@slim142 - Nice work, man. Was that your first attempt at sleeving? If so, I'm even more impressed.:up:
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@slim142 - Nice work, man. Was that your first attempt at sleeving? If so, I'm even more impressed.:up:
Yeah man, this is my first sleeving attempt :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SpazBoy357
Thanks! :cool:
well done.
good use of the guide! im impressed
As I am sleeving my PSU I figured I would give this diagram to the thread, I found I needed it and this is sleeving central ;)
http://www.motherboards.org/images/a...des/24-pin.jpg
Actually what I did was sleeving one by one (on my ATX extension) and draw both female and male connectors on a piece of paper with 24 squares each. When I was finish with the first one, I would write "1" on both drawings and so on. It really helped me :D
Nice tutorial,comes handy cause i just ordered murdermod psychopack!
When you braid the atx do braid in pairs or single cables?
You could do it however you want. I did every cable throughout the entire machine individually. It's all about personal taste but I think near the connector it's good to sleeve each one individually.Quote:
Originally Posted by clone38
Yeh i agree i like the look of all the cables done :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
Thanks. :up:
I have been sleeving all day and got hung of the basics. Now problem occurred, i got P&C Silencer 750 Quad (Black) PSU and the 24 atx main cable is white. i found this from the depts of internet ( http://www1.acryan.com/_connectx/ACR-CB4968.shtml ) but didnt find any shops in finland that sell those. And i definetely wont use the white one.
P&C Replied to me : "Comment: Hello Niko,
Unfortunately, all of our Molex connectors are white. You can purchase black ones online, but I cannot determine if there are any retailers in or near Finland.
If you have a Molex tool, the operation should be very easy. As long as your power supply and its function is not damaged, your warranty will remain valid."
so no help from there. Im pretty stuck at the moment cause of this. Good news is my Stacker came from powdercoat ( was cheap ) and looks good.
You can buy from petrasQuote:
Originally Posted by N3it1
http://www.petrastechshop.com/20pinatxfeco.html
They ship internationally, and have very good shipping prices (I've bought the entire second row in my sig from them)
I think I'm going to buy this kit during the summer. Will you offer other colors? I'd like white....
that will be sort of expensive if i order it from USA to finland. Id prefer europe since dollar is gone stronger against euro from last time ordered from petras.
Caseking.de has them as well.
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...:::28_427.html
ok.. i hate to see guys getting ripped off for a molex tool. I'm not sure if there's this drink where you guys are, but if your local supermarket carries this.. the straw that comes with it is PERFECT for removing the molex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakult
A pack comes with 5 straws, more than enough to sleeve
lol. u asian? :D i find those at the asian market all the time
hahaha yes i am :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jdmR
I must admit, that idea was ripped off vr-zone.. but it works so well.
Thats 20pin,im looking for 24.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
hmmmnnn ... I don't like you guys in this thread very much right now ;)
All the enthusiasm shown here for sleeving PSU cables got me going. 2x PCI-E connectors and 1x8-pin mb connector down. Just the 24-pin biggie to go. Not to mention scraped up fingers and a squillion flying staples. Pics when (if) I finish :p:
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...-cm::6619.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by N3it1
;)
Just reporting back, to say I successfully completed my little project. Sleeved the 24 pin, 8 pin, and 2 x PCI-E connectors on my Corsair 1000HX. Used the murder mods sleeving kit, and STAPLES ... I HATE STAPLES !!!! But, they worked. Forgot to take a pic of my bleeding fingers, but here are a couple of shots on the cables installed - I was too anxious to see if it worked to take any pics of the cables by themselves.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/4...70_rbaBK-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/4...86_MrUAu-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/4...51_pC9CP-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/4...46_KbNG5-L.jpg
Now I have to work on the best way to arrange the cables ... looks a bit of a mishmash right now. After doing all this work, my view is sleeved PSU cables probably look better in a vertical arrangement ... not all that much to see in the horizontal mb config. Final thoughts - this is the type of project where you get pretty good at it by the end ... but I can't imagine ever doing it a second time!!!
Thanks to Dengals and all for a great tutorial. I'm amazed I didn't electrocute myself, or at least fry my PC.
Great Work Shazza!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
The result was definately worth the effort :yepp:
Thanks,nice work by the way shazza!Quote:
Originally Posted by ultimeus
Im doing the dangals with 2 1000w completely modular power supplies thus I have to do both ends and my god is it taking forever
Nice job, Shazza!:up: It looks like you did 2 wires at a time on the 24-pin, was that more difficult than doing one at a time like on the PCI-E's or was it easier?
heres my first attempt at sleeving
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g..._1197small.jpg
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g..._1199small.jpg
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g..._1212small.jpg
its not as great as some of you who have been at it a while, i don't think i would have attempted to sleeve my PSU if it wasn't for this great thread.
EDIT: for your sake i have edited this post to just use the link, unless someone can tell me how to get the forum to resize thats how it will be.
EDIT 2: thanks for the help guys here you go.
looks like those sour rope this lol
The forum doesn't resize it I think. You'll have to upload thumnail or 17" screen size pics and link to the bigger ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by moose517
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangals
Thanks, Dangals and N3it1. My fingers are still sore!Quote:
Originally Posted by N3it1
I'd say it was a push. I decided to do 2 wires on the 24-pin, because I was worried I'd have too much spaghetti falling off the board. I've managed to get it to look a little more organized, but in retrospect - I'd probably go ahead and do 1 wire ... I think it would be easier to "drape" the cables.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpazBoy357
I found the actual sleeving took only a couple of minutes ... getting the pins out is what tortured me :eek: I think if I do another one, I'll do one at a time, but maybe look into a smaller diameter sleeve. I love the murdermods sleeving, but it may be just a bit large for the one wire sleeving ( just my opinion ... I've seen it turn out quite nicely for others).
Quote:
Originally Posted by moose517
You did a great job, moose517.
Re the pics ... if they are too large, you do have the option to resize (using Edit) in Photobucket (or just load them into Photobucket at a lower res). Then, just copy the [IMG] link directly to your post.
thanks, i'll go edit the pictures so i can have then actually show here. I'm used to EVGA's forums which auto size the pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
So how much sleeving should I get for my current PSU if I plan on sleeving each cable individually? (A rough estimate is fine, I would rather have a lot left over than run out while sleeving)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256024
Check the length of your cables then multiply that by the number of cables in each one then add an extra 10' for safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
Nice work Shazza!Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
My first PSU I sleeved (Current one) took about 3 hours to do the 24pin. Having another set of hands is FAR easier.
A little tip for you all, this is from my "attempt and fail" experience :D - Staple are the best, no doubt about it, place the staple in the "Hole" and push it all the way down using a hard surface, then, hold the Connector (So the 24pin connect for example) with a TOWEL or RAG, then pull the cord. this method worked best for me :)
I cant for the life of me remove the 24pin connectors from my Corsair HX620. I can do every other cable very easily. I have now sleeved a 24pin PSU extension cable instead. Anyone got any ideas why they wont come out?
They need more force both on pushing in the remover and also on the pulling aspect. Lot's of people reported this :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nzbleach
i bought 200 feet of 1/8" for mine, i did all individual, corse i'm using a different PSU. From the looks of it i think ordered more than enough LOL. plenty leftover for future additions to my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
I found the staples worked for me as well, but one of the keys is to try and make sure you bend the staple in the center, so both ends hit the little flanges that are holding the pin in - at the same time.
My next attempt (should there ever be one!) will also be better, because I'll make sure to pull the sleeving really tight before heat shrinking.
Dangals, first thank you for sharing a good chunk of sleeving trickery, that would have been hard to come by if it were not for the open attitude you and other MurderModers (I understand you're one of them) have adopted. I'm impressed, intrigued and I want to sleeve everything inside my case right a way ... I did read the entire thread and it seems that Psychopack stuff is the way to go. Not only it's the best quality, but I'd also support MurderMod undertaking ... the problem is that I've been dreaming of white color -- are you guys (again, my operating assumption is you're one of the MurderMod team) going to have those sleeving packages in colors other than black any time soon?
Mate it was my pleasure to share the guide with the XS community!! My undertaking of this was completely inspired by the build Charles did for FriedChicken and in fact that build is what made me decide to build a MurderMod myself. Over the last months Charles and I have spoken quite abit and are now good friends :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberkost
So to answer your question no I am not an employee of MurderMod the company but I believe that the white sleeving is something they are looking into (correct me if I am wrong Charles/Nils).
Any votes for Stickydom yet?
This is an awesome thread for all those that contributed and cheers to the OP.
Petition the Admins for a sticky?
It gets my vote.
I will definitely be checking back here when I get back to case/part modding.:up::clap:
It's already indirectly "stickied" by way of being a link in the Computer Case Modding - Guides, Tips & Tutorials sticky...Quote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
Just a few pictures:
http://img2.abload.de/img/pic354po5.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/pic3516sc.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/pic3428kr.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/corsair_mdpc_editionf4w.jpg
http://img2.abload.de/img/corsair0dnxx5.jpg
http://img2.abload.de/img/corsair04md4.jpg
http://img2.abload.de/img/pic023mmw.jpg
Hey guys,
I'm going to cable sleeve my case fans and was wondering what size heat shrink to use.
I have been looking at this and wondering if it was what I need (using 1/8" cable sleeve);
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...roducts_id=172
Cheers,
s e r e n i t y
I personally use 1/4in for both ( black w/ red tracer doesnt come smaller) but 1/8th and 1/8th works well, if you can find 3:1 heatshrink, use it, otherwise, a 2:1 adhesive would probably work well too
But would the 5mm heat shrink that I posted above work well with 1/8 sleeving :P?
slightly above 3mm is 1/8th in, 5mm would probably work also, but if you can afford it, get some of both, in case the 3mm doesnt work out for you (imo, you can never have too much sleeving and heatshrink, lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by s e r e n i t y
Damn, those are some nice sleeving jobs.
How long and roughly how much did it cost to do the PSU and other misc. wiring?
a new medical condition has just been accepted in the Medical Journal:
Sleeved Cable Envy (SCE)
Symptoms: Severe depression caused by severe cable envy...Treatment:only be resolved by making your own or bribing successful XS Members ...:rofl:
Bribing will begin in 3....2....
Anyone in USA will sell a 24-pin extension sleeved like those posted?
How do you guys get such professional looking pictures?
What camera and backdrop :)?
I've been personally using my Canon SX100IS and just my desk, Havn't uploaded many photos of my project yet (saving them for a post completion build log)
I'm actually complete noob with photography but what I did was use some white paper and layed it over a table. The camera used was a Canon 350D with stock lens and auto settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by s e r e n i t y
Thanks for the tips guys!
I took a few photo's with a piece of paper on the table and it turned out pretty good. However, my camera is a couple of years old now, time to upgrade :P (Merry christmas me)
please reupload some of the photos this is the perfect guide, i will be using it for me first build :D
How long are these heatshrink strips?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...90ef6e560d7648
EDIT: nevermind, I see it's per foot.
Read through the whole tutorial and posts, etc ... I have had the sleeve bug for some time now and wasn't sure where I would find the time to read up on it, but when I found this ... I put everything else on hold. What a read! Dangals ... thank-you very, very much and everyone else who has contributed to it. :up:
It will be incorporated into the "Arctic Breeze Way" worklog! Now to order my MM sleeving kit :D
My own mini guide take here.
As I mentioned early on in this thread, the only thing I add is this: whenever possible add a collar under the heatshrink so that the heatshrink won't pull off the sleeving at some point in the future.
thinking to sleeve all the cable in my PSU, especially with the ATX cable one with 1/8 sleeve/cable...
so i just want to know, from the experience of all you guys with sleeving, how much/long do i need to prepare the 1/8 sleeving one.
i'm thinking to get about 10/20m for the 1/8, is that enough or more than enough to sleeve all cable ? :)
thx..
I think it all depends on how many cables are being sleeved/ how long each cable is/ if you're doing individual, or pairs of cables/ the exact length of your PSU cables... but yeah, 10-20m should be a good guess imo
Well i got my murder mods sleeving in the other day so i'm excited to get everything going. They did not send me any 1/8 heatshrink with my order so I can't do anything really until I get that problem resolved. I just have the 3 bigger sizes and not much of it. But it looks very nice. Anyone got any tips on other things i can use to take these connectors off with? I have a one tool i ordered from PPC's but i'm not sure how well it's going to work. I saw the staple trick in the sleeving guide but i've tried it and can't get it to work. I must not have good staples or somethings. What other toolls have you guys used and what tips can you give me?
which connectors are you trying to get off? I used a thumbtack/pushpin for the 4-pin molex and that seemed to work fairly well. I also had a smaller needle type tool for pushing down the barbs on fan connectors. As for the 4/8-pin mobo, 24-pin atx, and 6/8-pin pci-e connectors, I am not sure about those. haven't really tried anything yet that worked for me :shrugs:
Sleeving individual cables from a 6/8/24 pin molex plug will cause more airflow turbulence, since the overall diameter of all the cables added up is greater than sleeving over the entire bunch.
Something I found recently was adhesive backed cloth tape. Wrap this around your cables where they fan out from the sleeving, then put the heatshrink tubing over the transition. It creates a nice clean look with minimal disturbance of the airflow.
I found the cloth tape (black) in the sports section of Wal-Mart. I think it's used for wrapping sports equipment handles.
Steve
hai DangalsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dangals
what is the commom size of the heatshrink which wrapping the whole cable in the atx above ?...
thx...
amazing. This is one of the best sleeving guides I think i've run across.
almost over kill!
I sleeved one psu before..went to turn it on..POOF.
never again, to tedious for my ADD ass.
nice guide though, bookmarked.
For those trying staples to get out the pins ... here's what finally worked for me:
1) use regular size staples - not the mini ones
2) straighten the staple with small needle nose pliers
3) bend the staple as close to the middle as possible to get it even on both sides- I wrapped it around one end of the pliers
4) insert the ends into the sides of the opening for the pin ... wriggle it until you make sure you are contacting the flanges that hold the pin in ... push in as far as you can
5) pull the wire out of the bottom of the connector - sometimes you have to pull pretty hard, but you will generally know if you have the pin released
Using two staples didn't work very well for me, and it was a lot of trial and error to get the technique down. Once you get it working, it isn't too bad.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
Good add, dingdong. My fingers are finally healed. I've actually got another PSYCHOPACK here ready to do another PSU, but I'm just not sure I'm strong enough yet :p:
On another note ... does anyone know of a good guide for combining three fans for a radiator? I had a few last year, but the pics have expired. I know how to do it, but just can't seem to get it as neat as I'd like. (apologies if it's buried in this thread - I've read the whole thing, but don't recall a 3-fan post).
These work great for the majority of ATX connectors:
http://www.frozencpu.com/images/prod...rge/slt-01.jpg
Anubis - the heatshrink I used there is 20mm which was perfect for the bundle.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis_is_evil
To everyone else - thanks for the kind words about the guide - I believe it has a life of its own now and as more and more people try to sleeve their cables they can add to this guide with their own experience and the guide will continue to improve and grow. :up:
does anyone know the site where they compared the different types of sleeving? it included the murder psycho pack as part of their review
awesome guide, definitely a huge help for people going custom. thanks!
Lucky duck :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
I want to sell my rig so I have enough cash to do another one!
Besides murdermod'z sleeving, does anyone know any other good sleeving?
not technoflex, but others..
Thank you for the guide and this is what I picked up.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9544/dscf0885of5.jpg
I get my sleeving from a local audioshop in the hometown of a forummember from a different forum.
Maybe you should search for a electronic(like DIY) or a audioshop in your town.
yeah, have the same question like Eddie..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
thinking to get these, are they good as well ? or them is almost about a same as techflex one ?
http://cableorganizer.com/fray-resistant/
looks like the techflex PET
Been sleeving whole day and got 8pin and 6+2 done yet. And now that i got my groove on for this its time to go bed.
I know that is man, I normally do regular build work/research in the day, and then my sleeving at night- I actually find it relaxing, lol, but then again, I'm not re-doing all the sleeving of my CPU itself (I like how the HX520 already is, other than the seperate 4 and 8 pin CPU cables) , just all the internal wiring- fans, SATA cables, my Kaze Master...
can someone give me an estimate of how much 1/8 sleeving and heatshrink im gunna need to complete a whole hx1000, im wrapping each cable individually(1/8)
u can pick up a 225' spool of some really nice stuff for 30. http://cableorganizer.com/nylon-multifilament/ dont know if u've seen Langer's build but thats the stuff he's beeing using for wire sleeving
It's good stuff, but is a little tough to get on. The PET (heavier weave, not the usual TechFlex) also looks good, and is much easier to put on. Still doesn't look or feel as nice as nylon, though.
Both sleeving kits from MurderMod have more than enough sleeve to cover not only the HX1000 plus a few other cables within your case as well. Plus you will not find better sleeving anywhere. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by CharMz
Good luck with the sleeving :up:
Just a tip: If you don't have a heatgun or don't want to use a lighter, just hold the heatshrink over steam.
That way you'll never burn your sleeve or cable and it shrinks very well and even.
Be carefull though, steam is very hot!
a heat gun that does dual heat 750F/1000F is only $20 at home depot and its a small investment EVERY modder should make. Speed and ease of use > $20 especially when your building a $1500-$2000+ rig
I have this gun and it kicks major heatshrink ass
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100371401
Ive got a jobmate that I picked up for like...15 bucks (i think)..dual heat- only a 10A, 250c(482) and 450c(842), it works well for me, but because I do most of my sleeving and modwork at night I normally use a lighter instead
damn the pics are down
Quite nice job mate, keep up the good work. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by emir
Cheers,
C Sullivan
pics stills down :(
Heat Guns are soo dangerous. One mistake and it will take the skin right off your hand.
Use a lighter.
lighters are only really useful if you're working with black only...and only REALLY powerful heatguns are that dangerous, the one i've got...I've used it on my pants to dry them off before (on low mind you)
PICS Back UP!!!! (well most of them anyway) :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
Sorry it has taken so long to get this sorted out - hopefully this time there wont be anymore problems. :up:
Thanks Dangals I was dying to see them back up! this guide is a must for everyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangals
As said by Nils. The key for getting a good sleeve is to stretch the braid as tight as you possibly can onto the cable. What I found difficult was to actually keep this tight stretch with the heatshrink. How do you guys do this? Cause my shrink was not holding on strong enough to keep the braid perfectly tight. (using murderware)
you can use adhesive lined heatshrink if no other solution works for you ;)
Just let more heatshrink be above the blank cable. 5mm is good enough to hold the stretch. Make sure the heashrink is shrinked to maximum. Test the heatshrink alone to see how far it shrinks to get confidence for your work :)
Plus you will not find better sleeving anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangals
+1:up:
has anyone in canada ordered from http://www.mainelectronics.com/heatshrink.htm before? I was looking at them because Cable organizer seems to have some stupid high shipping costs for sleeving (22 bucks and up for 15 feet of sleeving) and they seem to be not only cheaper per foot, but they'd also (in theory) have cheaper shipping within canada as well
Great guide Dangals...Has inspired me to take a run at sleeving my PSU for my new PC. Lets be honest, it will prob turn into sleeving everything for my new PC.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodWorker420