Just wondering if there are any QX9650 owners out there who are willing to share their detailed 4 Ghz + settings. I'm slowly creaping it up (@3.5 ghz now with 1.2 volts bios, 1.192 V showing in CPU-Z 10X Multi, everything else on Auto) Memory at 1123 Mhz with 5 5 5 18 2T. The Rampage bios is quite different and a bit daunting. 4 Ghz is my dream target on air. Any suggestions or setting would be greatly appreciated.
yeah I only used the /n switch....I'll reflash with the other switches tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maglin
Thanks
:welcome: NP man. I figured that was what you did.
Gurusan:
How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?
You got me want to check my mobo ID under Everest CPUID.
Under Everest Mobo info, it does states I've a Rampage formula though.
Also 1.44.1 CPUZ also reports I've a Rampage formula.
But I'd like to double check on that from Everest's CPUID
If anyone knows how to do that, pls let me know.
Here is a screenshot:
As you can see, prime smallfft stable isn't a problem at 475*8, 333 strap, 1140mhz DDRII. But prime blend is still hell of hard to get stable....and same problem with OCCT using MIX...
Stability is a bit better than MF bioses and very rare occassion you get a DET RAM hang unless your system is really unstable due to undervolting on the NB or else where you'd need to find out.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...u/Capture2.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.52500
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
tools >>> everest cpuid?Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
or
alt+t then c (just c no alt)
i dont have the same version but i imagine its the same?:shrug:
my everest is v4.20.1285 Beta
it works perfectly
Thanks for your help but I meant how to get rid of the trial version limitation so I can view the restricted optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
:)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...u/Capture3.jpg
this day in-age, i would have assumed everyone had heard of bittorrent before;Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
guess not! :rolleyes:
(note: i paid for mine)
purchase a paid license for it !Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
hey guys, still new to all this overclocking. i have my q6600 at 3.2 and my ballistix tracer 1066 ram running at 800 mhz using these settings
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : set = 1.36 actual = 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : auto, actual = 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : set = 1.49 actual = 1.48
DRAM Voltage : set = 2.08 actual 2.128
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.424
South Bridge Voltage : 1.056
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 1.072
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.504
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
ive tried lowering my vcore and NB volt as much as i can but when i go any lower prime95 gives me blue screens in vista 32 bit or i get blue screens while prime95 is going and im looking at websites. any suggestions on what else i can do? i know this board is more capable. also i have my ram at 800 and low volt for fear of killing it, though its double sided so maybe it not effected by this problem? thanks
o i forgot, bios is still 0907, still dont want to update to 1003 or 1004, should i go ahead and try?
Hi! Who knows where does CPU PLL Voltage and SB voltage measure pionts situated?
Here are some measures and overvoltages by mobo idle/burn. (LoadLine Calibration Enabled)
I want to control Vpll and Vsb by DMM too.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/440...mfmonittt2.png
Along w/ NOD32, I really need to buy this. The beta's don't time out, but it would be nice to see everything.
Thank you everyone for this great thread putting my Maximus rock solid stable now, say goodbye to DET DRAM.
I had several weeks of frustration this board getting hang DET DRAM.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Untitled-8.jpg
What I wonder is how many people exactly had problems with Windows after doing this mod? I mean people who didn't do a full reinstall? I'm trying around with the 505 BIOS now but my experiences are not much different from 907, except that with 505 the box isn't booting at FBS 450 no matter what I do. I noticed ripple on 12v, maybe thats my problem..
here is my current settings and complaints before the bios change, please refrain from any comments on bad settings, I want to see if my current knowledge and the new rampage bios proves to make things better:)
Im currently still using the MF907 beta bios (most of the MF bios' appear to be beta :rolleyes: )
I hate this board with a vengence, i went from a DFI expert to this, problem is i expected things to go just as smoothly as the DFI board, my mistake :)
currently my mobo is only stable when O/C'd and with the two different types of ram, which is confusing to me but meh.
currently room temp is warm, about 28-30c (estimate), mobo temp is 38c, cpu idle is 45c, cpu load is 65c. all according to Speedfan, coretemp shows idle as 42,39,33,32c so all is normalish.
I use every fan port possible with success in viarable fan speeds.
I've only had this mobo since mid December, played with it for a month and found it likes all the ram modules, remove either kit and the o/c drops :confused: drop the multi and the FSB wont go up without alot of voltages.
in reality, this is probably due to the amount of HDD's, heat and the ram along with my noobness. but i tried many things and just cant get over 400FSB with the current setup and bios.
I also cant restart the computer without hitting the reset switch. it will shut down and restart but on OS hand over, it just has a blank screens, hit the reset switch and when the OS sarts, it ask if i want to boot into safe mode. only ever happens when i restart from OS, restart from bios is fine. could be a raid 0 bug.
occasionally the system will hang at the bios post screen, so i uploaded a pic i like to look at just to ease the pain, then hit the reset switch.
with probe 2 installed, i get a bios warning stsating the SB is too hot, this can be from cold boot
currently rock solid stable and here are the settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1007
DRAM Command Rate : T2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A
CPU Voltage : 1.1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : E
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
I shall now hunt down the everest download (page 2 i think) and post some scores. anything else people want before i move to the rampage bios?
I suppose i cant say i hate this mobo, it is a challenge to get stable but atleast it's easir to work with than the gigabyte DQ6 or so I've heard.:rolleyes:
Before i do spam the thread with everst and temp pics, along with 3Dmark scores, I'll make a dual boot of XP, then i will use the same OS with the new bios, just to keep things constant.
So it will take a few days, thought some people waiting for results may wish to know :)
hello everyone. find here my results and settings. this is coming from memory mind you. i would go home later tonight and double confirm the values.
Code:Current Bios Version Used is 0907 with XP SP2.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
cyrixMII300, i would be very careful with all those voltages you have set to "AUTO", this board overvolts alot of them. So if I were you I would start sorting out the voltages your board/cpu really needs while keeping a close watch to them via BIOS monitoring, Everest, whatnot so you don't kill your hardware. For example, what are your current vDIMM volts?
And btw, look at your load temps, over 15°C between the core pairs, you will have to reseat your HSF.
If you find the Maximus hard to setup the bios, I would recommend not moving to the Rampage untill you learn the MF settings
Thanks for the heads up mate. Actually i was planning on nailing down the volts of the entire system sometime this weekend (provided my wife doesnt get on my case that is).Quote:
Originally Posted by p2501
As for the temps of the CPU. this is something that has been bugging me too. Unfortunately I just got to Rome and dont have a clue of where to get some good thermal paste which I need to have before proceeding with my plans to lap the Thermalright. Have to get to that one also ASAP.
Thanks again.
I notice you're a Q6600 user, keep an eye on the number of cores reported in the BIOS. I just reflashed 0219 and it reported 4. After tweaking, I noticed later it reports 2 cores. I know I can't be the only 1. I am curious what setting is making this happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazda_626
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=593
ftp asus need a password?? :eek:
Try again: ftp://ftp.asus.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
I had exactly the same issue when pushing an FSB above 455 with a Q6600 G0. Basically down to a couple of cores (0 & 1) dropping off the FSB due to not having the flexibility to alter the GTL. I'm hoping that I'll now be able to push further with the added setting in the 219 BIOS.
On a side note, when I was able to post with just 2 cores I could run Orthos etc quite stabilty on them. I guess its down to the CPU being 2 C2D's stuck together & there being a difference in the quality of the chips.
I've had no problems with Windows so far. I still plan to do a full re-install in the near future because it's been messy with my vid card drivers and some other crap, as well as numerous crashes and BSODs from overclocking in the last little while.Quote:
Originally Posted by p2501
It's such a huge PITA to do, but once it's done and clean, then I can do a more orderly installation of programs and hopefully improve the performance, which has been slowing down lately.
I'm still working on mine. Got stable so far at 4.0 GHz with 9.5 x 421 (or 10x400) on ~1.40 - 1.41v (still testing this)Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat GriZ
My ultimate goal is to get that to 10x420ish for 4.2+ GHz and 1100 MHz+ RAM 24/7
I'll see if I can post my (so far) stable 4.0 when I get home today.
As for having to reinstall Windows after modding to the Rampage BIOS I had no issues at all, either with Vista Ultimate or XP Home
Me 2, coming from a P5E! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GlowingBulb
I had only to validate again my copy of Vista business. Luckly everything was done online by a click and a waiting of a couple of seconds.
No issues with Vista x64 Ultimate. Didn't even have to re-activate which was nice.
does the rampage bios update solve the DET DRAM issue?
I'm having slight problems with my Q6600 G0.
I can't seem to get it stable'ish uness I'm pushing 1.5v core. Is there any other values I could adjust to lower the vcore requirements?
I tried running a marathon Prime95, it failed after about 14 hours. Under load the Core MAX temp is 69/69/66/66, on average the temps are 64/64/61/61. I think I have a pretty good seating, only 3c variance between the two cores.
Compared to my old setup with 3.0GHz @ 1.4v my temps were 55/55/51/51 looks like things got a lot worse :(
I'm using 0907 on Windows Vista 64.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.5
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
DET DRAM Issues most occure when tight spd has been programmed or from wrong user overclocking issues.
If your system boots just fine with default settings then you overclocking settings has to do with DET DRAM
I fixed my DET DRAM issue by setting DRAM Static Read Control to disabled. Auto/Enabled would give me problems even @ stock speeds for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by dc2
I know what your saying there, but only the BIOS is missing the other 2 cores. CPU-Z sees it, Everest and Windows sees all 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlowingBulb
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood what you meant then... In my case (using 907 BIOS I think) it was the BIOS, CPUz & anything else you care to mention that couldnt see cores 0 & 1.
I'm at a loss with your problem there bud.
Tried my ballistix in the white slots today, then seems to work better there. Got some hangs today in the blue slots. Will try to push memorys higher later
I didn't read all 33 pages, but did flashing the Maximus to the Rampage allow for a higher FSB overclock? If so, what are people now maxing out at?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost_recon88
Yes, and read the last couple of pages, since pictures > words :D
Personally I'm able to push my FSB upto about 480 now (not 24/7 stable, but benchmark/game stable for hours), 450 @ 24/7 which is up from the 410-425 I used to get.
What voltage are you set in bios ?? I have to set my vdimms at v2.20, set lower cause hang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
Now find me a way to turn my P5e3 dLX into p5e3 premium
just loaded rampage bios :D will post later how good or bad it is
ive found this board overvolts the vDIMM by about .08v ...just thought you should know.Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
I'm gonna RAMPAGE this weekend !!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!
just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...aximus_Formula
whats the deal ?
yes, but I can't set it lower than v2.20, anything lower cause hang DET DRAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
you and me both!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sources
We have this though.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ericab
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...imus%20Formula
1004 beta is out also at site
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...%20Formula
If it's available on their site, wouldn't that mean it's not a "beta" anymore? At least according to them.
EDIT: Oops, I see they even list it as a beta on their site. Sorry :D
does the 1004 bios allow for tRFC up to 52? if so, im thinking going this route first before the rampage mod. Anyone have results with the 1004 bios while using 8GB of ram?
yes 1004 has alot higher trfc optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Anyone notice the rampage 219 bios no longer showing how many core during the boot up. It show speed of your proccessor only.
FTP works for meQuote:
Originally Posted by ericab
just installed the 1004 bios, and still the damn ram dividers are broken. The only usable divider (FOR ME) is the 400 strap. So unless its my ballistix are the divider issue, the only hope I have for my 8gb's of G.skill PC8500 that is coming tomorrow is DDR1135. Damn, wish me some luck here guys. At least this bios allows tRFC up to like 150 or something, my other bios 903, would only allow for up to 42. SO I had to flash to this bios for my g.skill ram coming as I keep seeing that ram needs tRFC @ 52 minimum.....
1:1 and 5:6 were all I ran but they did work on both 400 and 333 strap.
I have had 266 strap 1:1 but didnt like the bandwidth
The Rampage 0219 BIOS is a lot lot better in terms of dividers and performance levels. You won't do 1200MHz RAM on the Formula (whatever BIOS) with TB/AIB enabled and > Moderate but hop onto the Rampage conversion using BIOS 0219 and 1200MHz is not only possible but with TB/AIB enabled to Strong/Moderate with a PL of 5 or 6. Gets you 9500MB/sec read bandwidth in Everest on a 9x400 setup and latency of around 52.4ns (5-5-5-15).
Now if anyone is willing to take the VDDR up then 4-4-4-12 at 1200MHz is also possible for some sub 50ns RAM access times.
Couple the above at say 10x400 using a QX9650 (newer C1 steppings are shipping SLAWN spec, not yet listed on Intel site) for 4GHz and seems to me this is heaven until Nahelm comes along.
For whatever reason the Formula BIOS is just worse than the Rampage, not to mention it has less options.
After numerous failed OC attempts today I have to say that no, it showed all 4 cores for me everytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
I;ll do the rampage right now, but I dont understand how to flash to that using the instructions that guy posted in his thread. Is there a more simplier way of doing it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
The Rampage BIOS seems a little better with my Q6600 but still getting that issue with cores 0 & 1 not showing when I push the FSB higher than 460.
On a positive note, I've been able to shave a couple of points of both my FSB & NB voltage needed.
Come the weekend & some spare time I'll spend some time seeing how much I can fettle the settings to improve things.
Hey guys, I'm on an E6750 and looking to go for 4ghz. I'm using 1200mhz rated RAM - would I be better flashing it to a rampage or sticking to a go stable maximus BIOS? Also, could someone share working BIOS settings for helping me reach 4GHZ? 3.8GHZ boots but 4GHZ doesn't post with renegade's original 903 settings.
~Bex
It's not hard to setup the bios, just the board is not as easy and stable as the DFI board was. guess i expected more, like bios updates :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I left most of the ram timings on auto since the board is more stable that way, change any of the timings and it wont pass 24 hrs prime. personally i think it was a bad bios update, i would flash it again but asus in there greatness and massive wisdom blocks the bios from being backdated or reflashed. Atleast thats my experience anyway.
I know i can now use the afudos from this site to reflash, but I may as well just install the rampage bios.
3.4Ghz isnt too bad either, so i'm not saying this board is crap, just has some annouying quirks
OK, just flashed to the Rampage 219 bios, and everything seems pretty much the same as the 1004 maximus BIOS. All dividers are borked BUT the 400 strap. Just like every other bios i've flashed to, on the 400 strap works. Is this a board limitation? Other then that, seems pretty damn cool. Hope it likes my 8GB coming tomorrow!
I have just a few questions about some of the new settings, and where about to set them at?
1. Common Performance lvl? I have it set to 7
2. pull in of CHA PH1 = enabled
pull in of cha PH2 = enabled
pull in of chb PH1 = enabled
pull in of chb ph2 = enabled
(should these be enabled or disabled????)
3. CPU PLL voltage auto sets to 1.648 IS THIS TO MUCH???
My basic settings are:
fsb 426
NB strap 400 (only 1 that works)
DDR 1135 (2gb ballistix)
Im just playing around with this new bios, but I can say that this RAMPAGE change over made a difference. Prior to this I couldn't even boot at 430FSB with my Q6600, not with the same voltage (1.432) it seems stable:)
so today i got my corsair dominator's! so far pretty awesome but i think i can do better on a few things, at least, hoping so.
here are my settings-
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5...emem221no3.png
Extreme Tweaker:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1113/cimg1271kg6.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6576/cimg1272br3.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6347/cimg1273od5.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2319/cimg1274ny4.jpg
any suggestions on improvements?? wtf is up with my WRITE speed ??
also, any suggestion on lowering voltages?
for anyone with a similar hardware setup, this seems to be a good setup so-far, @100% stable..
*edit*
the corsairs are revision 2.2's (unfortunately...)... do you think im ok w/2.12v in BIOS, & 2.22v REAL ?
Great voltage ericab, I need 1.45 just to get 3.6 stable on my q6600 g0. that's amazingly low for 3760
:eek: whats your VID ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
Looks pretty simple and str8 foward, just like modding the PSP.
However, with all the so-called benifits being RAM sub timings, where do these show actual user results in real world apps (not just games) and especially not just for synthetic apps desighned to show numbers higher by small fractions? I realize it's fun to OC for the max, but are modding such a new mobo, voiding warrenty, just to score a few more benchmark points that worth it. I mean I only tried the BETA 0907 BIOS and it messed mine up and I had to RMA, (still waiting), imagine if on RAMPAGE, I'd be eatin' that one today. I'd end up just buying the real RAMPAGE for the same I spent on Formula.
I'm just curious, cause I see only the score numbers but hear nothing about the real world Office or Adobe apps benifits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Well, around here, a few extra points in benchmarks are always appreciated.
What BIOS is best now? And how are they clocking with the wolfdales? Just ordered my self an e8400 and I never really spent any time with this board, been out of the computer loop.
Q6600 G0 & Ballistix Tracers OCCT Mix 2 Hrs Stable Configuration:
My OC exp tells me that RF0219 BIOS does help my Q6600 at *8 multi acheived FSB475 using 333 Strap but it wasn't fully stable enough to pass OCCT/PRIME stress tests long enough (Everest Tests or similar permittable).
Q6600 at *8 multi and high FSB460+ can means a lot more stress on the NB than equivalent clock using *9 multi. *9 multi could bring the CPU clock all the way up to 3870mhz Prime SmallFFT stable on air but at the cost of lower system bandwidth. *8 multi brings out better overall system performance but at the cost of stability due much higher NB clock speed (Using NBCC calculation: FSB * Stock Multi/Set Multi = FSB465 * 9/8 = 2093mhz vs 1860mhz). RF0219 is still a little more stable than MF bioses at high FSB configuation becouse of fewer occassions of "DET RAM" hang. Overall OC experience is a bit more smoother than the MF bioses I've tried.
Stability is my main concern and I can finally pass OCCT Mix 2 Hrs stress test using RF0219 Bios at 465FSB*8 Multi, 333 Strap. Technically speaking, RF0219 bios doesn't give me an advancement in OC but it does help my system stabilized at FSB465. No DET RAM hang and no odd problems.
The additional finer tuning options in the RF bios gives me a slightly more system bandwidth at no additional cost to system stability when you tuned the settings right. You need to have an idea of the FSB set to the corresponding FSB strap used to know how much further bandwidth can you gain from adjusting the performance level settings in Transaction Booster.
Here is the full configurations for your reference:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 8
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled (Enable will gives you slightly more bandwidth at the cost of stability)
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
LVL: 07 07 07 07 07 | 07 07 07 07 07
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.48750 (1.464-1.472)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO (1.664-1.680)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65 (1.680)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 (2.208)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 (1.456)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075 (1.104)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (1.104)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ableRF0219.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-4-8Stable.jpg
Which part don't you understand? It's a pretty simple 123..etc. process. His mod files contain the 207 Rampage BIOS, flash with that then flash again with the 219 BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
I´m now running my memorys in ~1150mhz with 2.20v in bios...Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
I've changed to the rampage bios 219, so far it has made a change.
I am currently only stable at 3Ghz instead of 3.4Ghz due to the ram being unstable
When compaing setting with everest, it appears the Tref has dropped from 16383 to 15600 and the Write to read delay setting for same rank wont hold setting I try. for instance i set 13 and it comes up as 5, i try 15 and it comes up as 7.
I am also using the ram 1:1, which brings the ram to 756Mhz, it use to be stable at 1007Mhz. they fail in memtest and almost straight away in prime.
more playing needs to be done since i've obviuosly done things backwards by trying the original settings.
I've also noticed the auto settings tighten certian settings, yes i have tried to manually set the timings.
At FSB 333Mhz 1:1 all seems stable, bump up the ram above 667Mhz and it will fail.
I have also noticed the are less choices in ram dividers, not that it really matters, but with MF 907 i had 4 choices in ram speed, with 219, i have 3. again, no big concern, just a difference.
I cant figure out how to change the Tref and the Write to read delay setting for same rank not holding the setting i set in the bios is alittle concerning but then i am only trying to mirror the 907 settings which was 13 and that may be way overkill.
I know the CPU is stable at 378Mhz x9 so i'll atleast all i need to do is play with the ram tll its stable and bump it up slowly.
probably doesnt help i have 4 sticks installed and they are not matching sets, but the MF 907 didnt have an issue with this.
more playing with timings needed:)
is there a program (other than everest) that i can use which will report the ram timings?
Here is my own observation of Performance level and Pull-In. When performance level is set to x and all pull in are enabled my bandwidth scores are the same as PL X - 1 with all Pull In disabled. Therefore PL7 Enabled performs like PL6 Disabled. (Or you could almost view it as Pull In Enabled = 0.5 lower PL, in the above example PL7 Enabled would be PL6.5).Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
In any case my sticks of RAM ran at a certain speed with PL7 on the MF1004 BIOS. In order to achieve the same speed stable on the Rampage I had to use PL8 Enabled. Even though I went up (relaxed) a Performance Level I still got the same scores in the Everest cache and mem benchmark.
As for your dividers issue, I suspect that you may need to relax a few settings for now to test things out. Try PL7, Pull in disabled, Twister to Moderate and run a lower FSB with a divider pushing the RAM higher. Also give your NB a touch more voltage. I can get all dividers working with no problems, assuming it doesn't push my RAM over a known limit to which I've previously tested stable to. Dividers were fine for me on the MF bioses as well.
Totolly understood, just curious if anybody has actually run real media creation or editing apps to see if it pays off. Like I keep saying, I go for high end test too, but it usually never hold in real world day to day.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
I'd do more sub RAM tweaking if I knew more of what the actual setting was doing for my OC other then report a higher score in benchmark. So I usually leave them to auto or nominal for stability during editing.
I've made a post about a simplier way to flash to Rampage:
Read
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2484
is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?
thanks
Yes, u can return back to MF i you want...Quote:
Originally Posted by atomica
Did you bother to look at this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580Quote:
Originally Posted by atomica
1004 and your 8400 will play very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
for MF 1004 is the best to date imo for 45nm
Dammit, it is locked... Guess they don't need us anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericab
Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
OK, so if I understand what you just told me, If I disable the pull in options, I can gain some more stability? Thanks
Yes. Also, if relaxing the PL to 7, 8 or more with disabled doesn't allow you to use other straps and dividers then list out the important bios settings here (like XtremeTiramisu has done here) or take screenshots of it and upload them (like ericab has done here) and then we can take a look at what might be going wrong :)Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Hi guys
Im about to get this board but have a question my memory is
4gb 4x1 of corsair twinx2 6400C4 will I have any issues with this board?I had a Asus P5E one month ago that shipped with like the third bios and two of my sticks would give constant errors in memtest so I was about to rma the ram when I found a person with the same board same ram and same issue his solution was to flash to the initial bios which I did and never got the erorrs again.Since the boards are similar wanted to make sure I would have the same issues.
Looks like Asus got pissed about all the Maximuses and P5Es transforming themselves into Rampages and back. I wonder how long it takes for latest Rampage bios? I popped in one of my L737Bs yesterday just to see how well the Rampage handles quads and I found MF 1004 bios still handled the quad better. So at this point, I'm gonna have to wait for another bios.
Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?
You can disable in BIOS the sensors OPT 1/2/3 and any hardware that is not present in P5E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
You can reprogram your P5E BIOS with same commands of AFUDOS, changing only the name of the BIOS image.
You mean my board doesn't have any real overheat? its only that those sensors are reporting numbers for hardware that doesn't exist? I don't understand that second part about afudos, Its the first time I use it... sorry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
edit - I think I now understand, you mean I can use afudos to flash back to my original bios just as I flashed to the rampage bios? but can you tell me if there is any real overheat or not?
OPT 1/2/3 are Rampage otional temp sensors that don't exist at all in P5E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
You don' have any overheat in your rig.
I confirm that the procedure to revert to original BIOS is the same as you did to program Rampage BIOS in your P5E.
Only the name of the BIOS image has to be modified in the command string of AFUDOS.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I suggest to buy a MAC.
I suggest to get latest memtest86+ and check again.Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
A lot of false errors were detected by a relative new version of memtest (without +).
I haven't pushed it much yet since I'm rebuilding my loop and a new case, but I'll put some numbers up as soon as I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
First Post & noob oc'erQuote:
Originally Posted by Brama
I have this memory and was having problems too. (post hang at "countmem",random errors in memtest 86+) My mobo came w\ bios 0602 and I worked my way up to 1004 and was about to try rampage bios when I saw Kup's post on 0505 being good for 8gb's mem, so I tried it last weekend and now everything works perfectly(passed 12hrs memtest86+)Thanks Kup
BTW new mem arrived today:rolleyes:
the maximus formula also has three fan power ports that have the option to fit thermal sensors (still havent found any sensors that actually work), so it is perfectly safe to disable the opt1/opt2/opt3 sensors in the bios. It's becuase you dont even have the optional thermal sensor ports, so dont panic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
In regards to the RF0219 bios, i goofed. my previous post reported a lower overclock and certian settings wont work, so i flashed back to the MF0907 and found i still couldnt run 3.4Ghz stable.
I also found i just couldnt reach the previous settings i had before, i.e. tREF, Dimm clock fine delay, tWTR which all apear to be auto set by the bios. It didnt matter what setting or speeds i ran at.
edit: I've found tREF changes automatically with the ram divider so 1:1 isnt as stable for me but 5:8 is.
I'm now back to the RF0219 becuase i have now realised where i went wrong.
I remembered to reset the cmos after the flash, I reset the bios with F5 then restarted but where i think i went wrong is i booted into windows overclocked.
I am purely at stock settings (all on auto) and have o/c'd since the second reflash to RF0219 and now i am seeing the old settings. when i overclocked then went back to stock, i couldnt get the old settings.
so now i will slowly increase my settings over the next couple of days.
thought i'd share my experience, i'm use to being able to flash and set then reboot. it appears there are many options that this board does automatically behind the scenes. so the first successful boot into the OS must be at stock clocks
but i can also confirm, you can go back to the maximus formula bios with ease :)
hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
That would be nice for all P5E3 Dlx owners ...but we have already one unsuccessful attempt , http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=777Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
You'll need to post your bios settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
Prolly one bad stick mate... also do you keep the sticks at 1000mhz or do you let the bios do it ?
q6600 vid 1.3125
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enable
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
have try pdf setting of gskill 333 fsb 266 strap and 2.0v error but i try 266 fsb defalut (q6600) and ram at 1030~ work good no error or try 250fsb and 1000mhz ram work good when try 333 strap 266 ram 1002mhz error ect 400 400 error 333 333 error.... i try many software prime occt memtest and other but no error for 24h but with this software goldmemory after 40m have error... In fact I have several crashes in games and other unusual things
sorry for my bad english :p
Are the release notes for the different BIOS's available?
Didn't see anything on the ASUS Download page or on the FTP site.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 -- SET 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052 -- run closer to 1000mhz or underclock
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto -- 55
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto -- Disable
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto -- Disable
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto -- SET 1.5 : this setting overvolts 2
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 -- Be carefull this is 2.12 in reality !!!
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5