Anyone have any updates??????????????
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Anyone have any updates??????????????
I went back and forth with Foxconn's online support and this is the last message from them and the last message I sent to them...
"Dear ****,
We guess there is a little misunderstanding about the option "CPU And NB HT Speed", the item should be "CPU-NB HT Link speed" that refers to the HT link speed from CPU to NB.
It will not change CPU clock but the HT link.
Best regards,
Foxconn Technical Support"
"so what your telling me is, there is currently no way to change the north bridge multiplier? if so, could you possibly ask you're BIOS engineers to some how add that function to the next BIOS? There are quite a few of us Destroyer owners who would like to be able to change the North bridge multiplier. 2009/04/25"
I have yet to get a response from that last message....how ever the original message was responded to with in 24 hours. I guess when you ask them to change something, there not too interested with you anymore. :rolleyes:
I might go to the Asus Crosshair II but I have customers I sold a few destroyers to. I am really going to get screwed but I might rma them all to the lol. Bios says AM3 cpu support and the 955BE is an AM3.
Beside the NB-multiplierproblem there are still other issues to resolve by Foxconn which have already been described in this thread. A new bios ist definitely necessary and after almost three months of waiting very late. It confuses me a little bit of reading of new beta-Bioses for some X58-boards every second week and on the other side nothing for all the AMD-boards. In february I prefered the Destroyer instead of the Crosshair II and the M4A79 and I am very close to regret this choice. Sure, Asus is also not the king of customersupport, but you can count on bios-updates and relatively fast fixes for certain major issues. At least for the Enthusiast-Series of boards Foxconn should definitely think about the current state of support.
i wouldnt buy this motherboard theres no support for it ,no matter how nice it is the bios is still stuck in the past. worst case scenario get the asus m3n deluxe not the crosshair board, bios's are stil popping out for board or get the rebranded 980a:ROTF: still i would get this board. when you have a support thread and ppl have been crying out for this 1 feature and they get ignored its not good
they should just come out and say are board cant do it or our bios engineer's dont know how to emplement it saves a lot of thread posts
I am looking to pick up 5 980a's. 4 for my customers and 1 for my personal. We are removing all Foxconn products from out retail site. We were pushing there products but the economy is too bad for things not to work the way they are supposed to. They described to support AM3 on the last bios update. We had a thread going on there support site were ppl were going off. I will not deal with them again.
ya this is defiantly leaving a bad taste in my mouth. (so to speak)I have never spent so much money on a mother board before this one. all my others have been cheap $50 boards...I figured Foxconn was looking good and my cousin just bought a cheap $60 mobo from them and it looked good construction wise and performance wise, so I said F-it I want this setup to last at least 2 years spend the extra money and get a good board. Soon after I got up and running I got into OC'ing. had I not I wouldn't have noticed these issues that have been posted here in this thread. Needless to say I am starting to regret buying this board.
also, I did link the text support to this thread, so they know about it.
Yeah I posted countless times with no reply. Other started to post too with no reply. Its all good. Better to learn now cause I am in the retail business. We did sell a setup with the destroyer but its going to be replaced with the Asus version of the 980a. Like I said... its all good.
At last, today the new P15-Bios has been released. You can find it on http://www.foxconnsupport.com/download.aspx.
Changelog:
Therefore, the CPU-multiplier problem with the new AM3-CPUs (e.g. Phenom II 955) should be fixed. The CPU->NB multi still cannot be adjusted in the bios. The option just doesn't work.Quote:
Update AGESA Code
I received the update May 11th. The first thing I noticed was my cpu voltage was 0.974 before booting. I manually changed it to 1.35. When I got into windows I started cpuz and saw "1.70". The screen flickered and I powered it down. The voltage is big time off. Good luck to anyone using this board. I installed my Asus 980a mobo and I am just darn lucky I didn't burn my cpu.
Hi, I have some questions about some of the BIOS settings on this board and the manual did not answer my questions. Online information sort of gave me conflicting information as well. I am kind of a noob about these types of issues in the bios and foxconn really did not provide a very good explanation in their reply to my questions. Can anyone answer these questions for me at a basic level?
I have 8GB of crucial ballistix ram installed. The specs of the ram are: Timings - 4,4,4,12; Voltage 2.0; DDR2 800 mhz.
In the BIOS the system memory speed value shows 400mhz even if I set the memory to DDR2 800mhz in the bios. Shouldn't this read 800mhz?
Should I manually set the memory speed to DDR2 800 mhz or leave it at AUTO? Is the BIOS correctly identifying my ram type and speed?
The DRAM voltage settings defaulted to 1.8267V the target voltage was also 1.8267V and the current voltage was 1.8080V. Why is the motherboard not auto detecting the voltage at 2.0V?
If I manually increased the voltage to 2.0093V and it put the current voltage at 1.9840V. If I go up to the next voltage setting of 2.0550V then the current voltage goes over to 2.0320V. I cannot get to 2.0000V exactly. Is it best to use the 2.0093V so that the current voltage reads 1.9840V or can I safely use the 2.0550V and have the ram over by .032V?
If I leave the ram timings to AUTO setting, will it autodetect the correct timings (4-4-4-12) or should I set the ram timings to 4-4-4-12 manually?
The Crucial Ballistix are supposed to have the EEP SLI stuff and when I POST the BIOS reports that SLI memory is detected. When I change the SLI ready memory setting in the bios from disabled the only option I have is CPU 0%, there is no CPU Max setting. Should I leave this at disabled? Why is there no CPU max and all I have is CPU 0%?
If I set the AMD K8 Cool & Quiet Control to enabled (or auto cannot remember the setting exactly) it always goes back to disabled. DOes this motherboard with the Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition not support cool & quiet?
Thanks for your time.
Rick
I am sure alot of guys would agree with this that it is better to manually set the ram in the bios for the most part. I would manually set it at 4-4-4-12 even though it detects it at that. Get the ram as close as possible to the right voltage. It's not going to hurt it to run it at 2.0320V.
Ok, thanks for the help.
How come the system is showing 400mhz instead of the 800mhz it should be at?
its prob just the div. 400
works out to 800mhz wth ddr2 ok
just like 233 or 333
Has anyone else tried the new P15 BIOS? Is there a voltage problem with it?
Not at least with my Phenom II 940, but in fact the P15 does not change anything that matters, very dissappointing.
Not being able to adjust the NB multi is a huge problem (for non-black edition processors), but it's not the only one.
I've recently discovered that the FSB defaults back to 200MHz if you allow the system to drop into S3 sleep mode (S1 sleep works fine).
Is there a better way to get in touch with Foxconn than these forums? They've made a highend board that we've all payed a premium for, they're sort of obligated to make it work right!
*bump*
Still waiting for a response from Foxconn.
i can not say much about the destroyer
but am building up a list for the bios people to work on
but i will say the destroyer was not made for phenom II they came out over 6mouths after the board was release
so i think it doing very very well to support them cpu
i would say the board was a good gamer board but never a good overclocking board
and you dont want to know what i think of nvidia lol
but please be nice and give me the list of bug or problem you have and i will try to get them fixed
but like i said for blackops am working on 1 board at a time so we get each board bios to a good standed if i try to get all board fixed none will get fixed
thanks
something simple as cpu nb controls multi and volts
i like how you think its simple lol
as long as the support in the board is there then yes ok i will request it.
but if the board does not have the support i will say
thanks
be nice as say stuff like that will get you nothing from me.Quote:
i never said it was simple but if they cant do it just say so and dont beat around da bush
i said i will find out.
but you did say as "simple as " :rofl:
thanks
Lord Trident, Could we pretty please with sugar on top get NB multi and NB Voltage controls?
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/512373.png @air...not good?!:rofl:
the board is awesome for OC , but the "NB" problem is a real shame :down::mad: and so this was my last foxconn mobo....(i already sold my bloodrage)
That is fantastic news! Nice to see Foxconn still accepting community input on the Destroyer.
The Destroyer was designed to meet AMD AM2+ specifications, and marketed as such (it says "AM2+ Support" right on the box). It should be able to support all AM2+ CPUs regardless of when they were released; Phenom II compatibility isn't a surprise at all, it's working exactly how it's supposed to work.
All of this is beside the point, because really, the biggest issue we're all dealing with has next to nothing to do with CPU compatibility. I'm speaking, of course, about the Northbridge Multiplier being broken/stuck...
Destroyer seems to overclock just fine with CPUs that have unlocked core multipliers (negating the lack of a Northbridge Multiplier adjustment). It has serious potential, but that one problem is seriously nerfing it.
Well, I think you know my number one issue for your list. I want a working Northbridge Multiplier adjustment! :)
When I purchased mine I did some research on it. One of my reasons for buying it was the release of the P14 bios which was described as Added AM3 CPU compatibility.
I never thought it would have issues with something as simple as a NB Multi. It is supposed to be an enthusiast board.... i think that would be common sense on there part.
The guy from Foxconn that quit was the only one that ever answered. Why does Foxconn still have a support section on these fourms if they never reply? Hell why do they have one on there website if they don't even look at it?
I would not recommend a Foxconn anything to anyone after spending $230 on something I had to sell off due to horrible support.
CobraXp this is still been supported as am trying to answer the question,Quote:
The guy from Foxconn that quit was the only one that ever answered. Why does Foxconn still have a support section on these fourms if they never reply? Hell why do they have one on there website if they don't even look at it?
but if i look around a lot of your are doing a good job helping each other, which is what this forum is about, helping each other.
just to make you guys happy i've put in the request in for a new bios, so keep watching, it will come (i hope :D)
Please report your problems here
What does have the Phenom II to do with some board- or rather bios-related issues? The CPU->NB multi was even more important for overclocking the Phenom I (Agena), since the NB Frequency limited OC-successes with these CPUs much sooner.
Are you kidding me? The Destroyer is by hardware in fact one of the most capable OC-boards for AM2+. I guess you may be interested in these results: http://www.benchbrothers.de/forum/thread.php?postid=913Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Trident
What is your definition of a "gamer board"? For "gaming" I need a stable mainboard, a target I can reach easily with a 60$-budgetboard.
Topic? In fact the AMD-based Boards are definitily not better than the nforce-based boards. In contrast for example USB-performance is better than most of the SB700/750-boards. And even though AMD has ACC they definitely do not overclock better than the nforce780a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Trident
Thank You. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Trident
Phenom II X550 @ Foxconn Destroyer 1st results :D Bios is P15, but P14 also works...
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/583765.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4262/loiio.th.jpg
Quick question. so i have my bus speed to 208, Volts 1.325, multiplier at 14.5. its stable but the bus speed only registers at 206.7 when im looking in OCCT and in CPUz. any idea as to why? i have the latest bios
That's an issue that has already been described. I'm getting also weird and unprecise clocks above 250Mhz Referenceclock.
Beside of that, Foxconn provides us a new bios, P16: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000400
I couldn't test it until now because the download of the file leads me to a "download.adx"-File, which cannot be unzipped ... :confused:Quote:
Fix ADX245 Processor S3 resume fail.
EDIT: The download ist working right now.
only problem i read was with am3 cpu's im still using a am2 9850
Have a look an page 4 of this thread. ;)
@P16 bios: no significant changes at all ... :down:
any updates
any update on a fix for the nb multi?
Well then, bump for S3 mode fix and NB multi fix.
Please fix nb multi! :bsod:
Foxconn still hasn't fixed it? It is a nice board but ..... I will stick with my Asus M4N82.
hey guys...some food for thought here. have you ever considered adjusting the NB speed using NVIDIA's ESA and System tools? While I realize it isnt as safe as adjusting via the BIOS, it may be your only option for now. Besides, it seems to be pretty comparable to AMD Overdrive, which seems to be a pretty decent OS-based tweaking program.
:rolleyes:
This doesn't work with me. I can only adjust the HT-Link with ESA ...
I had this idea already some time ago. Nevertheless, this option should definitely be available in the bios.
Price is right on this board. I still like it and as Lord Trident said it is still supported. Hope they fix the NB issue. It would make it the top AMD/Nvidia mobo out.
If all else fails, we can always drop in a Phenom II 955, the unlocked multi should negate the lack of NB multi control for the most part.
Wait...was there ever a BIOS update released to support the 955? :confused:
if new bios will out I'll back to this mobo.
Bump...
Any update on allowing HT Multi adjustment? How about fixing the FSB revering to 200MHz when in S3 sleep mode?
What about the Phenom II X4 965 and newer Athlon II X4's, when will those get a BIOS revision to support them?
Edit: Just found out Smart Fan doesn't appear to be functional on the Destroyer either. No matter what the values are set to, the CPU fan speed never changes.
Seriously? No new CPU support for the destroyer ever? That seems odd for a still "supported" motherboard consisting of "the latest AMD technologies", as stated on the Quantum Force products page.
False advertising if it doesn't support the latest AMD processors, no? Is it really that hard to get an updated CPU table so the motherboard will recognize these newer CPU's properly?
That's from the product page. It states 16GB of RAM is supported...however my motherboard manual says 8GB. Who's correct here? Will 4x 4GB sticks work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxconn
That worked, thanks.
imo.
foxconn should give us bios which will have support for new cpus. It don't have to have good oc, just support for new technologies.
I agree. If they're going to refuse to let us adjust the Northbridge Multi, at least give us the ability to use newer CPUs with unlocked core multipliers so we can get around the issue.
For myself I lost my patience, Foxconn has lost a costumer ... I go back to Asus ...
The new MSI 980a board looks good. I might have one for a build soon. I had the Asus 980a. Was a nice stable board.
guys could tell me is there any place where I can send email with request for last bios ?
This is actually the second time in a row Foxconn has screwed me.
The first time was with the C51XEM2AA motherboard, they never updated the BIOS to handle Phenom's (but at least every function of the motherboard worked how it was supposed to!). They claimed the chipset couldn't support it, while other motherboards with the same chipset eventually ended up with BIOS updates to allow newer quad core CPUs.
Now this with the Destroyer...
Come on Foxconn. Update the CPU table and fix the FSB resetting in S3 mode at the very least. A fixed northbridge multiplier adjustment would be icing on the cake.
As it is, Foxconn has destroyed my upgrade path. I was planning to get an AM3 chip now and upgrade out of the Destroyer to an AM3 motherboard later, but Foxconn hasn't added support for the AM3 CPU I want to use!
where is Lord Trident now ?
as far I remember he said there will be one last bios.
wish list:
-support new cpus (965 c3, athlons x2/x3/x4)
-adjustment of multiplier
-resetting HTT in S3 mode
three things, last three. Foxconn give this motherboard last breath.
I've just discovered a massive problem. There appears to be no way to enable AMD-V on the Destroyer!
Am I missing the option in the BIOS or what? I don't see it anywhere :confused:
Edit: Yup, looks like there's no way to enable a standard AMD processor feature, AMD-V, on the Destroyer. Foxconn is headed for a class action lawsuit if they don't correct this issue.
There's a simple explanation for this: the capacity of the bioschip was insufficient.Quote:
The first time was with the C51XEM2AA motherboard, they never updated the BIOS to handle Phenom's (but at least every function of the motherboard worked how it was supposed to!)
I've heard that excuse before. Some other motherboards with the Nforce 590 SLI chipset and the same size BIOS chip managed to get Phenom support. I believe they removed backwards compatibility with older CPUs to make room (making it difficult to go back to an Athlon X2), but they managed to do it.
My current concerns, however, rest with the Destroyer. The recent discovery that Destroyer lacks the ability to turn on AMD-V (hardware virtualization) is a huge problem. You can't even use Windows XP Mode on Windows 7 without it.
Even my old C51XEM2AA had the option to turn AMD-V on. Why is it missing on the Destroyer?
I would like to point out, yet again, that Foxconn's claim of this motherboard supporting "the latest AMD technologies" on the product page is a blatant lie. We're missing AMD-V, we're missing proper S3 sleep, we're missing support for the latest AMD CPUs.
I'm tired of being left to sit and wait; I'll be contacting the Better Business Beuro if there isn't a response directly from Foxconn on the status of the Destroyer within the next business day.
Better Business Beuro has been contacted. Foxconn should expect to hear from them within the next three business days.
gl! :toast:
Formal complaints have now been filed with the Better Business Bureau (for Foxconn's American branch), as well as econsumer.gov (for their headquarters in China). Physical letters (as well as the same text in email form) have been sent to AMD and Nvidia headquarters informing them of these issues with their partner.
Foxconn is in for some seriously bad PR if they ignore us after all this...
I hope this will have positive answer :(
Still no response from Foxconn...I'm beginning to get the impression that they're actively ignoring us at this point.
I've tried to get in contact with someone high-level over the phone, but I've had no success as of yet. :shakes:
i think two weeks is enough for waiting for response. So I am able to wait couple more days.
Still no response back. Class action here we come.
Two weeks later, still nothing. My support ticket with their online system remains unanswered, and the couple of attempts I've made to get phone support have failed.
So much for support. I'll never buy a foxconn motherboard again after this.
I suppose it's time to start looking for alternative motherboards that are equivalent, feature wise, to the Destroyer. Top contenders are the MSI NF980-G65 (for DDR3) and the ASUS M4N82 Deluxe (for DDR2).
I will sell my mb and buy something on 790GX, maybe biostar.
I love nforce but it's time for change.
did anyone try ctrl F1-f4 sometimes hidden options aren't shown? (asus,gigabyte trick)
i'll be putting my 940 in it anyways.
Hey kev you get around aye. ;)
I was hoping to find a new bios after P16 for this mobo. Can any one tell me the best BIOS for the X4 940 BE? I am not able to push my FSB beyond 260ish w/the P16 bios and would like to be able to at least get my FSB up to 300 or more to get my NB Frequencies up where they should be. I'm sad to say this but I think I should have put my money towards EVGA X58 SLI Classified Limited but then I would be broke and would prolly miss out on the the i7's for that mobo.
Has any one kept up w/the MSI/Lucent mobo launch date?
Since a few weeks I use the M4N82, it's a very nice, stable und OC-capable board, although the featureset of the Destroyer is unreachable (dual-GB-Lan, DVI+VGA for example), but: the M4N82 has got a real good bios. All the issues/bugs with the S3-state are gone, the missing NB-multi or NB voltage adjustmens are present.
It's a shame for foxconn. :mad:
Most of the nforce-Boards will reach a wall at about 260-270Mhz. Solution: get a board with adjustable NB multiplier. And if you still need high referenceclocks around 300Mhz go for AMD790GX/FX-Boards. For example the Crosshair III reaches easily 330Mhz ...
If I switch mobo's I'll prolly go w/intel this time around unless AMD/Nvidia based mobo's can get it right. I was told the Crosshair II is suppose to have adjustable NB multi's as well and it has the 780a chips set as well. sure wish Foxconn would take the thumb out of you know where and get us a good bios once and for all. It's a shame really because this mobo has so much potential...
If you're switching to intel, the MSI P55-GD65 is a good choice. Almost as many features as the Destroyer.
The only thing it lacks is tri-SLI support, though it can do normal SLI and Crossfire.
yesterday I had opportunity to try C3 on foxy, motherboard didin't post. Fans, leds, hdd etc work but on a monitor there is no signal.
Hi all
I'm running the newest Phenom II 965 BE C3 (125W) on a Destroyer. It's been running great. No problems at all. :)
Cheers:)
so, what bios you are using?
can you give it to public?
if not, send a pm, you help will be very important to me.
Hey Fatalbert, sorry, I guess I was a bit too unspecific.
I'm using the P16 BIOS right now, but I installed the CPU while running the P15! I thought it was up to date but I was wrong of course. I flashed from Win7 x64 with the FOX Update Utility to P16 a few hours ago. No problems at all. Just a few BIOS settings were resetted to their default values (or maybe all? I'm not sure). So make sure your IDE/AHCI/RAID settings are properly adjusted for example. Go for it guys :D No need to wait for another BIOS for non overclockers! :) I know it's not great knews but it's not too bad given the current Foxconn Support. -.-
hmm, now i should get P16, but from where :D mine problem is that C3 doesn't work with def settings :( i'm still using IDE hdd so this shouldn't be big problem. I borrow from my friend GB MA770-UD3 and the same C3 as in the past, so I try again with different bios run C3, you gave me lots of hope man :D big thanks goes to you for this information :D
No problem! :D
Here's some more:
The P16 BIOS:
You can flash directly from Windows with the "FOX LiveUpdate". I did it from Win7 x64. Just startup the utility and then select "Online Update".
Or you can download it from the Overclock.Net Foxconn Destroyer Club:
BIOS P16 Direct Download Link
If I'm not mistaken you can load the .BIN file in the FOX LiveUpdate utility or just use the files with a bootable floppy disk. But you probably know this already...
Actually I was in your situation a few weeks ago, now some more people with destroyer+965 C3 are starting to show up on forums :)
If you have more questions feel free to ask.
Good luck!
f*ck me, there destroyer club :eek: :D
I want be there :D damn, tomorrow I will fight with the cpu :D
bios already on hdd, some others things too :)
mine cpu did 3dm06 on 4000 on biostar 790GX A3+, I will made 4100 and I own the IGP8200 category :D
it's works :D
thanks ya man :D
today I am starting testing on air :D
now I have to download sound drivers because I haven't got them :D
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=909704 for start. just multi up ;)
I submitted a support ticket to Foxconn exactly one month ago, I still have yet to receive any response. This is entirely unacceptable.
What's going on at Foxconn? Are they preparing to close up shop or what? This complete lack of support is highly unsettling.
With the economy, I am sure they prob have one guy in the support department doing nothing but answering phones all day and waiting for that special day to get to those support tickets while wondering to himself "Why me?" or "I am quitting as soon as I find another job!".
Unless you know what you are doing, don't buy the latest stuff and have a lot of patience... stay away from this board.
Well, there is still more than 1 person support there to be honest. It's just hard to get things done from this side ;).
So for everyone in this thread that hadn't seen it yet, get your Destroyer G10 BIOS @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=242973
If you are having issues with the board, please try it. Also, you'll all be happy to hear that there is some more development coming for this board. It won't be massive, but just that little bit extra to play with. Check out G10 first.
great news :clap:
Yup you can Visit it here. I would not say the club is anything spectacular just yet but more or less a couple of proud Destroyer owners who share the same enthusiasm for the Destoryer and it's potential ;)
TY. :up: I'm eagerly awaiting the NB Multi'd BIOS file. :)
unlock the nb and this might be the best AMD/Nvidia mobo out.
it could be if this do high nb clock, let's just say 4.5 on ln2 and clock 6.3 for 3d mark03/05 and belive me I have cpu which can do this + eliminate htt hole
This HTT hole you speak of. I have not been able to POST w/any HTT settings over 260 through 300 HTT and have not tried anything beyond 300 as I thought it just would not work.
maybe it's because I have a sample ;)