CPU speed is fluctuating like crazy by a half mhz in CPUZ with the 802 bios. I'm sure I saw it fluctuate even more earlier. 701 bios was much better.
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CPU speed is fluctuating like crazy by a half mhz in CPUZ with the 802 bios. I'm sure I saw it fluctuate even more earlier. 701 bios was much better.
Yes I have had plenty of boards that have fluctuated a little. But not to the extent that its really difficult to get the screen shot at the same speed. When I say it fluctuates like crazy, I mean, it REALLY fluctuates like crazy. FAR more than on the older bios'.
0802 seems as if its just a revised version of 0701
Anyone getting better than 55-56ns latencies?
same bios profile and same OS install. Only change is the bios.
@ sonicsallen, I use the same ver. of Everest, but odly, at different FSB'RAM ratios when running RAMBench, I get no reported info for memory bus, type & ratio. Everest lso reports the chipset as just Bearlake, not Bearlake-X or Beachwood as now named.
Do you guys think X48 is gonna' replace X38 in 3 months or just stand beside?
Thanks a lot for this! I just tried it with an FSB of 470 and it works without a problem. My temps are getting 73 stressed now, so tomorrow it's lapping time. I also get my coollaboratory thermal grease then :) . Let's see how it works then. Going up to 500!
One more question. I see a lot of people change the paste under the NB/SB heatsink for AS5. Do you use the regular AS or the adhesive?
Thanks again for new hope:up:
@ safan80, It's not looking like X48 mobos are gonna be DDR2, (points to DDR3 only) even if the chipset might or can support it. So for us on this mobo w/ X38, looks liek it's gonna' be the best overall stepping stone to X48 on DDR3 and hopefully, ICH10R by summer. X48 on DDR3 should hit shelves aong w/ Penryn release early next year.
I can't see any reason really other then better chipset power usage (lower watts, less heat , so more room to OC, but nothing exciting w/ todays quads unles using good DDR1800. With BIOS fixes coming, X38 will at least pass up P35 in terms of DDR2 overclockability. As DDR2 nears its end, we may see better performing DDR1200 to get us through the middle or end of next year.
I think that rev 2 of the MAXIMUS FORMULA may either be a DDR3 or X48 version. Who's heard anything about this other then from Clunks living review?
Ok then, I think most of my issues are memory related to why I can't get my E6550 upto 500FSB. I have been looking at Kingston HyperX 2gb 1200mhz (KHX9600D2K2/2G) but will these work on this board? I see other people have 1200mhz memory installed so I assume they will...
I haven't got to try an E6550 on this but I know of a friend who has one to 500FSB on a P5K. However, it did look like for them, 500 is the ceiling on FSB before it just hits that wall. My E6750 is showing that at 516 on both this mobo and P5K Deluxe as well a a P35C-DS3R.
Try the settings I posted above for other member but only tweak your vcore as needed to see if it at least restarts and POST to CMOS @ 500x7 or 6x You can try to adjust PLL to you get reported 1.642v and FSBT to 1.504v, keeping GTL Ref to 63x on CPU but try 67x on NB. I believe you might be able to get there just play round w/ it and for testing, try only w/ 1 set of RAMs in yellow slots for stability. We know X38, and this mobo for sure is good to 515FSB stable on 1.5v NB. Only those w/ E6850's are gonna' show what more FSB we can get out of it.
Let me know as I am curious if I can help get another E6550 to 500x7
Clock On!
OMG, I still can't get my system to POST, after I flashed to 802 BIOS.
System will just not go into POST (so I can't access the bios), and on the LCD POSTER it is locked on DET DRAM...
Has anyone ever had a problem like this?
I really need some help...
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Simps
Thanks for those tips. So you think I should get 500fsb out of my current 800mhz memory? I just feel as if its the memory rather than anything else stopping me getting there. The new memory I originally quoted above is out of stock at my supplier but I can get some Kingston HyperX 2gb 1066mhz (KHX8500D2K2/2G) to me for tomorrow. Would this help or not?
I just called Scan to ask them what the actual Manufacturer Part number was for this V2 motherboard as the Scan info simply says:
Manufacturer code Maximus Formula SE
The guy said all the info they have is on the screen. I HATE websites that don't tell you the correct Manufacturer Code, you never know if your getting the correct model. :shakes:
He said the only changes were to the heatsinks to help make it more stable. I asked him why they were the only people with a V2 board and he never answered... Bit dodgy that!!!
I just mounted 2 80mm fans over my ram, just to give it a little bit of fresh air... The way I posititioned them meant the lower fans also blew slightly onto the NB...and just lowered the temps from 45*c+ to about 33*c!!!
I couldn't believe it...system hasn't been so stable as it is now! Feels much more responsive too!
Does anyone know where the PLL chip is for the FSB? Also, would sinking the 2 Phase vregs for the ram help out at all?
I was hoping for my NB temps to be lower than usual because I have 3 120mm fans on my sidepanel, but it's hard to reduce ambient temps when there are 5 HD's connected to my backplane :D
Sir Kup, how's the modding of the new BIOS coming along? although I'm not sure what on earth is better to use these days, every BIOS has different problems and I'm pretty stable with my setup at the moment. Maybe I should just wait another few months for the next release...
Someone on the ASUS VIP forum apparently posted up the changelog for the new BIOS, and it was the same as the last BIOS... so either ASUS are being vague/lazy or I would severley doubt the authenticity of the post.
Man, I have done that already... Still lock on DET DRAM.
I have also tried some value 533Mhz ram, because I thought my 2.4V Corsair RAM wasn't making it into deefault 1.8V, after the BIOS update...
I still can't post... Everything was working fine, until 802 BIOS.
How can I get out of this one?
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Simps
What is changed in 0802?
I'll get in done within the hour. Sorry, been playing with 0802 too much... :D
I'll take a pic and post it up here at the same time as sorting out the Bios for Devilhood, gimme 30mins. It's a proper ghetto mod, so you'll be impressed! :eek: :D
EDIT:
Bios 0802 has so far allowed me to get 10MHz more from the FSB with this Quad. Every other bios crapped out @ 450MHz with the Anandtech settings, 0802 is happily running OCCT 1.2b RAM test right now! Using these settings:
450FSB Quad-Core BIOS Settings
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto] (Defaults to 400MHz Strap)
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [Auto]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [Set what you need here...]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.16v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
The best thing is the performance hasn't dropped one single bit, if anything it's improved at the same clocks!
Right, here are my 2x80mm fans...proper bodge job this, but it works for now. I'll fashion a bracket of some sort soon...
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8...diumec6.th.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8...diumch7.th.jpg
It's sitting on an old Abit Serialle SATA converter to lift it up and it's wedged under the molex for the DVDRW... :ROTF:
It works...:D
My System:
Intel QX9650 (OEM)
Asus Maximus Formula SE (Modified)
Removed all stock heatsinks (what a pain)
SB: is a tall pure copper heatsink, with pins removed as needed to fit in cards
NB: Danger Den NB Cooler
Voltage regulators: Mosfet ASUS 3 x2 (modified to fit between capacitors)
CPU: Danger Den CPU block
Pump: DD12V-D5 (on max #5)
Radiator: Black Ice GTX240
Water Loop: CPU -> NB -> Mosfet -> Mosfet
CPU Temp under full load: 63c
BIOS: 0802 or 0701 I'm playing around
Video: ATI 3870
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 1GB PC8500 x 4 = 4GB
RAID: Promise EX8350: 5x400GB = 2TB
Boot: 2x Raptor 150MB in RAID0 = 289MB
Audio: X-Plosion 7.1
HD Tunner: HD Homerun
OS: Vista x64 Ultimate, Windows XP x64 SP2
BIOS Settings that count:
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Manual]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [10]
FSB Frequency [406]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1077]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [AUTO]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [AUTO]
Write Recovery Time [AUTO
Read To Precharge Time [AUTO
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [AUTO
Write To Read Delay(S) [AUTO]
Write To Read Delay(D) [AUTO
Read To Read Delay(S) [AUTO]
Read To Read Delay(D) [AUTO]
Write To Write Delay(S) [AUTO]
Write To Write Delay(D) [AUTO]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.36125]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.58]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61]
DRAM Voltage [2.16]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.61]
South Bridge Voltage [1.10]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.5]
Results:
So that gets me 4060MHz in BIOS or 4040MHz in Windows, and a a memory clock of 1077MHz at CAS5. I stopped at 4GHZ on the CPU as anything more as not prime95 stable at this voltage (although at this voltage it could finish Super Prime at up to 4.3GHz) and I was unwilling to go any higher on the Voltages for 24x7 use.
ERIC GANDT
Dunno about Asus' X48 plans, so you might be right that they'll only produce DDR3's, but still that's only speculation..
Gigabyte however starts retailing their DDR2 GA-X48-DQ6 in Germany & Austria this week..
So far I have been able to the e6850 up to 4.140 (9x460). I have't tried for max FSB yet, but I'll probably give that try tonight.
If I go higher like to a 470 FSB with the 9x, I get a BSOD so I think it has to with the RAM and straps. Any ideas or thoughts?
Lol, awesome bodge job their then!!! :ROTF:
I have an Antec Spot Cool pointing at my Memory/NB, see below:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6...rnaldz3.th.png
I also have a Thermalright Ultra 120 waiting to be fitted but I can't be bothered to take it all apart at the moment!!! :rolleyes:
Bios 0802 has now given me 465MHz OCCT 1.2b RAM stable. Same settings and voltages as posted above. On previous bios' this was maxing @ 450MHz!
I'm a fan of this new bios! :D
EDIT: And i don't have the temp bugs with it, Cores are reading correctly, as always and the "CPU" temp in Everest or PC Probe is now reading correctly again (as opposed to 0701/2)!
I just hang a 120mm fan off one of the mounting posts for my water block. Works perfect!
EDIT: Kup which everest are you using?
Everest Ultimate 4.20.1170. Been working well for me. Same Everest version since I got the board, so it can't be Everest midreading, it's the output the bios gives that Everest reads for the "CPU" temp, and then it reads the cores directly for the Individual Core Temps.
Anyone notice how Bios 0701 has been removed from the FTP?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ximus_Formula/
I did only moments ago while looking for the 0802 bios... Obviously something not right with that!!!
Hi, has been gone all day, also has been removed from the http:\\asus site as well...
Chris
Sure!
Flash On:
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/imag...0_10067901.JPG
Flash Off:
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/imag...1_10067911.JPG
I'm guessing the small fan at the bottom is blowing onto the mobo, but the large fan on the memory is pulling air off?? Or is it blowing onto it too?
Anandtech settings for 450MHz got me to 465MHz OCCT 1.2b RAM stable with the 0802 bios. I then encounter then usual inability to go a single MHz more regardless of what voltages I use...
Guys, what volts would I increase to keep stabilty with my FSB and and allow me to lower my vCore a touch? I used to be 3.825GHz stable with 1.48v but this board demands 1.53v, which I can only assume is due to the various other voltages it allows me to play with?
The small fan is blowing across the back of my 8800GT. It gets hot man without airflow. It also blows down onto the fins of the NB heatsink. The large fan blows down onto the memory slots. In my armor i have 2x120mm in the front iCages blowing in, the 120mm and the 80mm blowing down onto the board, then an 80mm and a 92mm blowing out the back. Then to finish it off, my Rad is top mounted with 2 FM121's and that draws any warm air out the top of the case. Does this raise my water temp a bit? Yes. Does it really matter? No, it's only a 1-2°C difference. Is my PC loud when on? OMG yes! But i use headphones so it doesn't really matter.
Rengade, just curious. What is the VID of your E6850 in CoreTemp? I've got one sitting here with a VID of 1.350v, which is literally as high as it can go before Intel would have rebinned it as a lower spec chip... Are all E6850 chips like this? My Quad 'g0' has a VID of only 1.2375v...
I don't really see how the temp problem is really an issue. We all know that the temps it reads are bogus, only the Core temps themselves are to be beleived!
And as it turns out, this time around I seem to be getting the problem. All I've changed is that I rebooted...? Seems like a dodgy reading to me...
My processor was reading 22ºC earlier, its only got stock cooling on it and i've o/c by 1ghz... Can't be right.
Hi,
does anyone know, how i can check the regular vDIMM-voltage on the board?
I had reported about my problem to become 4x 1GB Corsair XMS26400C4 stable.
Now i have overvoltet the vDimm. I have set 2.120@BIOS -> PC Probe reports now 2.19V under load and 2.12V when idle. I will now check the regular Voltage an the Board, but i have no information where are Point of + and -.
cya,
Cb
PS: @Moment i run Prime longest Time with 850 MHz @ 4x1GB :-)
@kup
i see in your signature, your are running the same memory config. How much vDimm have you set to become a 100% stable System?
cya,
Cb
My 24/7-setting (Bios 0505 - DDR1166C5 - 19/20C roomtemp):
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3079/247bw2.jpg
That's 1hellufachip.. swap? ;)
Hi. ill get the new asus maximus.... rev. 1.03g one of this days, but if you look at this: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=669218
aluminium cooler it say's R.O.G, but on this one:
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/revie...ng-review.html
its just says asus, but what are the difference between does to? and is the 1.03g the new rev.?
ne1 got a 0802 SLIC bios ?
found it http://forums.mydigitallife.info/sho...?t=814&page=87
I got this board today. I see that are a lot of bios around, witch should be the best?!
I will run a Q6600 G0 on it.
Regards
Yeah, actually 0802 seems to be giving better memory results upon first inspection :)
I cant seem to find the Intel Matrix Storage Manager 7.8.0.1013 that is mentioned in this thread. Anyone got a link?
Maybe its a typo and the guy means 1012 ?
[QUOTE=Eastcoasthandle;2570150]What's the deal with those adapters that fit on the barbs of the NB waterblock? There is no threads and no clamps...how the heck do you get those 3/4" and 1/2" adapters on and keep a tight seal which prevents water from leaking?
it comes with clamps/converters, everything you need is included
So the general consensus is that 0802 is a good one, eh? I'll be flashing it tonight.....I haven't been too successful with my motherboard POSTing over 400 FSB..
I am not sure I understand, do those adapters go inside the barb that sits ontop of the NB waterblock? Or do I need to buy smaller tubing?
Can anyone provide pics on how this works?
side note:
you left out the [/quote] at the end of my post when you deleted the other information from my post.
Depends on your strap/frequency (keep in AUTO for 1:1 ) settings as well as the RAM you have and it's timings, volts and sub features. For instance if it's good DDR2 w/ stock cl4, should be good to DDR1000 @ 500FSB (for the 1333 CPU's the Auto strap is fixing it to 333 cause of the devider you now get). Keep Ai Clock Twister to light or auto for testing, strong w/ Read Control nabled is stressfull memory. Mine just became unstable till I added more vdim or loosened timings. I ended up w/ Ai Twist to Moderate. Do try to use Static Read Contro (Enabled) as this will improve amooth strapping at higher FSB like 500.
For multi, stick to a 7x or 8x when getting closer to 500FSB till you get it where you like then fine tune. I found 500x8 was a butter zone for these E6750/E6850's in 1:1. Although I did get 5:6 for DDR1200 stable.
Keep us posted!
I think it really depends on the type of OC you're going for and especiall the CPU, RAM and CPU:RAM ratios you want.
For the profile in my sig, 0401 to current showed no major difference. In fact, at that profile, I believe v0602 showed better ram scores in Everest. Although, I was on an older, but estabilashed up to date OS RAID from my P5K Deluxe.
As for the guys struggling for those out of sink CPU;RAM deviders and especially for quad CPU's , I guess the newer BIOS is addressing this. I do notice if I try some 3:4, 4:5, or 5:6 deviders at igher FSB, it seams to be more stable once it's up and running. But getting it dialed in at CMOS is much more buggy cause of the manual FSB strapping and RAM frequencies.
Those are my findings, let's see if we can confirm from Quad users at nominal FSB with deviders.
I am installing the Max SE with Vista 64 and 4 gb of ram. When I get to the point of loading the raid drivers (extracted driver from Asus CD to floppy) Vista cannot find them. I have tried 3 ribbon cables flipped the ends to make sure it is connected correct and no luck. What am I doig wrong and where can I get the latest Intel drivers for the ICH9R?
at the end of my post when you deleted the other information from my post.[/QUOTE]
its built for 3/8" tubing
but if your using 1/2" tubing
then it would be
block -> 3/8" tubing -> 3/8" to 1/2" converter
and they also include a small piece of 3/8" tubing for you
anybody running 3.8GHZ stable with their Q6600 GO on this board?
I did so, and found out that they are integrated in the latest turbo memory drivers. Is that correct? I´ve searched Intel's homepage without any success in finding a seperate 7.8.0.1013 release...
EDIT: And well it seems like 7.8.0.1012 is the latest drivers :) Case solved.
Man I haven't been able to POST past 400 FSB since day one....regardless of multiplier. I'm running 400*9 right now and it's rock solid stable. I'd like to go 3.9 or 3.9 because I can definitely do it with my current temps and VCore.
Just letting you guys know that the SLIC BIOS posted up on mydigitallife doesn't actually add the SLIC Table data properly. Only XSDT and RSDT seem to be showing up, SLIC is missing.
I flashed back to 0701 for the time being :p:
I just flashed to 0802 and thought all my settings would revert back to the default but they have stayed the same! It says its 0802 on the Post screen. Is this normal??
What should I be trying to get a higher fsb on 0802 then??
OMFG OMFG!!! Finally, I have my E6550 2.33ghz running at 500FSBx7 = 3.5Ghz
The only issue is, my memory is set at 2.1V in the Bios = 2.21V on Probe... Its supposed to be a max 2.0v according to Kingston. :rolleyes:
day 1 huh? you wanna fight? :p:
picture below;)
the only thing different now is that my NB is running at 34*C because i reseated the stock block with MX-2 and added it to my water loop. also, in the pic it was a blend (i believe) and the new figures i've just written are from OCCT beta in RAM mode which should stress the RAM/NB quite a bit more and add some extra heat in there. also, please note that voltages will be different in bios as they over/under volt when in windows. hope this helps.
Ok back up with new RAM! Flashed to 0802 and everything is OK so far!
445*9
DDR2 1186 5-5-5-15 @ 2.32v
Static Read = On
Clock Twister = Strong
Trans Booster = Off
Relax = 1
I am getting the same clocks as before, but with lower volts on everything except the CPU. That remains the same. I tried the NB at 1.55 Real, but OCCT RAM caused my machine to reboot. Bumped the voltage up one notch and I had stability. I am REALLY liking OCCT for tuning this board. Using Orthos and OCCT set to CPU, I was able to confirm the CPU was good. Then I ran OCCT set to RAM and had the reboot. The ability to stress the NB <=> RAM link is fantastic.
Vcore = 1.54 (1.5625 set in BIOS)
DRAM = 2.32 (2.22 set in BIOS)
NB = 1.58 (1.55 set in BIOS)
SB = 1.12 (1.10 set in BIOS)
SB2 = 1.52 (1.5 set in BIOS)
FSBT = 1.58 (1.55 set in BIOS)
PLL = 1.71 (1.6 set in BIOS)
Temps Idle/Load:
NB = 32/35
SB = 33/37
MB = 28/32
CPU = 28/54 (35/65 according to CoreTemp 0.95.4)
Ambient = 24.5
EDIT: I need to update my sig!
I still can't POST with Maximus Formula...
I am locked on DET DRAM....
I already tried:
Removing power cables
CMOS clearing
Battery removing
1 stick of cheap 1.8V 667 RAM (tried every slot)
Left only 1 ps2 keybord plugged on the mobo. Not even HDD's are connected.
Really don't know what to do anymore...
I will try a long CMOS clear, removing the battery for 10h+ (overnight). It is insane how an expensive mobo like this, can have all of this problems...
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Simps
Yes, the mobo was working fine with bios 0401, then I flashed to 0802, and now it is not posting. Locked on DET DRAM...
No, you can't POST without RAM.
But, thanks anyway man.
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Simps
have you tried one stick of low voltage RAM?
Yes...
I already tried:
Removing power cables
CMOS clearing
Battery removing
1 stick of cheap 1.8V 667 RAM (tried every slot)
Left only 1 ps2 keybord plugged on the mobo. Not even HDD's are connected.
Now i am doing a long CMOS clear... I'll wait 10h without the battery.
Any other sugestions?
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Simps