burn your fingers if you touch them and my cpu heatsink under load is barely warm to the touch the base by the heatpipes is a bit warm but no where near what 70c should feel like when you touch it.. its just a bit warmer than maybe room temperature??
Yes, that's beta. You have 2.69.5 already out. Subscribe on Uncle's thread and you'll get every information you need about temps and Real Temp ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Copenhagen69
Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
No. 4500Mhz was with my old TRU. It was reaching around 74-77C per core and could only do OCCT for like 20 mins max. Then it would error because of the too high temps. With the Xigmatek i get only 5 minutes of OCCT at 4500Mhz because it jumps right up to 77C.
Mine does 4000 with only 1.21v and it gets to around 55C per core. At stock voltage (1.19) and stock MHZ i get around 51C per core. This is using Prime95 by the way.
After 1.3v mine also jumps in the 70-73C area. I don't think 4100mhz vs 4300mhz would cause that. We are both running about the same voltage (1.32v) and getting the same temps so i don't think my extra 200Mhz means i should be getting a higher temp then you are, at the same voltage.
Same here. The Xigmatek's and TRU's heatpipes were barely worm to the touch. Nothing like what 70C should feel like. My 4870 burns compared to those. I think that's normal though... i did like 3 mounts already so it's definately not a bad mount here.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
What is your VID by the way? Mine is 1.1875v.
same here 1.1875v i just added a second fan to the 1283 ill see how that helps i also just mounted a fan to the backside of the cpu socket on my case..
How did you get another fan on the Xigmatek? Any pictures? Lemme know if it improves temps plz.
yep 3-4c so far.. not great but not bad. i used a yate loon and a rigged mount for now. im going to make some wire mounts today to fit in the sinks holes on top.. not bad im steady at 67c now for orthos.. ill see when i get up how it is then..idle temps are now 39c instead of 45c+ though and core 0 has actually moved below 49.. lol
Did you mount the second fan to pull or push? 4C is a great result!
Quote:
Just did my first overclock ever. It was really fun.
I am stable with my q807a067 e8500 at 510fsb/4330Mhz. Vcore= 1.26
Passed 1 hour of occt.
Beginners luck I guess
I got this speeds with a thermalright ultra-120 and 2 x Noctua NF-P12-1300 in push/pull configuration. Antec 1200 (all fans on maximum).
Temperatures Everst: Idle: 28c-31c OCCT: 58c-62c Room: 23c
I too noticed a big difference in temps between two E8400 chips. The bad Q817 one was cool but didn't like to overclock, did 1.3xvcore with load temps around 55c. The better overclocking Q815 gets to 60C on 1.18vcore.
I've checked and remounted my Xigmatec 1284 a couple times now, still the same difference.
Another thing I noticed was a big difference in vDroop, though Load line calibration on the P5Q nullifies it with both chips. The vDroop on the Q815 is alot higher.
Yup. My previous Q817 E8400 (bad ocer) had like 15C lower temps then this E8500. Even when pushed at 1.42v it still had like 65C full load. I don't even want to imagine what this E8500 would get at 1.42v. I think around 80C-85C.Quote:
Originally Posted by janolle
Zipties FTW! :cool:
Fans are setup Push/Pull. 3C average drop (from 72C to 69C) but, my maximum temp while priming for 11 hours with only one fan reached as high as 79C (pic is above in this thread, realtemp Maximum temperature). Now it won't go over 70C so i'm happy with the improvements. :)
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...ziptiesftw.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101..._push_pull.JPG
Hmm. This is weird. Check the VID reported by CoreTemp 0.99 compared to the ones of CoreTemp 0.99.1 and Real Temp.
1.0750v VID would explain the high temperatures i'm getting with 1.32v. 1.32v on 1.0750 VID is like running ~1.45v on a regular 1.1875-1.2v VID E8500. You might want to check your VID with 0.99 also zfactor ;)
CoreTemp 0.99:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...temp099vid.JPG
CoreTemp 0.99.1:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...emp0991vid.JPG
I am having a (I think) stability problem that is different from what I have seen in the past.
It has happened at OCs of 4.0, 4.2, and 4.4 ghz with my E8500. At all three OCs I have tested OCCT and Everest stable but my machine will then, at some point, shut down and reboot at random times. It happens under load and idle.
Is this an artifact of high FSB settings? I never had this happen with my Q6700 at FSB of 360 and 380 whereas I am now using FSB of 424-464. Or is this a hardware issue? I have used three different motherboards with similar results (P5K deluxe, P5Q premium, and now Maximus II Formula. Other components as listed in sig.
Enlightenment please.
Try running Memtest for Windows, or regular memtest and your current OC'ed settings and see if the memory throws any errors. Altough OCCT should catch memory errors pretty quickly. That FSB is not high by the way, it's ok.
If memtest throws no errors then you could maybe try to increase the NB voltage a bit and see if it helps.
but i thought that 99.1 was much more accurate with 45nm chips?? but yeah with version .99 mine reads 1.075 also..what worries me is my core 0 temps, at idle they are most of the time near 50c... usually 5-10deg higher than core 1
how did you get the xig mounted that way i cant mount it anyway but facing upwards id much rather face it out the back though. did you cut the nb sink or the 1283 at all?? mine will not site that way without sitting on top of the nb heatsink then it cant be tightened downQuote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
It sits right above the NB heatsink and i could tighten it no problems using the my old thermalright bolt-thru kit. I didn't cut anything. How did you mount yours anyway? Pushpins or what did you use?
Asking because apparently, the thermalright boltthru kit produces bad temps because the heatsink is not making proper contact with the CPU. Check here -> http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/user-...pu-cooler.html
i used the xigmatek bolt through kit they sent me for it wow then i dont get it mine will literally sit over the end of the nb heatsink.. mine is blowing upwards but i have another fan right above it so there is the nb fan, heatsink fan, heatsink, another heatsink fan, then case fan maybe 1.4" over the second heatsink fan. you have the red scorpion i wonder if there is a size difference between them i have the regular one
think that would lower my temps any???
Thanks for the response. Memtest is clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
I will try a bit more NB.
I wonder if it could be a failling GPU??
Mine sits above the NB heatsink also. I could screw it in though. I think the difference lies in the mounting kits since you use Xigmatek's.
do you think id have better temps that way ?? maybe i can trim off a bit off the xig i hate to trim the nb in case i need to warranty it
You would definately have better temps with the heatsink mounted like i'm using it. I remember having my TRU mounted facing upwards and it sucked bad. Fan pushed air coming from the hot NB heatsink. What happens if you try to use force when you screw it in? The lower fin should bend a little and rest above the NB sink... it's not like it's made out of steel.
yeah im thinking maybe ill bend the whole side in a slightly upwards fashion so all of the are still lined up just facing up some... im gonna try it now
I wonder if it has something to do with the low vid chips being able to draw more juice with a smaller vcore setting. That would mean reaching a larger watt/vcore rating thus heating it more. Someone who knows better will probably call me silly, but it fits my logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
Yeah, of course. My 1.075 VID e8500 can run at stock freq. using 1.075v. That around 0.1v less then what an older ~1.18-1.2 VID e8500 runs at. So using 1.32v on this low VID chip is the same as using ~1.45v on an older, high vid, wolfdale. That surely explains the higher temperatures.
WOWOWOWOWOW by mounting the 1283 sideways i dropped almost 10c on load and down to 36-37 idle but core 0 still read 10c higher at idle and about 5c higher under load this way my temps now are right at 60-62 with orthos running and typing this... (core o still higher lol) and this is without the second fan yet. only problem is i had to pull my nb fan off as it does not fit between the 1283 and the nb sink now.. so that sucks. ill look for a really skinny one i can stuff in there..
what about the xig putting pressure on the nb sink though will this make the nb sink not sit flush now??
orthos now run 0 still test 8 still 64/61 temp wise adding second fan later when i pick up some bendable spring wire.
the way im doing it is that the xig has 2 small holes in the fins towards the middle if you look. these are on the top and bottom im going to make 2 metal brackets like the one that come with the nb sink. they sell a "spring" wire if you can find it where you are. im going to put 4 small rubber washers on the fan with double sided tape so it does sit on the metal fins then slide over the metal clips im going to make similar to the nb sink
also once my temps hit 64 or 65 they are the same on both cores. so should i ignore the 10c higher reading at idle of core 1?? if so this is a great chip. i rebooted and running at 4.2 w/ 1.32x v now on pass 0 test 10 so far and its still stable so im crossing my fingers
ill post pics if this passes im not sure it will but i can cross my fingers lol temps did not go up at all from 1.31 under load they are still within 1c of before it just sits steady at 65c now excpet in between the tests then it drops a bit and back up to 64/65c on both cores at 4.2.. nice
im also running with c1e enabled.. not sure how big of a different this makes or not
so which do i believe core temp .99 or 99.1, .99 says my vid is 1.075 and core temp .99.1 says 1.1875???
Nice improvements man. So my bad temps are caused by using the Thermalright bolt thru kit. I will have to file those four little things so the damn things makes contact properly. 10C drop here i come :D
You are using this:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/xig.jpg
I am using this. So heatsink is not making proper contact with the CPU because of those damn things.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_tr.jpg
well for some reason temps have settled out higher. i turned off orthos for now to check idle temps and they are now resting at 5c higher than they were before at idle??? i dont like this cooler imo
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Originally Posted by AriciU
mine has those nubs to they come through the board also on mine should i shave them off?? they are just not so high on the xig bolt through.. .
still a 5c drop overall is not to bad idle and load.. looks like thats what its settled on.. maybe ill try better tim tomm running as5 now. i have mx2, shin and diamong here but i tried them all and the as5 gave me the best reported results but that was with the sink the other way. all the rest showed higher temps than the as5 did by at least 1c or more with the mx2 believe it or not almost 3-4c higher yesterday than the as5 was
Load temps are all that count man. Of course you first got lower temps at idle... you just turned on the PC, CPU was cool. Then you loaded it up and of course it couldn't drop to the same temp anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor