Double top for d5, anyone have plans for something like that?

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10-16-2009, 07:26 PM
Silverhawk

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

OK, you gave me thinking for some hours.
Here is what I came up with. I think it is the best solution there could be made to link pumps together.
This is not final version. Plan si to make the antivibrating mounting fot 5,25" bay.
You'll find there also a possibility to mount reservoir via EK Multioption link.
Let me know what you think!

D5 :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
10-16-2009, 08:22 PM
Jimmer411

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

OK, you gave me thinking for some hours.
Here is what I came up with. I think it is the best solution there could be made to link pumps together.
This is not final version. Plan si to make the antivibrating mounting fot 5,25" bay.
You'll find there also a possibility to mount reservoir via EK Multioption link.
Let me know what you think!

Finally a good reason to start visiting the WC section again :shocked:

Any ETA on a release date? Price? I dont care about size, Ive got a UFO :D
10-19-2009, 01:50 AM
Jimmer411

Dont care about bling and care even less about coolance. Need more EK double D5 top :)
10-19-2009, 01:58 AM
Edward88

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Originally Posted by Jimmer411

Dont care about bling and care even less about coolance. Need more EK double D5 top :)

:up:
11-16-2009, 02:54 AM
Eddy_EK

2 Attachment(s)

Update for you.
Ready in 2 days.

Price not set yet.
Available mountings: 5,25 BAY mount or Sandalone.
11-16-2009, 03:10 AM
Edward88

Nice!!!

Can't wait to get one =)
11-16-2009, 03:24 AM
Blacky

Wow I must say that looks so damn good! finally theres a hope for dual d5 top!
11-16-2009, 03:49 AM
Edward88

Eddy i think it would be nice that you include in the package a multioption res connector for those that already have your res!
11-16-2009, 05:26 AM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by Edward88

Eddy i think it would be nice that you include in the package a multioption res connector for those that already have your res!

It would be better if only those ho wish to make it res combo to buy it, otherwise it would just rise the price.
11-16-2009, 05:43 AM
dr-

quick! someone get one of these babies to skinnee for testing! maybe i would shelve my plans to get a RD-30 and get one of these instead :D

on a side note, eddy, you never cease to amaze me with your dedication to the watercooling community. always there, and always willing to go the extra mile. well done! :clap:
11-16-2009, 07:34 AM
rogard

That is an awesome top eddy!
11-16-2009, 07:50 AM
woffen

A pic of it mounted in the 5.25 Bay would be interesting:rolleyes:
11-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Santzia

This is what i have been looking for.
Going to order it the minute it becomes available.

/ Santzia
11-17-2009, 09:07 AM
recta

Hello,
Where I can buy this is and for how much
Thanks.
11-17-2009, 09:19 AM
JASSAF

on the link http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/pu...etal-g1-4.html :eek:

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Originally Posted by recta

Hello,
Where I can buy this is and for how much
Thanks.
11-17-2009, 09:43 AM
Tomder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Update for you.
Ready in 2 days.

Price not set yet.
Available mountings: 5,25 BAY mount or Sandalone.

Eddy,
Do you know how the performance of the dual top is compared to a dual D5 + EK Xtop V2 is ??
11-17-2009, 10:57 AM
Utnorris

Hey Eddy,
You know what would be cool? Is if you also made one that was a double top for two separate loops. That would look sweeeet.
11-17-2009, 11:19 AM
ChielScape

now we only need a similar dual DDCtop with reservoir option.... there are several dual DDC tops and not a single one with a res option.
11-17-2009, 02:27 PM
InCredible

wow..beautiful..will be getting this sucker..and another d5 it looks like.

someone needs pics installed asap :)
11-17-2009, 09:14 PM
Computurd

looks nice:cool:
11-17-2009, 11:03 PM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by Utnorris

Hey Eddy,
You know what would be cool? Is if you also made one that was a double top for two separate loops. That would look sweeeet.

Good thinking,
Dual top with dual res combo for 2 separate loops.
This could be done easily and even cheaper.
I'll think about it.

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Originally Posted by ChielScape

now we only need a similar dual DDCtop with reservoir option.... there are several dual DDC tops and not a single one with a res option.

You will not believe it... Already in production ;) On similar design like this one.
11-19-2009, 03:28 AM
ChielScape

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

You will not believe it... Already in production ;) On similar design like this one.

i wanna have your babies.

and with babies i mean dual DDC tops.
11-19-2009, 04:26 AM
Sadasius

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Originally Posted by ChielScape

i wanna have your babies.

and with babies i mean dual DDC tops.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
11-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Elusid

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

show me 1 top that doesnt use that ring...

:rofl:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=106

Ha! I knew it would work, look, no plastic ribbed ring :p:
11-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Ketzer7

Eddy, I presume there's no issue with mounting this with the outlets facing down, is there? Thanks!
11-27-2009, 07:55 PM
Spawn-Inc

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Originally Posted by Ketzer7

Eddy, I presume there's no issue with mounting this with the outlets facing down, is there? Thanks!

i would imagine it's the same as the stock top, you can, but it's not recommend to do that.
11-27-2009, 09:18 PM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by Spawn-Inc

i would imagine it's the same as the stock top, you can, but it's not recommend to do that.

True.
You have to stick also with the pump manufacturers instructions.
11-28-2009, 12:16 AM
Ketzer7

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Originally Posted by Spawn-Inc

i would imagine it's the same as the stock top, you can, but it's not recommend to do that.

Really? I checked both Laing's and Swiftech's sites and didn't see anything about recommending against the output facing down.

However, I did see the stock EK top's diagram in the installation manual showing it wasn't OK to have the input facing down which is obvious, but again nothing about the output facing down as long as the input remained in one of the correct orientations.

On the dual top, even with the output facing down, the input is still facing straight ahead level, and that's what I was asking about, the output, not the input just to clarify. Based on that can you confirm it's still not recommended to orient the pumps this way? Thanks!
11-28-2009, 02:42 AM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by Ketzer7

Really? I checked both Laing's and Swiftech's sites and didn't see anything about recommending against the output facing down.

However, I did see the stock EK top's diagram in the installation manual showing it wasn't OK to have the input facing down which is obvious, but again nothing about the output facing down as long as the input remained in one of the correct orientations.

On the dual top, even with the output facing down, the input is still facing straight ahead level, and that's what I was asking about, the output, not the input just to clarify. Based on that can you confirm it's still not recommended to orient the pumps this way? Thanks!

Hi!

I'd say the D5 top manuals were written on base of DDC as they are not recommended to mount it upside down.
Therefore I suggest you stick with pump manufacturers manuals.
11-28-2009, 05:27 AM
ChielScape

the output facing down is OK, just not the input, it would have to suck the water up and pumps arent good at that. besides that the impeller will be pulled down by gravity, increasing wear on the parts.
11-28-2009, 10:23 AM
Spawn-Inc

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Originally Posted by ChielScape

the output facing down is OK, just not the input, it would have to suck the water up and pumps arent good at that. besides that the impeller will be pulled down by gravity, increasing wear on the parts.

exactly, the output can face down, just not input for the reason above.
11-28-2009, 10:50 AM
Tex707

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Originally Posted by ChielScape

the output facing down is OK, just not the input, it would have to suck the water up and pumps arent good at that. besides that the impeller will be pulled down by gravity, increasing wear on the parts.

Are you sure about this? The way I see it, the pump does not have to suck because the water loop exists and the pump is usually at the bottom of the loop. Is there a chance that the electromagnetic field of the pump stator keeps the impeller always in the same position axially?

.
11-29-2009, 04:19 AM
ChielScape

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Originally Posted by Tex707

Are you sure about this? The way I see it, the pump does not have to suck because the water loop exists and the pump is usually at the bottom of the loop. Is there a chance that the electromagnetic field of the pump stator keeps the impeller always in the same position axially?

.

the water sucking part is mainly of importance when bleeding. after thats done and the res is properly sealed, the pump will just push into itself, but the main part is that while the magnetic field will keep the impeller up, it wont do so sufficiently i guess... all i know is that there are very specific mentions of not to mount your pump like that. there may be some other reason but i think these are the most likely ones. or maybe extra resistance burning it out or something but thats all i can think of.
11-30-2009, 03:52 AM
Erklat

Hi!

I would like to avoid opening new thread for something which might prove as silly question :D
Since this is about dual tops, it is somewhat similar.

In the near future I am planning to add second loop for GPU since I'd like to keep CPU loop dedicated. In the process, I am certainly going to need larger res
since I have the smallest one form EK which has capacity od 150ml for that. I saw this 5.25" dual bay reservoir from XSPC, this is the product - link.

Now, I'm wondering are these bay reservoirs better or worse compared to standalone reservoirs, and is this a good idea since pump is not going to be the lowest component in the loop?

Until I add second loop, only one chamber will be used, so, is it going to affect loop's performance compared to this setup with standalone reservoir? And how much liquid this
reservoir takes since XSPC does not mention this number?
11-30-2009, 06:21 AM
millertime359

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Originally Posted by žile

Hi!

I would like to avoid opening new thread for something which might prove as silly question :D
Since this is about dual tops, it is somewhat similar.

In the near future I am planning to add second loop for GPU since I'd like to keep CPU loop dedicated. In the process, I am certainly going to need larger res
since I have the smallest one form EK which has capacity od 150ml for that. I saw this 5.25" dual bay reservoir from XSPC, this is the product - link.

Now, I'm wondering are these bay reservoirs better or worse compared to standalone reservoirs, and is this a good idea since pump is not going to be the lowest component in the loop?

Until I add second loop, only one chamber will be used, so, is it going to affect loop's performance compared to this setup with standalone reservoir? And how much liquid this
reservoir takes since XSPC does not mention this number?

A res alone will not effect performance. Having the pump at the bottom of the res is more for ease of bleeding. It will just take a bit longer to bleed.
11-30-2009, 09:16 PM
kone

Eddy, any photo for that ek res on this top?
i would like take one this top.
11-30-2009, 11:01 PM
Eddy_EK

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3D model pictures here.
11-30-2009, 11:05 PM
bentleya

Do you think it's possible to post the internals of the new Double DDC top Eddy? Would be great to see the flow layout.
11-30-2009, 11:27 PM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by bentleya

Do you think it's possible to post the internals of the new Double DDC top Eddy? Would be great to see the flow layout.

It is very much the same as with Dual D5 top.
12-01-2009, 06:40 AM
millertime359

Are you going to have a dual loop D5 top coming out soon Eddy? That third render looks pretty cool.
12-01-2009, 08:37 AM
Ketzer7

Eddy, your picture of the DDC dual top V2 doesn't show an input port on the same side as the output. Will there be one on the same side as the output or will the only input be from the top of the block where the res is shown in your picture? Thx!
12-01-2009, 08:44 AM
Eddy_EK

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Originally Posted by Ketzer7

Eddy, your picture of the DDC dual top V2 doesn't show an input port on the same side as the output. Will there be one on the same side as the output or will the only input be from the top of the block where the res is shown in your picture? Thx!

No, sorry, no place there to make an inlet. Also it would be too restrictive.
You can use reservoir or 90° fitting.
12-01-2009, 09:05 AM
InCredible

i def want the third render..
12-01-2009, 09:48 AM
Erklat

Yeah, the third one is great.
Those screw holes on the side are intended for 5.25", right?

In what a timespan can this be expected? Hate to break loops uniformity since all are EK components :up:
12-01-2009, 10:00 AM
Eddy_EK

Quote:

Originally Posted by žile

Yeah, the third one is great.
Those screw holes on the side are intended for 5.25", right?

In what a timespan can this be expected? Hate to break loops uniformity since all are EK components :up:

Yes it will be for 5,25" bay like normal dual d5 top.
Available in max 2 weeks.
12-01-2009, 11:01 AM
Ketzer7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

No, sorry, no place there to make an inlet. Also it would be too restrictive.
You can use reservoir or 90° fitting.

Ok cool, thanks for the info :up:

How soon are these planned for, same two weeks as the other D5 top?
12-01-2009, 11:04 AM
ChielScape

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1259650869

Thats pure sex, Ed. :up:

any chance the chamfer on the sides could be made to match that of the DDC in size?
12-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Eddy_EK

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChielScape

Thats pure sex, Ed. :up:

any chance the chamfer on the sides could be made to match that of the DDC in size?

No, sorry, because of the bay mount holes position.
02-03-2010, 02:15 PM
BringerOdeath

Any reviews on this yet?? Skinnee??;)
02-03-2010, 10:37 PM
woffen

Will there be a dual loop DDC version as well Eddy?
02-03-2010, 11:11 PM
Eddy_EK

Hm...
Haven't thought about it yet... Do you think it would be interesting to buy?
02-03-2010, 11:13 PM
Waterlogged

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Hm...
Haven't thought about it yet... Do you think it would be interesting to buy?

:slap:

Does that answer your question? ;)
02-03-2010, 11:50 PM
skinnee

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Originally Posted by BringerOdeath

Any reviews on this yet?? Skinnee??;)

Don't have the EK V2 presently, but I'll look into getting one. I finished the Dual DDC testing (seperate single tops, XSPC Dual, XSPC Triple, EK V1 Dual) before the holiday but have not compiled all the data and written the review yet, I need to run PQ on the DDC 3.25 as well. Currently the Swiftech Stack is occupying that portion of the lab, testing with 6 fans. Will be going back to DDC's when that gets done.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Hm...
Haven't thought about it yet... Do you think it would be interesting to buy?

:slap:

Does that answer your question? ;)

Yes please, and Delrin too.
02-04-2010, 02:14 AM
BringerOdeath

Thx for the reply skinnee!! After my T3 dies, I saw this and was interested....Do you think it would work with a D4 and a D5? or would it have to be 2 D5's?:confused:
02-04-2010, 02:53 AM
woffen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Hm...
Haven't thought about it yet... Do you think it would be interesting to buy?

I think that would be one of the most interesting parts in a while for DDC users:yepp:

Edit:

@ Eddy, if you were to make one, could the top of the reservoir be used as inlet and the bottom of the reservoir just plugged?
02-04-2010, 08:00 AM
skinnee

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Originally Posted by BringerOdeath

Thx for the reply skinnee!! After my T3 dies, I saw this and was interested....Do you think it would work with a D4 and a D5? or would it have to be 2 D5's?:confused:

Mixing pumps could seriously shorten the life span of your pumps, you can do it... meaning a boulder won't fall from the sky once you plug the two molex connectors in. However, I personally don't recommend it as I don't know the true effects long term or even what mixing the pumps would do performance wise.

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