nice mreld3r :up:Quote:
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nice mreld3r :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by mreld3r
I thought you weren't gonna visit this thread anymore Sergio :p
You're better off testing mem with HCI Memtest.Quote:
Originally Posted by mreld3r
:rofl: I have a feeling he will be back here for a while!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Well I don't know if it just coindice or not But I just got my 9650 form mwave the day they dropped in price small blue/ white box Batch L827A945 and it has a great vid (1.16v) but the fourth sensor is stuck @ 38' and won't move til tem,ps rise above the 38' so like I said not sure but I think Jor3 might be onto something here ?:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by onthepulse
Would really suck for intel to do this but for tyhe same token wouldn't surprise me:shakes:
Can't let go mate :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
people visit pages 3-4-5 and see even then people were getting vids of 1.25 and stuck sensors,all this talk is making us new users feel like weve been cheated but in fact it just a poor sensor design.
Sorry radaja wasn't my intention...
From day one 45nm CPU's have been plagued by bad, stuck sensors. But don't forget that it can also be not working on your mobo, but they can work perfectly on another mobo or even bios version for ya mobo... I've owned enough 45nm CPU's
andressergio no need to say sorry.but like leeghoofd said this is nothing new.just a very bad sensor design(intel even says as much)
Mine are stuck in a funny way actually. Sensor 0 seems to be working perfectly, 1 is exactly 7 degrees lower than 0 all the time, 2 and 3 work perfectly above 39c but won't ever read anything below that.
I've mounted the cpu block at least 4 times with new tim each time, yielding the exact same results every time.
The sensor 2 and 3 thing happened after running the chip for 3 to 4 days in my system. At first they worked just as well as 0.
As long as I have more than one sensor working reasonably well under load, i feel the thermal shutdown can failsafe if there is an issue.
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Originally Posted by radaja
Screw the sensor I want speed and this cpu provides plenty:) Dont get me wrong Im not getting a 60% overclock as I did with my Q6600 but I also didnt hit 4GHz+ on air with that either :) And as far as I'm concerned I got a 1.16vid and damn happy with that :yepp:
And not "1" mhz more,,,I spent all day and this is all she has in her.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/503199.png
You just described my e8400. My Q9650 is on it's way. I hope that I get a decent batch.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
bababooeyHTJ,they are all pretty good batches in my opinion.i mean three or four different people bought 9650's within a fews days of when i bought mine all different batches and all great OCers.hell if it does 4.1ghz then to me it an awesome chip.and by the way........YOUR GOING TO HAVE ALOT OF FUN WITH IT!
Hi Guys,
Got the Gigabyte EP45-Extreme to play with my Q9650 L820A930 07/08.
Main objective was to get to know the Extreme board and compare it with my UD3P.
I used the strap 5:6 and I got to say it was a pleasure at 1230Mhz rams where doing fine. Still un-tweaked but if I have more time during the week I'll post updates.
All low volts for people that want 24/7 use: 1.32vcore, 1.30vtt, 1.50pll, 1.440vnb, 1.20vsb (except ram that was on Auto but can be lowered to 2.060vdimm).
[System Setup and Ranking]
CPU: Q9650@4352Mhz 512x8.5 :up::up::up::up::up:
Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-EXTREME DDR2 :up::up::up::up:
Cooler: CollIT Domino A.L.C.:up::up:
Ram: 4gb G.Skill Pi 9600 :up::up::up::up::up:
Video: ATI HD4850 :up::up:
PSU: SilverStone OP1000-E :up::up::up::up::up:
Voltages:
1.32 vcore / 1.30vtt / 1.44mch
[System Pics]
http://i40.tinypic.com/295pv7p.jpg*********http://i40.tinypic.com/2dw88s6.jpg
[BIOS Template for Gigabyte Users]
Code:******Gigabyte EP45 EXTREME******
[u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.5
CPU Frequency ...........................: 435Ghz (512x8.5)
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 518Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz
C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Profile1
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1230Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD .........................................: 5
tRP'...........................................: 5
tRAS..........................................: 15
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................:3
tWTR..........................................:3
tWR............................................:4
tRFC...........................................:50
tRTP...........................................:3
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
Channel A
Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter]
Static tRead Value.........................: 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 9
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 7
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto
write Training .......................: Auto
Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto
Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto
Channel B
Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter]
Static tRead Value.........................: 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 9
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 7
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Write Training .......................: Auto
Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto
Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto
{U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.450v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.30v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.806v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: 0.843v
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.440v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; 0.823v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.500v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.200v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: Auto
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Note: * refers to 45nm CPU
[Stability Test Prime95 Small FTT's 3hrs]
http://i43.tinypic.com/k011y9.jpg
[Memory Benchmark]
http://i43.tinypic.com/25rjrzp.jpg
Goal is to see whats the max stable I can go on FSB with the 8.5 multi. Baby steps...
Congrats Jor !!!
That's a damn good lookin' setup :up::up:
Cheers
Sergio
hey jor, i wanna see what that board can do. I 'almost' bought an open-box version of that board. But I wasn't sure of what it could do. I "know" that a ud3p could clock well, its already proven itself.
If anyone can clock an extreme board; YOU can do it.
I know that the extreme version has a lot better voltage reg. So theoretically it can really do great. I'm just not sure about the bios, and its updates. The ud3p seems to get a lot more updates. (even though; they dont seem to be working real good). :shrug:
I really like the Nb-cooling on that extreme; my ud3p gets very hot to the touch with high-fsb runs.
You know, for 24/7 you might wanna consider a lower FSB Termination (vtt) voltage. 1.5v 24/7 is gonna put your 45nm into an early grave. I would recommend to try and keep it under 1.4v for daily use.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkresho
My chip as stuck sensors too, and I can bench at 4.5GHz (with less than 1.5v cpu) on air so it's not exactly a duff chip. I considered sending it back but decided it wasn't worth the hassle. Once I start stress testing they all level out at the top, but 3 of them don't go under 40C. Luckily, one of them works all the way down to my idle which is about 27C.
My first Q9650 was vid 1.25 bought back in Sept had no stuck sensors but the MB killed two of its cores. The one I replaced it with in Oct also has a vid 1.25 but it has two stuck sensors. It seems to clock ok see sig below. I am not sure the sensors are designed well but as long as it clocks ok I am fine with it.
jor3lBR,awesome!that looks like a very fun board.i noticed that it has more ref voltage settings,does it help with the lower voltages maybe?keep us posted
Looking forward to seeing a 4.6+Ghz stable Jor :cool:
more ref settings,,,man, that should keep you busy for a while.
change one; reboot, test
then, do it again. remember the olden days,,couple of years ago.
It was increase the fsb till it wasnt stable anymore, then back off a couple of mhz and quit.
And regarding the stuck sensor issue core 0 for me never goes below 38c the others are fine though. All the cores catch up to each other during load.
I overclocked another Q9650 a couple of days ago and there were 2 cores that were stuck from memory never falling below 37c. It overclocked well though hitting 490x9 Prime blend stable (overnight) on an X48 mobo
Nice Jor, seems that board goes ok for a A2 rev. Pity is has better VRM for cpu/ram but only an A2 NB, I'd hazard a guess the UD3P will be better than it based on that and from results Ive seen on other forums.
mreld2r - there is only 2 cpu refs as opposed to one, its actually easier to set up. One is way too limiting, there should ideally be four, like on my M2F.
i installed my new power supply and it seems i was able to lower some volts and still be stable.http://i44.tinypic.com/2hf048x.jpghttp://i39.tinypic.com/20ru5fs.jpg
and which PSU was that?Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
Well I got mine a week ago it was in the old big box:
L824B277
09/17/08
one stuck sensor at 37
everything at stock 400x9 @3600 with 1.16 vcore prime stable so far will try more soon :)
does any one have this chip with asus rampage formula if so can you give me setting for 4GHz 24/7 to try :D
WFDragon, its the one in my sig.i just never changed it til now.i was using an antec basiq 550w.which was good but i did notice while under load the 12v would drop from 12.14 to 11.49.with this new one ,at idle its 12.51 and under load it drops to 12.49.i think it is a little more stable and might be why i can now run lower volts on the vcore without errors.also this new one has a single 12v rail.the antec was 3 or 4 12v rails.
I have the exact same batch and pack date as you, still in the box though, I am waiting for some more parts :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by sigi
How does 450x9 handle? :)
I tried at 450x9 with 1.25V set in bios which is for me around 1.21 real and it booted just fine :up: but then the Windows BSOD but it need a little tweaking i guess but it looks promising so far I don't want to overclock straight I will try to clock it more in a few days :)Quote:
I have the exact same batch and pack date as you, still in the box though, I am waiting for some more parts
How does 450x9 handle?
Me too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey Padge
I got the 4GHz @ 1,232V || 4,2@1,31 maybe @1,29 || 4,3 @ 1,344...
Great Batch!
Thank you my friend!Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
I'm still testing but it seams to be a very good board with low volts all around, I have to test the UD3P and this one further 2 days is nothing to compare them. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by mreld3r
Thanks mate, yes it is a fun board but it needs a LCC mod that I'm going to do today. I noticed that too I needed less volts but I need to play with the UD3P with the new stuff Ilearned from this board to compare them :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
Thank Cryptik! Well I like the A3 on the NB too bad the Extreme is A2 but it's not showing it's age. I like the Extreme cause it has no bugs at all (5:6 strap/mch ref voltage) only problem is that it needs a pot mod to reduce vdroop. I think this board can fly with the mod but again I need more time testing both to really compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Hey Kill_a_wat please take a look at my thread here:Quote:
Originally Posted by kill_a_wat
4906Mhz Benching and Soft Stability tests:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=217439
I did it just for the fun on a Snow Day at work.
Could not Prime95 cause it always blow the poor $61 WC system away but I did 2 SuperPi32m runs, HyperPi 4 threads, 3Dmark01, 05 and 06, wPrime stability, played Crysis for 25min and ET Quake Wars.
It seamed to me very solid for day to day use and the temps on that cheap Domino where amazing.
But I'll get back to Prime95 when I get better cooling working!
:up::up::up:
Got one here on a 790i Ultra doin 4.191GHz on 1.248Vcore under an Enzotech Ultra-X(Air)
9x465
1.1875VID
The most amazing thing about this chip is that it's only needing 1.15VTT :D
Your scaring me here, I just got a chip from the same batch with no stuck sensors, luckily as long as she clocks well (a stuck sensor would be a good excuse to RMA a sorry clocker). I had an e8400 C0 with the same VID, a stuck sensor, and it was a sorry clocker. Im hoping that this one is a decent clocker. Ill find out tomorrow when I get the chance to do some testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
4.05 without breaking a sweat. so glad i upgraded from my q9450!
Batch: L827A
VID: 1.2250v
These processors should come stock @ 4Ghz :rofl:
4.3Ghz is the new 4ghz for these chips it seems
Mine is average and has done 4Ghz 1.24v 25 run IBT stable
I'm waiting for the Q9750 thread.. :wasntme:
Don't worry, these things are all hit and miss and I do not think batch number means much. My replacement should be here Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
I think your joking but if not and Intel made a Q9750 you would have a 3.2ghz stock chip stuck with a 8x multi right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
No a 9.5 multi mate, don't think they will drop multi down and higher FSB like they did with the QX9770...Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
I just started to oc my chip. So far it seems like a decent clocker for a chip with a 1.25 VID, better than my e8400 atleast. Ive allways been worried about loadline calibration. Would I be better off (safer) running my chip as it is now with loadline disabled 1.42 vcore in bios and 1.32 full load after vdroop or turning on loadline with a lower voltage for 24/7 useage? The spikes worry me.
ahhhh, so maybe intel isn't EOLing 775 quads that are good after all..... this is good news, good news indeed
Not that good those volts are for 450x9, but still better than my wolfdale. I was hoping for 475x9 with these voltages, but I have yet to fine tune anything. I just threw in some ballpark voltages. It posted at alot less and has been priming for about a half hour now. *knocks on wood*Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Wow this is good news! Another 775 to clock!Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
not having too much luck with this L820B033 Q9650
am stable at 1.3v @ 4ghz
but with 8 multi & 500fsb it won't get past bios; which brings me to my question. I've tried as far as 1.4vcore to get it stable but no luck; but am able to do 480fsb 8.5m @ 1.4 The obvious is my subsystem like NB FSB etc but I was stable running Large FFT's at a 6multi & 500 fsb with 1.3v...
so, is 1.4v too much for 24/7 on custom H20 capping at about 60c-load?
In bios, idle, load? Is loadline enabled? I would say no either way, though. I ran my e8400 around that for a while with no voltage degredation at all. Im priming away for 5 hours now at 445x9 with 1.328 vcore now, 1.39 idle. Vdroop is huge on my board. I'm topping out at 53c on two cores and 48c on the other two. I really need to do a washer mod on my TRUE. Ill be swaping out my psu soon. Ill do it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by 529th
what chipset are you on? I think 1.4v is fine 24/7 as long as your temps are under control :) I've been crunching 24/7 for a few weeks now at 1.4v/4300mhz with my highest core @ 50C and I have had no issues at allQuote:
Originally Posted by 529th
To: Bababoooey (LOL) forgot about that guy... but currently I've changed my vcore to 1.368v; fsbT to 1.3650v; NB to 1.51v; on a Maximus II Formula 1901 bios set to 480fsb & 8.5multi and it just did 17minutes of Large FFt's prime and am testing small FFT's currently... working my way up to 500fsb & 8 multi
i can't remember any of the other settings but I haven't messed with the GTL's or much more
EDIT: sorry SNiiPE DoGG. A P45 Asus Maximus II Formula board
I would be much more worried about that vNB, why so high? Playing with my gtls made a huge difference with stability. Just be sure to set your PLL manually as well. I wouldn't worry untill you stsrt to get near 1.45 VCC for 24/7 useage, but thats just my opinion.
No, you'd have a 3160/12mb/1333 E0 Yorkie with a 9.5 multi.. that clocks like hell!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
That "partial" shot was on air, on an old Asus P5K Premium.
did short stability testing ...Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
with ~ 20min of large FFT's and ~ 20 min of small FFT's things went smooth at these settings
vcore: 1.36875v
PLL: 160600v
FSB termination: 1.36500v
NB: 1.51075
480fsb & 8.5multi
I'm running a 120x38mm fan over the NB area
btw, this is on custom H20 ...didn't know if i mentioned that...
EDIT: failed OCCT - back to the drawing board
I should apologise. Didn't mean to derail the thread.
just thought you guys might like to see this one..:bows:
Is that Q9750 legit? It would explain the binning on these chips recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
no, movieman is lying and he definitely doesn't have a q9750Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
(sorry for the sarcasm)
Legit is a funny word..but it is a 3160/12mb/1333 E0 Yorkie and those numbers are legit and you guys know I'm no great bencher so you'd probably do better with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
I laughed at this..Good one!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Sorry I wasn't sure what to think. I didn't mean to offend anyone, sorry.
nah man its all good :) I just had to poke a little fun at ya :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Hey can you just flip up that fan grate and cook me up some burgerzzzz.
So how do you like the extreme compared to our beloved UD3P? :rolleyes:
:shrug:Quote:
Legit is a funny word..but it is a 3160/12mb/1333 E0 Yorkie and those numbers are legit and you guys know I'm no great bencher so you'd probably do better with it.
Man you are such a tease! :yepp:
:eek: