Its CPUz reading it wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEye
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Its CPUz reading it wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEye
naughty CPU-Z
Thanks for that. I'm glad to see that someone actually tested it rather than trusting wikipedia (again).Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I think I just saved about $400...
I didn't test the chips...No Harpertowns here, BUT SM told me plain that they had Harpers working in a X7DAE MB..Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
Send me a couple Harpers and I will be glad to test them for you..:D
http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...000X/X7DAE.cfm
Look over on the left down a few inches under "cpu"
and it shows harpertowns supported.
BUT if your building from scratch and can't get a SkullTrail this is the one you want:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...00/X7DWA-N.cfm
Well I was originally planning on getting the TYAN S5392 (another Seaburg based system like the Supermicro X7DWA), then considered the Skulltrail because of OC'ing options, but now I'm considering one of the old 5000x motherboards that are in the $200~ range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Let me ask: What Harpertowns are you planning on buying?Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
My question is because if one is spending say $2000.00 on chips why chinse on the board?
The 5400 seaburg is THE way to go if your building from scratch.
Yup, $500.00, but even a X7DAL-E open box is $300.00 at the egg and almost $400.00 new..
Buy the 5400 even if it's a stretch..I guarantee you you'll be happy you did in 3 months especially if you get 1600FSB cpu's..
You say you've never seen anything useful using PCI-X and then in almost the same breath say you want SAS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
My friend, you're not looking hard enough.
http://www.govconnection.com/IPA/Sho...tm?sku=6655702
http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.as...=ex_r2910_CISZ
Not to mention all the other RAID, storage, and ethernet cards that use the standard.
I don't want it because of the additional cost; however, people purchasing workstations usually have cost as a 2nd thought.
1. I plan on buying the $250~ E5405s = $500~ total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
2. I won't get 1600 Mhz FSB until Nehalem simply because I won't be upgrading this lineup. Nehalem will be my next upgrade and it has a different socket anyway. The difference between 1600 Mhz and 1333 Mhz is very insignificant in my work.
There's also SAS cards for PCI-e x16 and x8 :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
If I do get a dual socket board, it will probably be SkullTrail because, as I said earlier, socket placement is a lot better and allows for easier mounting of coolers :up:
Dual Dtek Fuzions :eek2:
Movieman - what Socket 771 boards are good in terms of overclocking?
I've got a Dell server with a pair of G0 E5310s that I feel are being wasted and I'm pondering yanking the board out in favor of something that will OC.
He's squeezed a bit more mhz out of his SuperMicro. I've heard Tyans can be quite good...Quote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
I need model numbers and approximate FSB levels that can be hit w/ FB-DIMMs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
It just makes me cry that I can't get these lovely chips over 2GHz in this farking Dell POS (and that is with a 1066-1333 Pad Mod).
2XE5405s are there better than 1XQ9550 if you wanna game?
In some instances, possibly, but most games only scale up to 4 cores at the most now (I mean newly released games, 1 and a half to 2 year old games usually only utilize 2 cores), so short answer, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEye
If the primary purpose of your system is gaming, then save yourself some money and just get that quad. But if you do CPU intensive applications like intense video and photo editing, and all the like, a dual quad might be worth it.
Or you could be nice and set one of the CPUs to do WCG work while the other games :D
no neverQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEye
dudes keep this in mind - theres a chance skulltrail wont make it out, odds against it
dont bet your life skulltrail will make it out
if not, there are still the 3 ghz 45nm xeons and 5400 boards to go with..... (prolly cheaper than skulltrail anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
*slaps self and goes back to waiting for q9450 and 9800 GTS(or whatever the hell nvidia will call it)*....
Is the 1.138 voltage accurate? If so, wow just wow.
@FUGGER
I thought 13500 was good on my Q6600@3.8, but this, this is completely uncalled for.
Too bad you can't render on the PS3 (yet), otherwise I'd have at least 4 by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingcarcas
X7DWA-N I believe is the model you'll want... its the only 5400 board i've seen overclocked yet anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
^Any link or info on how it was done?
If SkullTrail has been made available to boutique builders, then there surely has to be quite a bit of them available :D
one would think, but maybe 775's can run two sockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllAgainstPaul
No. CPU-Z is producing an error.Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenMutt
CPUs are socket 771.
1333 fsb? or have they added the 1600 multiplier to the bios :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
put the heatsinks shown on this post are 775, not 771 which are nearly identical to 604 (just lower).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Those are the stock heatsinks for the QX9775 which is a Harpertown Xeon based socket 771 processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenMutt
the northbridge will run hot with the cpu orientation. will need a fan.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenMutt
What would need a fan if you water cool the CPUs is the RAM :up:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...011211728.html
they claim 771
That's what I said :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenMutt
especially packed that tight. I had to build a duct which leads to a 120mm fan to cool the ram and nb on my two dual 5000x sm systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
i was really hoping for 775, cheap dual socket like the old days.
No...you can't say that -VaporQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
I'm loosing interest already, 3k retail a cpu!
You could use any regular Harpertown Xeon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenMutt
can someone post a link or explain to me what the difference between regular ddr2 and fb dimm (or fd whatever it was) ddr2 memory is?
Also this is just a truly sickening setup...really amazing too see, I want one even more now!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_Buffered_DIMMQuote:
Originally Posted by 7499richard
FB-DIMMs use what's called an AMB (advanced memory buffer) chip located in the center of the memory module. An FB-DIMM transmits data in packets, using a bi-directional serial bus. Also, a conventional memory controller requires 240 trace lines per channel, while an FB-DIMM requires only 70. This reduces the complexity of the circuit layout.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7499richard
come on FUGGER show us some nice pics of that system
http://forum.offstage.be/images/smilies/threadpics.gif
P.s put in 3 8800 ultra's and break your the 30K 06 record :D
Still would have been nice if this board had used DDR2/DDR3 normal memory. Quite a few here would have scooped one up.
If they were currently scoopable, alot of people would be scooping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
In another thread here, with the same 2 processors in a Skulltrail @ 4GHz, scored about 13k lower.
?? Link..Fugger shows 34K+..I got 22,564 with clovers at 3258Quote:
Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
A Harpertown at 4000 would put out like clovers at app 4400 so maybe on the 27-30K range but not 21,000 witch is 13K lower than Fugger's score.
The other one is running XP 32 bit, that's why the score is so much lower :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...79#post2716379Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/Pic/r10.jpg
It was noted that the operating system was 32 bit and not 64-bit, and that is resulting in a large performance drop. Also, the RAM was noted to be running in single channel.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=76
Fugger - 34,839
ZoLKoRn - 25,004
800 megahertz difference.
32-bit operating system vs 64-bit.
RAM.
9,835 difference. I can't count. :P I apologize.
any word if Skulltrail will hit the retail shelfs this coming week?
It will release on February 4th (Monday). Problem is, very few stores will have stock since this is a premium quantity-limited product.
couldnt find these one anywhere, first one look very familiar ;)
http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/d...skulltrail.jpg
http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/d...kulltrail).JPG
source: http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/d...enchmarks.html
here is how it scales:
2x4000 = 11.8
4x4000 = 23.43
8x4000 = 36,97 (Intel Yorkfield QX9775 @ 4Ghz 400x10)
from 2 to 4 is good, but from 4 to 8 for 98% Clock increase there is only 58% efficiency increase.