[QUOTE=dinos22;2190319]couldn't handle low clocks :confused: i'm confused[/QUOTE]
Thats nothing unusual my friend :fact: :p: :stick: :D
[QUOTE=dinos22;2190319]couldn't handle low clocks :confused: i'm confused[/QUOTE]
Thats nothing unusual my friend :fact: :p: :stick: :D
I am using TG Xtreem 3 3 3 8 PC5300 , at 4 4 4 12 35(TRFC) and all other setting in autoQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
and I am giving them 2.3V @ 480 1:1. NB voltage was 1.55 and vfsb was 1.4V.
But there's something going on. With the same settings I can boot to windows and run 1 or 2 hours of orthos blend, reboot and i can't even run 3 sec, and it's a memory problem all the times, perhaps it's the auto sub timmings the reason of this.:stick: Does the same thing happens to you people?
@ Eva what sub timmings do you think that are apropriate to run my memories @485 4 4 4 12 ? Thanks
OMG dinos, you're right!
This P5K board is very choosy for memory's.. Today Ive make a last try with the board before the guarantee application, with a memory what you tested too, Corsair Dominator PC8500, and the board give me signal :D
So Im testing it now, and compared to my Commando, but in one thing Im sure, Quad Core's overclocks very well in this board, my max fsb like in the Commando w/ boxed cooler was 480mhz :toast:
I'm shockedQuote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
this motherboard only has a 3-pin power connector lol and it clocks to 480MHz FSB :eek: :D :toast:
talk about RAM compatibility heheheh at least something works correctly :D :clap:
I Just found out that my problem was 0304 bios. Switched back to 0202 and its fine now.:banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretender
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I will push it more on Vapo LS, and see more max fsb, w/ Commando I cant reach more than 500-505, but I like very much this little "ugly betty" :D
oh and one more thing: pencil vmod works correctly: before: 1.35v (with enabled cpu volt damper) give real 1.30v idle and 1.26 load :mad: after the pencil I set 1.30 and its real 1.30 at load too.
ram compatibility is a joke :D I use 0406 bios, but why the D9GMH based ADATA 8500 modules dont boot I will never know :rolleyes:
I have got something to share with you all:
VDimm Mod, VMCH Mod. & measure points. :up:
http://www.teamgroup.com.tw/forums/showthread.php?t=182
Sirály :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
Damn, I was planning to get D9GMHs too... hopefully Gigabyte will not be asQuote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
choosy this time...
P35's winrar power :clap:
timings: 4-4-3-3-2-20-2-1-1
valid: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=198989
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/11/msolat2686nw6.jpg
I need memset NOW :D
thanks for the link but are they the same for vanilla P35 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IronAge
what would you get with P965 in that benchmark :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
4x1GB mushkin 7x490 with quad core right out of the box. priming now.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
i think i'm gonna be sick :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :shocked:
nice FSB clocking on quad core :cool: (P5K vanilla?)
Um.. So P5K wont run Dom 8500's or? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
Errors Found Yes..... :D
Rerun it coz the score due to errors found would be either higher or lower...;)
he is saying it WILL run with PC8500 Dominators :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xt0m
Okay master, thanks for the advice :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
dinos.. use your golden E6700 with this board.. :D
:woot:
the cell shock pc 8000 4-4-4-12 works on this mobo?
I'm going to be testing out 4x1GB Buffalo FireStix PC2-6400 D9GMH and 2x1GB Crucial PC2-8000 Ballistix Tracer so I guess I'll see how those fare when my board gets here.
Does anyone know how the raid performance is compared to the p965?
hi
i need the link to download de last bios of the P5K DELUXE/WIFI
helpme please :D
board volts = auto
i also have a 12hr orthos run @ 470x8 stock volts
love this board
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1...721vvv7.th.jpg
Check the top of eva2000's thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...94&postcount=1
0304 is beta or final?
works perfectly with my p5kQuote:
Originally Posted by ztop
0307 beta out now apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
How are Asus motherboards; any cold boot issues?
will do will do :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
if you are talking about 0304 P5K bios i am using now >>> FINALQuote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
for P5K Vanilla as well ??????Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
nope :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
any results yet?? :D
I have also seen some older ram not working in my board, like my XMS Pro with LED.
Voltage damper does work, droop is elimintaed.
Restart problem for phase change users still exist on Asus boards.
With stock NB sink my board is topping out at 550FSB
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=199837
Thanks info guys
I dont suppose anyones got the Asus P5K Deluxe with OCZ 9200 Reapers? would like to see if it's compatable. . . .
lol nice DELUXEQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
quad core topping out at 550MHz :shocked:
now that's a site for sore eyes
you should update the bios so that the RAM timings can show proper values in CPUz :)
Thats not what i wanted to hear :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
So is the P35 better than 975X? or worth the upgrade/change now, or wait for new boards/chipsets to come out? From some reviews theyve said its 4-5% faster on DDR2, any input?
Thanks
For quad cores the new chipsets are best, I am going back through DDR2 now.
I can set 1Ghz ram @ 500 FSB and 4-4-4-15 boost enabled, playing with cores and bus speeds now.
Just noticed two cores enabled on above shot, I will fix @ higher clock.
Yeah, Im going quad here shortly. P35 has Penryn support correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Yes since saturday (for my site ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:up: any worthwhile changesQuote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
Not test , the 0202 functions very well at home :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
all bearlake will have VRM to support Penryn afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by rithina
I will in a few days..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
About 5% faster respect P965.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
If you want to upgrade mobo, its up to you :)
any links to these betas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
http://www.ixtremtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70
Just wondering if anyone has tested the raid performance. :confused:
lol you been funny or something? it's on that website link you posted above for the P5K Deluxe:- http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Hardw...eluxe-0307.ROMQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
errr faster in what exactly?????Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
i don't think it's faster than P35 in RAM performance.....maybe a little slower or on par but not faster and certainly not by 5%
there is a new bios on Asus server for P5K 0407 :)
Those are Anandtech results, not mine:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2991
SPI results are not that good, but gaming tests are.
Slight better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
have you looked at his testing methodQuote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
it created the difference due to incorrect settings :shakes:
the chipset is NOT faster
Any one know if the Mushkin XP2 8500 (D9MGH) will works on this board or the Deluxe , since there are some rumors that these boards are pretty RAM picky!
@@@@NELLY
i have p5k dlx and OCZ FLEX 9200 and working VERY well
1188 a 2.25 V
Tested my corsair 9136 and worse. need morevolts to do the same...
ocz work also at 1200 with 2.25
at 1270 need certainly more volts bec errors at test 5 on memtest
So i'm happy with theses rams, and absolutly cold !!! i ise a corsair fan on it btw....
Thats great news thanks for the info :clap: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by unit365
How many sticks of ram are you using? 2 or 4?
That's a good news, can't wait to get my p5k and see how they run. Did you use auto settings or a particular one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by unit365
Guys, got big prob...
My P5k DLX works fine except one thiny thing...
My mems wont go higher than 1060.
Got two pairs of sticks: Gskill Hz 6400 & Crucial AE.
No mather witch bios/div/Vmem/Vmch/timing/etc i`ll use, always gets that same - freez(setFSB)/no boot(bios).
Any idea ?
anyone knows if asus gonna have bios that support 1:1? can't boot on my 533 rams
why you say it doesn't have 1:1?
it supports 1:1Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekogre
but the mobo is not compatible with some 533 RAM modules
none of mine work at all :( >>> I have 8xsticks and none of them will boot at any setting)
which bios ver are u using? the only divider i saw is 667 and 800. no 533.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Shrekogre
really
0202, 0302
i have to try the latest one as well soon 0406 i think it's called
ok found the "bug"
any fsb below 295 it will not show 1:1. thats why all 533 stick can't boot. If using native 333fsb cpu I believe should have no problem.
i seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shrekogre
if you read my testing there is a strap change at 293MHz ;) and that's where the RAM Ratios change too :D
If you have access to another motherboard, reprogram the spd on your 533 sticks to support 667. Then they'll boot fine.
already tried on 1 stick and working fine. just that i wanna solve the problem on the mobo side. now i guess i have to flashQuote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
How incorrect?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I believe anand is wrong, because all other sites that reviewed p35 mainboards didnt show any relevant performance difference vs 965.
i have to test this but from initial findings the new chipset is certainly not faster in any way..........if anything it is a little slower BUT BUT BUT BUT i have to tweak the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of the bios first before i can say that comfortablyQuote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
Wesley is a great reviewer and i respect his opinion. I do think that the review is a little misleading because of the settings used and they are spelt out by the reviewer clearly, however, people are freaking lazy and they see the damn graphs like the guy in this thread :rolleyes: and post it as evidence
that's the problem here
but once again i would trust Anandtech's reviews more than any other site as long as the testing methodology is sound :) :)
hi
New bios P5K Deluxe on ftp Asus ;>
0311
:D :D :up:
I really enoy their reviews and technical articles. Yet sometimes their results are different than any other site ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
They made some interesting new tests with the kingston low latency dd3 memory which sounds methodically correct to me.
Keep in mind that SPI tests basically dont show differences.
do you think that i can do this mod also with Conductive paint ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
PLS PLS PLS can people not post P5K DLX bioses here as the thread is about P5K vanilla just in case someone accidentally flashes the wrong bios :(Quote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
0311.................added Command Rate 1T/2T
I know gravedigger said he was gonna post his results a couple of posts back but can anyone confirm if Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Desktop Memory works for the P5K. Just jumped on the deal since it was $85 after MIR at buy.com
Crucial doesn't show it as one of there 40 compatible memory upgrades for either of these ASUS P5K motherboards:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gepidae
ASUS P5K Motherboard
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=P5K
ASUS P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP Motherboard
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...e%2FWiFi%2DAP#
If there 2GB DDR2-1067 kit does then why wouldn't there 2GB DDR2-800 kit work?
Nopez, conductive paint will reduce resistance to zero, and that's not what you want!Quote:
Originally Posted by ztop
I've noticed that about a month ago they've stopped recommending PC2-6400 modules by default. You need to select this speed manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
Open that URL, then in the left-hand side column called "Refine my choices"
select [v] Speed:DDR2 PC2-6400/DDRII-800
Viola! BL2KIT12864AA804 DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.2V • SLI-Ready • 128Meg x 64
Is there and available.
@@ nelly , mat8861
Well, i can tell you ram is still working
So, i have only 2 sticks, and set to 2.25 in bios and memory setting to auto
now i will try 0311 bios
And pb with X6800 don't do more than 3800 approximatly stable and don't like high fsb too
maybe will be better with 6850.....
how does this board work with ballistix, 6400 and 8500 variants? 2x1gb of it.
Also what are this boards main advantages over the 965 dark etc.? From what I've read it seems to be better for clocking quad cores and penryn support?
Hi,which slot advised for the Creative X-fi?
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Varsos
How does one know if a certain ram can handle 1T; does it have to be in the published specifications?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
wow :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Varsos
hey anybody tested this yet... tsk tsk P35 is getting to be a good chipset.. :)
not until you test it but any D9Gxx with 2.2/2.3 should be able to do at least 400MHz 4-4-4-x on 680iQuote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
it will be interesting to see how far my Dominators can clock with 1T if P5K vanilla has the option
almost done with cubecase mod so benching will resume soon :D:D:D:D:D
BIOS 0414 is up on Asus site for P5K
i wonder if 1T is added to this bios
waiting for your test results.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
hey post some pics of your cubecase.. :D
basically one of these casesQuote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Yeong Yang YY-0221
http://www.modthebox.com/review241_1.shtml
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...se/index.shtml
with dual 120mm cut out for the rad at the back
i'll have to make a hole up the top for the tubing as there's not enough room :(
but i've already done the paintjob with silver hammered finish (front as well) but dull lol
just have to work out how to place watercooling in there and stick my 4xHDDs and DVDRW LOL
i don't have decent tools and this case is made out of thick metal.....would be nice if i could conver side panels to some sort of mash for better ambients but that'll have to wait another time i think
hmmm i like the sound dampening stuff they've installed here
http://www.burnoutpc.com/modules/sma...php?itemid=189
:( Nope, no 1TQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
damn :(Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
Tried the new 0311 BIOS on my P5K deluxe... 1T doesn't wanna play with my G.Skill 8500CL5D-GBHK.... might try to relax subtimings some more, but I'm on
5-5-5-15 2.4vdimm...400mhz:shrug:
In this fine topic you find the poor people with P5K Vanilla boards :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by paulzig
There is an excellent topic for P5K Deluxe:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199
You might find a quicker answer to your questions and finding there...
@dinos22: maybe a little change in the title of this thread could stop the confusion :D
Maybe I was just showing some pity for the poor folks with the vanilla boards:p:
congrats dinos22 , seems to be a amazing board !!! :up:
one question, what can u tell about South bridge temps ? ( seems to be an small heatsink)
ps: I ask because my p5ld2-se get alot of heat on south bridge ( old i945P hehe).
thanks in advice , i am planning to buy this board in the following month :cool:
all of the p5k's can get about 500fsb?
sry for bad english :)
So... from my point of view this motherboard is highly overclockable and modable which makes it an amazing board. However, I just happen to have D9GMH Team PC5300 and I saw a mention of the same RAM (or similar ) earlier in the thread so how is that working out... or do I need to order new RAM aswell?
hi mate the temps seem about the same as P5B Deluxe to me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouty
that depends on the CPUQuote:
Originally Posted by junioor
IF your CPU can do 500Mhz + than this board should be able to drive it without problems :)
Dinos, I'm really noob to overclocking. My last board that could OC was an ECS w/a PD 930 and BT. There are many more features in this P5K Vanilla than in my ECS which had VDimm, VCore, FSB, mem timings, Mem speed. I never even messed around with mem speed....
Can someone please give me some good advice that'll let me get a great OC with the specs in my sig? Maybe there is a guide somewhere? Thank you very much!
eva2000 has the most detailed threads on motherboards......he has tested the deluxe version which is very similar to P5K bios wise anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by v a d e R`
i would start there with his thread and copy his work.....
the basic idea behind OCing it to quickly find out the limits of your components and to decide which ones you want to have overclocked and by how much
so the components i am talking about are
CPU
Motherboard
GFX card
Memory
you need to test them each one by one and keep the other settings at stock so that there is no confusion or other components affecting your OCs
NOW you should probably start with RAM first with stock vdimm and timings and push the frequency with high RAM divider....hence when you boot to bios at stock you would select the 266MHz RAM divider which would run the RAM at same speed of the FSB (if your RAM is capable of such speeds that is). I would drop the CPU multiplier to 6x and set the CPU vcore to 1.35v.
Make sure you set the RAM timings too.......here is a screenshot with RAM timings (i would start with first 4xvalues as 5-5-5-15 and rest should be OK)
this screenshot also reviews the other important set of values relating to voltage of components and other things. As you can see there i tend to keep most of them Auto at first and set the vcore, vdimm and vMCH (northbridge)
I would disable Transaction Booster though just in case it puts too much pressure on the MCH or RAM
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3...stingsebs7.png
Once you start clocking the RAM past say 400MHz FSB you should probably go back to stock settings (266MHz FSB and choose a higher RAM divider). Ram divider is an option in bios called DRAM Frequency as per my bios screenshots on the first page. and select value higher than 266MHz
at some point the RAM will start playing up (Memtest Test#5 will start to error) and at that points it would be a good idea to start to increase Vdimm (RAM voltage) from stock to 1.9 and then more and more....don't push it past 2.3v as it seems your are looking for a 24/7 system now. Some RAM doesn't like voltage so your max could be 2.1v as well...
this is clearly too basic an explanation but it gives you an idea
after you figure out RAM.......start with CPU.........leave the RAM 1:1 ratio and start with 1.35v set in bios boot at 300MHz FSB to get to the looser strap (don't ask :D)
and download software called SetFSB, start with orthos priming (SmallFFTs) and druing orthos runs overclock the CPU in 5GHz FSB increments every 5 minutes or so until Orthos fails...........that will be a quick and dirty way to reach CPU max at stock volts.........obviously the overclock increases as you bump the vcore as long as there is sufficient cooling
(MAKE SURE YOU RUN YOUR RAM SETTINGS AT STABLE VOLTAGE AND FREQUENCIES)
you would have gained a fair bit knowledge on the board by now so start the board next for FSB test and drop CPU multi to 6x. You should know that NB voltage will have some influence on FSB once you start reaching the top clocks :)
THank you for all that! I have another question...what's a divider?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
xD
DRAM Frequency option in the screenshot aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by v a d e R`
what does it do >>> simple
it makes your RAM run at the same frequency as FSB or higher. IF you have great clocking RAM and want to max it out you just bump the divider so that you can reach higher clocks on the RAM without increasing the FSB too high
hence my 24/7 settings are
E6700 @1.31v
360*10=3600MHz
RAM is running at 540MHz 4-4-4-x 2.25v with 2:3 ratio/divider/RAM frequency
SO for crappy ram, it's be best to run @ 1:1 right?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
correctQuote:
Originally Posted by v a d e R`