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04-14-2008, 11:30 PM
Boyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

What you mean?! As soon as you hit 1.30vcore the vid option will work.

As for C1E function combined with Special Add it won't work below a certain voltage (when undervolting)... It assumes your cpu already has the minimal amount of vcore to work.

If you unhappy why don't you just use the older bios that suited your needs?:up:

o i see,thx you
04-15-2008, 01:02 AM
zsamz_

i been playin with gtl settings for a few hours
for those who have a few errors in memtest and c1 error
the right gtl setting can fix it

use clunk's charts;)
04-15-2008, 11:06 AM
nles

How would we know that we're actually using the best GTL settings?

back to the previous question, how to I extract my bios settings to post here so that you guys may give some opinion on it?

1 more question, I'm thinking of changing my GC cooler to thermalright HR-03. The GC slot ain't seperated quite far, will it be able to fit 2 HR-03?
04-15-2008, 11:40 AM
t_ski

Quote:

Originally Posted by nles

How would we know that we're actually using the best GTL settings?

He's talking about this chart:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2793

Match up your numbers and set the GTL by this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nles

back to the previous question, how to I extract my bios settings to post here so that you guys may give some opinion on it?

Find any of the posts in this thread that have their settings and print them, then copy the text and use code tags on them. You'll need to input the data by hand AFAIK. Just use your printed copy while you're in the BIOS and write down any settings that are different.
04-15-2008, 08:47 PM
Dimek

GTL REF is 67% for 65nm chips... What is "best" % for 45nm chips ??
04-15-2008, 08:59 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimek

GTL REF is 67% for 65nm chips... What is "best" % for 45nm chips ??

EXACTLY what I am wondering. Doing some tests, I am finding that some much lower values than recommended from the charts gets my rig more stable.:shrug:
04-16-2008, 01:30 AM
Origin_Unknown

i finally got my other 4*2gb kit back the other day so im going to try again over the next few days overclocking 4*2gb :D
04-16-2008, 03:47 AM
Hamilton

I had some strange things happen with GTLs after moving from air cooling to phase.
With Air cooling I had the GTLs at 120, 120, 120 with CPU VTT at 1.603V but when I switched to phase I can't boot into windows with GTLs Enabled... :shrug:
04-16-2008, 09:54 AM
Neon Knights

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Hey Boyu, thats perfectly normal in the new bios, stock volts they assume you don't need special add, only when the volts goes up a little that the special add becomes available...

Hello, this is my first Post here.I´m a German DFI X38 "User" with an Q6600
bought Pretested @3,6.

O.K. here´s what i have to say about the new Bios and VCore and enabled/disabled Special Add.

For those who want to use C1E and/with special add with the new Bios.

Steps: In Bios Highlight Vcore and then press ENTER ; By scrolling down choose temporarily a voltage over 1,3V ; Do not save&exit , then go to the special add Value because now it is chooseable and with enter & scrolling get the Voltage percentage you need ; Go Back to the vcore and choose with Enter & Scrolling the "Auto" value again. Now you´ll see that the
special add still hold the value......save & exit and that´s it:yepp:

Regards Neon Knights
04-16-2008, 09:59 AM
Effet

Be careful with VTT over 1,5v, the guys (or more specific Raja) over att Anandtech fried their qx9650.

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=428
04-16-2008, 01:21 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimek

GTL REF is 67% for 65nm chips... What is "best" % for 45nm chips ??

its whatever gets you stable
test n post results
04-16-2008, 02:32 PM
noobzed

someone can tell me the distance beetween the two holes of the NB please ?
http://www.exoid.com/wp-content/uplo...3/img_1136.JPG
i need the distance beetwen holes we see on this HS ..
04-16-2008, 10:48 PM
Dimek

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its whatever gets you stable
test n post results

Heh, great tip ;)

According to some tests and my own findings, for 45nm chips it's about 55-57% BUT it's my not for 100% sure...

Here's an example using E8200 on DFI P35 LanParty (link)

4200MHz - 8x525MHz, VTT 1.2V, VCORE 1,45V
GTL - AUTO - restart during OS load
GTL - 85/85/85 - restart during OS load
GTL - 76/75/76 - SuperPI 32M - error just after start
GTL - 73/72/73 - SuperPI 32M - error after loop1
GTL - 70/69/70 - SuperPI 32M - calculation done. Goin' further...

4304MHz - 8x538MHz, VTT 1.2V, VCORE 1,45V
GTL - 70/69/70 - SuperPI 32M - error jus after start
GTL - 69/68/69 - SuperPI 32M - error jus after start
GTL - 64/63/64 - SuperPI 32M - error after loop8
GTL - 62/61/62 - SuperPI 32M - error after loop12
GTL - 60/59/60 - SuperPI 32M - calculation done

I used it just for orientation to have good "start point"... then found stability and gave up OCing :rofl:
04-16-2008, 10:54 PM
zsamz_

i used faster method:rofl: :rofl:
i used memtest test 5
i set ram aggressive lots of settings i averaged 200 errors then i found settin with -20 errors n tweeked
every cpu n every board n ram react different
dual core cpus are verry forgiving on bad setting not quads
04-17-2008, 07:18 AM
Bikerz

My Q6600 GO stable at 3.8Ghz with a VVT of 1.44V
04-17-2008, 11:51 AM
t_ski
OK, I am really starting to hate this board. I can't seem to overclock it worth a damn. I've tried multiple settings from other users in this thread trying to get it to run @ 3.6 GHz, but most of the time it won't even boot. Best I can do is 3.0 GHz with about 30 minutes of Prime 95 stability before the system locks up and I have to reset.

Can someone look over my settings and try to make some suggestions? Here is all the hardware:
- Q6600 G0 L743 1.25v
- 2 x 1GB G.Skill PC2-6400 HZ's
- HIS HD3870X2
- Thermaltake ToughPower 850W
- 4 x 250 GB Seagate 7200.10's in raid 0/5
- Noctua NH-U12P heatsink
- Stock heatsinks on NB, SB and VGA
- BIOS 3-14
And here are the settings I used at 3.0 GHz:

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Disabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x CPU Clock.................................333 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.32500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.150V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.305V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Auto Enhance Addressing........................Auto T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................4 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................4 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................Auto REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................Auto Performance Level.........................Auto Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................Auto Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................Auto ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................Auto Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............Auto Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................Auto ALL PRE to Refresh........................Auto Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 156ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 534pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 601ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 868ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 156 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 467 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 445 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 434 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 868 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
04-17-2008, 12:30 PM
zsamz_

t_ski try 1.45"real" cpu vtt bump the voltage of cpu 1.45
set gtl manually to 130-120-100 should be good for 3,6
bump vdim to 2.2v
04-17-2008, 12:53 PM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

OK, I am really starting to hate this board.

join the club!
i bought this board thinking it would be sweet to OC but ive had nowt but troubles. i cant even get 3.5ghz stable (perhaps its the 500mhz im using on 8gb) so im stuck on 3.1ghz now (stock) :mad:

should of bought an asus
04-17-2008, 02:08 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

join the club!
i bought this board thinking it would be sweet to OC but ive had nowt but troubles. i cant even get 3.5ghz stable (perhaps its the 500mhz im using on 8gb) so im stuck on 3.1ghz now (stock) :mad:

should of bought an asus

you both need to play with glt settings n stop tryin the easy way:p:
dont use auto on nothin set it high then tighten when stable
04-17-2008, 02:20 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

OK, I am really starting to hate this board. I can't seem to overclock it worth a damn. I've tried multiple settings from other users in this thread trying to get it to run @ 3.6 GHz, but most of the time it won't even boot. Best I can do is 3.0 GHz with about 30 minutes of Prime 95 stability before the system locks up and I have to reset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

join the club!
i bought this board thinking it would be sweet to OC but ive had nowt but troubles. i cant even get 3.5ghz stable

Q6600 - 450x8, 2x1GB

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_a_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_b_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_c_s.jpg

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Enabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Auto Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x CPU Clock.................................450 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................8 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................2 Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 445pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 512ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 267ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 67 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 370 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 356 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 345 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 779 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
04-17-2008, 02:21 PM
Praz

Q6600 - 450x8, 2x2GB

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._prime_a_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._prime_b_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0x8xp_06_s.jpg

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Enabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Auto Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 1 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Enabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x CPU Clock.................................450 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 PCIE Clock................................100 MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.3875V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................1.985V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................3 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15 All Precharge to Act......................4 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................48 Performance Level.........................8 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................2 Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................4 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 456ps DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 534ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 289ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 400ps DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 367ps DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
04-17-2008, 03:11 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobzed

someone can tell me the distance beetween the two holes of the NB please ?
http://www.exoid.com/wp-content/uplo...3/img_1136.JPG
i need the distance beetwen holes we see on this HS ..

61mm
04-17-2008, 05:54 PM
t_ski

zsamz and Praz, thanks for the advice. I'll see if I can try them out later tonight.

Praz, that first list of settings (2 x 1GB) is not to far off from another list of settigns you posted earlier. I tried those without luck (wouldn't even boot). I think the new ones have one step up on vcore and Setup Shutdown Mode is changed, and about half of the ram timings are different, but that's about it. Where those a copy and paste from another run you did, or specific suggestions for my setup? Just curious - I'll still give them a shot. ;)

lol Actually I think it was the 2 x 2GB settings you just posted. They seem the same.

BTW, why do you suggest having all the PM stuff enabled? Doesn't that effect the stability a little?
04-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

zsamz and Praz, thanks for the advice. I'll see if I can try them out later tonight.

BTW, why do you suggest having all the PM stuff enabled? Doesn't that effect the stability a little?

When you reach full stability you should turn all to enabled, including vdroop, it won't affect your stability and will make your system run much longer in terms of degradation... :up:
04-17-2008, 06:35 PM
zanzabar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

When you reach full stability you should turn all to enabled, including vdroop, it won't affect your stability and will make your system run much longer in terms of degradation... :up:

no vdroop control is bad once u break into the 1.5V or higher

but when u enable the gtl settings then u can lowwer the voltages and optimize it (lowing the temps), then letting u oc more, and then back to the start
04-17-2008, 06:50 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

no vdroop control is bad once u break into the 1.5V or higher

but when u enable the gtl settings then u can lowwer the voltages and optimize it (lowing the temps), then letting u oc more, and then back to the start

hey zanz thanks for the input :up:

but with a q6600 in the 3600Mhz mark (that's what t_ski wanna achieve) we are nowhere near a 1.5v setup in fact this is more like a 24/7 low volt setup:

http://i28.tinypic.com/28lcjgk.png

* temp readings: closed case, dual rad w/ 7v fans, 24oC room.
04-17-2008, 06:57 PM
Praz

The screenshots were posted as a starting point. Depending on components, settings will have to be altered slightly from those shown.

Unless the operating system is configured for variable stepping (VCORE and frequency) PPM (EIST) does nothing so I very seldom disable it. In the two screenshots I posted C1E being enabled is only lowering the frequency when idle. If CPU VID Control is set to anything other then Auto the VCORE will stay where set.

On my 24/7 systems, regardless of overclock, C1E and VDroop Control is enabled and VCORE is set using Special Add. At idle both VCORE and frequency decrease. With VDroop enabled the CPU and power circuitry receive the benefits that VDroop brings. And the excessive voltage normally associated with Droop is never seen because the voltage is not increased until the CPU is loaded.

With the exception of all out benching there is no reason not to use this on a properly configured, stable system.
04-17-2008, 08:15 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

When you reach full stability you should turn all to enabled, including vdroop, it won't affect your stability and will make your system run much longer in terms of degradation... :up:

lol i already did
i get 0,01v droop
04-17-2008, 08:21 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

zsamz and Praz, thanks for the advice. I'll see if I can try them out later tonight.

Praz, that first list of settings (2 x 1GB) is not to far off from another list of settigns you posted earlier. I tried those without luck (wouldn't even boot). I think the new ones have one step up on vcore and Setup Shutdown Mode is changed, and about half of the ram timings are different, but that's about it. Where those a copy and paste from another run you did, or specific suggestions for my setup? Just curious - I'll still give them a shot. ;)

lol Actually I think it was the 2 x 2GB settings you just posted. They seem the same.

BTW, why do you suggest having all the PM stuff enabled? Doesn't that effect the stability a little?

you can't follow praz's setting to the T

every cpu is different every board is different
n he running promos chips on his you running d9
i got 6 sets of d9 every one reacts differen on the board
bump your voltages get stable set right gtl settings then you can think of lowering voltages
04-18-2008, 12:00 AM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

you both need to play with glt settings n stop tryin the easy way:p:
dont use auto on nothin set it high then tighten when stable

yeah - did that m8.

82
80
111

i think i had them as
04-18-2008, 09:05 AM
t_ski

OK, I'll give it another shot here in a little bit. Weird things have been happening here today though. Three times my PC locked up while browsing (twice while looking at the same webpage and once on a new site I don't normally go on). I ran two loops of MemTest 86 and everything was fine, then I ran Prime 95 small FFT's for about 15 minutes with no problems. Not sure if it's at all related to anything, especially since I'm at stock right now :(

BTW, I figured I'd post a MemSet screen shot with the ram timings. I plan on plugging these same timings in manually since you guys said to set everything and not use Auto.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1433/memsetlf6.jpg
04-18-2008, 01:26 PM
zanzabar

did u change settings and not apply, how are u at performance lvl 4
04-18-2008, 01:35 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

did u change settings and not apply, how are u at performance lvl 4

ya lol:eek:

btw ts_ski your trfc is high lower it i set mine @ 26 @ them speeds
write prechange is high too try 11
04-18-2008, 02:40 PM
deadman'sclick

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

OK, I'll give it another shot here in a little bit. Weird things have been happening here today though. Three times my PC locked up while browsing (twice while looking at the same webpage and once on a new site I don't normally go on). I ran two loops of MemTest 86 and everything was fine, then I ran Prime 95 small FFT's for about 15 minutes with no problems. Not sure if it's at all related to anything, especially since I'm at stock right now :(

BTW, I figured I'd post a MemSet screen shot with the ram timings. I plan on plugging these same timings in manually since you guys said to set everything and not use Auto.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1433/memsetlf6.jpg

to add on zsamz last post

tRRD should be more like 2 or 3 at those Mhz, 10 seems very high t_ski

also tRTP might do better on 3 for that speed
04-18-2008, 04:51 PM
t_ski

Thanks for the tips guys. All of the settings from MemSet were settings that the BIOS created when set to Auto, including Performance Level 4.

However, I got C1 errors when I tried to punch those settings in, even with Performance Level set to 6. Now that I think about it, I probably should have tried 7. :(

Anyway, I got a new toy in today to review, so I didn't spend much time playing with the OC. Maybe if I'm up late tonight I'll give it another shot. I already made notes of your latest suggestions, so I'll be sure to plug those in as well.
04-18-2008, 09:00 PM
t_ski

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OK, I messed with it some more, and it is definitely more stable now that it was before. Best I could do previously was 3.0 GHz for about 25 minutes. I just got done running prime95 @ 3.6 GHz for 30 minutes and stopped it without an error. Granted timings may be a little loose and voltages need to be tweaked, but at least I am getting there. Thanks a ton guys! :worship: :bows: :worship: :bows: :worship: :bows: :worship: :bows:

Updated info and screen shot included below... (I know - CPU temps are way too high. I'll be slapping on the EK Supreme here soon.)
04-19-2008, 01:37 AM
jcool

Erm... I'd step down a bit if I was you... close to 80C ain't healthy, plus it's not gonna be stable come summer...
So step down, improve your cooling or tweak GTL and VTT so you can lower Vcore ;)
04-19-2008, 02:32 AM
Origin_Unknown

lol after my rant yesterday i went home and *seem* to have 3.8ghz stable or at least for one memtest 86+ pass stable! (which takes about an hour with 8gb :lol: )
04-19-2008, 09:43 AM
OnDborder

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

set memory subtimings dont assume auto is ok
in fine delay set timings dont use auto use relaxed n work your way up

i found clunk's gtl setting way better board is more stable n more responsive but gets hotter
for 1.52 cpu vtt
gtl1:125
gtl2:120
gtl3: 95
heres another chart

You da man.
After reading that I shouldn't set the gtl's so high on my 8400, I set them for 86/88@1.453vtt, and gave it a run..
I'm a 3dm bencher, more or less, and I couldn't get the 01 to pass at 500x9. Well after adjusting the gtl's, 84051 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9366055 .

Thanks for the tips everyone.:up:
Now for the rest of the settings for a 8400.
04-19-2008, 09:49 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnDborder

You da man.
After reading that I shouldn't set the gtl's so high on my 8400, I set them for 86/88@1.453vtt, and gave it a run..
I'm a 3dm bencher, more or less, and I couldn't get the 01 to pass at 500x9. Well after adjusting the gtl's, 84051 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9366055 .

Thanks for the tips everyone.:up:
Now for the rest of the settings for a 8400.

1,453vtt is a bit high on that cpu i think
my e6850 only needs 1.5vtt for 500fsb
04-19-2008, 10:38 AM
OnDborder

1.56 on the vcore :eek:
Gotta do it while it's still cool here. The heat is right around the corner..
04-19-2008, 12:11 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnDborder

1.56 on the vcore :eek:
Gotta do it while it's still cool here. The heat is right around the corner..

i bit high for a 8400 i think lol
i dont change habits in the summertime:rofl:
i got a 10000btu portable ac close by:D
04-19-2008, 07:26 PM
t_ski

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Erm... I'd step down a bit if I was you... close to 80C ain't healthy, plus it's not gonna be stable come summer...
So step down, improve your cooling or tweak GTL and VTT so you can lower Vcore ;)

Oh, I know it's too high. That's why I only bothered to run it for 30 minutes. When I get my new "toy" up and running I'll slap the watercooling on this chip. I'm even thinking of lapping it. Between the watercooling and lapping I think I could possibly see close to a 15C drop compared to results between this heatsink, the EK and my old CPU which both were tested on.

And I do plan on tweaking the volts some, as well as the memory. Whenever I get a chance I'll run back through the BIOS and write down all the new settings and post them up.

Thanks again guys ;)

EDIT: OK, here are the new settings:

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Disabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x CPU Clock.................................400 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 <- DDR2-960 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.23V (BIOS shows 2.2v) SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.453V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................130 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................120 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................7 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................11 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 156ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 534pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 601ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 868ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 156 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 467 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 445 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 434 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 868 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

EDIT #2: Still not totally stable. Just went to run 3DM06 to compare one 3870x2 versus two @ 3.6 GHz, and the system locked up hard. I may have lost my 3DM06 install lol
04-20-2008, 06:45 AM
flexy

Bios Problem:

Guys,

i still have a problem with my bios, this is either the X48 bios (3/7) or the X38 bios from march.
My settings are all OCCT/Prime stable and tested, and i already cranked up voltages,VTT,NB and tried everything:

Even if my system is OCCT stable - at reboot or coming from standby the bios sometimes resets to default - or the PC just hangs at boot and doent boot at all.
This seems to happen only with certain multis/straps. (Right now i am at 8x447 and mem at 5:6 (530). Its really annoying since eg. i want to schedule tasks to wake up the computer from standby (backups!)....but there is a good chance it just hangs there.

What can i do? Any new bios out where this is solved? This is VERY annoying..i also wonder why it only happens at certain straps.
Maybe the bios "thinks" its overclocked too high (even if its stable). If we had a fixed bios this would be very, very great.

My NB voltage is already at 1.5, Vcore at 1.45, VTT at 1.42, VMem 2.2
04-20-2008, 09:20 AM
OnDborder

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

i bit high for a 8400 i think lol
i dont change habits in the summertime:rofl:
i got a 10000btu portable ac close by:D

For 24/7, ya. This is just for the benching. Having fun with this setup.:D
04-20-2008, 10:07 AM
deadman'sclick

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexy

Bios Problem:

Guys,

i still have a problem with my bios, this is either the X48 bios (3/7) or the X38 bios from march.
My settings are all OCCT/Prime stable and tested, and i already cranked up voltages,VTT,NB and tried everything:

Even if my system is OCCT stable - at reboot or coming from standby the bios sometimes resets to default - or the PC just hangs at boot and doent boot at all.
This seems to happen only with certain multis/straps. (Right now i am at 8x447 and mem at 5:6 (530). Its really annoying since eg. i want to schedule tasks to wake up the computer from standby (backups!)....but there is a good chance it just hangs there.

What can i do? Any new bios out where this is solved? This is VERY annoying..i also wonder why it only happens at certain straps.
Maybe the bios "thinks" its overclocked too high (even if its stable). If we had a fixed bios this would be very, very great.

My NB voltage is already at 1.5, Vcore at 1.45, VTT at 1.42, VMem 2.2

sounds like sumthings to tight, possibily to meny phase settings pulled in, or just slightly tight PL setting. e.g. where the PL is set close to its limit for the given timings fsb strap etc.
04-20-2008, 10:39 AM
Dark79

Is this board not compatible with the Razer Barracuda AC-1? I sold mine to a friend who has this board (against my recommendation) but the board just stays stuck in a reboot cycle. I put the card in my spare rig (Biostar matx S939) and it works just fine. Anyone else try this combo?
04-20-2008, 11:21 AM
zsamz_

flexy set gtl settings manually
play with settings till you good"use clunk's chart"
04-20-2008, 07:00 PM
zfactor

has anyone had success with flashing to the x48 bios with the china mobo yet? im tempted but done want to kill this thing
04-20-2008, 07:11 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by zfactor

has anyone had success with flashing to the x48 bios with the china mobo yet? im tempted but done want to kill this thing

Yes zsam and others have, some had taiwan others china but they have the same sst bios chip so it really doesn't matter.

I would grab a spare pre-flashed bios chip first just in case:
http://myworld.ebay.com/biosdepot/

Just specify the mobo manufacturer and model and the bios you want and they will do the rest :up:
04-20-2008, 07:13 PM
zfactor

hmmm when i first asked everyone told me not to do the flash if i have a china mobo.. they said it was fine with the taiwan ones though?? has this changed? it wasn't about the bios chip it was due to china ones having issues with nb voltage
04-20-2008, 07:35 PM
Jor3lBR

The worst that can happen is that you would have a X38 flashed to a X48 with a NB overvolting issue.

I used my X38 with the old bios (with the NB crazy volts) for very long time and that never set me back. You just have to set the NB and then go to BIOS and see the voltage repeating that till you get to the desired.

By no means I am encouraging you to do this, I'm just answering your questions.

My X38 still has the X38 bios and I never tried to flash because it's a 24/7 machine not OC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zfactor

hmmm when i first asked everyone told me not to do the flash if i have a china mobo.. they said it was fine with the taiwan ones though?? has this changed? it wasn't about the bios chip it was due to china ones having issues with nb voltage
04-20-2008, 08:42 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Yes zsam and others have, some had taiwan others china but they have the same sst bios chip so it really doesn't matter.

I would grab a spare pre-flashed bios chip first just in case:
http://myworld.ebay.com/biosdepot/

Just specify the mobo manufacturer and model and the bios you want and they will do the rest :up:

that bois chip guy is the best real cheap n real reliable i been dealin with him for 6 years now
04-20-2008, 08:44 PM
zfactor

so zsamz is there still a issue flashing the china mobo in your opinion? i just grabbed a bios chip from that seller
04-20-2008, 08:51 PM
zsamz_

its same bios just nb overvolting
x48 is just a higher bin in my opinion
i still waitin to see someone go over 555fsb on x38 or x48
04-20-2008, 09:04 PM
Jor3lBR

600fsb on the x38

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its same bios just nb overvolting
x48 is just a higher bin in my opinion
i still waitin to see someone go over 555fsb on x38 or x48

Hey Sam, acording to this EXPANDER guy he got 680+ on the P35 and 600+ on the X38:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=42

Would be nice to see some SS results.
04-20-2008, 09:04 PM
Rinaun

anyone else have corruption issues with this board and overclocking? I hit 3.8 with mine prime/occt stable for 2+ hours, and I still get some firefox crashes, and I cant install even brand new games because of copy issues. I'm starting to think its vista again causing issues. Any advice would be nice.
Q6600
2gbx2 pc28000 g.skill
04-20-2008, 09:06 PM
flexy

well yeah, i flashed the x48 bios. Just make 100% certain not to use the "wrong" NB voltage settings and always doeblecheck what bios reads. Not worth it imho, X38 bios is safer.

re: settings to tight, board sometimes wont boot:
Well my GTL is set manually - but i have all phases pulled it except one. Is there a recommendation what phases to pull in and what to leave at default?
04-20-2008, 10:11 PM
t_ski

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

EDIT #2: Still not totally stable. Just went to run 3DM06 to compare one 3870x2 versus two @ 3.6 GHz, and the system locked up hard. I may have lost my 3DM06 install lol

Well, I may have figured that out. Seems I could not load 3DM06 even @ stock, so I did some more looking. IDK if I installed the hotfix when I installed Vista, but I installed it tonight and 3DM06 loads and runs fine. I knew something was up when I could run 3D games but not 3DM06.

Any advice on where to tweak next?

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Disabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x CPU Clock.................................400 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 <- DDR2-960 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.23V (BIOS shows 2.2v) SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.453V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................130 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................120 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................7 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................11 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 156ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 534pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 601ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 868ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 156 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 467 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 445 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 434 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 868 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
04-20-2008, 10:19 PM
Rinaun

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

Well, I may have figured that out. Seems I could not load 3DM06 even @ stock, so I did some more looking. IDK if I installed the hotfix when I installed Vista, but I installed it tonight and 3DM06 loads and runs fine. I knew something was up when I could run 3D games but not 3DM06.

Any advice on where to tweak next?

Maybe try setting the commonclock setting in the"clock setting fine delay" options on all to More Aggressive and see if you get better 3dmarks? Just a stab, since I've heard it gives a bit of performance.
04-20-2008, 10:22 PM
t_ski

Thanks for the suggestion. Mind you, at this time I am mostly going for stability and lower voltages...
04-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Rinaun

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

Thanks for the suggestion. Mind you, at this time I am mostly going for stability and lower voltages...

Then deff. try adjusting the cpu special add value, as I've heard if you mix and match correctly you can use less vcore somewhere in these forums :D
04-21-2008, 05:12 AM
deadman'sclick

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

Well, I may have figured that out. Seems I could not load 3DM06 even @ stock, so I did some more looking. IDK if I installed the hotfix when I installed Vista, but I installed it tonight and 3DM06 loads and runs fine. I knew something was up when I could run 3D games but not 3DM06.

Any advice on where to tweak next?

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Disabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x CPU Clock.................................400 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 <- DDR2-960 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.23V (BIOS shows 2.2v) SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.453V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................130 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................120 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................7 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................11 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 156ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 534pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 601ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 868ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 156 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 467 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 445 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 434 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 868 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

try droping ure vtt right down to 1.35 for a 3.6Ghz setting on a quad. if u find the lower vtt is causing reboots just add more VID instead of more vtt.

looking at how uve set the GTL's looks a little off 130-120-100. from what i gather they are normally more simular. just sum examples, nothing to do with ure current vtt setting 95-94-94 or 96-95-96

try setting the MCH ODT latency on 2 , well between 1-3

also try enableing all the powersaving cpu settings, like on a stock mobo & then adding ure core cpu volts using the special vid add instead of the cpu vid control. saves pumping stable o/c voltage through the cpu when its doing nothing.
04-21-2008, 08:46 AM
eva2000
It's my first time using my new QX9650 L739A640 quad core (different to my QX9650 L739A644) on DFI LT X38 and was wondering what max FSB have you guys achieved and what voltages/bios settings it took to get there ?

So far seems 450FSB is the ceiling I have to work on breaking as 445FSB seems fine for QX9650 L739A640. Pretty low compared to my QX9650 L739A644 but on Asus Blitz Formula and Asus Blitz Extreme motherboard which hits 465-470FSB easy). But haven't used QX9650 L739A644 on DFI LT X38 yet.

Click on image for full screenshot
- QX9650 L739A640
- Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fan
Single Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...5s000ms_tn.png

Quad Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._avtime_tn.png

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DFI LP LT X38-T2R 1/11 Bios Settings PC Health Status Adjust CPU Temp: +4 CPU Feature - Thermal Management Control: Disabled - PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled - Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled - CIE Function: Disabled - Execute Disable Bit: Disabled - Virtualization Technology: Disabled - Core Multi-Processing: Enabled Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2 Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled CPU Clock Ratio: 9.0x - Target CPU Clock: 4005 N/2 Ratio: Disabled CPU Clock: 445 Boot Up Clock: AUTO DRAM Speed: 333/667 - Target DRAM Speed: 445 PCIE Clock: 100mhz PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled Voltage Settings CPU VID Control: 1.33750v CPU VID Special Add: AUTO DRAM Voltage Control: 2.23v SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51 NB Core Voltage: 1.555 CPU VTT Voltage: 1.280 Vcore Droop Control: Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong Host Slew Rate: Weak GTL REF Voltage Control: Enable x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 115 x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 107 x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 88 DRAM Timing - Enhance Data transmitting: FAST - Enhance Addressing: AUTO - T2 Dispatch: Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 1470 - DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 1 Control fine delay: 630 - DIMM 2 Control fine delay: 210 - Ch 1 Command fine delay: 980 Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 1330 - DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 3 Control fine delay: 630 - DIMM 4 Control fine delay: 210 - Ch 2 Command fine delay: 980 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING) CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4 RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4 Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9 All Precharge to Act: Auto REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30 Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 7 Read delay phase adjust: Enter Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto MCH ODT Latency: 2 Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 15 Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 12 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
04-21-2008, 10:37 AM
deadman'sclick

i can get to about 4.2Ghz on my e6750, stability becomes harder to pin after 4.1Ghz so low 500's fsb range. i wont go into voltages as their not to usefull for ure QX9650 eva2000.

@ t_ski, ignore my comment in the last post on GTL's as it seems by eva's post ure on the right track. i dont have to use them on my dualcore & had read in the thread prevously thats how the need to be set the on a 65nmquad.
i must have miss a bit on GTL's since then :) :shrug:
04-21-2008, 10:59 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Hey Sam, acording to this EXPANDER guy he got 680+ on the P35 and 600+ on the X38:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=42

Would be nice to see some SS results.

yup would be nice to see bios settings n sreenshot
is he the only one that went past 555fsb on this board lol i wish the overclocking gurus would try lol
04-21-2008, 11:58 AM
cstkl1

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

Well, I may have figured that out. Seems I could not load 3DM06 even @ stock, so I did some more looking. IDK if I installed the hotfix when I installed Vista, but I installed it tonight and 3DM06 loads and runs fine. I knew something was up when I could run 3D games but not 3DM06.

Any advice on where to tweak next?

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CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Disabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x CPU Clock.................................400 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 <- DDR2-960 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.23V (BIOS shows 2.2v) SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.453V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................130 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................120 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................7 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................11 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 156ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 534pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 601ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 868ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 156 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 467 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 445 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 434 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 868 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

hmm ure vtt is too high.
disable the vdroop.
reduce it to stock and leave the gtl at default.. wont make a difference at 400fsb for c2d
NB around 1.4 or less
and this is mainly ure prob on ure rams

Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4

try 6 6 5

better if u try this

set ure NB to 1.356
GTL on Auto
Ram Setting all of them on AUTO except
T2 Disaptch = Disabled
and Set 5-5-5-15

Performance Level Auto .. no need to mess with it... as it will choose the lowest. and equal for both channel
and Choose the 266/something strap to get 1000mhz

should be piece of cake at 2.23v
04-21-2008, 01:43 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstkl1

hmm ure vtt is too high.
disable the vdroop.
reduce it to stock and leave the gtl at default.. wont make a difference at 400fsb for c2d
NB around 1.4 or less
and this is mainly ure prob on ure rams

Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4

try 6 6 5

better if u try this

set ure NB to 1.356
GTL on Auto
Ram Setting all of them on AUTO except
T2 Disaptch = Disabled
and Set 5-5-5-15

Performance Level Auto .. no need to mess with it... as it will choose the lowest. and equal for both channel
and Choose the 266/something strap to get 1000mhz

should be piece of cake at 2.23v

advice for you
try not leaving settings on auto dont assume auto is good
some settings on auto is verry tight
best strap is 333/
04-21-2008, 06:20 PM
t_ski

OK, thanks. If I stay home during the day tomorrow I might do some more tweaking. I spent most of the afternoon getting everything installed in the new case I'm testing. LOL my desk is a mess... :slap:
04-21-2008, 08:18 PM
flexy

Clunk's GTL Ref Charts

Hello,

those values differ greatly from any older values i knew of.

Eg. for 1.40ish VTT i had 99 GTL ref first, and now according to Clunk's charts it's supposed to be 130.

i am on the X38 (flashed back to latest X38 bios) and Q6600. Can anyone explain the value eg. "130".....how does does this relate to 67% of 1.40 VTT?
04-21-2008, 08:21 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstkl1

hmm ure vtt is too high.
disable the vdroop.
reduce it to stock and leave the gtl at default.. wont make a difference at 400fsb for c2d
NB around 1.4 or less

whats wrong with 1.5NB and 1.45 VTT?
04-21-2008, 09:15 PM
flexy

x38_314bios:

The CPU Vcore -> Auto and "Auto Add" dont work right with this bios and CPU Power management.

In the *old* X111 bios if i set VCore to "Auto" and then "Vcore Special Add 108.74%" my CPU is idle/clocked down at 1.3V....and when its under load and multi 8x it goes up to 1.46Vcore, as desired.

With the new X38_314 bios if i set to "Auto" and "108% special add" the Vcore is always at 1.46, regardless whether CPU low-power (EIST) is on (6x multi) or under load 8x.
Better power-savings with old X38111 bios!
04-22-2008, 12:58 AM
cstkl1

afaik.

example on my e8500 on fsb500
on 8x500fsb
i have two choice

NB : 1.55
1.5vtt at NB GTL 80
Vdimm 2.23
NB : 1.63
or 1.2vtt at NB GTL 70
Vdimm 2.16
both at 4x1gb 1000mhz CL4 TRD 7(on both channels..)

forgot my e6850 setting last time but afaik the NB voltage and VTT wasnt that high for 400fsb

Memtest 5 pass stable.

as for the 1000mhz TRD 6 CL5 beats any strap 333/800...980..CL5 TRD 7
the cost is higher vdimm.
the advantage lower latencies and higher bandwidth.
the auto setting as no advantage in tweaking except for those 3 settings at 5-5-5 .. which will give a huge gain

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?sh...ost&p=16908285
04-22-2008, 02:31 AM
flexy

i am really confused now.

On Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3129&p=13
they claim you need 1.6 VTT for 440-475FSB....1.6VTT sounds insane for me. I am at 442 FSB right now and "only" 1.42 VTT.

I use to keep VTT slightly under VCore, and also on Air and in general i try to keep everything at or below 1.45V...NB is at 1.5tho.
I dont think i would ever go as high as 1.6VTT
04-22-2008, 05:56 AM
deadman'sclick

ive just finished testing at fsb488 x8 with vtt set at 1.39 , did a 9 hour run of dualprime64 last night night, also totally memtest stable & occt 2hour test stable.

for my cpu its vtt needs go a bit like this:

fsb450x8 1.32-1.33

fsb475x8 1.35-1.37

fsb500x8 1.4-1.42

all without gtl's being set.
04-22-2008, 07:30 AM
Hamilton

Well, I was running my VTT at 1.603V to be stable at 455MHz with a Q9450 but after I read that you'll kill a 45nm CPU quite fast when you run the VTT that high I lowered it to 1.438V and my best stable FSB is now 440MHz. :(
04-22-2008, 08:01 AM
Bikerz

My Q6600 GO needs:

1.424V VVT for 3.7Ghz
1.440V VVT for 3.8Ghz
04-22-2008, 09:22 AM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamilton

Well, I was running my VTT at 1.603V to be stable at 455MHz with a Q9450 but after I read that you'll kill a 45nm CPU quite fast when you run the VTT that high I lowered it to 1.438V and my best stable FSB is now 440MHz. :(

It wouldnt even need extremely OC knowledge to assume that 1.6 is surely a dangerous voltage...maybe those guys at the AT review used hardcore water-cooling..but from my months and months of reading about this board and overclocking G0 i never saw any similar high VTTs mentioned as requirement. And i mean i have proof here running 444 at 1.42...so something cannot be right with that AT article.

The other thing, that clunk GTL ref chart now is totally above my head since i have no idea how he got those values when all other reviews tests mention values like 99,98,96.....and the clunk chart is the only one with very, very high GTL Ref values w/o explanation how he gets them. Eg. "130" <-???

G.
04-22-2008, 09:23 AM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikerz

My Q6600 GO needs:

1.424V VVT for 3.7Ghz
1.440V VVT for 3.8Ghz

I think it really depends on the FSB speed only.
04-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexy

The other thing, that clunk GTL ref chart now is totally above my head since i have no idea how he got those values when all other reviews tests mention values like 99,98,96.....and the clunk chart is the only one with very, very high GTL Ref values w/o explanation how he gets them. Eg. "130" <-???

G.

They're all right. The VTT/GTL voltage tables are different for the P35 and X38/48 boards. There are also different tables depending on if a 65nm or 45nm processor is being used.
04-22-2008, 11:09 AM
Hamilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

They're all right. The VTT/GTL voltage tables are different for the P35 and X38/48 boards. There are also different tables depending on if a 65nm or 45nm processor is being used.

You're right about that. I tried using the GTL values from the AT review of the DFI LT P35-T2R with my X38-T2R and Q9450 but couldn't even boot windows with the same clocks that would run quite ok with GTLs disabled.

Just today I began trying a little with GTLs again and set them to 75 75 80 and I got Supreme Commander that would crash every time when loading a savegame to play nicely for 30mins before I had to get to work. :)

Currently running at 440x8 with CPU VID 1.45V, CPU VTT 1.438V, NB 1.677V, DDR2 2.10V.
04-22-2008, 11:15 AM
rioja

Is it true that I may monitor RPM and adjust speed for only 3 fans: CPU, NB and chassis?!
I can't believe in it :confused:
Also, is there any option to shutdown PC if RPM will be low? I can't find this option too, only shutdown if CPU temp above smth.
04-22-2008, 02:35 PM
Neuuubeh

c1..

Hi guys,

finally got all my hardware in and plugged it all in.. However, Im getting that dreaded C1 Error. I'm using twin Cellshock pc2-6400, CS2221041 ram modules. Tried both of them, tried every one single in the different slots, cleaning the CMOS, removing the battery.. still C1

My question would be, can you tell me some cheapo RAM module/s (dont really care if its only 1 stick) that are known to run with no problems? I guess if I once manage to boot and set vdimm and timings, I should be able to run the Cellshock just fine..

thanks :X really frustrating :(

Nick
04-22-2008, 04:38 PM
t_ski

It's not necessarily cheap, but my G. Skill 2GBHZ boot up fine with this mobo.
04-22-2008, 06:30 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuuubeh

Hi guys,

finally got all my hardware in and plugged it all in.. However, Im getting that dreaded C1 Error. I'm using twin Cellshock pc2-6400, CS2221041 ram modules. Tried both of them, tried every one single in the different slots, cleaning the CMOS, removing the battery.. still C1

My question would be, can you tell me some cheapo RAM module/s (dont really care if its only 1 stick) that are known to run with no problems? I guess if I once manage to boot and set vdimm and timings, I should be able to run the Cellshock just fine..

thanks :X really frustrating :(

Nick

only problem i have is with my d9gkx sticks mushkin and kingston
everything else boots fine
04-22-2008, 09:23 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

They're all right. The VTT/GTL voltage tables are different for the P35 and X38/48 boards. There are also different tables depending on if a 65nm or 45nm processor is being used.

so you're saying that for the X38/X48, Q6600 G0 and 1.42VTT 130,120,100 is ok and the 99,98,96 are the wrong ones?
04-22-2008, 11:07 PM
Bikerz

[QUOTE=rioja;2938477]Is it true that I may monitor RPM and adjust speed for only 3 fans: CPU, NB and chassis?!
I can't believe in it :confused:
[QUOTE]

I cant even get that to work. How do you?:confused:
04-22-2008, 11:56 PM
Cptn Vortex

Question all. I have been using this board for a few months now, and all has been, well OK. First off, mine doesnt play nice with my E3110. No matter what I do it wont go over 4.0GHZ. Put that aside temps are great.

I put my old X3210 G0 in today, to see what she can do in this board. So far, 3.6GHZ stable at 1.36V. NICE. However, my Mosfet temps SKYROCKETED. They I am running the same FSB, NBv, and such, but I was getting 46 MAX with the dualcore, and now it hit over 86 before I stoped stressing. I touched to see if maybe it was a wonky sensor, and nearly burnt myself it was so hot! Anyone have a theory as to why a simple CPU change has resulted in such unhappy Mosfets?!?!

I think I got a darn good G0.... 2.13 stock, 3.6GHZ 1.36V, 1.21 VTT. Default GTLs
04-23-2008, 12:06 AM
zanzabar

quads take more amps than duals so the pwm pushes more current hence its hotter
04-23-2008, 12:12 AM
Cptn Vortex

Talk about smokin hot. How on earth am I going to mount a fan to cool that......

Anyone know of some Mosfet blocks for the X38 DFI? If not waterblock, then something else?
04-23-2008, 12:58 AM
zsamz_

i got an itch to get a new videocard
lookin for the one that plays nice on this board
8800gt or 3870 n which brand ?ps i boycot visiontek n gigabut
04-23-2008, 01:16 AM
Cptn Vortex

9800GTX dood! EVGA of course. Seen them as low as $309
04-23-2008, 01:26 AM
zanzabar

did u see the 3850 x2, u can get that for $300 on newegg

its an asus though and u dont like gigabyte and asus owns gigabyte
04-23-2008, 02:12 AM
rioja

Quote:

I cant even get that to work. How do you?:confused:

what do u mean? those 3 connectors work fine, but it's not enough (note that cpu fan required 4pin). so in fact i have only 2 connectors for adjusting and monitoring, and one more only for monitoring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn Vortex

Talk about smokin hot. How on earth am I going to mount a fan to cool that......

Anyone know of some Mosfet blocks for the X38 DFI? If not waterblock, then something else?

I know only MIPS waterblock, have it ordered already
04-23-2008, 06:24 AM
Jor3lBR

DFI X38, X48 and P35 PWM Block

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn Vortex

Talk about smokin hot. How on earth am I going to mount a fan to cool that......

Anyone know of some Mosfet blocks for the X38 DFI? If not waterblock, then something else?

Yes we are on the verge of getting them next week: :up:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182949
04-23-2008, 09:33 AM
OnDborder

My 2 HIS 3870's bench real good on this board. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9366055

Are you looking to bench or game?
04-23-2008, 10:25 AM
Bikerz

Quote:

Originally Posted by rioja

what do u mean? those 3 connectors work fine, but it's not enough (note that cpu fan required 4pin). so in fact i have only 2 connectors for adjusting and monitoring, and one more only for monitoring.

I know only MIPS waterblock, have it ordered already

How do u set the rpm of fans plugged into board? Are you using speefan? (It doesnt work with Vista 64 so cant get it to work) Any ideas?
04-23-2008, 11:49 AM
FlimFlam00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Yes we are on the verge of getting them next week: :up:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182949

9800 GTX = $279:up: :eek:

BFG Tech BFGE98512GTXE GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$329.99 - $30.00MIR - $20.00 promo code "BG98TX" = $279.99 with $7.59 shipping
Promo Expires on 4/25/08

Edit: ooops, this is for Newegg. ;-)
04-23-2008, 12:27 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnDborder

My 2 HIS 3870's bench real good on this board. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9366055

Are you looking to bench or game?

i dont care for bench
n i want 1 with good cooler that plays nice with this board
those ncix weekly sales reall tempting
04-23-2008, 12:52 PM
Neuuubeh

Thanks a lot for the tips guys, got my new rig up and running :D. Some mild overclocks atm, everything nice and cool, waiting on my TRUE to play a bit more :). Gotta get some cooling for the RAM as well, a bit afraid to clock them higher without some considerable airflow above them. My previous ddr1 (:) ) never ever got so hot :x

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

i dont care for bench
n i want 1 with good cooler that plays nice with this board
those ncix weekly sales reall tempting

I kinda like the 9800gtx, its really quiet and cool.. No idea about the 8800gt's tho, never owned one.

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