Thanks Tom :up:
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Nicely done andressergio, I got my hands on one a couple of months ago and although it's not the quietest one I've owned, it's definitely the best. Gotta love the packaging too, very nicely presented. I also experienced higher volts on the 5v and 12v than on my old Jeantech which was always silghtly under spec, but never caused any major issues. I can confirm that my DMM gave no fluctuations whilst I loaded the CPU and GPU, and reported a constant 12.15v for me, even during reboot, same goes for the 5v rail.
I bought it more for the reassurance as my old PSU had definitely had a good innings and was having problems which turned out to be the mobo (which is now RMAed and going good).
Sorry for ranting in off topic there!
Like you, I'll have my hands on a Q9650 by the end of this week, seems like stock might be starting to thin out a bit over here.
Seems like Corsair HX850 put some power on the system look at the shaders !! could do this before on my TT850 :D
Q9650 @4500/1200
gtx285 @ 800/1872/3024
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/4...nuevafuent.png
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Very nice clocks there. Perhaps you can lower your vcore a little now also since it made such a difference to the shaders. Whats up with Sanctuary hardware section stating your Q9650 has HTT?
All these screenies are driving me nuts... I'm now being told that 9650's are discontinued, and stockists can't get their hand on any more! I'm gonna be majorly gutted if I miss out on one, and rather fruious, as I've now been to 2 sites who supposedly have them 'in stock', only to discover they dont, and can't get any more.
Can anyone confirm this? (In the UK at least)
I had same experience with my PSU.
The shaders and GPU core were both stable at higher clocks.
Congrats Sergio
Yeah, OC Nub, Nkresho, The Viper, Davit and myself (anyone else I missed?) all have L847C's and they all perform very well. Go to some brick and mortar stores and have a look through their stock if you can.
sergio.. maybe time for 1kwatt/1.2kwatt @ v12.4 full load psu ?? :D
Me. :yepp: Sold one (Poor VID) and kept other two.
Working with them both as and when i can spare the time, will most likely ask for some advice from those of you with DQ6's at somepoint I'm sure. Also purchased one UD3R, which was soon RMA'd thanks to one dudd memory slot :rolleyes:, will source another when i locate stock for decent price. Results will be shared once i sort out my oh so wonderfull concave TRUE. :shakes:
Have you tried the place with the barcode reader name? ;) Most others as you say have no stock with no eta. :(
I got a reply at the end of yesterday that my order was ready to ship, so I'm now waiting with baited breath for it!
It'll be a little while before I get it up and running though as I've got a new rad, sensors and fans to fit, and I plan to flush the system too due to coolant problems. I might bung the 9650 in there for a quick run though, and just check that the ram is OK :)
Sounds good In-Fluence, should come together nicely.
Haha, I reckon it was all a ploy - they've sent me so many contradicting messages it's unreal. The order hasn't budged from their warehouse and it'll be 2 weeks tomorrow that I've been waiting.... I'm getting really peeved considering they supposedly had it all in stock the day they took payment from me..grrrr!
i finally got a low vid chip:)
its a L836B361 vid 1.18v.
should have it by thursday or friday.
after i mess around with and see what
it can do,ill decide on whether ill keep
my LGA775 or LGA1366 setup.one will have
to go.cant afford to keep em both.so while
im waiting im going to fire up the i7920/UD5
again and see if it will grow on me(impress me)
enough to tempt me to keep it.right now with
UD3P and E8400 its fun but after playing with
quad cores and quad cores with 8 threads,duals
just seem weak in comparison.i mean even looking
at a cpuz screen and only seeing two temps its
starnge.it might all be in my head too:rofl:
thanks andressergio.thats what im hoping too.
i would like to be able to get 4.9GHz since i have
my WCing setup with the AC running,temps should be good
I got a new water block, HK 3.0, the other day so I figured I would do some priming to test it out. I was hoping to squeeze another degree or two out of my setup but so far its not looking to be any better than my GTZ. :(
21C ambient with HK3.0
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...281/4425HK.jpg
Congrats on finding a good chip, should perform well hopefully. You should be able to get 4.4 - 4.5 GHz stable on your i7 with your cpu too though. It's a hard call.
I feel the same way you do about i7 it seems. I haven't noticed anyone else mention it making them feel somewhat underwhelmed, I was thinking it must have just been me.
I'm torn between my LGA775 and LGA1366 systems too, can't decide.
Regardless of whether or not it's better than before, those temps are great.
The temps with it are not bad, I was just hoping to see an improvement since its reportedly better, along with Gabe saying the GTZ is somewhat handicapped on a lapped cpu, which mine is. Its being used without a backplate right now but I dont think thats really hurting me. :shrug:
Ah, you too. It's hard to put my finger on exactly why I feel this way. My CPU clocks as well as my Q9650, I can get 17 - 18K bandwidth at low voltage everyday settings, and I can run SLi. I just don't feel the same way about it as I do my s775 system.
Maybe it's that once you have basically the best setup for the day, there's nowhere to go from there. I've never been as 'up to date' as I am now. With the X48/9650 I feel like it's older, cheaper gear 'competing' with the current best (i7/X58), and my inner overclocker likes that feeling.
Maybe this is how guys with brand new BMW's feel, watching the guys in Camry's driving past laughing at them and pointing.
I don't really know anything about water cooling. I've seen many other guys on water with higher temps than you though.
hoss i honestly think that changing the block will only improve 1, 2 C, some reported lots more but i dont believe it, seems the same as lapping im runing shared loop with my GTX285 OC and some ppl runs single loop just for CPU on a quad on better rads and i didnt see much improvement...only thing i did see is chilled water...
If i ever see a big jump on temps its that the block was not seated well or some other trouble...of course just my opinion
Either way mate you should be proud of your rig does awesome
Cheers :up:
Sergio
glad to know im not the only one in the boat:)
CryptiK,im going to try again once i get the i7 rig setup.
i was having problems getting over 210x20,but after reading i
found out it might be easier to do 21x210-215 and go for 4500.:rolleyes:
Yep i7's clock easier on 21x multi. Anyway you can keep the Q9650 rig for a bench toy, and use i7 for daily PC duties? You're unlikely to find another 920 like yours, but the 9650's are just so much fun.
yea ive been thinking the same thing,because this is
a very very good i7-920.i got lucky with this one for
sure.maybe ill just sell the E8400 again,and who knows
maybe she will come back again anyway:rofl:
Thats really all I was hoping to see is a 1 or 2C improvement and I would have been happy. Ive tried it at higher ambient temps with higher voltages, reset it several times with 2 different pastes and still havent seen a difference. I even pulled my 220 rad out of the loop once and ran it with just the 320 in to see if it responded to less restriction but ended up gaining 2C. Oh well.
yes i understand mate
when i first bouth my water cooler system ppl where telling me that my rad was crap...and ended scoring the same as thermochills etc...maybe some 2 to 3C...wich makes no dif for me
one thing i noticed is that the hughe block of my GTX285 a danger den BFG its not restrictive at all, use to have more temps when i runt the MCW60R and of course the 8800 ultra where heating 10C more
would be nice to chill water a bit and avoid condensation, just a bit would be awesome
Cheers
Sergio
Had another cool night so I decided to do some more tweaking on my 4500/1250 blend clock, room ambient was 21C.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/45001250.jpg
Thanks :up:
I just grabbed a QX9650 for cheap and I'm wondering besides the unlock/locked multi is there any difference between the QX9650 and Q9650? And what VTT you guys would recommend for this chip since I heard it's not safe to run 24/7 with more than 1.4V VTT?
no Q9650 are EO's not GO's.GO's are the Q6600's
yep your right about that.
But you can't beat the QX9650 especially when you get it for $200. =))
not bad but not great. i'm running 4.2ghz @ 1.288 and I don't have as good as a chip as a lot of others in this thread. i'm sure you'll hit 4.2-4.4, just with a lot of extra voltage.
and as for the qx vs q, i would def agree the Q's are a much better choice, even if you did only pay $200 for the Qx. the Q's have a much better track record for awesome oc's.
Are you asking for max stable or max speed?
For both. :D By the way I think I have trouble with temp for the QX9650, I'm using a TRUE with a CM R4 for push and Ultra Kaze 2kRPM for pull and my idle temp is around 42 for all cores. Considering I'm using a CM Centurion 5 so I might not have good air flow but I expect a lower temp than that, especially I switch from the Zalman CNPS9700 and the TRUE only gives me 1-2C better. :confused:
And is that LinX or Prime95 stable? If so then it's a pretty darn great chip you got there. Just did a quick run and found out I need more than 1.3 to get it stable so yeh, it ain't that great but well, I'm still happy regardless. Just one thing concern is the temp, idle at 42 for all cores is that normal?
LinX stress it to 100% load and my temps rocket to 85-90 while with OCCT, same 100% load but my temps never reach above 70C. :confused:
42 does seem a little high for idle but what is your ambient temp? Is yours a C0 or C1?
It's a C0, ambient temp is around 25C.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7255/img0446s.jpg
I reseat the heatsink and still same result, I guess it's just the way it is.
1.3v+ sounds about right for a C0 @ 4GHz. There are examples that need even more than that. Linx will create higher load temps than any other program will in my experience.
I've been "anti F10 beta" bioses for UD3P, coz they make 2.40B mem mutli go nuts.. wth I thought last night, I really want more CPU MHz, not mem mhz...so, flashed to F10f, to test cpu oc with mem, fsb x 2
4230MHz / 1128MHz mem was with F9 BIOS, this is abs max with 1.381vcore BIOS, 1.344v cpuz
currently testing (2 hr L4D online play) 4302MHz/956Mhz, 1.393v BIOS, 1.36v cpuz
Ive lapped the TRUE Black.....they probably made it concave in factory?...
I've also lapped the Q9650, this didnt do more than 1C maybe...HSF did most...still dont regret lapping both.
Well turns out it needs more than 1.4V to be stable @4.0Ghz, it appears to be normal as I compare to others. Definitely not a good chip but as long as I can hit 4.0Ghz stable then I'll be happy. Btw you guys have any suggestion for doing higher multi lower FSB or the other way around would be better?
So far I tried both 12x334 and 10x400 and I don't see any differences.
What fsb u use try like 9x450. with a lower multi and higher FSB your ram Can reach higher speed at a 1:1 Divider so your ram could be at 1GHz 1:1 Divider its a lot faster on the same timings then like 800MHz. Second if the FSB is higher your northbridge can handle more data. Try highering the PLL till 1.6 your safe i guess whats your northbridge voltage make it like 1.35 thats what i need for 500FSB stable. third your VTT Whats your VTT Voltage you can try highering that to i never gone above 1.35 thats my safe limit for 24/7.
O and about my Q9550 its Prime 95 Stable and LINX :+ i realy got a damm good chip idle with Vdrop in windows on stock it gets to 0.988 Volts!
Now 4Ghz at 24/7 rock stable!
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/87vc3DfUSS.png
and some benchis
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/TTKj3V1pky.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/zUP3wZlpwI.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/N3pTp2A1jP.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/FEYSZ8i3YW.png
temps at Linx not more,than 80C,at Prime95 not more,than 65C.
Rampage Extreme is great mobo!
rurik - Good work. On my Rampage Extreme I could get Linx max mem stable at 467 - 480 FSB rather easily too, however Prime Large FFT's was very hard by comparison.
Can you post a Large FFT screen (at least 2 hours)? I'd be interested to see if you can get it stable at those settings.
Nice, cheers. Also whats your settings for PL, vNB, CPU/NB skews?
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/WUUSJaXSh9.png
Still running...
about settings: Pl 8,lighter,vNB - 1.521V(monitoring),CPU/NB skews -all Auto
mines here.:D and its a good one.
fired it up using my old settings for
my other Q9650,adjusted the vcore
and got this.:D
9x500@4500 w1.37v ddr1200MHz
http://i34.tinypic.com/33aa3k5.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2wg669h.jpg
voltage settings
Code:>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
CPU Vcore..............1.23750V........: [1.406v]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.36v]
CPU PLL................1.500V............: [1.57v]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.886]
>>> MCH/ICH
MCH Core...............1.100V............: [1.40v]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.901]
MCH/DRAM Reference...0.900V.....: [norm]
ICH I/O................1.500V...............: [norm]
ICH Core...............1.100V.............: [norm]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V...........: [2.20v]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [norm]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [norm]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [norm]
Unfortunately, I can only do OC to my CPU from middle of October till middle of May due to higher ambient temps on Summer time.
I live in Portugal.
Nowadays, ambient temp is roundly 20ºC, which allows me to do some OC.
So, here are my OC settings that I set in BIOS (version F8):
MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
Robust Graphics Booster : Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio : 9
CPU Host Clock Control : Enabled
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) : 450
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) : 105
C.I.A.2 : Disabled
Performance Enhance : Standard
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) : 2.40B
Memory Frequency(Mhz) : 1080
DRAM Timing Selectable : Manual
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time : 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# : 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge : 5
Precharge Delay(tRAS) : 15
Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : Auto
Rank Write to READ Delay : Auto
Write To Precharge Delay : Auto
Refresh to ACT Delay : 65
Read To Precharge Delay : Auto
tRD : Auto
tRD Phase Adjustment : Auto
Command to #CS Timing: 2T
Clock Driving and Skew Control
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control : 700 mV
CPU Clock Skew Control : Normal
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control : Normal
System Voltage Control : Manual
DDR2 OverVoltage Control : +0.40V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control : Normal
FSB OverVoltage Control : +0.2V
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control : +0.175V
MCH Reference Voltage Control : Normal
DDR Reference Voltage Control : Normal
DDR Termination Voltage Control : Normal
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage* : -3,0%
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage* : -3,0%
Loadline Calibration: Enable
CPU Voltage Control : 1.41875V
Normal CPU Vcore : 1.225V
Advanced Bios Features
CPU Multi-Threading : n/a
Limit CPUID Max to 3: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE): Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2: Enabled
CPU EIST Function: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
***
My idle temps on CPU cores are as follows:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/983...0idletemps.jpg
I can run Prime95 25.11 stably with the above BIOS settings with the following temps:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6389/q9650load.jpg
The problem is that I cannot lower my CPU vcore below 1.41875V, because my rig becomes unstable in P95, and with this CPU vcore, my CPU core temps are too much higher.
I know it's a dilemma!!!
So I need your suggestions to help me to fine my BIOS settings.
I'd like to keep my OC @ 4.05GHz with lower temps on cores and also lowering my CPU vcore!!!
Cheers!!!
anyone helps, plz???
:shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug:
That is a lot of vcore for 4GHz, no wonder your temps are so high. Perhaps raise CPU Clock Driving Control to 800 - 900mV, it may help. Wait for someone who owns a UD3P to help you though, as I can only make general suggestions. I'd also suggest going back to say 3.6GHz, finding the minimums required for all voltages, and working your way up from there.
Thanks, m8
I'll try 3.6Ghz as u suggest!!!
Other question: To test my OC's, I use P95, running Blend test for 8 hours, which I think is too much time to try the different settings in BIOS!!!
What other progs could I use to test my OC's???
Or what methods in P95 can I use to test???
Wow, these CPU's seem to overclock almost as good as an E8600 but with 2 extra cores! Shame they won't do any ground shattering FSB in a X48 chipset based board.
Very nice overclocks guys! :up:
On the P45 DQ6 I needed to set the advanced clock control to 1000/1000/0/0 to get stable above 4ghz on good vcore. Different chipset so may not work for the x38.
Have been taking a break from overclocking and PC stuff for a couple weeks. Will get back into it soon I hope, a lot going on at home.
anyone clocked this q9650 cpu on a p35t-dq6 motherboard with 8gb ram (all 4 sticks populated), wondering if p35 chipset is going to be limited to 400mhz fsb.
Back to priming again. Sorry for the absence guys. I was getting comfortable at 4500mhz. Now I need more speed.
I'm at 506x9 (4555mhz) but temps are getting a little high. I'm peaking at 67c on prime blend. Cpu v in bios is 1.4 too (1.36v cpuz).
I'm running a cpu only mcr320/hk3.0 loop too, with high speed panaflo fans on it @ 12v. Maybe time for a rad upgrade???
I'll post screens when I get it stabilized.
sorry to post my q9550 result here but seems this thread is more active :)
is my voltages ok for this speed or I can lower some and this settings will be safe for 24/7?
Q9550 @ 495x8.5
http://i38.tinypic.com/33k8yo8.png
Some early testing at 4.6.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ss281/4608.jpg
Very nice clock, 67*C under Prime large FFT load is getting up there but it's not too bad considering the VID of your chip and the vcore you're running. It's not like temps get up that high though under normal usage though right?
If there's some better rads available though maybe give one a go.
Very nice that's really impressive, great CPU. How's your temps?
Nice run Hoss. I have to catch up now. What are your temps doing at that speed? I see you're running almost exactly the same stuff I am.
Here's last night's prime blend. I opened the window in the room the system is in. Pittsburgh winter is on it's way.
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...mestable9h.jpg
And not that that questions was directed at me, but my advanced clocks are 900, 900, 0, 50...
Nope, ga-ep45-ud3r, just a misread in cpu-z.
nkresho,Hoss331 you guys got some nice chips there.
phsinc1,thats a very nice Q9550 you got too.
great clocks guys
Hey thanks radaja!
I watched your posts very closely in the process of oc'ing my 8400. You helped me get to 4400mhz with it.
I'm finally replacing it with a q9550 when it comes in this week.
I just have to get control of my temps onthis q9650.
I might need a better rad or something.
I thought the hk3.0 would bring temps down more.
I'm getting over 65c in prime blend over 4500 mhz...
Maybe xspc 360 or the new fan spacing thermochill...
nice to have you back nkresho :up: 10C damn thats a nice temp for OC
hoss31 congrats thats a hella good OC :up:
phsinc1 good chip there ;)
lets keep the thread alive :O)
Cheers all :up:
Sergio
It is better by 1-2c but nothing too drastic. Worth the upgrade, IMO, especially since you're coming into summer temps down there.
It will let you clock a few mhz higher, which is why I got it. I might need to drop another few degrees (radiator upgrade) though.
Around the time of my cpu block upgrade (from fuzion v2) I also added a separate, second, loop for my northbridge/gpu, so my cpu had it's own dedicated loop on the mcr320.
Still, it isn't enough to keep these temps down while over 4500mhz. I'm spiking a bit over 65c at comfortable ambients (~22c).
And it's a little loud for my tastes at that speed/temp too with the panaflo fans up all the way.
Hey all you guys with the insane Q9650 overclocks might want to check this out. :p:
Don't do it Gautam I only have a 9550 !!!! there's no way I can beat these guys at or around 5Ghz
Thanks guys. Temps for that run maxed at about 53c close to the 4 hour mark when the ambient temp started to warm up, average outside ambient was about 15-16c. Since im starting to see some cooler weather I have both my rads mounted side by side in my window with it closed down on top of them. For clock controls I use 800, 900, 0, 50 for up to 4.55 and 900, 900, 50, 50 for the 4.6, both my 3380 and 9650 have needed the 50 cpu skew to prime at 4.6. I also ran a quick prime at 506 to other day to help keep track of vcore scaling. Past 4.55 its definitely starting to not scale as well, either that or I just need to work on some other voltages, ill just keep playing with it. :)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ss281/4555.jpg
Hoss, I agree on the scaling. I got stable at 4554 but it keeps freezing on me over that. No failed workers, just a screen freeze. I've tried adding more of everything vcore, vdimm, mch, fsb, etc. Nothing is working yet.
temps are geting a little high for me too. I have to keep the window open to keep the cores under 65. It's freezing in here.
Thats what was happening to me, id keep getting random lock ups and it was wanting abnormal references to run the times it didnt. Bump the cpu skew up to 50 and give it a shot, thats what solved my problem.
Finally got my hands on my Q9650 today after 2 months of abysmal sevice and communication from overclockers. Ended up going to scan, got it all in 3 days. Along with this I got:
An akasa apache - will get the chance to see how it fairs against the noctua NF-P12
Inline water temp sensor
2x2Gb 8500 Corsair Dominator GT (not looking so promising)
A tube of MX-2 and MX-3
Another 120MM radiator
Anyway, currently testing at 490x6 (just FSB testing for now). Could post at 500-510 but I'm not anywhere near 'tweaked' enough yet, but I have a nice feeling about it.
After nudging the NB GTL to +30 it has given me 1024, 8 & 10k stability in p95 but has just failed 768k. Prime fails often on the first 2 cores, so they may be the weakest. Vid is 1.2 which I believe isn't bad? Temps are just skimming 60°C at 1.35v (with 1.35vtt), but once again, no voltages tweaked. Once the weekend comes, I'll be flushing the loop and doing a rebuild with the extra Rad which should help NB & CPU temp a little more :)
Just having a happy rant for a change :D
Got my q9550 today to replace my e8400. VID is 1.3000:eek:. Batch in my sig. Kinda sucks.:down: I might sell it on ebay and drive 2 hours to the nearest microcenter to get another, newer one tomorrow.:shrug:
I am actually pondering getting another q9650 instead.:yepp: LOL because this is my secondary rig. My "good" 9650 has me spoiled.
I can't seem to get this 9550 to 4000mhz with any less voltage than my 9650 made it to 4500.:shrug:
Any input guys? Temp me...:wierd:
And my temp sensors are off... by a lot... 46c 43c 38c 41c all prime loaded 99%, and the third mount???
Wow 1.3 is realy high vid i tought mine was high with my first Q9550 it was 1.275 it was the same batch well nearly... L846B770. i traded with my brother since he's not a real Overclocker, my vid now is 1.1375 4GHz stable @ 1.2v :) but i want to get more out of it.