TBH, those tanks don't look very well secured,either.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
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TBH, those tanks don't look very well secured,either.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
So the MAGICOOL is not recommended?
And among the other two, XSPC RX-120 and TFC Faser-X ... which to choose?
Thanks
I'd imagine it truly depends on your budget and preference...
In UK all three rad have the same price, £ 38/39! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Exavier
where? i found the 360 for 70£ :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by colex
the PA is 60£
tell me!
Parlo dei radiatori piccoli da 120mm no dei 360!Quote:
Originally Posted by OdinEidolon
I'm looking for 120mm radiator not 360!
Comunque vedi qui
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/
http://watercooled-pcs.co.uk/
http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/
Ciao
ah ok... peccato...Quote:
Originally Posted by colex
comunque se vuoi fare una acquisto negli UK, mandami un PM che potremmo dividere le spedizioni :up:
Mi sà che devo fare due ordini distinti, uno in Germania da Acquacomputer per i raccordi Bitspower e il radiatore e l'altro in UK per ventole, WB cpu, ed altri piccoli accessori e le spese da ChilledPC in UK sono di 8/9 euro... poco!Quote:
Originally Posted by OdinEidolon
dont make mistakes. if you wanne be happy for long time then choose the TFC.
Care to back that up? If not, you better prepare to don your flame retardant coverall.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTyper
Nah, he's just a TFC shill. Look up his backlog.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTyper
:rofl::up::clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
I'm so glad someone else said this first, otherwise there'd be more "Waterlogged, quit trolling" posts from the real trolls.:rolleyes:
Eh, some of us have eyes. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
:rofl: Andy, you must have drawn the short straw, you just can't win on this rad.
I went down and checked the fan spacing on both sides of the rad, they are consistent. What I did notice was the gap from the edge of the fan to the tank was greater on the end tank than the inlet/outlet tank. The difference is about 1mm-1.5mm between the gap on the bottom versus the top.
I hear you loud and clear, I've had some similar situations with other vendors...a couple WTF's turn into :rofl: :rofl: because there is no other way to deal with it.
Were my observations what you were referring to or something completely different? :shrug:
Oh my...:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTyper
Andy looks like you got a dud there! :rofl:
This is really sad . Thanks for the heads up on the fan mount , mcoffey . I would not have thought to check the fan mountings for trueness .
I have a rx120 and a rx240 and had planned to get rid of my feser 360 and replace it with the rx360 . I've been water cooling for 6 years and have been wanting
a rad with this open fin design ,fitting size and price point forever . These rad's look to be a perfect replacement for the TC's with their fitting and shroud issues .
Plus the TC's and shrouds are getting to be a drag to find .
The rx120 fan mount is .25mm out of square and .25mm to wide on both sides of the rad . With a little extra effort you can mount a fan . No big deal .
The rx240 on the other hand is off the wall . The fan mount is square enough . Butt the width is 1.4mm to wide......1.4mm . Without slotting out the fan and case mount holes
at least 1.4mm there is no way to mount this rad...............truely sad .
Both of these rad's have the marred paint prob's too . Although not as bad as mcoffey's . The paint also smells like a hazardous waste site as well .
The second biggest drag is that this reflects terribly on XSPC . I know that XSPC designed the rads and had them built elsewhere . But someone should have made sure the paint was
dry and that the fans would fit . I've had such good luck and service from all the res tops and regular tops I've used, this is just a shame . Damn its such a drag to have what should be
a great new product in your hands only to find whomever assymbled it screwed the pooch.........damn .
Hopefully Jab-Tech can help me get this sorted out . Which is the third big drag . I hate it that Jab-Tech has to deal with this . In todays bad economy its such a bummer to have something
like this screw with your already to small bottom line .
Thanks skinnee for your testing efforts .Very nice work !
j
The true tragedy is that John even has to deal with this . Yeah I wish I could use mine as is . But there is no way short of welding up the holes and redrilling and tapping them . I thought of taking the damn thing to a radiator shop and having them remount the side pannels . But the fins are already tight up against the side pannels and they would have to crush the rad 1.4mm to refit them . Anyway thanks for your post on the issue I in my wildest dream would not have expected to get a radiator that you could not bolt a fan to .Quote:
Couldn't agree more and John couldn't have been better about mine. I'll make do with mine because I'll use it on my MC bench.
But XSPC is a tragedy for sure. Between the fillport being hosed up on the res pump top combo, and this POS excuse for a rad, last dime they'll ever get out of me for sure. It seems like each and everytime they release a new product someone get burned. Bad threads on a res, leaky O rings on FC blocks, poor rads, the list goes on and one and on.
GL,
andyc
GL
J
That sucks, sounds like you got one out of the scratch and dent bin or maybe one produced on Chinese new years, maybe during one of those big earth quakes knocked the jigging off!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Ouch mcoffey! That sucks bigtime! I was looking at buy one of the RX360's but held off and bought from the devil I knew (tfc), now I'm glad I did but it's too bad we don't have a new strong competitor for radiators like I thought/hoped we did. I was planning on using an xspc on my next guinea pig aka free build for someone else :P
Ouch man, don't take it so hard!:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Sure they have their QC issues, just like any other company... Maybe... :rolleyes:
'Tis a shame, they get decent products on the market at good price points, but outsourcing production is always gonna take its toll.
I spoke with Paul from XSPC and told him I would post here...
He is well aware of the QC problems that mcoffey and jetroho have had to deal with on their radiators. They are still trying to track down exactly what went wrong with the batch that came to the US, the batch that went to Europe has been inspected for similar problems and does not have any, especially those mentioned here. He understands this setback on launch does not sit well with those of you who have purchased one out of the first batch, he does send his apologies and wants to be sure you get the product you purchased and not one that does not meet your satisfaction.
Keep in mind I am only conveying a message, I do not represent XSPC.
lol. i doubt that there are QC problems at TC or TFC.
Thats why these rads are cheap. QC bad. That makes the price difference.
Endcustomer sometimes dont care about the QC, but every Dealer has to consider this. The Returning Goods can break the dealer's neck and reliability.
Good to hear skinnee, it was disheartening to hear that such a promising looking competitor was looking like a pos.
OK, i just got my RX120.
Cant say anything different than the other 1st hand experiences... Tissue paper messed up the STINKY, STICKY paint.
Ok... Im fine with that, as long as the thing performs.... NO! The screw holes are inconsistant sizes! The screws I am trying to use are working with 3/4 holes on 1 side and 1/2 holes on the other. Looks like im going to have to retap+get new screws or get a new unit. Great
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...1191447ra4.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9...1191448kq5.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Hold up there bud, lets not forget some of the common problems with EK blocks and other vendors. Just cause the first units had some duds doesn't mean the company is bad. I had 2 gigabyte x58 extreme mobos die on me, and a single evga one doa. Doesn't mean they are bad companies, just new product with new things to sort out. XSPC tops are very common in a lot of builds and and XSPC res tops too. Their new VGA blocks are amazing. As for the RX rad series, they had some problems the first few sets.
Look at their other rads, the chrome ones perform very nicely, the RS series is better then the swiftech qp series rads.
As for EK their mounting on 280gtx caused some cards to get damaged, but they fixed that. I am sure XSPC will pull it together and fix their rads too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Having owned multiple XSPC blocks, rads, reservoirs and pump tops I can speak from experience and say XSPC make some damn fine products.
As Pika said, it's far from uncommon for the first batch of a new product to have problems. Remember the fan spacing issues on TFC's first batch of X-Changers?
On what basis? Fit, finish, performance? My recent experience with RS360 and MCR320QP - the Swiftech beats the XSPC on all 3 counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika198
And is there anybody who has tested the Triple RX already against TFC or TC??? Although there are big issues regarding painting and fan´s fixing??? Skinnee?
Lol, one bad batch with a new product and you prefer them out of business? That's a bit harsh isn't it mcoffey? :wasntme:
The RS360 is theoretically better, but in practice the swifty beats it. Probably 1c difference :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JackOfAll
http://www.xspc.biz/reviews.php martin had a review about it, but his site isn't up anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackOfAll
15/03/08 martinsliquidlab RS120 Black Radiator English
Also, I am not making excuses for XSPC, just saying that the first batch of a lot of things turns out bad. Xbox 360 RoD, EK mounting issues, PS2 Slim heat problems, Seagate 1tb drives, etc. I have used their tops, blocks, and res with no problem. As for paint, a new rad should come painted no problem, but it happens. I am sure they will help replace the rad with a new one. Not to mention the paint just chips off and for saving 40-80 bucks, I can get it painted with multiple colors. As for screw threads, that is not acceptable, but again first batch has problems like the TFC rads did.
Looks like I will just stick with my trusty BIX's until some innovation comes out. Not going to pay for a rad that does not do better and has lousy QC on top of that!
The triples are making there way to the bench, I had some items in line before the triple tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by scamps
All things being equal, (same ambient), I was 2-3C better with the MCR320 over the RS360. But the paint finish on the XSPC was not very good. Chipped off in two places and scraped, straight from the box. The construction was poor, (tank end - where the sides wrap over), causing one of the fan mount holes to be 2mm away from where it should be. As they use 4mm bolts, not enough wiggle to get a fit, so I had to start filing the fan mounting holes to get a fan on there. So, in my experience, (and even factoring in the fact that the XSPC is cheaper), I have to say that I've not been impressed with XSPC rads. Very similar experience with the RS240. I won't be purchasing any more XSPC rads.Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
mine arrives tomorrow or next - I hope to find that somehow mine won't suffer the same problems as you guys have :down:
Will be interesting to see if the batches sold in UK have same issues....Quote:
Originally Posted by Exavier
Then I must have been lucky with the quality of my RS360.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackOfAll
You are really funny TFC fanboy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTyper
Then Swiftech, Thermochills and Feser rads were also cheap and bad. They all did have own problems at start.
Swiftech did have bad paint quality and so did every others. Some Thermochills got leakage problems.. Fesers bent more easy than others. So are they cheap and bad? Are they so much better than XSPC wich have bad early batch? If you ask me they arent. Every company got more problems at early batches than later ones and all "first one byers" should know that.
If this is only early batch problem then it's just normal. Its stupid to say company is bad for that. Why the XSPC products are bad? XSPC Delta v3 chipset(universal wich includes GPUs) and cpu block are awesome for the price, XSPC RS rads are pretty good for the price (not everyone lives on USA), DDC tops are top performers and cheap. Their water blocks got acrylic problems and it got solved with acetal.
Every products need time to evolve. It will evolve when it released and get feedback for it(yeah same can do with more testing, but usually it need too much time). Like Swiftech Apogee CPU block did evolve many times.
I thought that XSPC was good and new company wich do price/performance products and not premium :banana::banana::banana::banana: like TFC(They are pricey and some products are 10 times pricier than should be..It still didn't won performance crown from PAs)
Just look Koolance company they did listen feedbacks and improved.
And mcoffey I know it sucks :down::down: and I´m sorry for you. I still hope you dont judge company too much and I really hope it was first batch problem..
I´m new one in watercooling but still this was too odd to me.. This reminds me of the "Have aesthetics overridden performance?" thread cos PA got own problems, but it was the best. Still its much more reasonable to send it back and replace or change to other product.
And sorry my bad english.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Migi06
well said :up:
well mine arrived and none of the problems above are evident BUT I have paint chipping and dents all over the rad...so I'm gonna email XSPC for a hopeful RMA, not that they'll even respond to me..
waterlogged raises a subtle hint which I'm interested to see the outcome of.. :p:
Just like the RS360 I purchased recently!Quote:
Originally Posted by Exavier
Anyway, that's a shame. QC is lacking, regardless of "teething" problems, first production run, etc. etc.
Looking at the pricing of the RX360 today (£71.99 @ watercoolinguk), which I'm sure is 10-15 pounds more than was originally suggested in another thread, and comparing that to the Xchanger 360 (£76.99 @ watercoolinguk). Hmmm. The TFC is overpriced - sure. Less money wasted on packaging and fancy inserts and a lower price would be appreciated. But the package does include 3 silcone fan gaskets. I'm assuming that the XSPC uses their usual "quality" packaging and provides no extras. The RX360 needs to blow the XChanger 360 away on performance being priced that close to it!
<tongue_in_cheek>Are XSPC offering a good value product or jumping on the Feser price gouging bandwagon?</tongue_in_cheek>
if you are in UK, why do you bother with TFC and XSPC? Get TC PA120.3 and call it a day, it's cheaper than the other two :)
Wrong and Did I offend you? Sorry if I didQuote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTyper
I´m getting water cooling stuff for performance and silence, because TRUE with two yateloons at 600rpm wasnt good enaugh on my Q6600Quote:
i think you have enough ice to cool your pc. so please dont use water.
Nothing wrong to be fanboy but watching your earlier comments stated that you like very much TFC products. Its good to have premium and price/performance companies cos this will reduce the prices. For me performance and price comes first, but some people like premiun because they usually got better quality.Quote:
and yes i am still a TC fanboy, because their rads were the pioneers.
I cleaned up some posts on this page.
Let's stick to the facts and leave the fanboyism for what it is.
Skinnee did a great test on this rad and I'm sure other members (including me) would like to see results from guys who recently bought (or are planning to buy) one of the RX series rads.
It would be a shame if a good thread like this goes to hell, like so many good threads have in the past.
So, stay on topic, play it nice and keep it civilized.
Thanks.
You'd think that being made in the UK, you'd be able to buy them in the UK? If only it was that easy. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by anzial
I would've bought one a couple of weeks ago instead of another TFC, but for the fact it's never in stock. (Either that, or I'm looking in the wrong places.)
Current (as of 5 mins ago) UK retailer stock levels of PA120.3 ....
Chilled PC - Out of stock
WatercoolingUK - Out of stock
The Cooling Shop - Out of stock
C and C Central - Out of stock
Aqua PC's - Out of stock
Well, at least you can enjoy lower prices on TC PAs compared to the rest of the world :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JackOfAll
That said, I was interested in getting XSPC RX360 but came accross an $80 PA120.3 compared to $99 for RX360... well, I chose PA. I hope won't regret it once performance numbers for RX360 become known :D
You could always try direct or semi-direct :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by JackOfAll
Sigh. Wasn't going to be using my RX360 for a little, but seeing this thread I re-opened the box and put my mic up to the fan holes. 105mm down the length of the rad, no problems. But just over 106mm across... problem. Testing it out on a fan, I can mount a fan on one side of the rad, but not the other without bending the rad or slotting the fan holes. Or I can partially tighten down all four corners, but not so much that there isn't an air gap all around the base of the fan. Definitely something wrong with the first batch. And worst of all, any RMA-ing for me will involve cross-border shipping.
I talked to XSPC about the holes and they said its due to the painting/Baking process, apparently the side plate got warped while baking.. The problem is made worse due to using M4 screws which left no margin for error or warping.
Not all the rads were affected, the 240 and 120 shouldn't be affected by this at all as they are much harder to warp.. Second batch is inbound, guess we'll see what happens, I've been told that all problems have been fixed but I won't be shipping any until I mount fans to one and inspect paint.
Good man. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by jab-tech
Yep - Again - Thanks John to your commitment to the scene!
90% of my purchases are from Jab-Tech = This is why!
Ta. I didn't know TC sold direct!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
To get the thread back to the testing that Skinnee has carried out :) Rather than the woes of XSPC's QC and where to buy a TC rad from :D
Skinnee, first great test much appreciated (I can't remember if I posted a thanks before or not so here it is possibly again :)) a couple of questions and potential observations.
1. The Percentage air used calculation how was this value calculated? From the numbers you present I cant work it out to get the same as you, I was taking the difference in air in to water out to be maximum capacity and air out - air in to be the fraction of the air capacity used so for the first set of data 1008rpm,
Air In = 24.01°C, Air Out = 36.10°C and Water Out = 43.37°C
Water Out - Air In = 19.36°C
Air Out - Air In = 12.09°C
So (12.09 / 19.36) x 100 = 62.45%
You report 63.64% so since I guess your table is generated by a spreadsheet you must be doing a different sum care to share? :) My only guess is you use Water In temp for the max instead of Water Out (which incidentally would be what I would do if it was me and I had the data) but that should lower the percentage not increase it...
2. On the subject of Water In temps it would be useful to know what this value was as a check against energy dissipated by the radiator, for example in Martin's test of the MCR220 (http://martin.skinneelabs.com/Swifte...20-Review.html) when using 1000rpm fans the drop in water temperature over the rad is 0.43°C, flowrate was 1.5gpm, and the water temperature was ~40°C (need this for a density calculation).
To calculate the watts dissipated the following equation must be solved,
KiloWatts Dissipated (kJ/s) = Mass Flowrate (kg/s) * Specific Heat (kJ/kg.K) * Temp. Change (K)
So for Martin's scenario,
Mass Flowrate = 1.5 gpm = 5.68 L/m = 0.095 L/s = 0.094 kg/s (Density @ 40°C = 992 kg/m³)
Specific Heat = 4.1813 kJ/kg.K
Temp. Change = 0.43 K
Kilowatts = 0.094*4.1813*0.43 = 0.169 kW = 169W
Martin states that the applied heat load is 302W for that much energy to have been dissipated a temp difference of 0.77 K would be required.
When the fan speed is increased to 3000rpm the temp difference rises to 0.61°C this equates to a heat dissipated of 240W much closer to the applied value of 300W.
I assume that this is an artefact of heat loss from the reservoir, tubing and other equipment in the loop which is amplified as the water temperature in the loop increases, of course what it does mean is that the C/W values are off as the rad is actually not dissipating as much energy as was assumed.
Without Water In temps for your tests I can not compare the different fan speeds to see if your testing follows the same trend, I also have not yet completed my thinking on the ramifications for what it means in terms of calculating C/W we will know how much heat was actually dissipated by the radiator but this is effected by the heat loss in the rest of the loop.
Perhaps insulating all tubing, reservoirs etc would make for a more controlled system in terms of radiator performance.
Anyway good testing hope to see some Water Temp In data so that we can see if the radiator was really dissipating 300W at each fan speed. Or of course a reason why my thinking is flawed.
You have the calculation right, and when I go into Excel and work the numbers, you're right. I completely goofed on the calculation, I chose the the cell for Air Out Sensor 1 rather than the average for both Air Out Sensors. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Webby
Thank you for pointing this out, I will update the calc's and charts as well as my radiator template so I don't make this mistake again.
On this, Excel's rounding makes me :mad:, 62.449 is the raw number calc to three decimals, but since Excel uses the raw numbers from the cells I point it at in the forumla, the result is 62.4697%
I will add the Water In temps to the standard chart I use when posting the test results. I do want to point out that I only use one sensor for Water In, so we do not get the luxury of sensor averaging for water in, which I feel is needed when using the digital sensors just due to their accuracy. Basically, I need to order more sensors to accurately report Water In.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webby
With that said, here are the Water In temps I captured on Water In Sensor 1and averaged acrossed the entire test period (the same as all other sensors)
1000RPM - 43.99
1400RPM - 39.20
1800RPM - 38.10
2300RPM - 35.39
2800RPM - 33.86
Thanks...even though I made some mistakes in my calc's and data presentation. But thank you for doing the work to point them out, but I am a bit embarassed that I made that mistake. However, I appreciate you pointing it out so I can fix it and make sure it does not happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webby
I will be updating the charts tonight/tomorrow, the charts will automatically update on the first page since the images are hosted by me and not attachments. I will add a post when I have the charts updated though.
Again, thanks Webby! I appreciate the additional work you did to check over the data. You're helping me immensly to better the presentation and accuracy of information! :up:
Skinnee,
Only to happy to help I can't do testing of my own, no space or money for it at the moment but I can happily spend time looking through things and trying to make sense of them if I find something which doesn't make sense to me or I cant work something out then I will ask questions that is just the way I am :)
Just pushed the numbers through my spreadsheet for calculating watts dissipated,
Fanspeed - Water Temp Difference - Watts Dissipated
1000rpm - 0.62°C - 243W
1400rpm - 0.76°C - 298W
1800rpm - 0.81°C - 318W
2300rpm - 0.80°C - 315W
2800rpm - 0.81°C - 319W
Watts dissipated alters slightly with the same temperature difference due to the slight change in density.
Anyway we can see that as you expected a single temperature sensor reading is not enough to achieve the accuracy we need for this calculation, with the error for the sensors that you are using +- 0.2°C measuring the differences we are looking at here in water temps is quite difficult obviously having more sensors will improve the confidence in the readings.
With the actual numbers aside what I can take away from the test is that at low fan speeds <1400rpm the system could probably do with being insulated although your not loosing nearly as much as Martin did through your res and tubing, perhaps with a lower power source 150W for a single rad this would not be an issue as much guess we will have to wait and see what your 360mm rad tests show ;) at the higher speeds it would be fairly safe to assume that the majority of the heat is removed via the radiator.
Oh final point you are using straight distilled water for these tests, yes? This will obviously effect specific heat but guessing you would have mentioned if you were using something else.
Original post updated with proper Air Capacity Used calculations (thanks Webby!) and Pressure Drop info and charts.
So would it be a bad idea for me to try and purchase and use a XSPC RX360 RAD. or is the paint problem just making it look not pretty, but they still perform well? is there any QC problems with them other than the paint thing. I'm trying to hurry and upgrade from my PA120.2 to either a RX360, or a TFC 360. as the PA's don't line up with my soon to be delivered HAF case, it has pre-drilled RAD holes up top for a triple rad, but the PA wont fit them. and the others will. So I either can use what I have now, and drill the case. or I can upgrade to a TFC 360.
So are these RX360's a no go for now?
personally i like the xspc rx360 better then the thermochill pa 120.3
even though i am new hear the xspc rx360 is easier to mount
Sorry for the late update .Quote:
Originally Posted by jetroho
Jab-Tech has without a doubt the best customer support I've ever encountered :up: John is just super to work with :up::up:
The RX 120 and 240 I got back from RMA are assymbled properly , the fans fit perfectly . At the same time as I RMA'd the 120 and 240 I bought a RX360 .The fans fit properly as well and it is also nicely put together . All three of the rad's have very , very minor paint scuffs . Not any big deal .
John had advised me that the batch of replacement rad's had paint problems . I actually from his description thought they would be fairly ugly . But the rad's I got are not bad . He also personally checked each rad for proper fan fit before sending them out and putting the rest up for sale . If you are looking for a 120 , 240 or 360 high perf rad and do not mind having to possibly paint them . I would head over to Jab-Tech and check out these rad's . They are on sale super cheap :clap::shocked:
I wish I could post some results from these rad's , but it's going be a while before I can get back to my build . A family medical problem is taking all the time I can spare.............
J
I have the numbers for the RX360...the PA is 90% with the MCR320 starting late next week. My sample of the RX360 has minor paint issues, but rubbed right out. Fans aligned and mounted without a problem. When setting up the PA for testing...that damn neoprene gasket, curse those blasted things!
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Pain-in-the-arse right there!
They're a right biatch to get on properly.
This is the 4th PA I've put that gasket on...never gets easier. I didn't peel off the backing this time, used some double-sided tape instead. I'm noodling on making a proper gasket for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by twwen2
twwen2, skinnee, are you guys are using Marci's recommended method?
Yup...blasted thing still just isn't right. I think there is something weird that happens to them on the trip across the Atlantic, such as taking the long way and venture through the Bermuda triangle.
And what is that, my good WL? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Just thought I would add my 2 cents. Alex over at Petra's Tech Shop provided a free RX360 rad for my new project: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=163649 I also purchased a 2nd one with my own funds. Both of them have none of the problems listed in this thread. Hole spacing is fine, paint job is excellent.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...radiators1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2..._progress8.jpg
No complaints so far, however I have not leak tested them yet.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by twwen2
Oh yeah, got it. Think i tried that last time anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
i actually found guy moutning one of those in push pull in comsos s here is his build log
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17969354
My RX120 is perfect! Hole spacing is fine, paint job is good.
http://g.imagehost.org/0850/DSC_0597piccola.jpg
how does this rad (XSPC RX120) compare to a Swiftech MCR220? temps-wise..
What size tubing is that colex....and what fittings please ?
Looks VERY neat.
Thanks Skinnee. I'm going to buy this rad.
and remind me again, why am i supposed to pay $30 + for thermochills?
i love my PA120.3... but back then... it's either the PA or MCR320 that really made sense... now the RX series makes more sense than the TC's...
maybe i should stop listening to the depressing news all day...
the economy WILL get better... it will... it just have to...
So....RX > RS = Thermochill (just performance, excluding price) WHere does Feser go into the mix?
I'm excluding HW Labs Black Ice cause the radiators are more densely-finned for higher CFM/pressure fans.
Think you're cpu block is out 90 degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by colex
I know this is an old post but I noticed this and can relate my experiences with the 360RX in that the fan holes never lined up right and it was a pain to fasten fans onto it. I always thought it was becuase I had my rad serviced to close a perforated leak. So this is a common problem fan holes not lining up right?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
I've had problems gettings fans lined up on a large number of radiators from many different manufacturers. Fan mounting should be easy, but sometimes even 2mm's off can turn the process into a nightmare.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidm71
Take it nice and slow. If on a triple, try getting the two outside fans loose mounted and slide the center fan in place. Secure the center fan first, then proceed with securing the outside fans. This is the method I use when having trouble getting fans mounted and works well.
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Yeah, we changed the site over to a CMS back end and that screwed up all the pics. I'll be going through all of the review threads and updating them once my body figures out what time zone its in.