X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Ah ok, my mistake, thought there was. Someone has got to know how to get 600 MHz stable with D9 modules on that board. Most D9's will do it, but some (older D9) sometimes struggles to get 600 MHz stable. There is a chance your kit falls into this category.

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Hmm, I don't recall having too many problems with D9-based modules on my Rampage'd Maximus Formula, I got my G.Skill 8000 C4 kit up to 666MHz C5 1M stable on the 2:3 divider.

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Originally Posted by Ghostleader

Nice work, just feed that NB and things starts to happens, that´s the X48 way :yepp:

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Think what will happens when our swedish winter come. :D

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Originally Posted by greg.m

Rampage Formula FTW :rofl::rofl:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/594/480x9.jpg

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Very nice overclock you've got there greg.m.:up:

If I use 67x in cpu and nb this does not produce hurts in my Motheboard RAmpage formula x48



Fsb TT 1.36bios 1.300real Cpugtll 67x nbgtll 67x


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It he is says this 0,878cpu gtll 1/2 0,875 cpu gtll 0/3 0,873 nb gtll
If I want to use stablly this fsb tt To need to use 67x?

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Very nice overclock you've got there greg.m.:up:

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Thamk you my friend:)

Have got in your hands something good(Q9650:))?

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Originally Posted by greg.m

Thamk you my friend:)

Have got in your hands something good(Q9650:))?

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No, no luck. I hope to get one from the new batch that's mentioned in the Q9650 thread a while ago by a German guy. Maybe this batch is going to be available in Belgium too. I asked my computer parts dealer to look for that batch.

I reseated my CPU last week but it didn't help to get my Q9450 Linx stable again at 8 X 465MHz. It sucks and I hope to have a Q9650 really soon to have some fun again.

Nice cooling blocks that you've got there.:up:

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Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

Hmm, I don't recall having too many problems with D9-based modules on my Rampage'd Maximus Formula, I got my G.Skill 8000 C4 kit up to 666MHz C5 1M stable on the 2:3 divider.

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One set of ballistix tracers 800, can't do 600mhz.

575 is stable around 2.2 - 2.25v, 600 is no go even at 2.5v.

Maybe it's just a degraded set of d9, maybe it's me who can't stable them, but with old promos I haven't got such problems.

And about testing I'm testing memory using Memtest #5 test, at least 30 loops.

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Originally Posted by Mikefra2008

If I use 67x in cpu and nb this does not produce hurts in my Motheboard RAmpage formula x48



Fsb TT 1.36bios 1.300real Cpugtll 67x nbgtll 67x


http://translate.google.com/translat...dpost11%2ehtml


It he is says this 0,878cpu gtll 1/2 0,875 cpu gtll 0/3 0,873 nb gtll
If I want to use stablly this fsb tt To need to use 67x?

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Use whatever CPU GTL that works good for you. If your CPU likes 0.67X there is no reason not to use it.

Has anyone tried replacing factory mch/ich cooling with 2x thermalright hr-05?

Yoh Alien-Grey,
I am glad that you are back on stage again!:D
If I can help you out about buying a Q9650 on the german market just send me an e-mail:D

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh Alien-Grey,
I am glad that your are back on stage again!:D
If I can help you out about buying a Q9650 on the german market just send me an e-mail:D

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Here's some good news. I'm running stable again at 8 X 465MHz with DDR 1239MHz and tRD 6. The CPU Voltage is the same as it was before at 1.36250V.:D

The problem was the DRAM slots. I'm using the white slots now, B1 and B2 with DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B delayed with 50ps. This combination seems to work very well with the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI Memory.:up:

I still don't understand how changing to the other slots fixes the stability problems with Linx.:confused:

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

No, no luck. I hope to get one from the new batch that's mentioned in the Q9650 thread a while ago by a German guy. Maybe this batch is going to be available in Belgium too. I asked my computer parts dealer to look for that batch.

I reseated my CPU last week but it didn't help to get my Q9450 Linx stable again at 8 X 465MHz. It sucks and I hope to have a Q9650 really soon to have some fun again.

Nice cooling blocks that you've got there.:up:

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Thanx mate. I hope youll get a good Q9650 soon so ill have someone to share and compare... i feel so lonely :D

Btw i read your last post and thats good news ill give the white slots a try to see what happens

Yoh guys,
I know I am having a DFI DK now but you wouldn´t cut me out of this thread, wouldn´t you.
Anyway- how do you like the data through put?

http://www.abload.de/img/fsb490588ram-pl8yghh.png

P.S. Alien-Grey,
I will check if I can get you the Q9650!

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh guys,
I know I am having a DFI DK now but you wouldn´t cut me out of this thread, wouldn´t you.
Anyway- how do you like the data through put?

http://www.abload.de/img/fsb490588ram-pl8yghh.png

P.S. Alien-Grey,
I will check if I can get you the Q9650!

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Nice, very nice.:up:

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh guys,
I know I am having a DFI DK now but you wouldn´t cut me out of this thread, wouldn´t you.
Anyway- how do you like the data through put?

http://www.abload.de/img/fsb490588ram-pl8yghh.png

P.S. Alien-Grey,
I will check if I can get you the Q9650!

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Good work mate :up:

Glad to see you got it all setup how you wanted it! I take it you managed to get your head around the bios settings then :D

Thank you guys for your greatings.
Well, It took a little time to get my head around all these bios options.
But there ist still one thing that bothers me- the 400 strap won´t work as well as I supposed. My intension was to oc my G.Skills over 1200 Mhz driving a 465 MHz fsb.
I will open up a question in the DFI thread before the admin. is slaping me in the head.

What you mean with it doesn't work as you supposed? Instabilities or what?

BTW: MCH voltage is key to stability with quad and 600+ mem.

Yes, that´s what I meant. I´ve got freezes and BSODths.

As I said in my last post MCH voltage is the key to get stability, imo you will need to use at least 1.55-1.6v to get it stable.

It might surprise you but the P45 does not need so much voltage like the x48 for quads. I needed 1.39 Volts to the nb for 490 MHz FBS. Just see:

http://www.abload.de/img/prime95custom20stundeng8aw.jpg

No I'm not surprised, but X48 has its own rules.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

It might surprise you but the P45 does not need so much voltage like the x48 for quads. I needed 1.39 Volts to the nb for 490 MHz FBS. Just see:

http://www.abload.de/img/prime95custom20stundeng8aw.jpg

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1.39v on P45 is roughly the equivalent of ~1.6-1.65v on an X48 so I'm not surprised at all with the voltage you need on the P45.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

It might surprise you but the P45 does not need so much voltage like the x48 for quads. I needed 1.39 Volts to the nb for 490 MHz FBS. Just see:

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Is 1.39V on the NB already to high for the P45 chipset? I see in your picture that it shows up in red.:confused:

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Is 1.39V on the NB already to high for the P45 chipset? I see in your picture that it shows up in red.:confused:

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Default Vnb on P45 is 1.10V, so ~1.4V IS quite high but no more than 1.6v is quite high for an X48 NB.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Is 1.39V on the NB already to high for the P45 chipset? I see in your picture that it shows up in red.:confused:

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I agree with mikeyakame that ~1.4v is pretty high to the nb but I don´t think it is to much English for the 24/7 use.
The voltage is shown up red because the program "smart guardian" does so by using more than 1.35v. That doesn´t mean it will demage your nb immediately, it is just a warning for the user.

If the cooling is adequate for 1.4v then I don't see the problem, I've run 1.6v for months in the past and it never bothred my X48 chipset as long as I kept temps sane, same goes for P45s. Asus P5Q Deluxe for example has atrocious NB cooling and that board doesnt like more than 1.34V or so. I've got a Thermalright HR-05 sli/ifx on my DFI X48 board and even when running ~1.5v my temps are 37-38c idle, so NB voltage is dependent on temps being kept stable.

hello~ i am a newbie, just got a q9650 with rampage formula

but there is a problem, i have 4hdd where 3hdd have vista in it

so i found that if i need to boot correctly, i must disable the 2 hdd drive in the boot drive selection

otherwise i get nothing showed when i power on the computer

now the problem is, when i try to overclock, no matter whats the setting is, i can boot after the first time modification but not the second time

like sometime i can boot up with 467*9 and i want to set the voltage lower so i enter the bios again, when i set the voltage lower i cant boot up

so i thought maybe the voltage is not enough, then i clear cmos and re-do the above thing, on the second modification, i change nothing in the bios

but it just cant boot up, so whats the problem?

i even tried disabling the other sata drives except my main hdd, putting 1.42v for vcore, 1.45 for nb etc

so i thing the voltage should be enough, i just cant figure out why the bios only boot once

also is there some example of q9650 with a rampage formula?

i just know how to set vcore, nb v, pll and vtt, want to learn more

thanks

The saying goes something like "Only jump in the deep end of a pool if you aren't going to drown!". Best thing to do is start in shallow waters and slowly progress to the deepest of waters as you get better until you master the waters that once mastered you.

Same goes for overclocking if you are a newcomer, those of us who like to help out the new guys all started at the shallow end and gradually learnt to swim and now we are the kings of our pools :D

All boards, cpus and memory behave differently so you need to get a feel for your hardware and more importantly figure out what your baseline voltages and settings should be. What works for one person with similar hardware may not work at all for you, and this is a testament to how small manufacturing flaws give you big headaches!

Your baseline needs to have Vcore, Vnb, Vsb, CPU GTL, NB GTL, Vtt, CPU Clk Skew, NB Clk Skew, DRAM Freq, and Mem Divider.

400Mhz FSB is a perfect frequency to setup your baseline on, after you've of course made sure it all works at 333mhz :)

All voltages should work at either nearly default, or slightly raised at this FSB and should need small adjustments at most to give consistent error free results.

400FSB, I'd use 1066mhz or 1200mhz DDR2 freq (if mem clocks to 1200 else 1066), and if 2GB sticks, 5-5-5-15-6-3-55-3 (i think it is, tRTP = 3, tRFC = 55, tRRD = 3), and default mem voltage on sticks.
CPU GTL should be 0.67x, NB GTL 0.67x, Vtt = ~1.14-1.16v, Vcore = VID (Auto, ~1.24v), Vnb = ~1.30-1.35V, Common PL (perf level) = 9, AI Clock Twister = Auto, Vsb = ~1.10v, Vsb_pll = 1.55V, Vcpu_pll = 1.50v, CPU Clk Skew = Normal, NB Clk Skew = Normal.

From here you work your way up FSB in steps, I'd go at steps from 400 -> 422 -> 438-440 -> 452 -> 466. While setting up FSB frequency and voltage change CPU multiplier to 6 or 7x so Vcore is isolated and CPU will post/work stable at default or slightly higher voltage. Vnb should always be set higher than you are aiming for, a good 0.04-0.06v above Nominal required voltage will give you headroom for Performance Level, and lowers the chance of Vnb being too low or refusing to post / locking during post. After you've got FSB + DRAM freq/timings stable, you can play with Perf. Level, at 400FSB PL = ~7 is a good start point, 420 - 440 FSB PL = ~8 , 450 - 480FSB PL = ~9, and go lower once Vnb is stable and no errops in tests. PL = ~5 is general limit at 400, PL = 6 is general limit for 420-450, PL = 7, 450 - 500. Rest depends on Vnb, NB temps, DRAM stick quality, motherboard manufacturing flaws, etc.

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

The saying goes something like "Only jump in the deep end of a pool if you aren't going to drown!". Best thing to do is start in shallow waters and slowly progress to the deepest of waters as you get better until you master the waters that once mastered you.

Same goes for overclocking if you are a newcomer, those of us who like to help out the new guys all started at the shallow end and gradually learnt to swim and now we are the kings of our pools :D

All boards, cpus and memory behave differently so you need to get a feel for your hardware and more importantly figure out what your baseline voltages and settings should be. What works for one person with similar hardware may not work at all for you, and this is a testament to how small manufacturing flaws give you big headaches!

Your baseline needs to have Vcore, Vnb, Vsb, CPU GTL, NB GTL, Vtt, CPU Clk Skew, NB Clk Skew, DRAM Freq, and Mem Divider.

400Mhz FSB is a perfect frequency to setup your baseline on, after you've of course made sure it all works at 333mhz :)

All voltages should work at either nearly default, or slightly raised at this FSB and should need small adjustments at most to give consistent error free results.

400FSB, I'd use 1066mhz or 1200mhz DDR2 freq (if mem clocks to 1200 else 1066), and if 2GB sticks, 5-5-5-15-6-3-55-3 (i think it is, tRTP = 3, tRFC = 55, tRRD = 3), and default mem voltage on sticks.
CPU GTL should be 0.67x, NB GTL 0.67x, Vtt = ~1.14-1.16v, Vcore = VID (Auto, ~1.24v), Vnb = ~1.30-1.35V, Common PL (perf level) = 9, AI Clock Twister = Auto, Vsb = ~1.10v, Vsb_pll = 1.55V, Vcpu_pll = 1.50v, CPU Clk Skew = Normal, NB Clk Skew = Normal.

From here you work your way up FSB in steps, I'd go at steps from 400 -> 422 -> 438-440 -> 452 -> 466. While setting up FSB frequency and voltage change CPU multiplier to 6 or 7x so Vcore is isolated and CPU will post/work stable at default or slightly higher voltage. Vnb should always be set higher than you are aiming for, a good 0.04-0.06v above Nominal required voltage will give you headroom for Performance Level, and lowers the chance of Vnb being too low or refusing to post / locking during post. After you've got FSB + DRAM freq/timings stable, you can play with Perf. Level, at 400FSB PL = ~7 is a good start point, 420 - 440 FSB PL = ~8 , 450 - 480FSB PL = ~9, and go lower once Vnb is stable and no errops in tests. PL = ~5 is general limit at 400, PL = 6 is general limit for 420-450, PL = 7, 450 - 500. Rest depends on Vnb, NB temps, DRAM stick quality, motherboard manufacturing flaws, etc.

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thanks so much for helping me

but the problem is not how deep or how hard i overclock

is like what i said, i have a setting which can boot up at first

and then when i enter the bios for second time, even i changed nothing, it doesnt boot up

even i just raise i very little step in fsb and putting a lot of voltage too

i am wondering if its my hdd problem or what

since i have 3 hdd with vista on it and dont know if it has problem on the boot priority

but i have tried to disabled all other sata drives and left 1 hdd only, but the problem continue

now i knew whats the problem

i tried clear cmos and get post on first time, i enter bios and CHANGE NOTHING , and select save and reboot

then i got no post, the lcd poster shows "EN SETUP", it shows "EN SETUP" when i enter bios and it never shut down even the computer reboot

i tried 0902 bios and 0803 bios, tried putting only 1 stick of ram in 4 different slots, tried plugging only 1 sata hdd

so is my mobo broken?

thanks

Yoh Mikeyakame,
you mentioned a point about the PL where I am still wondering even being able "to swim in deeper waters and avoiding the contact to seewasps". :cool:
There is a relation between the PL and the fsb you want to run, that´s for sure.
The AnandTech site makes it really clear: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1
But the point I am still wondering about is if I can take the AnandTech. article just for my P45 chipset. Right now I am running a fsb of 470 MHz and a PL of 8. If I lower the PL to 7 my system wouldn´t start.
If I had a X48 Chipset the formular says I could because: [tRD-(tCL/N)]>[x/N]
N= FSB-RAM-Divider => 7-(5/4)= 5.75 is greater than 2.75/(5/4)=2,2
2.75 is for fsb> 466 MHz.
Is it possible to run a PL of 8 together with a fsb of 470 by increasing the vnb?
My vnb right now is 1.2950v (=1,26v real), CPU VTT is 1.23v.
Do you think I should just force the PL of 7 increasing the vnb?

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh Mikeyakame,
you mentioned a point about the PL where I am still wondering even being able "to swim in deeper waters and avoiding the contact to seewasps". :cool:
There is a relation between the PL and the fsb you want to run, that´s for sure.
The AnandTech site makes it really clear: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1
But the point I am still wondering about is if I can take the AnandTech. article just for my P45 chipset. Right now I am running a fsb of 470 MHz and a PL of 8. If I lower the PL to 7 my system wouldn´t start.
If I had a X48 Chipset the formular says I could because: [tRD-(tCL/N)]>[x/N]
N= FSB-RAM-Divider => 7-(5/4)= 5.75 is greater than 2.75/(5/4)=2,2
2.75 is for fsb> 466 MHz.
Is it possible to run a PL of 8 together with a fsb of 470 by increasing the vnb?
My vnb right now is 1.2950v (=1,26v real), CPU VTT is 1.23v.
Do you think I should just force the PL of 7 increasing the vnb?

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Well considering I was running PL7 with 2gb sticks and dram clk skews at cha d50ps, chb norm with ~1.55v Vnb at 481fsb until i got sick of fixing it up everytime bios broke the clock skews but it was stable and no problems at all! the problem was the rf bios screwing up mchbar registers.

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Originally Posted by derek0309hk

now i knew whats the problem

i tried clear cmos and get post on first time, i enter bios and CHANGE NOTHING , and select save and reboot

then i got no post, the lcd poster shows "EN SETUP", it shows "EN SETUP" when i enter bios and it never shut down even the computer reboot

i tried 0902 bios and 0803 bios, tried putting only 1 stick of ram in 4 different slots, tried plugging only 1 sata hdd

so is my mobo broken?

thanks

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Maybe the flash went wrong.:shrug:

Disconnect and remove everything that you don't need to post your board. Use one stick of RAM.

Remove the power cable from your PSU and remove the battery from the board. Push the Clear CMOS button for 1 minute and leave the board without power for at least a half an hour.

Power up your board and hit F2 to load setup defaults. Restart your computer and enter BIOS Setup. Flash your board and shut it down.

Do a Clear CMOS again after flashing your board and Load Setup Defaults again afterwards.

All you can do now is hope that the problem is gone.:D

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

Well considering I was running PL7 with 2gb sticks and dram clk skews at cha d50ps, chb norm with ~1.55v Vnb at 481fsb until i got sick of fixing it up everytime bios broke the clock skews but it was stable and no problems at all! the problem was the rf bios screwing up mchbar registers.

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I think that he means that it doesn't work on his DFI board. If I'm not mistaken this is a problem with the P45 Chipset and the Maximus II has that problem too.:shrug:

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

I think that he means that it doesn't work on his DFI board. If I'm not mistaken this is a problem with the P45 Chipset and the Maximus II has that problem too.:shrug:

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You have got the point. The question is if I can use this calculation for my p45 chip. I think these values are for the X48 only.
However is it possible to run a lower PL (7 instead of 8) by increasing the nb voltage and maybe the fsb vtt?:confused: (please don´t tell me "just try"- I am sick to set the jumper back and forward adjusting all my bios options again and again each time I try and the system won´t f****** start).

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Maybe the flash went wrong.:shrug:

Disconnect and remove everything that you don't need to post your board. Use one stick of RAM.

Remove the power cable from your PSU and remove the battery from the board. Push the Clear CMOS button for 1 minute and leave the board without power for at least a half an hour.

Power up your board and hit F2 to load setup defaults. Restart your computer and enter BIOS Setup. Flash your board and shut it down.

Do a Clear CMOS again after flashing your board and Load Setup Defaults again afterwards.

All you can do now is hope that the problem is gone.:D

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thanks for your suggestion but no luck

i removed the psu cable, press the clear cmos button for 1 min, take out the battery, remove all drives, left only 1 stick of ram and 1 display card, flash to bios 0902 in ezflash, no luck

the problem seems to be when i save the bios and restart, the power to the board is not cut completely, so the motherboard stay on the status that is entered the bios but the power require it to restart sth like that, i dont know very much

but it is very frustrating that i cant do any overclock or i search some method on the net is that cut the power directly but not pressing the cmos button, doing it 1-3 times the computer can boot up with saved setting, but i dont want to do it cause i am afarid it hurts my parts

so i may send it back for fixing it, but i dont want to be with out computer for days:(

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

You have got the point. The question is if I can use this calculation for my p45 chip. I think these values are for the X48 only.
However is it possible to run a lower PL (7 instead of 8) by increasing the nb voltage and maybe the fsb vtt?:confused: (please don´t tell me "just try"- I am sick to set the jumper back and forward adjusting all my bios options again and again each time I try and the system won´t f****** start).

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Here's your answer to your question:;) http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...rding-p45.html

Thank you Alien-Grey,
this makes a P45 interesting, doesn´t it ?

P.S. I am still checking around for the Q9650 with the special batch.
Do you have an link for downloading LinX 0.6.2 ? The version 0.6.0 had 64 bit bug.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Thank you Alien-Grey,
this makes a P45 interesting, doesn´t it ?

P.S. I am still checking around for the Q9650 with the special batch.
Do you have an link for downloading LinX 0.6.2 ? The version 0.6.0 had 64 bit bug.

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x48 > p45. Newest version of Linx you will probably find in its thread.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Thank you Alien-Grey,
this makes a P45 interesting, doesn´t it ?

P.S. I am still checking around for the Q9650 with the special batch.
Do you have an link for downloading LinX 0.6.2 ? The version 0.6.0 had 64 bit bug.

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I don't have a newer version. I'm still using an older version.

Hi guys, my Rampage Formula died last night i think, i get this message after the checking devices: USB overpower detected, shutting down in 15 seconds, i tried to unplug everything, even to disamble the entire pc, piece by piece, asamble directly on the table only with the power cable, monitor and minumum stuff conected to the mobo and still i get the same error, reseted the bios couple of times, nothing helped, the only option right now is to send it to RMA, my question is if it will be better to change it with a P45 like Maximus II Formula or should i stay with Rampage Formula, i wasnt so satisfied with my old formula because i manage to get only 450 fps with quad and 1,55 on NB, i know P45 are better on quads.

DaLiu can you enter flash utility by pressing ALT+F2?

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DaLiu can you enter flash utility by pressing ALT+F2?

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I didnt tried that, i will try it tonight, if i manage to enter in the bios what should i do?

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Originally Posted by DaLiu

I didnt tried that, i will try it tonight, if i manage to enter in the bios what should i do?

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If you can get in the BIOS try with disabling everything in the USB Configuration. You can try to flash the BIOS afterwards.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

If you can get in the BIOS try with disabling everything in the USB Configuration. You can try to flash the BIOS afterwards.

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I think you are right, i remember that the computer booted one time to load the windows, it freeze on the booting screen, i reseted and after that i got the error about USB overpower detected, so probably could be a bios error, the only question is if i manage to enter in the bios, probably if not i need to send the mobo to RMA, to bad i liked this mobo, i hope i can fix it. I update you probably tomorrow morning.

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

If the cooling is adequate for 1.4v then I don't see the problem, I've run 1.6v for months in the past and it never bothred my X48 chipset as long as I kept temps sane, same goes for P45s. Asus P5Q Deluxe for example has atrocious NB cooling and that board doesnt like more than 1.34V or so. I've got a Thermalright HR-05 sli/ifx on my DFI X48 board and even when running ~1.5v my temps are 37-38c idle, so NB voltage is dependent on temps being kept stable.

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Heh, my DFI DK X48-T2RSB Plus also has great NB cooling. Doesn't exceed 45*C full load at 1.78v. However I have benched at 1.55 vNB on both my P5Q-Deluxe and my Maximus II Formula, and although the temps are around 50 - 60*C under load, they behaved perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh Mikeyakame,
you mentioned a point about the PL where I am still wondering even being able "to swim in deeper waters and avoiding the contact to seewasps". :cool:
There is a relation between the PL and the fsb you want to run, that´s for sure.
The AnandTech site makes it really clear: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1
But the point I am still wondering about is if I can take the AnandTech. article just for my P45 chipset. Right now I am running a fsb of 470 MHz and a PL of 8. If I lower the PL to 7 my system wouldn´t start.
If I had a X48 Chipset the formular says I could because: [tRD-(tCL/N)]>[x/N]
N= FSB-RAM-Divider => 7-(5/4)= 5.75 is greater than 2.75/(5/4)=2,2
2.75 is for fsb> 466 MHz.
Is it possible to run a PL of 8 together with a fsb of 470 by increasing the vnb?
My vnb right now is 1.2950v (=1,26v real), CPU VTT is 1.23v.
Do you think I should just force the PL of 7 increasing the vnb?

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You can certainly run PL8 at 500 FSB on a P45, quite easily in fact. My M2F runs 500 FSB / 600 MHz ram (DDR2-1200) / PL8 / Clock Twister Moderate / static read and dram read training enabled @ 1.25 vNB totally stable 24/7. You are of course limited in your PL choice by the memory divider and CAS latency, and increasing the vNB will not allow a lower PL to be used when limited by these parameters.

i will take my board for rma later and maybe seek for if i can change to m2f or not

now i have another problem

when i was using my old com, which has a realtek sound chip

i can open as much audio-output-programme as i want

but when i switch to this board which use the suprexfxII and switch to vista sp2 from sp1

i lost my sound when i open about 3~5 audio-output-programme, i need to stop and restart the windows service audiosrv

also i can enable microphone input and stereo mix at the same time with realtek chip

but now i cant

so it this the sound chip problem or because i switch to sp2

if i buy a creative sound card can i solve my problem?

cause i dont know what sound chip does creative use and i dont find a single sound card on the market which use realtek chip

thx a lot

Originally posted by Cryptik:
"You can certainly run PL8 at 500 FSB on a P45, quite easily in fact. My M2F runs 500 FSB / 600 MHz ram (DDR2-1200) / PL8 / Clock Twister Moderate / static read and dram read training enabled @ 1.25 vNB totally stable 24/7. You are of course limited in your PL choice by the memory divider and CAS latency, and increasing the vNB will not allow a lower PL to be used when limited by these parameters".

Another problem is that I don´t have a 3:4 divider to oc my mem. pretty easiliy. The next possible divider is 5:4. I don´t think that the CAS latency of 5-5-5-15 limits my system. If I want to run my mem. sticks on default I could adjust a fsb of 500 MHz (=600 MHz mem. speed).
I have got a fsb of 490 MHz prime95 stable firing 1,39v to the nb. Next week a will be on vacation so there is no way out to hit my goal.

@Alien-Grey,
if the P45 chipset ist better for quad, why don´t you get a P45 plus a Q9650?
Still trying to get your batch. ;)
I asked a friend of mine about our seeking. He told me the certain batch doesn´t mean the cpu will exactaly work like you suppose. He knows two guys who bought a cpu with the same batch and still the cpu behaviour is really different.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

@Alien-Grey,
if the P45 chipset ist better for quad, why don´t you get a P45 plus a Q9650?
Still trying to get your batch. ;)
I asked a friend of mine about our seeking. He told me the certain batch doesn´t mean the cpu will exactaly work like you suppose. He knows two guys who bought a cpu with the same batch and still the cpu behaviour is really different.

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Maybe you are right. All CPU's overclock different. Maybe I should just order one and hope that I'm lucky this time.:yepp:

EDIT: Wish me luck, I've just ordered my Q9650.:D

Alien-Grey,
I wish good luck for your new cpu. Some dealers didn´t even answer my mail.
If there is any response I will tell you by pm.
If you want to stress your new q9650 just use the new version of LinX: LinX 0.6.1

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Quelle: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/663563/LinX/en/LinX.7z

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Maybe you are right. All CPU's overclock different. Maybe I should just order one and hope that I'm lucky this time.:yepp:

EDIT: Wish me luck, I've just ordered my Q9650.:D

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GOOOOD Luck mate.

Looking forward seeing some results:D

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Originally Posted by greg.m

GOOOOD Luck mate.

Looking forward seeing some results:D

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Thanks mate.

My dealer is going to order the Q9650 next Monday. The price is going to drop a little next Monday.:up:

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Thanks mate.

My dealer is going to order the Q9650 next Monday. The price is going to drop a little next Monday.:up:

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I wish I got myself a Q9650 but unfortunately at the time they were out of stock and had to be ordered in special order, and my Q6600 was broken. I like my Q9550 and all, but the extra 0.5x multi would have been awesome. since I only run my fsb @ 400-410mhz 24/7 these days which is 3.4-3.45ghz, 3.6-3.7ghz would have been sweet.

My DFI board sometimes from boot to boot won't correctly do the POST memory delay procedure correctly, and it can screw up my stable bios settings. I haven't been bothered to go through a solid week of testing/fine change/testing/fine change to get the FSB any higher. At 400-410mhz board works great with the GTLs I worked out are optimal for my cpu/board anywhere from 333-420mhz fsb. Beyond this point GTLs will work most of the time, but cause the once in a blue moon bsod which might takes hours or days to come up. Then once I change them by a fraction (0.0007-8v) I gotta repeat the whole procedure again if it passes prime/linpack!

Good luck with your Q9650 if it works great maybe you can send Asus an xmas present this year instead of an angry love letter :D

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

I wish I got myself a Q9650 but unfortunately at the time they were out of stock and had to be ordered in special order, and my Q6600 was broken. I like my Q9550 and all, but the extra 0.5x multi would have been awesome. since I only run my fsb @ 400-410mhz 24/7 these days which is 3.4-3.45ghz, 3.6-3.7ghz would have been sweet.

My DFI board sometimes from boot to boot won't correctly do the POST memory delay procedure correctly, and it can screw up my stable bios settings. I haven't been bothered to go through a solid week of testing/fine change/testing/fine change to get the FSB any higher. At 400-410mhz board works great with the GTLs I worked out are optimal for my cpu/board anywhere from 333-420mhz fsb. Beyond this point GTLs will work most of the time, but cause the once in a blue moon bsod which might takes hours or days to come up. Then once I change them by a fraction (0.0007-8v) I gotta repeat the whole procedure again if it passes prime/linpack!

Good luck with your Q9650 if it works great maybe you can send Asus an xmas present this year instead of an angry love letter :D

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All I need is a good batch. I keep my fingers crossed because I didn't have much luck with my hardware. I don't want to RMA it after some time because it sucks.

The new batch L847C037 seems to be very good with a low VID. It would be awesome if I can get one of these.

And yes, I would love to send ASUS an Xmas present this year.:D

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

All I need is a good batch. I keep my fingers crossed because I didn't have much luck with my hardware. I don't want to RMA it after some time because it sucks.

The new batch L847C037 seems to be very good with a low VID. It would be awesome if I can get one of these.

And yes, I would love to send ASUS an Xmas present this year.:D

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My 9550 is batch #L845B512, don't know much about the different batches but this one has a 1.19v VID and runs 3.6ghz at 1..20-1.21V perfectly.

Well guys,
I really didn´t care about the batch before I bought the Q9650. The VID is 1.3v and I have to adjust 1.36v in BIOS (=1.32v real) to get the 4 GHz (470*8,5) prime95 and LinX0.6.1 stable. I can live with it.:p:

@Mikeyakame,
This DFI behavior is common. Even when you got it LinX stable, on some days the board has it´s own mudes. Or for example one step more vnb seems to much voltage and prime95 stops after the first loop large FFTs.
Yesterday I changed the "Read Delay Phase Adjust Pull-ins" from all in Channel 1 "Auto" to "enabled" (=e) "Auto"(=a), e, e, e and Channel 2 to e, a, a, e, e everything worked out fine but today I had to Clear CMOS because of a C1 fault:confused:

EDit: I read your post on DFI LANParty thread, thanks for that!

Is there any new ASUS-BIOS coming up the next days. The 0902 ist about six months old.

No, there is no new bios coming.
And about the batch, it's worthless info if you are talking about c2d/c2q. More about oc will tell you week of year in which the cpu was manufactured.

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

My 9550 is batch #L845B512, don't know much about the different batches but this one has a 1.19v VID and runs 3.6ghz at 1..20-1.21V perfectly.

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That's what I call a good batch.

It doesn't mean that a batch with a low VID is going to overclock very good but it gives you more room to raise the CPU Voltage.

Yoh Alien-Grey,
are you still waiting for your Q9650 or are you just "priming" and "LinXing" a new cpu?

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yoh Alien-Grey,
are you still waiting for your Q9650 or are just "priming" and "LinXing" a new cpu?

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I'm still waiting for my Q9650.:(

I've got my Q9650 today.

The good news is that it's running at 4.05 GHz. The bad news is that it needs 1.29-130V on load to run stable at 4.05GHz with my G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI at 1199MHz and tRD 6.

It's going to be almost impossible to overclock it much further unless I put some high volts on that CPU.:(

I also have a core temp that is stuck at 39° Celsius.:down:

Not much luck again for me.:shakes:

Did anyone ever have any success integrating the latest raid option rom into the rampage formula bios?

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

I've got my Q9650 today.

The good news is that it's running at 4.05 GHz. The bad news is that it needs 1.29-130V on load to run stable at 4.05GHz with my G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI at 1199MHz and tRD 6.

It's going to be almost impossible to overclock it much further unless I put some high volts on that CPU.:(

I also have a core temp that is stuck at 39° Celsius.:down:

Not much luck again for me.:shakes:

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I also have a core stuck @ 41 - it goes up but never lower than 41. If you can run higher volts and @ the same time having low temps i dont think thats a prob.

Right now im having holidays in Greece and guys its really hot. Tommorow we expect 43 degrees:eek::eek:
I use a laptop of a friend and its working all the time @ 60c without heavy load:eek::eek::rofl:
Tomorrow with the 43c ill do some torturetests:rofl: and ill come back with some results.....

@Alien-Grey,
how high is your vnb to run a PL of 6 with a quad?
As I remember to do have a water cooling system for your nb, don´t ya?
Next week I will install a better air cooling system to hit my fsb 500 goal. I will need about 1.45v to the nb (P45) and I expect about 57° C nb temp.

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

@Alien-Grey,
how high is your vnb to run a PL of 6 with a quad?
As I remember to do have a water cooling system for your nb, don´t ya?
Next week I will install a better air cooling system to hit my fsb 500 goal. I will need about 1.45v to the nb (P45) and I expect about 57° C nb temp.

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The same as before. 1.33V in the BIOS and 1.31V real.
The FSB Termination Voltage is higher. It's 0.10V higher. It's now 1.34V in the BIOS or 1.24V real.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

The same as before. 1.33V in the BIOS and 1.31V real.
The FSB Termination Voltage is higher. It's 0.10V higher. It's now 1.34V in the BIOS or 1.24V real.

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1.24v VTT is not that high. Did you try increasing VTT further to see if it lets you use a lower vcore?

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Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

1.24v VTT is not that high. Did you try increasing VTT further to see if it lets you use a lower vcore?

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Yes, I tried that. It's just not possible to use lower CPU Voltage.

This batch sucks. It isn't worth the extra money to spend to swap the CPU from a Q9450@3.72GHz to a Q9650@4.05GHz.:down:

Pack date says 06/04/09 batch L846B794 VID 1.2875. That isn't one of the new that are available at the moment. This CPU isn't worth to be a Retail it should have been a OEM version.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Yes, I tried that. It's just not possible to use lower CPU Voltage.

This batch sucks. It isn't worth the extra money to spend to swap the CPU from a Q9450@3.72GHz to a Q9650@4.05GHz.:down:

Pack date says 06/04/09 batch L846B794 VID 1.2875. That isn't one of the new that are available at the moment. This CPU isn't worth to be a Retail it should have been a OEM version.

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Well since a stuck sensor is grounds for an RMA? You could RMA and maybe receive a better one?

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Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

Well since a stuck sensor is grounds for an RMA? You could RMA and maybe receive a better one?

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Working on that. I just hope that they don't send another crappy batch again.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Yes, I tried that. It's just not possible to use lower CPU Voltage.

This batch sucks. It isn't worth the extra money to spend to swap the CPU from a Q9450@3.72GHz to a Q9650@4.05GHz.:down:

Pack date says 06/04/09 batch L846B794 VID 1.2875. That isn't one of the new that are available at the moment. This CPU isn't worth to be a Retail it should have been a OEM version.

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I got your CPU's big brother two days ago - Same batch, same VID and packed a day earlier and it is totally crap :down:

Wish you all the best in getting a better one - I've tried three this week - An L845, L846 and now L847 and the lowest VID is 1.2625 that I have had.

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Originally Posted by KRich

I got your CPU's big brother two days ago - Same batch, same VID and packed a day earlier and it is totally crap :down:

Wish you all the best in getting a better one - I've tried three this week - An L845, L846 and now L847 and the lowest VID is 1.2625 that I have had.

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You should look for a L84xCxxx batch. These batches have a low VID.

I swapped my Q9450 C1 for a Q9650 E0 to have a lower VID. I was wrong again.:D

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

You should look for a L84xCxxx batch. These batches have a low VID.

I swapped my Q9450 C1 for a Q9650 E0 to have a lower VID. I was wrong again.:D

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I got an L847Cxxx yesterday and it has a VID of 1.2625. When I saw the box I was really excited thinking I had finally got a Low VID :rofl:

It isn't anything special in the OC department either :rofl:

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Originally Posted by KRich

I got an L847Cxxx yesterday and it has a VID of 1.2625. When I saw the box I was really excited thinking I had finally got a Low VID :rofl:

It isn't anything special in the OC department either :rofl:

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Did you overclock them all to see what voltage they needed?

There are CPU's with a high VID that don't need high voltage to overclock very well.

@greg.m

WTF is this :banana::banana: doing in our sig?

I've noticed it first in your sig and now I see that it's also in mine.:D

It looks back normal again in our signature the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4G:banana::banana:I

This behaviour still happens in a post.:confused:

I'm also thinking about getting a Q9650 soon. They seem to be sold out everywhere. Seems to be a common trend with Intel CPUs, they start out with average overclockability, then they reach a "golden" period, then they start to decline like mad. Normally I'd take this to be a sign of increasing binning but since the Q9650 is pretty much right at the top, I wonder if they're starting to use cheaper materials for manufacturing?

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Did you overclock them all to see what voltage they needed?

There are CPU's with a high VID that don't need high voltage to overclock very well.

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I did indeed.

The L845 was the crappest of all and needed over 1.35V to do 4GHz :(

The L846 needs 1.325 to do 4GHz and the L847C needs 1.30V to do 4GHz :(

May not sound bad, but that is coming from an L828B that needed only 1.25V to do 4GHz.

My L828B does 4.35GHz at 1.40V actual and none of these chips could do anywhere near that. They all needed over 1.45V actual do get anything like those speeds.

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Originally Posted by KRich

I did indeed.

The L845 was the crappest of all and needed over 1.35V to do 4GHz :(

The L846 needs 1.325 to do 4GHz and the L847C needs 1.30V to do 4GHz :(

May not sound bad, but that is coming from an L828B that needed only 1.25V to do 4GHz.

My L828B does 4.35GHz at 1.40V actual and none of these chips could do anywhere near that. They all needed over 1.45V actual do get anything like those speeds.

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I guess you are as lucky as me. I get used to do a RMA before I get for what I payed for.:yepp:

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Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

I'm also thinking about getting a Q9650 soon. They seem to be sold out everywhere. Seems to be a common trend with Intel CPUs, they start out with average overclockability, then they reach a "golden" period, then they start to decline like mad. Normally I'd take this to be a sign of increasing binning but since the Q9650 is pretty much right at the top, I wonder if they're starting to use cheaper materials for manufacturing?

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There are some new batches that still overclock very well with low voltage but I think that they are only available for Intel and friends.:D

Yeb!
If you watch this thread you will hardly beleave how high the guys oced their Q9650 with a low vcore:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...68#post3918568
I wish you that you will get the "golden Q9650".
Don´t forget to post your results (you won´t anyway:D)

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Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ

Yeb!
If you watch this thread you will hardly beleave how high the guys oced their Q9650 with a low vcore:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...68#post3918568
I wish you that you will get the "golden Q9650".
Don´t forget to post your results (you won´t anyway:D)

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At this moment there isn't much to share. The Q9650 is going back to Intel because it really sucks. Core# 3 has a stuck sensor and is failing all the time in Prime95.

This is very bad because in the past I had to RMA my Q9450 after a few months because it couldn't run at stock speed anymore without failing Prime95.

I hope to have a good one at the end of the week.:yepp:

Here i my new q9650 1.3VID :(
L846B682

4020MHz 1.344V
4106MHz 1.376V
4140MHz 1.416V
9x465=4185MHz@1.416V with Air Conditioner cooling the room temperature to 19C:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8406/9x465.th.jpg

You need to cool them well to obtain higher results.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

At this moment there isn't much to share. The Q9650 is going back to Intel because it really sucks. Core# 3 has a stuck sensor and is failing all the time in Prime95.

This is very bad because in the past I had to RMA my Q9450 after a few months because it couldn't run at stock speed anymore without failing Prime95.

I hope to have a good one at the end of the week.:yepp:

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Good luck with that buddy, I'll be rooting for you :up:

In my experience with another L847C, I have tried 2 x L847C187 and one had a VID of 1.2625 and one of 1.3000 and both equally disappointing.

The L847C which seems impressive is the L847C037 from what I have read.

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Originally Posted by OLDcomer

Here i my new q9650 1.3VID :(
L846B682

4020MHz 1.344V
4106MHz 1.376V
4140MHz 1.416V
9x465=4185MHz@1.416V with Air Conditioner cooling the room temperature to 19C:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8406/9x465.th.jpg

You need to cool them well to obtain higher results.

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The high VID CPU's need a lot of voltage to run LinX stable at 4GHz+.

Is this bad?:shrug:

I think that with good cooling it shouldn't be a problem. The chips seems to be running at that speed without much effort.

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Originally Posted by KRich

Good luck with that buddy, I'll be rooting for you :up:

In my experience with another L847C, I have tried 2 x L847C187 and one had a VID of 1.2625 and one of 1.3000 and both equally disappointing.

The L847C which seems impressive is the L847C037 from what I have read.

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To be honest. I think that, with my ASUS Rampage Formula, G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI memory and Windows XP 64 Bit, it's impossible to have a Q9650 running at 4GHz+ with low CPU Voltage.

At 4GHz+ and the memory at 1200MHz+ with low tRD, I'm pushing so much GFlops out of this CPU that it's impossible to have it running with low CPU Voltage if I want it LinX stable.

That's what I think.

Of course a lower VID Q9650 should probably have it running stable with a little less CPU Voltage but I don't see it running LinX stable at 4GHz under 1.20V.

But I still would like to have a low VID Q9650 and I'm hoping that I've got it all wrong.:yepp:

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Originally Posted by OLDcomer

Here i my new q9650 1.3VID :(
L846B682

4020MHz 1.344V
4106MHz 1.376V
4140MHz 1.416V
9x465=4185MHz@1.416V with Air Conditioner cooling the room temperature to 19C:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8406/9x465.th.jpg

You need to cool them well to obtain higher results.

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Could you maybe upload your settings what you used with your Q9550 and the bios version?
I tryed to get 4GHz this evening with high voltages but without any succes :(
I really dont get it im running 3.7 with really low voltages on my MB but 3.9 or 4.0 are just :censored: impossible.

Now as im thinking of it, my 5V and 3.3V Voltages from my PSU are very low.
I noticed this when i bought the damn thing but i thought it where faulty readings but now after a reinstall and a newer version of everest im really suspecting my PSU.
Can i be right with this?

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...mR/everest.png

PS you can also see the voltages what im running on my MB are pretty low as i say so myself.
Tomorrow ill post some bios settings

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Originally Posted by Earzz

Could you maybe upload your settings what you used with your Q9550 and the bios version?
I tryed to get 4GHz this evening with high voltages but without any succes :(
I really dont get it im running 3.7 with really low voltages on my MB but 3.9 or 4.0 are just :censored: impossible.

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Here are the stable settings for my old q9550 c1 and the bios is 0802:

*Extreme Tweaker*
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.5]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333Mhz]
FSB Frequency [473]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1135MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal A [Auto]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal B [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal A [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal B [Auto]

DRAM Timing Control [AUTO]

DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Stronger]
Ai Transation Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Booster [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH6 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH6 [Disabled]

CPU Voltage [1.375 CPU-Z Load]

CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.65]

DRAM Voltage [2.00]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.36]
South Bridge Voltage [1.075]
SB 1,5V Voltage [AUTO]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [Auto]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF [AUTO]

CPU LED Selection [CPU Voltage]
NB LED Selection [North Bridge Voltage]
SB LED Selection [South Bridge Voltage]
Voltiminder LED [Disabled]

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spred Spectrum [Disabled]

CPU Clk Skew = Delay 100PS
NB Clk Skew = Normal


*Advanced settings*
CPU Ratio Setting [8.5]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech. [Disabled]

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Originally Posted by OLDcomer

Here are the stable settings for my old q9550 c1 and the bios is 0802:

*Extreme Tweaker*
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.5]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333Mhz]
FSB Frequency [473]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1135MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal A [Auto]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal B [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal A [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal B [Auto]

DRAM Timing Control [AUTO]

DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Stronger]
Ai Transation Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Booster [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH6 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH6 [Disabled]

CPU Voltage [1.375 CPU-Z Load]

CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.65]

DRAM Voltage [2.00]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.36]
South Bridge Voltage [1.075]
SB 1,5V Voltage [AUTO]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [Auto]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF [AUTO]

CPU LED Selection [CPU Voltage]
NB LED Selection [North Bridge Voltage]
SB LED Selection [South Bridge Voltage]
Voltiminder LED [Disabled]

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spred Spectrum [Disabled]

CPU Clk Skew = Delay 100PS
NB Clk Skew = Normal


*Advanced settings*
CPU Ratio Setting [8.5]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech. [Disabled]

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Can you tell me if you use air cooling for NB and what are temps in load?

http://www.picvalley.net/u/1988/1265831731199301733.JPG

MCHtemp: 50-56C
but can't remember the exact value

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Originally Posted by DaLiu

Can you tell me if you use air cooling for NB and what are temps in load?

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I was just going to ask that question.

What is the maximum temperature the NorthBridge can handle on the Rampage Formula comfortably without crashing?


:cool:
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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 2.66 @ 3.2 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 /
Asus Radeon HD4870X2 Tri-Fan 2GB graphics card / 24" DeLL Ultrasharp 2408WFP monitor /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition /
IOGEAR GCS1782 GCS1782 Dual-Link DVI KVMP switch with 7.1 audio

I have my case on the balcony, and my NB is max 45degrees load, whatever volts up to 1.69v. I have 1 120mm fan on the side (blowing to the back of the case) standing up in front of ram and NB sink around 1000rpm. Outside temp is +-15degrees here in Amsterdam. I didnt place the minicooler that comes with mobo btw. (I have maximus formula, same heatsink I guess)

PS;working on my crappy Q9550 E0 now, cant get past 455FSB so far. @455FSB i can set perfomancelvl on 7 stable, but 455FSB needs it on 10...:(

EDIT:Many say the norhtbridge can take 55degrees load stressed. Any above will get less stable at high clocks. I believe pretty much that is the case.

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Originally Posted by traveler

I was just going to ask that question.

What is the maximum temperature the NorthBridge can handle on the Rampage Formula comfortably without crashing?


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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 2.66 @ 3.2 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 /
Asus Radeon HD4870X2 Tri-Fan 2GB graphics card / 24" DeLL Ultrasharp 2408WFP monitor /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition /
IOGEAR GCS1782 GCS1782 Dual-Link DVI KVMP switch with 7.1 audio

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Use an Antec Spot Cooler to cool your NB. You should see a temperature drop around 8° Celsius.

It's the easiest way to cool the NB with air.

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Originally Posted by A-Grey

Use an Antec Spot Cooler to cool your NB. You should see a temperature drop around 8° Celsius.

It's the easiest way to cool the NB with air.

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Thanks for the reply A-Grey.

I put an Antec Spot Cool fan blowing onto my NorthBridge when I first built my Rampage Formula about a year ago. I now need to come up with a solution for the new heat problem which started a few days ago.

See this thread for the details of what happened. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=230907

The Spot Cool is a great device. It had solved the problem until now. I'm puzzled what to do next.




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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 2.66 @ 3.2 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 /
Asus Radeon HD4870X2 Tri-Fan 2GB graphics card / 24" DeLL Ultrasharp 2408WFP monitor /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition /
IOGEAR GCS1782 GCS1782 Dual-Link DVI KVMP switch with 7.1 audio

@traveler

That 4870X2 brings out a lot of heat and passed through the NB heatsink on the way up and also the NB craves a bit more juice to run the 4870X2 and yes both those things add so the NB runs hotter.

WC is probably the best option to cool the NB but if you plan on stay with air you can take of the heatsink/pipe arrangement that cover the NB and SB and keep the heatsink that cover the VRM, yes the heatsink/pipe is a two part arrangement, one for the NB,SB and one for the VRM.

And then try something like this with a fan for the NB

http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...b/DSC_0175.jpg

and something like this for the SB

http://www.enzotechnology.com/images/cnb_s1l.jpg

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Originally Posted by traveler

Thanks for the reply A-Grey.

I put an Antec Spot Cool fan blowing onto my NorthBridge when I first built my Rampage Formula about a year ago. I now need to come up with a solution for the new heat problem which started a few days ago.

See this thread for the details of what happened. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=230907

The Spot Cool is a great device. It had solved the problem until now. I'm puzzled what to do next.




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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 2.66 @ 3.2 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 /
Asus Radeon HD4870X2 Tri-Fan 2GB graphics card / 24" DeLL Ultrasharp 2408WFP monitor /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition /
IOGEAR GCS1782 GCS1782 Dual-Link DVI KVMP switch with 7.1 audio

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You could try with a Thermalright Chipset Cooler and a 80 mm Fan that blows the hot air from your graphics card away.

You could also use one of these coolers for your SB, like I do. Or use a cooler, suggested by Ghostleader, for the SB so you still can use the PCI slots if you need them.

I've found this post on the ASUS Forum with all the latest drivers and utilities for the ASUS motherboards.

Here's the link to the post: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Everything seems to work great. I'm using the latest Chipset drivers, Network drivers and Sound card drivers. I also use the latest version of ASUS PC Probe II.

Nice finding there A-Grey and thanks for sharing :up:

Finally I got my Blades, two sets of 2x2 PC-9600 :cool:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ePC-960001.jpg

Early 4x2 run with my Rampage Formula / E8600, seems like I need more then 1,80 to run them in 4x2 but it´s still early days, they do run 2x2 @ 1,80 just fine though.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...RD7StrongS.jpg

Nice Memory you've got there Ghostleader.:up:

I am also found damn VID 1.3000 E8400 (manufactured 04/2009)

4.2Ghz need 1.41xx V
4.5Ghz need 1.58xx V