New rumor about ATI Southern Islands

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10-06-2010, 09:00 PM
onethreehill

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Originally Posted by Shtal

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...1&d=1283268452

Based from this info Vantage X12092 score could be true.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=2669
10-06-2010, 09:00 PM
hurleybird

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Originally Posted by Particle

I don't understand why people are so mislead about VRAM.

Well,

-I run 3x1920x1200 in eyefinity.
-I'm also an ex-8800GTS 320 user. Heh.
-1GB is already starting to show some weakness at 2560x1200+ with AA. How is 1GB going to look a year from now? 2 years?
-Rage engine can use as much texture memory as you feed it.
10-06-2010, 09:02 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

2560 x 1600 or higher resolution demographic ...

Hmm ....

dont need 2560x1600 or higher actually, just need to change settings in the game engine to make use of the increased VRAM.

hint: most games dont by default
10-06-2010, 09:24 PM
HelixPC

Nice, im excited for this GPU.
10-06-2010, 09:28 PM
kuroikenshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=2669

what are the usual marks for a ref 5870?
10-06-2010, 09:45 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

what are the usual marks for a ref 5870?

~x8000

5970 = ~x12000
10-06-2010, 10:16 PM
CedricFP

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Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

specially when there was no 5890...:down:

Haha I meant 5970, was stuck in the 48xx mode of thinking.
10-06-2010, 10:19 PM
Sn0wm@n

so much wrong thinking in this thread ... can wait for official everything ....
10-07-2010, 01:51 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by Frontl1ne

So yes, if you want to run 5760x1080 with 8xAA then 2GB will be worth it for you.

So it's not useless.
Plus if you read the second article you will see that games such as AvP, Metro, Stalker, Crysis and Napoleon: Total War can easily consume around 1.5GB of VRAM at 2560x1600. With just 4xAA.
Hell, throw GTA in there at any resolution. And Oblivion with extra mods.
And what about the stuff that might come out in a month? 6 months?
10-07-2010, 02:02 AM
flopper

Pressmeeting 14okt.
21/22oct for cards.

http://www.sweclockers.com

xt has 1120 shaders and 900mhz core.

Radeon HD 6850 Radeon HD 6870
Kodnamn Barts Pro Barts XT
Teknik 40 nm 40 nm
Streamprocessorer 800 st. 960/1 120 st. (?)
GPU-frekvens 775 MHz 900 MHz
Minnesfrekvens 4 000 MHz 4 200 MHz
Minnesbuss 256-bit 256-bit
Minnesmängd 1 GB GDDR5 1 GB GDDR5
10-07-2010, 02:50 AM
spursindonesia

so much conflicting, unreasonable leaks, rumors, darn. 960 SPs Bart, the emergence of multi clock domain in ATi's GPU mArch ? LOL. :rofl:
10-07-2010, 05:43 AM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

dont need 2560x1600 or higher actually, just need to change settings in the game engine to make use of the increased VRAM.

hint: most games dont by default

Are we talking about console options? Because in the world of console ports, somehow I don't believe it.
10-07-2010, 10:26 AM
Particle

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurleybird

Well,

-I run 3x1920x1200 in eyefinity.
-I'm also an ex-8800GTS 320 user. Heh.
-1GB is already starting to show some weakness at 2560x1200+ with AA. How is 1GB going to look a year from now? 2 years?
-Rage engine can use as much texture memory as you feed it.

If you read my post and came away with the theme being "1GB is enough" then you did not at all understand me. I wanted 2GB cards last year. I'd love to see 8GB on a GPU, but it's of course impractical at the moment.
10-07-2010, 01:10 PM
Chumbucket843

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

Are we talking about console options? Because in the world of console ports, somehow I don't believe it.

many techniques to enhance image quality of console ports are brute force and will take up a substantial amount of memory. this could be done by higher resolutions, AA, or changing LOD settings although it might not be a full 2GB for certain games. maybe this is a little off topic but i would expect future game engines to focus on scalability. megatextures in idtech will be able to use main and video memory effectively even with consoles as the main target. tessellation and voxels have also been used for scalability and are a big focus of next gen games.

one of the major points for more VRAM i must make is that if no 4GB card ever comes to market then no software would ever use 4GB of VRAM. the hardware must come first.
10-07-2010, 07:10 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

Pressmeeting 14okt.
21/22oct for cards.

http://www.sweclockers.com

xt has 1120 shaders and 900mhz core.

Radeon HD 6850 Radeon HD 6870
Kodnamn Barts Pro Barts XT
Teknik 40 nm 40 nm
Streamprocessorer 800 st. 960/1 120 st. (?)
GPU-frekvens 775 MHz 900 MHz
Minnesfrekvens 4 000 MHz 4 200 MHz
Minnesbuss 256-bit 256-bit
Minnesmängd 1 GB GDDR5 1 GB GDDR5

A bit closer than past "leaks" but still not there.
10-07-2010, 08:33 PM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

many techniques to enhance image quality of console ports are brute force and will take up a substantial amount of memory. this could be done by higher resolutions, AA, or changing LOD settings although it might not be a full 2GB for certain games. maybe this is a little off topic but i would expect future game engines to focus on scalability. megatextures in idtech will be able to use main and video memory effectively even with consoles as the main target. tessellation and voxels have also been used for scalability and are a big focus of next gen games.

one of the major points for more VRAM i must make is that if no 4GB card ever comes to market then no software would ever use 4GB of VRAM. the hardware must come first.

I mean in the most popular game engines for PC there's no setting for the engine that explicitly tells it how much VRAM to use. Bumping up AA / AF levels is more likely to be core dependent if you have 1 gb.
10-07-2010, 09:08 PM
Sn0wm@n

that 1120 shader rumor doesnt sound right at all ... even with improved efficiency i dont see that card taking a stand against 480gtx's let alone what nvidia will get out as the 500 series in 2011 ....
10-07-2010, 09:14 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

that 1120 shader rumor doesnt sound right at all ... even with improved efficiency i dont see that card taking a stand against 480gtx's let alone what nvidia will get out as the 500 series in 2011 ....

That's because AMD decided to rename the card that should be a 6770 to be a 6870, and the 6970's will be the high end single GPU... or at least, that's what the current rumor is. If that Cayman photo is correct, then ~X12000 puts it at 5970 levels for a single GPU :eek:
10-07-2010, 09:24 PM
Sn0wm@n

single gpu that performs like a dual gpu 5970 ... nice :D ... pretty please make those 6970 rumors be true
10-07-2010, 09:33 PM
onethreehill

Interesting info
http://www.chiphell.com/thread-128230-1-1.html
10-07-2010, 09:35 PM
Sn0wm@n

amd eyespeed ????
10-07-2010, 10:14 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

I mean in the most popular game engines for PC there's no setting for the engine that explicitly tells it how much VRAM to use. Bumping up AA / AF levels is more likely to be core dependent if you have 1 gb.

Actually there are in some.

Crysis is one, for example. I think there's a thread in the nV section by Carfax with the options listed.

Cant say i've ever seen anyone toy with the settings and do testing though.
10-07-2010, 10:16 PM
sutyi

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Interesting info
http://www.chiphell.com/thread-128230-1-1.html

This was out in english a while ago - link
10-07-2010, 10:24 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutyi

This was out in english a while ago - link

Look carefully, there are some new info :D
10-07-2010, 10:36 PM
sutyi

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Look carefully, there are some new info :D

Well yeah... scrolling down all the way seems to help. :up: :D

http://vgacentral.files.wordpress.co...on_hd_6870.jpg

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