@ Jor3lBR, couldn't pass 475fsb at all or couldn't get 475 stable?
Out of interest what max fsb did your Giga do with the quad?
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@ Jor3lBR, couldn't pass 475fsb at all or couldn't get 475 stable?
Out of interest what max fsb did your Giga do with the quad?
Thta was Nugzo he has same processor Q9650 and he tested a Giga UD3 and then compared to DFI P45. Saw these Giga's running Quads at almost 5000Mhz :shocked: And they cost 1/3 of our DFI's:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5507/4905od4.jpg
*NapalmV5
Nugzo was hitting 515fsbx9 easy on the Giga with 1.40vcore (he was stable prime small ffts with 500x9 4500Mhz) and he tried everything on the P45 but could get passes 475fsb x 9.
I tried everything on my X48 but it won't post after 486fsb. I tried all the multipliers but it won't go it always freezes upon post.
My last hope was that Nugzo could get his Quad playing well on the brand new P45 so I could just swap boards and keep all my blocks but I saw that was a no go.
DFI + Quad's is shame.
My Q9650 is currently running Prime95 and IBT stable 471x9 and that's about it.
Oh yeah so it was me bad (puts Carlsberg can down)
You don't happen to know what vtt he was using do you?
I got 500+ fsb with a couple of Q6600's on my X48 but I had to up the pll which eventually crippled the chips ability to maintain stability at high fsb. Going out on a limb a bit here but it appeared the board wanted or needed SB voltage but as it was linked to PLL you had to have both. The same Q6600's done 500+ fsb on my P35 with no extra pll just shoot loads of vtt.
I hope to pick up a Q9650 soon hence my interest.
You can check his volts here:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8002/4500ra2.jpg
But with those volts on a X48 you won't get passed 470fsb stable...
Interesting. Temps are not a concern for me as my cpu and mobo runs very cool but I never passed beyond a moderate 1.7v on the PLL/SB do you think that could be holding me?
And I've tried everything BUT PLL to get 500x6, 500x7 etc on the X48.
It was what held me back but I wouldn't like to recommend you try it for fear of damaging your chip. Maybe 45nm quads can handle more pll than the 65's could try it at your own risk but be warned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Sure I understand C-N I won't ask you for a new chip believe me :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Yeah some testing around the net are proving 45nm to be MUCH more resilient then 65nm's.
They endure a but load of more VTT and probably PLL too.
Thanks anyway. When you get your Q9650 we can swap some more cards :up:
thanks for answering that.im going out on a limb here thinking that the jr p45 and the dk p45 have similar heatsinks on the NB. so if i end up with the dk, hopefully all will fit :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger
And the DFI UT P45 T2RS
I soon start to the E8400 Q835A
http://cfs11.tistory.com/original/1/.../4923c3aca049f
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Nice!
Thank you, 1028 test. ^ ^
Hi!
I just mounted my LP UT P45-T2RS and for last few hours I'm trying to solve "little" problem - with GTX 260 PCI-Express x16 works only in x8 or sometimes even x4 mode. No matter what NB Voltage, what drivers (or even without drivers), what settings or what BIOS (1007 or 1028) I use - everytime GPU-Z and CPU-Z reports "x8" mode. When I switch card to HD 4870 there is no problem, PCI-E run with full bandwidth - back to GTX 260 and again, PCI-E only in "x8" mode :shrug: (on a different mobos like P45-UD3P or DK P45-T2RS Plus it was working fine)
BETA 1028 BIOS is on the DFI website & I've added it to the 1st post.
@ Weelkoo maybe this will fix your issue :shrug:
http://img.lanparty.tw/Upload/BIOS/CM/L245DA28.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
Fixed PCIE 4,2 Slot X4 , X1 issue.
hey c-n how are the ocz reaper and sli
Weelkoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weelkoo
Glad you posted this issue here on this excellent thread by C-N, I just saw his post on the bios update. I hope it works for your board.:)
C-N:Quote:
@ Weelkoo maybe this will fix your issue
http://img.lanparty.tw/Upload/BIOS/CM/L245DA28.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
Fixed PCIE 4,2 Slot X4 , X1 issue.
I am having this same issue with my DFI LP JR P45 T2RS. Do you know if there is or will be an upcoming bios update for the LP JR to address this?
They all run very well. I have 3 x 2GB sets of GMH based 8500 SLI & all of them will do 1200mhz fully stable easy within OCZ voltage spec.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmR
The 8000 Reapers are in my work station that runs 4GHz DDR1000 24/7. I haven't pushed them but I have had them running stable 1055mhz on the 266 strap @ 5.5.5.4.15.5.46 PL7 1.977v. These 8000's run a bit poor in my P35 board but the P45 loves them.
I haven't run my Reaper 6400's in a P45 board other than the T-Power so cant really say how good they go. Good as the 6400's are being Micron based which allow CL3~5 & uber voltage they still cant cut DDR1200 with low trfc like 4 x 1GB's so they are kind of obsolete for me performance wise.
I really couldn't say but if it really is an issue then I'm sure DFI will sort it as they have done here. I would pop over to DFI Club & ask this question if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro
I have heard of this issue with the JR but thought it was/could be cured by adding a bit more vNB.
yes i was posting that a week or 2 ago. couldnt get my q9550 e0 past 470 any vcore, any vtt, any vmch, etc. no problem going over 500 with the asus p5q deloox. the ut p45 still great with duallies and 65nm quads. hate to say it but looks like dfi dropped the ball on oc'ing 45nm quads on all chipsets. hoping x58 is a winner, going to i7 on monday with an evga, until the dfi is released, or possibly the foxconn bloodrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
after flashing to 1028 BIOS from DFI Site GTX still works only with PCI-E @ x8 :
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7...tuubioszm6.jpg
Q9650 in da house :D
Only had it 2 hours & I can tell already we are going to get along just fine together.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...650/4GHZ1H.jpg
C-N: do you need that much VDIMM to get it stable?
No, I just left the RAM safe whilst I try to get the CPU small stable. I think these sticks need about 2.0v for 1066. Remember these are old GMH that like the volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
I'm sorry to hear that, Weelkoo. Looks like we may both be stuck with the wrong link width:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Weelkoo
Thanks, C-N. I also tried increasing the vNB to no avail. I am also posting at the DFI Club and they don't have any more info on this issue either. However, I also posted this at Clunk's forum (DFI LP JR P45 review thread) and Clunk has just told me that he has seen this link width issue with three other DFI boards now. Including an 8800GTS 320mb card/DFI LP UT P45-T3RS setup:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
And, there is the unfortunate news that the beta bios didn't help for Weelkoo's DFI LP UT P45-T2RS, he still is stuck at 8x.
Needless to say, I don't think this is looking very good at all, and I will probably order an Asus P5Q Pro tonite:rolleyes:
Yeah you will enjoy the Q9650, by far the best processor I've seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
My Q9650 needed 1.15vcore for 4005Mhz and 1.10v for 3600Mhz.
Wish you luck on the P45 500x9 is the goal :up: Your problems will start at 9x485 that's when it gets really tuff for the X48 to keep up and stabilize.
Right now on the X48 my 24/7 config 4252Mhz (474x9) using 1.336 on the Digital Multimeter / 266/667 Strap PL 6:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2q8ol68.jpg
Thanks bud, I know everyones got one & I know 4GHZ is a breeze but the last quad I had was a Q6600 that did about 3.8GHz so the Q9650 is blowing me away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I am gonna rap it in for the night its 1/2 one in the morning here (time flies ay) I have her running at 4.3GHz 1.328v loaded right now & she's stable but I'm starting to bully the board a bit with voltage so I'll quit now & start by tweaking the GTL's out tomorrow.
Sure I'll shoot for 500 x 9 but I'll probably aim for about 4.2GHz for daily use. I'll most likely stay on the 333/800 strap/divider & run 4 x 1gb sticks. The P45 boards PL is one behind the P35,X38,X48 etc.
Great! Yeah 4200-4250 is ideal with low volts, for me to run 4300 stable was a big jump on volts those extra Mhz won't be missed. For 485x9 the max PLL I used was 1.8v I still can't put myself on using more then that. Less then 485fsb nothing more then 1.6 was required.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
My board likes a little bit less then 67% x Vtt let's trade some feedback to see how it plays on the P45.
Anyway thanks for the info and have a good night.
Hi,
I can open windows but I can not stable at 470 fsb with 4 ghz at Q9550 C1 revision.I want to use 24/7 at 4ghz.Can anybody help me?
I haven't got it nailed completely yet & its only about an hour stable but my chip has roughly run 4GHz 1.216~1.232, 4.1 @ 1.248, 4.2 @ 1.28~1.296 & I'm currently good at 4.3 with 1.328~1.344 loaded according to CPU-Z so its scaling nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Haven't touched PLL yet & don't intend to, call me chicken but I've wrecked good chips with PLL & despite what anybody says here on XS about killer voltages IMHO PLL hurts & I'll stay away from it.
My CPU likes 0.67 & so did my NB to a degree but I found I can dramatically reduce the VTT needed by raising NB GTL to 0.69
@ Thule welcome to XS :YIPPIE:
I would try all GTL's to 0.67 & give it 1.25v vtt then see what happens.
Hey C-N thanks for your reply pal.I got worker number 4 error with prime95 when my cpu vtt 1.356, all GTL's are 0,67 and cpu voltage 1.36.I tried everything but nothing is changed.
we're the same. i also wrecked 2 good chip e8400 by upping the pll voltage to 1.75v for hitting 600fsb on P35. the chip died in less than 5mins without doing some benchmarks or anything. i don't know if it's connected with a higher vtt. but i think P45 is a different story. i saw some benchmark using high pll voltage & i think they never had that problem. but i'm still afraid getting the pll voltage up even on P45 because of that bad experience :(Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
i know this is the ut thread ...but does anyone know about the new blood iron..good..bad...there,s now reviews out that i could find on it
Where has it crashed, what fft & does it always crash there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thule
I also find setting the GTL Buffer Strength to weak helps my chip.
I have seen plenty of people using high PLL & getting away with it but I'm not taking any chances. P45 may be different & I have very briefly tried upping the PLL on this UT P45 with my quad to see if it could stabilise 500 x 9 which it didn't so luckily for me I should have no reason to run PLL at anything higher than stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSUB
For anyone interested the PLL & VTT measure points are measured on the chip marked SK12 directly behind the yellow SATA ports. The D6 side of the chip is PLL & the other VTT.
I'm still not fully comfortable with my quad oc atm (still learning fast) but thought I would post up where I'm at right now just to show you quads do work on this board.
Q9650 @ 4.2GHZ 2 X 1GB @ DDR1167 / 266/667 Strap/Divider.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...65042GHZ8H.jpg
hi C-N .here is the picture.
Ouch thats instant fail, you have a long way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thule
I would back the fsb down, find a stable point & work up from there.
Nice clock but I was just hopping the P45 had a better PWM design able to support Quads power amount. Looks like they still kept the fragile design used on the X38 and X48 series (for economic reasons), this is really a pity as they work wonders for Duo's but can't scale with Quads.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Those Q9650 are really comfortable along the 500fsbx9 line with aircooling so not to use this amount of extra power is just a waist. :shakes:
But in any case if you're generally happy with 460-480fsb the DFI's are solid stable with low amount of volts but they will just fail above that.
Thanks for the effort CN!
Thule you are far away from the GTL Ref settings on your chip, you are using 45nm Quad GTL Ref on a Duo chip browse around DFI Forum and the DFI X48 Thread to discover the optimum GTL Ref for your cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I would do what CN is asking you back it up a little and start from there :up:
cpu E8400
M/B DFI Lanparty UT P45 T2RS
RAM OCZ 7200 SLI 1x2
VGA x700
POWER ZM 750-HP
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/25.../491f7bc3e1204
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/20.../491f7bc4236d5
FSB450 x9
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/25.../4927fbf7a33b9
FSB500 x9
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/27.../4927fbf7af4d8
FSB523 x9
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/14.../4927fbf7d4e67
FSB534 x9
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/21.../4927fbf7e05fd
FSB556 x9
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/13.../4927fbf7e9a6c
http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/18.../4927fbf80cb41
E8400 batch code Q832A
"nidecker"
I'm playing with UT P45 T2rs but have some problems to get >550fsb stable.
Can you post me your settings for high fsb?
What is max fsb on dual core orthos/prime stable that you have reach ?
http://cfs10.tistory.com/original/16.../491385be151da
>CPU Feature:
Thermal Management Control.......... - Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Disabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Disabled
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 1
Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Relaxed
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
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Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - 15
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - 35
Performance Level.................... - Auto
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
>Voltage Settings:
CPU VID Control..................... - 1.35V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.29v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.455v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.29v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.61
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.61
FSB Vref............................ - Auto
Genie BIOS Settings:
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 6
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3600MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 600
Boot Up Clock....................... - Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 0ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/667
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1200MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
FSB600 orthos / prime test of the soon
@ Jor3lBR,
The boards not a slouch with a quad in any way but it still cant out do any of its predecessors P35, X38, X48 etc.
I see other boards making 500fsb with a quad but I don't see the masses holding 500 stable.
I don't think the issue is the PWM there may or may not be an issue with the PWM that I'm not aware of but for me the issue of quads not scaling up like for arguments sake the UD3 has more to do with the "CPU Clock Amplitude". My board/quad needs this to be increased from 800 to 900 to even boot over 475fsb & it needs it upped again to 1000mv to go past 500fsb.
I don't know if its a hardware limitation or even if 1000mv is insane & likely to kill a chip or not but I sure would like to pump a bit more to see what happens.
Oh... & 460 ~ 480fsb is plenty for daily use but if 500+ is available on the UD3 then it'll be a UD3 I'm ordering simple as.
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@ namegt :up: looking good.
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I am getting one of those boards soon, and looking for a CPU for it. I am thinking something like E8500 or a QX9650.
Yes, the QX is very expensive, but I found a used one for like half the price. Still expensive but is it worth it to buy a QX for this board? Or will I not be able to discover its potential? I mean the multi is unlocked, so I should have no trouble reaching like 5GHz on water, right? Or is something else holding quad back on those boards besides low multies?
E8500 works well but as for the QX the honest answer is I don't know as I've not had or seen a QX on this board yet :D hint hint ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
I would really like to hear how you get on if you go with the QX keep us posted. If the QX is such a good deal would it not be worth buying it, giving it a whirl & if it fails to live up to expectations ebay it on for what you paid for it?
Yeah, well, you are kind of getting to me saying that I "will be the first one to put a QX in that board hint hint". Problem is, E8500 would still cost me less than half, and my spendings increased badly lately. I guess I will think about it a little bit more, look around for overclocks of QX9650 may be :) Will keep you guys updated and join you when I get my board with one CPU or the other.
I think I was stable at 450 fsb but I am not.After 1.5 hours during prime95 blend stressing my computer did not BSOD.here is my 450 fsb settings ;
I try to reach 4ghz 24/7 but I can not be stable at 450 fsb yet. What is your recommandations C-N?Code:>CPU Feature:
Thermal Management Control.......... - Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Disabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 2
Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[124ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[110ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[262ps]
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346s]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[14ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[56ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[110ps]
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
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Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - Auto
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - Auto
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - Auto
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - Auto
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - Auto
Performance Level.................... - Auto
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. -Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
>Voltage Settings:
CPU VID Control..................... - 1.40V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.21v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.351v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.27v1
Vcore Droop Control................. - Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
FSB Vref............................ - Auto
Genie BIOS Settings:
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 8.5
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3825 MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 450
Boot Up Clock....................... - 350
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 200ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 400/800
Target DRAM Speed................... - 900MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
Any word on the P45-T3RS or the dark version?
there are a couple lp dk p45 out already, and recently the p45 blood iron available.
I think its fair to point out that everyones view on stability is different, some are happy it goes in windows & some like me are a touch on the pedantic side & like to beat hardware up to prove a point to myself. Lets for the sake of the argument say were taking Prime95 as our must pass test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thule
I think you need to find a stable OC or set yourself a must pass target for stability. I personally like 1 full loop of prime from the start 1024k right through to 4096k about 9 1/2 hours as my must pass minimum. Having said that even that will fail Linpack 8/10 times & on very rare cases fall over in 3DMARK but a little more voltage has pretty much always sorted things out.
I am fairly sure I don't have to tell you how to overclock but for the threads sake you need to stabilise something & work up from there. I would suggest backing the CPU fsb down & jacking the ram divider up first to find out where your RAM gives up. Then back down the RAM to 333/667 & jack up the fsb a little & stability test using apps like Prime95. Dont forget Prime95 can be run with custom fft's to help pinpoint where work is needed. You don't need to wait 45 mins till Prime fails at the end of 10k when you can set prime up to start at 10K.
As for your settings, everyones system runs differently sure we can all advise things that worked for us but please bear in mind they wont necessarily work for you.
News or availability?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Availability wise I haven't seen the T3RS in the UK yet but in Europe HPM & SLT have had them for a couple of weeks.
I dont mean to tease you guys..... well ok I am :) but I went for the QX9650 and expecting to have all hardware in the house by 1st dec (there is always hope). I figured I might loose less money on buying the QX than a new E8500, just hope it performs.
Keep your hopes up :up:. The board only gives up on Quads when running high FSB but with unlock multi you have better chances as you wont need to push high FSB:Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
Clocking DFI X48 with QX96505.8Ghz
With cascade but at least you can see what you can expect :up:
http://cfs14.tistory.com/original/28.../492c107acdc37
http://cfs11.tistory.com/original/36.../492c1091e6ddd
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.25v
damn it makes me wana buy this board i have a smoking E8400 E0 thats bagging for some stable front side bus....is the board stable at these speeds...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by namegt
@namegt
That is a very nice E8400 (832A)... it smokes my E8600 (820A) that I recently got back from RMA.
Awesome, the spotlight's on you :D keep us posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
well im dead set on buying a ut p45 but whats up with this thing about nvidias gtx200 series not working right in this board? $200 is a lot of coin for a board...but i have no problem spending money on good hardware...but i want to game with it with out the pci e slot going from 8x 16x while im playing...:D did they fix this yet with a bios update...if any has an answer i would appreciate it...thanks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136061Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
newegg also has the dk t3rs and the p45 blood iron.
Here is some 45nm quad o.c.:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7264/65975342cy7.png
The BIOS setup:
A thoughtful testing is still undergo, but for now (an hour of rendering) the system is stable.Code:>CPU Feature:
Thermal Management Control.......... - Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Disabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Auto
Enhance Addressing.................. - Auto
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 2
Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[124ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[110ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[262ps]
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346s]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[14ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[56ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[110ps]
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
.
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - Auto
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - Auto
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5 (Auto sets this at 7)
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - Auto
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - Auto
Performance Level.................... - Auto
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. -Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
>Voltage Settings:
CPU VID Control..................... - 1.40V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.01v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.351v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.29v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.45v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.6300
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.6300
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.6300
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.6300
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.6750
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.6750
FSB Vref............................ - Auto
Genie BIOS Settings:
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 8
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3800 MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 475
Boot Up Clock....................... - Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 0ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 0ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - Auto (A manual set at the same ratio crashes)
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1141MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
He he, I got almost the exact same clock priming right now with a Q9650 & 4 x 1GB Sticks.
Worker threads are all over the place but its still running :shrug: I'll post up my settings if it runs a loop properly.
CPU Voltage is crazy, I think I've got about 1.45625 set in bios which drops to 1.4 something in windows which then droops to 1.36 under Linpack load with vdroop control disabled!!! DFI have got to sort this out!!!
NB, CPU & VTT are all a good few clicks over what they need to be btw.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...650/4HCrop.jpg
Keep the bios templates coming. I am still trying to sort this board out. Those templates are helpful!
E8400 DFI UT P45 T2RS @5.11GHz
Water cooling
http://cfs11.tistory.com/original/2/.../492eb73bce992
http://cfs14.tistory.com/original/27.../492f43f3e210f
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=452272
4.3GHz was still running when I got hack from the Pub :toast2: so here's the settings I used.
As I mentioned earlier the VTT, VNB are a good few clicks over what was needed but I was concentration on getting 4 x 1gb sticks to run with low voltage rather than nailing an overall low voltage clock.
The vcore is also a few clicks higher than it needs to be as I tested it with ITB/Linpack after getting the rig CPU stable with Prime custom runs. I found IBT/Linpack needed the extra voltage to complete successfully.
I think 4.3GHz could be on the edge of stability judging by the way the Primes worker threads wandered during this loop. I will play about with 4.3GHz to see if I can get the threads to run more even & post my findings if I work it out.
I'll add some Everest (about 10200mbs across the board & 50ns from memory), 3D & anything else anybody wants to see to this post as soon as I get some free time, I got to wine & dine my good lady tonight & I'm working all weekend again!!!
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http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...1148/95HGO.jpg
Short Description:Code:>CPU Feature:
Thermal Management Control.......... - Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Enabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Enabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - By Menu
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 6
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 6
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 1
Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 100ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - More Aggressive
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2074ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2074ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[454ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[454ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[386ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[372ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[454ps]
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - More Aggressive
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2088ps]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2088ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[426ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[426ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[330ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[316ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[426ps]
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
.
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - 10
All Precharge to Act................. - 5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - 30
Performance Level.................... - Auto
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - 13
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
>Voltage Settings:
CPU VID Control..................... - 1.4625V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.01v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.455v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.398v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Weak
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.6700
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.6700
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.6700
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.6700
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.6900
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.6900
FSB Vref............................ - Auto
Genie BIOS Settings:
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Disabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Disabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 0
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 9
Target CPU Clock.................... - 4302MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 478
Boot Up Clock....................... - 400
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 1000mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 0ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 0ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/800
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1148MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 105mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
Q9650 @ 4.3GHz 1.375v (CPU-Z Load)
4 x 1GB RAM @ DDR1148 2.01v BIOS, 2.05v Actual (DMM)
Can someone make 500 FSB with Q9650 on this mobo? P45 allows do it with quads.
Yes I can boot 500 x 9 into windows & run benches but I don't think I can make it Prime stable. I am sure its not the CPU holding me back more like the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
But what about 500x8 stable and 24\7 using? I guess this board can do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I appreciate the Q94/9550 has a lower multi & people with those chips would need 500fsb but 500 x 8 = 4.0GHz & my chip can do 4.2~4.3 easy so its not something I'm interested in running.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
I haven't finished squeezing the board yet but in all honesty I don't think my rig will be stable at 500 x 8 or 500 x any multi. I don't think the board is strong enough (I would love to be proved wrong btw) This could all change with a BIOS update though :shrug:
I will give 500 x something a shot & if need be I'll bolt my Vapo on it as well. I would also like to put the Q9650 in my DK P45 just to see how it handles it, who knows it could be a killer.
Yeah. Try it, mate. Coz Asus MIIF can clock Q9650 500x8 totally stable.
4 Sure I'll give it a go but I do feel the board is starting to loose it after 470fsb. It could just be me skillz or my kit but the board has stopped scaling so It isn't looking promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
I like ASUS a lot but I'm thinking more toward a Giga UD3P as my next board, I haven't had a Giga for years since GA8NXP socket 939 so I think its about time to give them a crack at the whip again.
the only thing i see lacking in the last 3 dfi board is high fsb quad clockingQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
ut-p35 x-38 ut-p45 all lacking something in bios for quads
but they good for core2
I think the basic PCB is the same for all the boards & thats probably why they all have the common issue with quads.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Don't get me wrong I'm actually quite happy with my UT P45 it truly is a lovely board to play with but I'm with you, they are missing something for quads.
i be happy with the ut-p45 too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
but @ least you can use d9gkx now
on my ut p35 they just suk
I sold all my GKX & I've had good luck with GMH so I wasn't to pissed about it. The sucky thing is I believe DFI know how to make GKX work properly on the P35 but because the board had been replaced by x38/48 they just couldn't be bothered, a bit sad for such an awesome board but thats just the way it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
It seems that many of the others posting here have ATI/AMD cards and do not have this issue so they neither know or care about the link width problem with DFI P45 boards and some Nvidia cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by VOID WARRANTY
I can answer your question, it has not been fixed and DFI most likely can not fix it. If you go to the DFI Club or Clunk's Forums you will find other cases of incompatibility with various DFI P45 boards, both the ddr 2 and ddr3 versions and Nvidia cards, not only the 200 series but older 8800's as well.
I have given up hoping for a fix for this and am tired of running at a crippled 4x link width so I bought an Asus P5Q Pro this week as a replacement, going back to my ATX case.
It's a shame though, because otherwise, the DFI was an excellent board:(
yes they do knowQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
now the x38-48 can run d9gkx with prazs setting
funny the x38 replacing the p35
the p35 is faster:rofl:
C-N What ram are you running here? I am having some issues and I think my ram my be part of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Same as you OCZ PC2-8500 SLI (old Micron D9GMH 2.3v)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...n_dual_channel
I know its kinda hard to explain in text but what sort of issues are you having?
Right now I can't get any overclocks out of this thing. With out upping several voltages, and I am talking about very mild oc's like going from 2.8 to 3.0. I know once I got my memory sorted on my LP P35 everything else fell into place and my Q6600 would do just over 3.0 @ stock voltages on everything but the NB.
Edit: I know I am comparing apples to oranges here but so far I am not impressed with the P45. I hope to see a bios update soon.
@ Kris
If in doubt about your memory set it safe, It should at least do 1066 CL5 on 2.3v
Set 333/667 strap/divider.
I think I got well into the mid 400's before needing to change anything tricky . I just added 1.3vnb 2.3vdimm & set vcore up to make 1.36v in windows.
The next big thing for me was GTL's .6700 on everything sorted that out you may want to try it. Oh & GTL buffer to weak helped here too.
I later tweaked the NB up to .6900 along with skew tweaks to keep the vdimm down but you wont need to bother with this for a mild OC.
Code:>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Auto
Enhance Addressing.................. - Auto
T2 Dispatch......................... - Disabled
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Whatever Auto Makes
RCOMP Settings...................... - Whatever Auto Makes
Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 700ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Whatever Auto Makes
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
.
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - 15
All Precharge to Act................. - 5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - 35
Performance Level.................... - Auto
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
Well, I got the QX yesterday and I got the motherboard today. Just assembled everything, running watercooling on the cpu, OCZ 9200 5-5-5-15 ram and everything runs well at 3GHz and DDR2 800, cpuz says 1,168 and core temp says VID 1,25. (a little confused, but I think I get it) Getting familiar with the board after sitting with a semi outdated AMD system for a year :)
After having a look at the numbers and letters on the CPU, I would say it is an old chip ... L740B306 is the batch right? Not familiar with intel steppings very well.
Will try pushing fsb a little today and see if I can get the memory to run faster.
Thanks for the tweaks C-N. I am priming @ 3600!
I think I'm stable at 465 fsb and 3958 ghz.I will use these settings 24/7 and I try to up the fsb 480..I hate C1 stepping q9550....
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5673/47810764ee6.jpg
I wouldn't be worried the 2 are reading different things, sure it would be nice to see them both the same but the Core temp vid is a variable value where as the CPU-Z vid or vcore is what you are actually running (or near as 4 my money)Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
The vcore value set in BIOS is out of whack with reality I think, I haven't measured actual vcore on the UT but my E8500 needs the same CPU-Z voltage on my DK which I have tested so I think I'm right in saying its the UT thats at fault.
Having said that the DK & UT set vcore differently UT sets a straight voltage like 1.25v & DK adds voltage to vid so perhaps if I left vcore auto & added voltage via special add the UT's voltages would run closer together....... will test later.
Good luck & don't keep us guessing ;)
You are very welcome :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
480~485fsb is doable but I had to bump vdimm up a lot to prevent the system locking up!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thule
I also had to change my 4870X2 out for my 3870x2 as the 4870x2 kept crashing the video driver after a few hours of Prime!!!!!... very strange perhaps my new 4870x2 is bad or perhaps there is a small incompatibility here :shrug:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m.../435095HGo.jpg
Now I have been priming for the night, this board is harder to tweak than I thought because im not used to intel. What I discovered so far is that it does not boot at 412 fsb no matter what settings. I have seen a test of an early QX9650 that stopped at 413, so u can see where the problem is. Getting an E8500 or something soon. Anyway, here is a screenshot of things, multi keeps going down to 6 when idling, under priming multi was 11 (364x11=4004GHz). Now in Windows at same settings but at 4.1GHz, one of the cores failed right away :( Anything I could tweak to get it stable with no increase of vcore?
Have you considered there may be a fsb hole at 412fsb? I would try jumping the fsb up a bit like 420, 425, 430, 435, 440, 445 etc. I personally have not seen anything worthy of calling a fsb hole on the UT but my DK has a funky spot between 400 & 450fsb depending on the divider & a lot of other settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
Maybe try upping the fsb from within windows using set fsb to see how far the CPU will go.
The multi drops because you have EIST & or C1E enabled in BIOS, its not a bad thing I know XS members that swear by using it but you got to have a nice stable rig in the 1st place.
As for tweaks your C0 stepping Will likely run different than my E0 but I would try bumping the clock amplitude, CPU Skews, GTL's, try setting GTL Buffer strength to weak etc.
P.S You got to love DFI tweaking :D
I considered the fsb hole, but I only tried going 420, never thought that the hole could be that big. I will try 450+ on fsb, see if there turns out to be an fsb Grand Canyon on this board :rolleyes:
I managed to get vcore down about 0.02 and still maintain prime stability at 4GHz btw.
Right now, sitting in a jacket with open windows and heaters off, will try to push it to some high MHz, what is the safe voltage when running water at about 5*C+/-?
And where is that tea? Im freezing here!
LOL the glamour of overclocking!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
Intel say 1.36v normal & 1.45v absolute max & so far apart from one real volt hog 8400 I haven't had to go much past 1.45v to run out of cooling on air or water so for me its about 1.45v.
I tried like 450 on fsb, its a no go. Later on i will put out some screenies of cpuz etc, right now i will try to get sub 10sec spi times. Hit a wall at 10.100s now. Would be so much easier with dual core
You need more Vtt, Vnb and try setting your GTL settings to 0.67. Or disable them all together and see where you can go first.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
I did most of the things you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
When it comes to GTL, i tried that at 0.67 but I gett better results with them arond 0.63 :)
Right now, <<<<<<cpu VTT is at 1.4, is that to high or still to low?
Getting 10.047 in spi now
Edit: 10.015
Edit2: I did it in 9.999 ....... could not be clolser to my goal, lol
I think your vtt is a little high. If you going for stable 24/7 clock I would lower it if you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
If he is only bench running that's super low. Probably above 1.6vtt for bench runs would be considered a bit high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Been more then proven over this year that no 45nm Quad died because of high VTT's that's an old myth like many others out there, especially with such a good board filtering all the noise before it hits the cpu.
Re: Safe voltages for 45nm CPUs
XS member leefgoofd suggests (somewhere here) that voltage limits for 45nm CPUs, for 24/7 use are: Vcore <= 1.40, Vfsb <= 1.40, Vpll <= 1.60, Vnb <= 1.60.
I think that Vnb = 1.60 is OK for a P35 NB, but I don't know what the max is for a P45, which uses smaller technology and seems to run lower. Suggestions, anyone?
I'm posting here because I just had a PM from fallwind re. the "QX9650 @ 420x10" in his sig. He now has it at 400x10, because after running for a few months at 420x10 with Vcore=1.45, one of the cores degraded. I thought that I'd warn you guys!
I'm very wary of high FSB voltages too. This setting controls power to the transistors that drive the external signal lines from the CPU to the NB, and they have to handle much bigger currents than the transistors inside the CPU. That means that incresing Vfsb generates much more heat. Leefghoofd posted some figures on temperatures of his QX running at the same CPU speed but with different (multilpier x fsb) settings, and the temps were much higher with higher FSB speed. That shows that a big fraction of a CPU's heat is generated by those FSB drivers. Take care of them!
Thank you to all for your advice on safe voltages. I found myself most of the time saying "wow, I am way below that" and on rare occasions saying "ooooops.... "
Well, I promised to put out some screenies of my results I had yesterday, and here they are.
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CPU-Z screenie shows my max overclock so far, I had about 1.55 on the vcore, remember this was in a cold room. My C0 is so much behind all you guys with E0 quads :down:
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My final SPi score was below 10seconds, so I reached the goal I set to my self.
And probably one of the most exciting overclocks of them all, breakthrew in my rather low FSB wall!
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After the room temps have gone up to be comfortable levels and I was about to quit, I tried booting up at fsb 455, and it did. I tried 465, 475, 485, 495 and botted no problem every time. Finally I managed to boot in at 500 as you can see on the screenie, but my memory is not working right and has to go back. It craps the pants anywhere near 1000MHz, so while no problem at fsb 495, I had to slack the timings for 500. I think with better memory (should arrive in a few days :) ), I wil continue climing the fsb wall.
I left it priming at 10x390 for the night, but the stupid Vista is newly installed and not configured yet, rebooted for some updates (says in the log) and interupted my priming session :shakes:
Enjoy!
Now thats what I'm talking about :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
FSB Grand canyon :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
After the room temps have gone up to be comfortable levels and I was about to quit, I tried booting up at fsb 455, and it did. I tried 465, 475, 485, 495 and botted no problem every time. Finally I managed to boot in at 500 as you can see on the screenie
Haha, I almost forgot to thank you for the idea of a possible fsb hole there C-N :)Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I later tried to boot at 430 and 440 on fsb, and it did. It just was a bit weired, like when I hit F10 to save and reboot, it turned off, but booted in to windows when I turned it on again.
Getting 2x2GB OCZ 8500 tomorrow :) Looking forward to it. So far, I had a lot of bad luck with memory.
2 sets got bad in time, and 2 sets arrived but never performed at the rated speeds. All in one year one after the other. High hopes for tomorrow.
Ye its a bit strange to try to explain thats why I said my DK gets a bit "funky" sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't & the "FSB Grand Canyon" to coin your great phrase moves depending on the way the board is setup, voltages, divider etc all make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
The only 2 fsb's that don't run on my UT are 467 & 487 so I just jump them.
486fsb looks to be the max I can hold prime blend stable before my board/setup locks up. The q9650 chip will small prime 500fsb, it would be interesting to know how you get on.
Based on what I read in this thread, 500+ is not common for this board, right? I hope I will get somewhere with my new memory. Otherwise, it was not just my memory that was stopping me :S
I still have to say, this board is so much fun. Even if you hit a wall at some point, there is aaaalways hope, that u can change some setting and it will go further. I love it!
Edit: My ATI4850 just arrived, so my DFI set up will look better from now on. Was going to run 2 nVidia 7900GTO in SLi yesterday until I realized the obvious. Never mind, just a habit :)
I haven't seen/heard of anyone holding 500fsb prime blend stable with a quad & this board & as I only have the one Q9650 that may or may not be good for 500fsb blend stable I couldn't honestly say. I hope for the boards sake I'm wrong & not to put too much pressure on you but you may be just the man to prove it one way or another with your QX :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
Some run a mile at a challenge some relish it, the boss at my 1st job used to call it character building & now I'm old enough to realise what he meant I have to agree.
just to comment the FSB grand canyon :
I had P5K-E with Q6600 and it had what I call 'FSB black hole' - from 380 to 470 !!!! So, it is possible
My P35 seems to be playing nicely with my Cellshock D9GKX.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
@Prostman - good job we knew the QX had more to offer. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman
500x9 with less then 1.45vcore and 3 hrs Prime95 stable - that is impossible for DFI's, never seen one doing it. EDIT: with Quad Cores.
Ran into some trouble. After running prime-blend for 12 hours @ 3600 I experienced a bsod and lost all stability( this was the next day after a few hours of gaming ). I could still boot into windows but any stability testing ( linpack-prime blend ) would hard lock the system ( upon system reset I got the C1 error ) or bsod again. I think I may have cooked the ram playing with some of C-N's voltage settings (only bois changes made). Anyway I managed to get linpack stable at 3600 again but prime blend bombs out instantly. Prime small FTT's are running now with no errors. I will try and run memtest in the am before I go to work. Any suggestions?
Update- memtest for windows produces errors and if I let it run it crashes the system. Testing@ stock with back up ram.(same set older though)
Update- Ram died! Old set passed. Oh well at least I had a spare set....
count yourself lucky lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
i got 4 sets that dont play nice on p35 :rofl:
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Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Yup looks nice & I would have been happy but you pretty much said it all in the linked post.Quote:
I know at first glance this doesn't look very impressive (500FSB, 600MHz C5 on the memory, PL6) but this was with my DFI LT P35 and my Cellshock 8000 C4 kit. Supposedly P35 and D9GKX don't get along, but I only needed 2.05V set in the BIOS (don't believe Smart Guardian's reading). I had to tweak the Clock Delay settings, but I don't really see much difference between using these and D9GMH.
Sorry for your loss, The RAM is rated at 2.3v so it should have been alright but personally I would always use active cooling & I would have throttled the vdimm back as far as I could once I got the rig stable before pounding it with Prime95.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Now you've learnt the hard way, you wont do that again will you ;)
So I got my new set of OCZ Reaper 8500 4GB ram, good thing a guy from DHL dropped of a Vista SP1 64bit DVD right after that, so i can use all 4GBs and not just 3 of them :rolleyes:
My previous RAM was at its limit at about 1000MHz, but it looks like so was my board. I am struggling to repeat that fsb500 stunt, but......ah there we go, it crashed 2 minutes after priming at 7x495.
The things I discovered that work for higher FSB on my board are:
IN DRAM TIMING section!
-Set performance LVL (read delay) as low as possible, 14 or 15.
-REF to ACT Delay (tRFC) for my ram at least down to 60.
IN VOLTAGE settings!
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage at 1.75 (anything higher does not help) + (this voltage bump helps alone with out above mentioned tweaks to at least make Vista boot process start)
Hope this is easy to understand, otherwise ask.
Other than that:
CPU VCore about 1.40-1.42
CPU VTT 1.414
Clockgen voltage 3.60
GTL Values all at 0.63 (works best here)
EDIT: Priming again with same settings but both CPU Clock Scews are set to 500. I googled it and it turnes out the right setting there can give us 10-15% better overclock. The article was a few years old, but 8 minutes and still priming. Coinsidense?