Hey guys, what do the "pull ins" do in the transaction booster? I have them set to disabled, what happens if I enable them. Is that a good thing?
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Hey guys, what do the "pull ins" do in the transaction booster? I have them set to disabled, what happens if I enable them. Is that a good thing?
If it's stable on, you should enable then, will give you better bandwidth/latency.Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
How is your RAM kit working? I will receive mine in a couple of days.
i benched both ways, did nothing for me, as if the switches do nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
:shrug:
My question of the day,,. Should I buy a Q6700 for $250 or the Q6600 for $200~?
Overclocking a Q9450 on a P5Q-E to 3,2Ghz. Just wondering if I should finetune any of the following settings, anything that shouldnt run on auto? So far they are mostly based on what I could read in this thread from others with a similar setup, and elsewhere.
RAM is Mushkin 1000Mhz.
Temps seemed to stabilize at 60 C during Prime95 in RealTemp (A bit high due to running fans on a really low speed, but not too high I guess, considering I wont OC any higher. Only around 2-5 C higher than @ stock)
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 (Don't know whats best here, just picked what others with a similar CPU/overclock had)
PCI-E Frequency: 100 (I can see many set it to 101. Does it matter?)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-801MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.2 (giving me 1,184v in CPU-Z which was stock voltage as well)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.630
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.12 (should it be higher?)
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Edit: sorry, typing error for NB voltage, its 1.12.
Same here, testing was not extensive, but i noticed little (if any) differnce between when they were enabled or not - PL I also didnt notice do much going from 12 to 8...Quote:
Originally Posted by ThugsRook
Save your $50 and invest in a good CPU cooler or better RAM. My Q6600 hits 3.0Ghz easily on stock voltages (9x333), but if I push it I can reach 3.6Ghz (8x444). Right now I'm sticking with 9x333 because the system runs a lot cooler when I'm not pushing the voltages to the limit. This is on a P5Q-E with air cooling, so the Deluxe might do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
How much voltage does your boards need for 500 fsb stability on wolfdales?Mine needs 1.32 for 500 and 1.38 for 525 :mad:
#2314
going back to bios 0803 from 1103
1103 has some bug
fsb from 500 to 600 I set fsb volt to 1.36/1.38v stabil
Can the fan connected to SYS_FAN be controlled through Fan Xpert?
PL doesnt do a whole lot for gaming especially below PL10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runkett
Hi, looking to change my 4gb kit, but im kinda torn between 2 different kits at the moment, could someone please advise if both kits are compatible with these boards and which you would go for:
Kit 1: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...8500CL5D-4GBPK)
Kit 2: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=8&subcat=817
My 8400 needs 1.28 actual (1.30 in bios) for 24/7 8x500. I just put in an 8600 and really haven't tried to find that point yet. Still trying to come to grips with 9x500 or 9.5x500. I didn't have much time last night to play with it. I do know it is running at 8x500 with the same 1.28 with no problems, Just don't know if it needs that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
MartinWhat kind of bug do you see in 1103? I am curious as I have only used 1102 and 1103 and want to know what might be different in 0803.
I have a problem with my P5Q-D, whenever i flash my bios to anything other than the original 605 bios the newer bios gets corrupted when the board has no power going to it and i have to restore it to the original bios
can i do anything to fix this or is it hopeless
thanks
E8600 Watercolinig
strap 400 bug in bios 0803/1103 :confused:
can not read/start from stramp 400
how are those temps being measured? i went ahead and set pll to 1.52, I had it set to 1.50 i hope i was pushing 1.8v thru this 8500 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Any1 got Q6600 @ 500 fsb primestable? If so would u please share your settings, thank u!
Quote:
Originally Posted by NBF
I have got mine to pass 1133mhz, PL8/Strong, SRC Enabled, Mem OC Charger enabled, 1.96v in bios. I like this kit but it barely failed PL7/moderate and PL8/stronger, I think I could up the voltage or maybe just try enabling pull ins and lowering the twister a bit. Do you know of a good free program that tests ram speed and performance for Vista64? Ill keep you up to date:)
BTW, with the "Pull Ins" when I go to enabled them do I turn them all on or just the ones my ram sticks are in, or does it matter?
I just use Everest Ultimate trial version, it gives Read bandwidth and latency, good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
In fact, if you can enable all pull ins, that means you should be able to go lower on PL. It's an extra tweak after you found lowest PL. But we all know sometimes things don't work exactly as they are meant to. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NBF
I have got PL8/Strong to pass with Pull Ins. I have not got PL7 to pass with them disabled but I have not tried PL7/Light or Lightest yet. Would PL8/Strong with pull ins do better then PL7/Light without them?
I ran some tests with Everest and got an average of 8950MB/S Read and 56.9ns Latency. Compared it with Pull In's turned off and then turned on there is not much difference at all. Was getting average of 8940 and 57 with pull ins disabled. I am about to try to pass PL7/Light
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OC TEST SYSTEM
CPU X3110 OEM
Mainboard ASUS P5Q Deluxe
RAM Kingston-5300 1x2 + G.SKILL DDR2 2G PC2-6400 HZ 1x2
2.2v 5-5-5-15-40
VGA x1600XT
Power ZM 750-HP
Cooler BIGWATER
OS WINDOWS XP PRO SP3
BIOS 1003
cpu : 1.425v
pll : 1.54v
gtl : 67x
ram : 2.2v 5-5-5-15-40
fsb : 1.3v
nb : 1.4v
Nice Q9450, mine couldn't even do 3.6GHz.
Nb voltage,not CPU...So no answers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pntgrd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Hey Leeghoofd, I'm not familiar with vPLL but should I be manually setting that to one up from minimum (1.52vPLL) for an older E6300? (2MB-Conroe), currently I have that option set to [auto]Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Also has anyone else substansiated jVidia's findings in regard to the board over-volting when left on auto? . . . could they be tied in to his specific board? . . . are we just assuming all boards act in the same way etc?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies! :)
Well there have been several users that had about the same findings as Jvidia... there was one report that with the last bios the ram overvolted less , yet on my board it was unchanged...Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
Lower is ofcourse always better mate... but with 65nm you can pump volts... 45nm is more fragile and itchy about tweaks... anyway set it to 1.6 and test, try to go as low as possible... ( min is 1.52)
Hope you can do at least 450FSB daily mate :up:
1.26 here mate for 500FSB and 1.36 for 600FSB benches... but it depends heavily on the CPU too... with my other E8400 I need about 0.02 less... but that CPU needs more FSB Term voltage and more Vcore... this is why it's so hard to give some settings to anyone... CPU (quad, dual core,...), Mobo , Ram amount, FSB, Ram speed used,... all these things matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Have you tried to reapply the TIM ? is that NB getting some good ventilation ? I got a big 20Cm fan blowing on the mobo...which cools NB and ram nicely..
Good luck mate
After all your efforts, so many different CPU's, it's maybe time to ditch some of ya hardware... crappy PSU, RAM ? cooling ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser777
Rattle, it's not temps it's voltages ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
My overvoltage table was made with a digital multimeter.
What are your other voltage settings please ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
I can't put anything diferent than lighter at 1130 @ PL=8 :shrug:
SRC Enabled, MemOC Enabled, Read training is AutoQuote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
1.26NB
1.32FSBv
1.96 RAMv
CPU is 8x425
1.41vcore
1.54 PLL
Edit: Those settings just passed PL7/light with Pull Ins disabled. Everest, Read 9100mb/s 54.9ns. Better then what i got on PL8/Strong with pull ins(see top post this page). Since PL7/Moderate failed the only thing I got left to do is test with Pull ins enabled on PL7/Light :)
hello
i have a problem mi motherboard no pass 460 stable in windows
the voltage i use: vcore 1.35, nb 1.5 dram 2.2
load line calibration enable
i have E8400 with OCZ reaper 9600
help me
This could be true, on 1103 bios I had to up my mem one notch to get it blend stable, all though i dont have a DMM to verify that the overvolt is lessQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
We need more info mate, full hardwarelist plz and fill in the template and post back plz... we don't even what speed you are going afterQuote:
Originally Posted by bigcesar
Template here :
P5QDlx Template
oh thanks...
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 460
PCI-E Frequency: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: AUTO
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Precharge: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage:1.9
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.5
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
Advance CPU Settings
ALL DISABLED
Nb voltage wwaay too much,try 1.3
NB Voltage is way high mate, PLL 1.9 are you mad ? FSB Term on AUTO = way overkill... try my above settings first... see if you can get her stable at 4Ghz with 500FSB... How much volt you will need for ya CPU is CPU dependant... but 1.4 should be easily doable... if it posts and gets into windows yet craps out after some time it might be required to tweak the GTL's...once you get it stable try to go lower on PLL voltage and Vcore... then NB voltage (I can do 500FSB at 1.26Nb voltage with 4gb of ram)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigcesar
If it's stable try to get the ram up to 1200Mhz, note that the rams are overvolted... 2.2 is around 2.28 actually... with 500FSB/1000Mhz ram PL 10 is possible, with 500FSB and 1200Mhz ram PL 8 might be possible... all depending on ya rams and other hardware... Clock twister and co can also be boosted but try to get 500FSB first...
Good bios is 1103 for me, no issues (till now)
Keep us posted what gives...
thanks very very much!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
http://img.godlike.cl/images/dibujohtm.jpg
very nice configuration thank:)
i happy
Try to run the rams at their foreseen speed mate, 1200mhz now... keep us posted if it remains stable... if stable then mess first with static read control to enabled... this for me brings the most boost in ram... next up is PL level ( transaction booster ) try 10 and test, if stable go 9... and keep them reapers cooled !!!
And maybe you can still go a bit lower on CPU Vcore and CPU PLL voltage (try eg 1.56)
my new results:
http://img.godlike.cl/images/26000.jpg
thanks leeghoofd...only up vcore 1.45
temp 40 full super pi is good??
Cesar, enable static read control... test stability, chech with MemSet ya PL level plz, if it's still on auto in the bios (it's prolly 13) try eg 11 or even 10... I would run 4ghz daily mate and try to go as low as possible on the Vcore... you get the best performance on these mobo's using a divider so not 1:1 runs...
Well I figured out that my Q9450 is fine thank god but, I have two bad BIOS chips. I am currently able to run my Q9450 which I am on right now, on the 0704 bios version with the one chip I have left but, I can not get it to work with the 1102 or the 1103. Asus said they would send me two new chips so. I am goin to get them on their way Monday I guess. It is weird how I can't get the newer BIOSes to work.
ASUS have removed bios 1103
2nd time a bios is removed ..... OMG.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
I wonder if it is because of me LMAO. :rofl:
why?
You must not have seen all the issues I have been having. Ok I can't take all the credit obviously but, there must have been alot of people having issues with it.
Interesting but i dont have any problems with 1103... For me this is the best BIOS for P5Q Deluxe ever and with it i can do much more than any other version... I do impossible things such as my E8400 OC-ed to 4,34 GHz, who wont to go any furter than 3600 MHz before with any BIOS, happened ONLY with 1103 and i am happy with this :clap: So maybe the point is why BIOS-es do different things on same boards :confused::shrug::shocked:
but 1103 still on there ftp not like 1003.
my best result:
http://img.godlike.cl/images/25281.jpg
I think reinstalare windows that data are corrupted ...
core temp and realtemp give me bad data temp...the asus probe: 30 idle 40 full is this well?
I have a Q6600 Vid is 1.2875
What do i need to do in order to push it stable @ 3.6ghz.
Cooler is Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, I just lapped it tonight and applied new AS5 paste in a line on CPU as per instructions on Artic Silver site.
I have a P5Q Deluxe mobo ... Bios Is 1103 The offical one.
Ram is G.Skill DDR2 DDR2_SDRAM 1000mhz 2 x 2GB = 4GB
PSU is 650w thermaltake toughpower
Video Card 1 x HIS 4850
Bascially does anyone have a template for this mobo and CPU combination fo what to try or use for a stable 3.6ghz .... yeah i know not all cpu's are the same and such.
Now what about this BIOS 1103 official?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
What is this Voltage you guys are referring to please? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
They are refering to the Vcore used for ocing high FSB on the Intel E8400 Dual Core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
This should give a good starting point mate, all depends a lot on ya CPU... maybe it can run with less Vcore, maybe it requires 1.55, it's a mix really of Vcore, GTL, PLL voltages... good luckPHP Code:ASUS P5Q DLX Template :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.5
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
NB Voltage mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
NB voltage sirQuote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
my max oc:
http://img.godlike.cl/images/maxocjfe.jpg
cant not stabilize to super pi, with this config:
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 511
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1280
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
CPU Voltage: 1.5325
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.710
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.700
CPU PLL Voltage:1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.36
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
ALL DISABLED
I can not climb over the Vcore because they do not have to temperatures...
probably ya rams capping out mate, try to run in sync here to get higher... many got over 600FSB but rams in sync or even single channel ops... and I hope this is just for a pi run and not for daily use...
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 475
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1:1 DDR400
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
CPU Voltage: 1.36
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.6450
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.6450
CPU PLL Voltage:1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.32
NB GTL Reference: .67
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
My goal is to get 4Ghz stable... Im on custom water, only the CPU and GPU are cooled by the water. What are my max voltage settings for the majors (PLL/VTT/NB etc) under water? I want to keep this chip for at least a year.
I have read A LOT of this thread but I just cant seem to get 4Ghz stable at all, most of the time, I cant even get her to boot.
I have a Q6600 Vid = 1.2875 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
Mate, see my 24/7 settings in my sig :up:
trying to get my E8500 4.3ghz stable...I think I may need to mess with the GTL voltages but I'm not sure what to do.
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 454
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1138
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: LIGHTER
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level [8]
CPU Voltage: 1.45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.65
CPU PLL Voltage:1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.08
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
I am back. Just got done testing my ram and got some ?s
G-Skill PI 8800 1100mhz (rated on 1.8-1.9v)
DRAM Frequency: 1133mhz
Timings: 5-5-5-15, trfc 55
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
SRC: Enabled
Read Training: Auto
Mem OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Light
Transaction Booster: PL7, All Pull ins enabled
NBv: 1.26
FSBv:1.32
This is the weird thing, I ran it 2 hours OCCT Test and it passed, then it benched Everest 9150mb/s and 93.7ns Latency. I then tried a quick Prime81 blend and it BSOD'd my system after 1 hour! So I then ran two more OCCT tests, 1 passed and 1 BSOD. What do I do here? Should I raise my Ram voltage 1 notch to 1.98(2.06-2.07 in reality) I don't know how much is too much when it comes to voltage for this kit, it is DDR2 and tons of DDR2 kits out there are handling 2.2v or more and I have decent heat spreaders on my kit, see here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231194
Last time I increased my voltage from 1.94 to 1.96 It helped me drop 2 whole PL levels, but I love my ram and do not want to burn them up. What do you guys think?
This is hilarious. They've removed the 1103 BIOS again.
Well all we cand do is wait and see...
Its still there.
P5Q Deluxe BIOS V1103
Update boot block.
# 2365
not on UK server
- Ok i just need to know why Super Pi (no matter what version 1.4 or 1.5) crashes on vista 64-bit even when i am at stock CPU settings and such. It will run once, then say next time crashes .. ???? .. Now i only tried to run one instance .. so i try running 4 and set infinity to each one and guess what 1-2 of them crash before 1M test is even half done. Am i mising somthing here or is this normal???
- Jnvidia thks i will try that out and ajust anything that is not same like my ram and volts for it... :)
Never mind about super PI .......... I found Hyper PI http://www.virgilioborges.com.br/vir...rges/hyperpi/#
Now this program uses similar thinsg as Super Pi actually it is Super Pi, but it allows for 4 instances right off the bat and allows for a snapshot of all 4 instances.
Now the thing is for Vista (no matter what version) you need to shut off 3 things for super PI and Hyper Pi, but the nice thing about Hyper PI is it has these TICK boxes to disable the services to allow it to run NP's.
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Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
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Originally Posted by BeastNotro
Haha I'm glad I'm not the only person who was confused! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I did think it was NBCore but it's always good to ask if in doubt! :)
this proggy stinks man. Caused me all types of problems when I disabled aero with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
Hey gurusan, obviously I can't help you with clocking Wolfdale as I have no experience with that silicon yet but I can help you analyse your own findings, like what is the max clock you have so far that is stable? and how was the journey from stock upwards? (i.e what was the main setting that allowed the bulk of the speed boost? vCore or?)Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
Look like you have pumped PLL and vCore heavily and I also notice you have started dabbling in more advanced memory settings. Have you tried taking the strain off the memory while you work on your max CPU clock, or is that memory set-up nice and loose?
Also is that a new chip or has it been abused by someone before you! :p:
the chip is brand new, I'm the first owner...and I put it in and set vcore to 1.44v and tried clocking to 4.3ghz but it was not stable. I tried stepping the clock down a bit and playing with GTL ratios but to no avail..Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
so I deleted all my settings and started with 1.408v load to shoot for my max 24/7 clock...I'm not going to run it past this voltage for my 24/7 clocks.
Currently I'm at 4133mhz (435fsb) stable as shown below...and I'm now priming 4.15ghz and if it's stable I think I'll leave it here.
As for my journey upwards from stock, I don't really journey that way lol. I usually just set my highest comfortable voltages and shoot for a high clock and work backwards from there.
And as for my memory, those settings are pretty loose. These OCZ sticks can do around 1200mhz with only 2.18v through them, currently they are running 2.16v (p5q overvolts by .08v) so they still have some headroom.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7...0orthosmq2.png
Well ran np's for me so far ran it 8 times now, so maybe its your OS that is giving you issues and not the program or your OC.... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Now maybe you ran an earlier version of it too?
I have 64-bit Vista works fine for me.
I see, wow your really a rush overclocker gurusan and of course I am the complete opposite!Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
I would have installed that chip and run it at stock minimum settings for a day or two for observation etc, then I would have started to reduce the vCore lower and lower until I found what the minimum voltage it needed to run prime stable, after finding its *True Stock VID* then its time to overclock, while this method is slower its heaps more methodical and you get to really see how your chip scales as you would be slowly but surely bumping the vCore as you journeyed upwards from stock/undervolt to overclocked/overvolt, you also get to see what is the *sweet-spot* of your chip before you get to that point of diminishing vcore returns.
I wouldn't want to slow down the way you work as it seems you have a new chip every week atm so testing time is limited but I would be interested to know what is the *True stock VID* of your chips before you overclock them and overvolt them to death! :D
:p I spose that stuff just isn't really of interest to me. I could care less how low I can put the voltage at stock, I just want the highest clock possible for my target 24/7 voltage and that usually only takes me a few hours to find...although it seems like it's been taking me longer lately as I'm confused by these GTL ratios.
but yeah we all have our own methods....doesn't really matter how you do it as long as you get your desired result.
Hmmm I see, the thing is, if you were more familiar with your chip and knew how it scaled it would become more clear where the problem lay presently i.e if it clocked to 4100MHz using 1.20vCore and then needed 1.40vCore to do 4150MHz you may get the ideal your chip is maxed and your well past the sweet spot. Scaling aside have you adjusted the reference voltage one at a time and tested slowly, have you tried reducing the multi on the chip to see if there is some weird FSB wall (unlikely but!) or have you leapfrogged a number of FSB-MHz in case there is some FSB-Pit lol :D
yeah but I don't really care about the sweet spot. If I can gain 20mhz by raising to 1.4v from 1.3v then I'll do it. 1.4v is fine, it's not as if temps are a problem.
And yeah I've used different multis and I have found no fsb holes yet.
Ah just pump 3.0 Vcore in to her and see what shes got.... lmao
Ok Gurusan I will leave you in peace, I can see I'm not helping. Key thing aside from the technical settings is a large amount of patience! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
I'm stuck on an overclock myself so I'm gonna post back in a while with more info, good luck m8! :up:
Hello
I'm having trouble detecting the temperature of E8400
http://img.godlike.cl/images/dibujoqdj.jpg
realtemp core temp and are stuck at a temperature and do not move in either idle or cn oc
SpeedFan moves the mark but very low temperatures (15 degrees am with environment and a Zalman 9700nt) and from what I read could be the TCAS (tc)
prolems the BIOS processor or programs?
PD: vid in coretemp 1.225 and real temp 1.15??
Hey bigcesar, it seems early Wolfdales were BETA and had one or two small issues, the incorrect or Stuck DTS has been corrected on INTEL's latest E0 stepping (by all accounts).
New Wolfdale Processor Stepping: Core 2 Duo E8600 Review
can not correct my problem?
did you test to calibrate the sensors with real temp ? if they didn't budge you got stuck sensors and can try to RMA the CPU... some CPU's are affected some don't ahve an issue at all...
why this problem?
http://img.godlike.cl/images/dibujotoq.jpg
Setting up my new P5Q-E today, so far so good and the tips in this thread have been awesome time-savers. My old P5K Pro would get my E7200 to 3.924 or so, 460fsb and DDR1224 with Reaper 1150's so I'm looking for good stuff here although my chip is not the best (anyone have a good E8x00 cheap?).
My Questions: What is the 'CPU Margin' setting in BIOS 1103? It wasn't there in the awful 0605 BIOS my board came with and I did not see that in this thread although 96 pages makes it easy to miss something.
....and while I'm at it: Anyone have a template for the RPR1150 RAM at high speeds on this board?
TIA!
Heat ? Vcore related, other voltage settings, etc... could be zillions of options there... what's the deal with the 2Mb Pi runs ? I have no clue what you want to prove with these screenshots... stability it is not at all... try 32MB for each core for better stability test...
And if Superpi is ya thing with air or watercooling, P45 is NOT the way to go...
Hey guys, Ive been doing some testing of this board's crossfire performance compared to another user on here who has a very similar setup but with an X48 board and there does not appear to be any performance deficit whatsoever. :up: Check out this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...91#post3206391
Hey jVIDIA,Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
I wanted to pick your brains about this vPLL thing, may I ask is there any chance the vPLL reading differs depending what CPU you have installed? Did you test with 65nm/45nm dual-cores and 65nm/45nm quad cores?
I am currently in testing with a 65nm Conroe-2MB and I just realised I have left the vPLL on auto, everything seems to be working well. I'm just doubting that the board sets the same vPLL for all the different chips and also why the heck would ASUS tune these boards to run the vPLL at 1.82v when left on auto? I'm still not sure what vPLL is but if I'm not mistaken isn't that the setting that perhaps caused alot of Wolfdale users to bOrk their chips when run too high (degredation or something?).
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies, I'm trying hard to get up to speed here and it is in my nature to question everything at the source so please don't take offence from my doubting nature!
There are people all around the world following your advice and giving your advice to others but having read this entire thread I cannot find the post with your initial findings and if these do indeed relate to all CPU's or just the one that was in your machine during testing! :bsod:
my best results for end of the day:
http://img.godlike.cl/images/24391mhc.jpg
how many volt on your NB?
new bios P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-1201 maybe final but dont know!
http://rapidshare.com/files/13642425...ELUXE-1201.rar
which brings improvements?Quote:
Originally Posted by nex-3
1.36 vNBQuote:
Originally Posted by darckcrystal
dont know sorry :( only found on asus serverQuote:
Originally Posted by bigcesar
edit: dont they say beta when it is one?
P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-1201
http://rapidshare.com/files/13642425...ELUXE-1201.rar
I can't boot to windows with it either but, I have already said that both of my bios are crap or the board is crap only time will tell.. I will cherish the day I can flash like normal again..Quote:
Originally Posted by nex-3
Someone have my same problem with bios 1103?
With some "strap" i have +60MHz finaly on my ram frequency!
ex. I set 1150MHz on my Corsair Dominator DDR2 and i check later that is 1220Mhz on Cpu-Z and Everest! And with other settings i can't bootup!
p.s. Sorry for my eng, im ita! Thanks!
I will try the bios 1103 which are the best for oc
link for 1103 ?
in the asus website:Quote:
Originally Posted by darckcrystal
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...l=P5Q%20Deluxe
so whats the deal with 1201 bios anyone try it?
I don't see 1201 bios on asus website, if it ain't listed i not trying it.
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...l=P5Q%20Deluxe
Just want someone to confirm what I think i remember reading somewhere before I purchased my deluxe - I know xfire drops the pci-e lanes down to x8 but If I dont use xfire they should both stay at x16 right?
Reason I ask is I plan on picking up a 4870x2 in the next couple weeks (pending good reviews) and since 8800+ cards can be used for physX now, ill just make my gts320 into an overpowered PPU running in the 2nd slot. However if just using a second card drops both lanes to x8 I may have to re-think the ppu (which only effects a few games, none of which i currently play...) as i think that could make a big dent in the 4870x2's performance since thats a lot of processing going through that slot.
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most of the bios ppl are using in this thread are beta bios they arent posted on their site but they are on their ftpQuote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
as soon as you put anything in the second slot it will drop them both to x8Quote:
Originally Posted by Runkett
thanks for clearing that up mumid.... but iv read somewhere that going from 16x to 8x isnt that much of a performance drop...