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Well I'm pretty sure 0 means disabled, So it would do Software based Phsyics from what I can remember coding my custom cfg. So If you wanted Physic on the 4th core, you would have to use sys_physics_cpu 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro
Here is the video I remember seeing explaining the physics command.
Also, On my Q9450 with my Custom CFG, i see crysis using 50-70%(total) of my quad.
yeah, you are right 0 means disabled :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=299Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
have you read this post?
you still doenst have any proof crysis is fully multithreaded, it just offloads some functions of the engin to another core, but nor the functions nor the engine is multithreaded
sure, sig me :) make a fool of yourself :)
Also from the tests I was doing when I made my custom CFG. The Higher the Value of sys_phsyics_cpu The more CPU power it would use. But I can't backup this Theory.
Yep, I've read it. And it says nothing relevant here. Well the last phrase is something I've already said a few post above this one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I know now what's your problem: you don't know what multithreading is. Read this and then think a bit about your nonsense ;)
And no offense, but you're making a fool of you in every post you write.
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Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I HAVE A DUAL CORE and it is close to 90% (depending on scene) on each of my 2 cores,that screenshot wasn't mine,I found it on the net and attached it to show you that the game is multithreaded not singlethreaded.
IT will use other cores , so it is single threaded....
SSSSSHHHHH!Quote:
Originally Posted by SoulsCollective
What they can't remember is only better for us!!:yepp:
I'm serious, if they continue to make PC exclusives, imo, they could really help save pc gaming (I personally don't like consols as much, but what can you do:shrug:)
i know what multithreading isQuote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
but you cannot call crysis multithreaded when there is no benefit from dual to quadcore
guys, there is only good gain in performance going from single core to dual core, not from dual to quad. crysis is multithreaded, but executes only two threads simultaneously. hence dual cores are stressed for a good 90%, but on quads that same load is balanced over 4 cores, hence the individual cores only being loaded for 40-55% each.
To all the :banana::banana::banana:s that say Crysis is "badly coded" First of all :banana::banana::banana::banana: you! What do you know?
And secondly, stfu and watch this
Actions speak louder than words b1tches! :D
it is badly coded (not optimized), but that doesnt mean it's not a beautiful game
......... not optimized?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Ok look at any other game currently out, They do not even approach the visual quality and physics / interaction of Crysis... Moving Foliage and lots of it, Procedural Day / Night System, amazing textures and HDR, Motion Blur, massive draw distance and the HUGE size of the map all reduce the framerate...
I could run it on High 1440*900 acceptably (20-30 fps) on an E4300 and an 8800gts 640mb....
AND I could run it at 1024*768 on low at like 200fps.... So I don't see how its "not optimized" I could run it on high on a two year old High end GPU....
And even if you have a :banana::banana::banana::banana: system you can still play it....
But nice try on the Crysis bashing again...
crysis is awesome , its just way ahead of whats out atm , this always happens same happened with quake 4 and half life 2...
srsly you try adding that many objects into something like garysmod and the whole thing slows to a crawl and finally crashes....
Anyway,Multi means more than one. Stop arguing semantics people. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
What! My post is extremely lacking in bananas compared to a lot of posts I see by some of the more "senior" members around here...Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
And I have not trolled, The Crysis bashers seem to troll every thread that even mentions Crysis
Wrong. But keep thinking like that if you want, is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
And now you are lowering yourself to their level, congrats. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
Please...this is in general a good discussion. I personally want to keep it that way, so lets chill out a bit peeps! Why is it so hard to correct/disprove someone without taking it to a trolling/insult/personal level? :( :shakes: :shrug:
because it is summer and testosterones levels are...Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
VERY HIGH? :ROTF:
no, its not optimized, it lacks good support for multicore cpu's and multiple GPU's, it simply doesnt scale well, but some patches fixed some issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
but it is an awesome game :) i was able to play the multiplayer beta back in the days and i was very impressed :)
i am just pointing out crysis is not as multithreaded as some believe
multi doesnt equal 2, its >1, not >1 && < 3Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
taking this is context which engine IS fully optimized for multicore , also crysis is fully supported for multi gpu , or did you not see that slide boasting hundreds of man hours by nvidia spent on it?
Did I say it equals 2? No, I said MORE THAN ONE, PLEASE READ MY POST!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
And your thinking, again, seems to be off. How is it not multithreaded when it uses 2 cores VERY well but not 4? What you are smoking son, pass it on over here!!
Crysis IS multithreaded, but yeah, it doesn't put four cores to 100% each...To do so, you have to use 2d games like Prime 95 :rolleyes:
Crysis just uses what it needs and that is not bad coding, once the limitations present in the game come from current GPUs lack power, and not CPU power.
As for multi gpu scaling, we all know the current AFR techniques suck very hard, so you can't complain the engine on that...
wtf... :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
just becaus crysis scales worse after 2 threads it means its not multithreaded..? classic...
so if i apply you analogy to other apps and run them on a 8core harpertown rig, a app that only uses 4 threads is not multithreaded? :rofl:
according to what I understand from his point of view, you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
And he says he knows what multithreading is...
According to my logic elephants can fly too.
dont forget pigs. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
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Originally Posted by jas420221
Read the first quote and then the second. Did you practice what you preach.Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
I did not insult/troll the guy at all. I said his thinking was off...and whatever made it off, to share!:rolleyes:
Go away unless you have something on topic to discuss...like elephants and pigs flying... :lol: :yepp:
Ahhh I see, so IT IS multithreaded? Just not VERY multithreaded? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
It uses atleast 2 cores effectively and can use core 2 and 3 to a lesser degree...
And please, find me another game that can max out a Quad... Supreme Commander comes pretty close... but even the latest x264 encoder will not load EVERY core 100%
you are taking this way out of context, you say, because is scales WORSE, problem is, it doesnt scale after 2 threads...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
normally a multithreaded application keeps getting better after 2 or more threads, crysis suddenly stops after 2 threads
if it makes you happy to believe the cryengine is fully multithreaded, fine so be it, everyone has is own point of view, too bad some people cannot express theirselves in a mature way
a multithreaded app doesnt have to load each core to 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
well, if someone boots up crysis at 800*600 with low detail and can monitor it with rivatuner, i would be glad, and if i am wrong, so be it, people learn from their mistakes
its like not being very pregnant , just a little....
Now I have my new sig, thx :DQuote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
ROFLQuote:
Originally Posted by Papu
I'm famous \o/Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
looks like am in a kindergarten...
some people just lack the ability to communicate it seems, acting like moron must be in
no, just correcting people who obviously don't know what they're talking about is. and then reveling in it afterward. it's been in style for 6 to 11 thousand years.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I can agree with the sentiment, as I have stayed away from the threading argument and used the term "optimize" performance for mutli-core CPUs. However, not all games spread workloads across multiple cores in the same manner and in that sense, there are games that are better at multi-threading at others.Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
His point is one that is shared by many. You can do what Crysis has done without bringing a gpu like an 8800 Ultra to its knees.
Crysis fanboys like to idealize Crytek for not working with Nvidia and ATI to optimize performance over time, as has happened with practically every other hugely popular 3D engine, and this only reinforces Crytek to make the next engine update even more badly optimize so that it can be hailed as the premier PC benchmark even more.
Perkam
Oh so I'm a Crysis fanboy now? I have only played the demo btw ;)
I see you are a member of the ever so famous "Crysis is badly coded / not optimised" brigade... you guys are almost as cool as the "Old News!! lolol" brigade..
Have you ever seen Crysis in action? When you find a game that looks even remotely as good as it, that can look that amazing on almost 2 year old hardware (I had an E4300 + 8800gts 640) come back and tell me Crysis is "coded badly" and I might believe you then....
There is not one game that can touch Crysis with a 20yard stick for Visual Quality and General Awesomeness of the environment....
is there any post you dont talk nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
and yes i have played crysis (only second time i mention this) i able to play the beta, and yes it does look awesome, but thats not the point
Want to point out some of my "nonsense"? Everything I said is true...Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I believe you are the current master of nonsense Mr Its kinda multithreaded :D
dont feed the troll. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
just let it rest and keep your excitement for the upcoming crysis game. :up:
What if we stick to the facts?
Crysis in a dual CPU setup uses about 90% of cpu0 and about 80% of cpu1
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6...puusagevx0.jpg
Crysis in a quad CPU setup uses about 40% of each of 4 cpus
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1212787842
If that ain't multithreaded, I am well sure it is not singlethreaded.
Other fact, is that the scaling of the threads seems to be balanced, in a way that the quad cpu setup doesn't have the behavior of the dual cpu setup.
So, Crysis IS a balanced multithreaded app.
how come first pic shows 8800GT and the other shows 8800GTS, your own setup?
i know it is taxin on dualcores
First pic is my setup, second pic was posted here a while ago in this thread. Mind that I have e8400 @ 4050mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
i would sure be willing to do quad vs dual, i just have to talk with a friend of mine to borrow me his quad-core, although I don't think it is really needed.
this multithreading for crysis..when u put highres + high details, fps is same no matter do you have dual or quad cpu.
of course, because at high res everything comes to be gpu bound and not cpu bound :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by t800
A quad core that is not loaded to at least 95% means the application is not well multithreaded! :shock:
Yes, Crysis is about graphics/gpu thing, u can forget multithreading/quad cores, unless you play 640x480 low detail :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro
Now come on you, you don't need to be such a b1tch :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Huh? This is a joke, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Yes, if it was a pure number-crunching app that was not having to output the results anywhere with a slow latency or wait for new inputs from elsewhere. But the app is having to deliver results to the GPU which then renders frames, which takes time. If the GPU is the bottleneck then what is the processor doing while it is waiting? Obviously not pre-rendering future frames, but waiting to synchronise with the results back from the GPU, or get notification that it is clear to send the next set of frame data. So some of the inter-frame time will be idle and waiting on those events, hence the lower CPU utilisation. It's the cross-CPU load (ie. whether 4 out of 4 are fairly equally loaded, or just 1 or 2 at peak load) that shows whether parallel threads are being created and distributed to available cores.
Yes of course, read the last 2 or 3 pages to understand :up:
basicly, this is what i was trying to tell for about 4 pagesQuote:
Originally Posted by IanB
you might want to correct your way of expressing yourself, you were not that clear :rolleyes:, and surely the idea you were defending (or at least what i understood of it) was that Crysis was not multithreaded, but it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
be cool :up:
anyhow...
pretty sure Warhead will end rushed up again, EA are going to want to release before far cry 2 it would seem.
Doesnt sound like good news for us
The groundwork is in place now, So they can build a new game very quickly, Just look at the Sims 2 Expansions :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuuubeh
An image speaks more than a 1000 words :)
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/...ysis-1280h.jpg
yes, I know its a bit thread-digging, but it's here for future "ZOMG, CRYSIS IZ NOT MULTITHREADED" moaning.
at those settings, with 280gtx sli, that's piss poor performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro
The point was to compare dual vs quad core and prove CE2 multi-threading abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
Maybe future drivers will help with that question. :)
Maybe not! :D
:up:
You was waiting to use that on me wasn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-I_see..._did_there.jpg
:rofl:
anyways, Interesting argument on the Multithreading
I absolutely loved the Campaign in Crysis. At the same time though i was a little let down that there wasn't more inter human cooperation between you (an American) and the N Koreans. I though that was the whole point, that after you find a common enemy, (invading aliens) you join forces and start to turn the tide of the battle. That's what alot of review sites where speculating about, and that's why i was all gun-ho about playing it. (what other situation would N koreans, and th US be fighting side by side? EA blew a chance to show the world community that we Americans aren't just war mongering douche bags.) The closest thing to cooperation in the campaign was when you tore a frozen ak47 from the icey cadaver of a north korean....
One more interesting point coming from these later reviews:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1...ucrysisib0.png
Even a dual-core @ 4ghz is bottlenecking that damn card (GTX280) @ those settings :eek:
Not really, if that was the case I'd have used it on you a long time ago :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
I just love it. So precise with almost all of us...
or getting leery of having some balls due to estrogenQuote:
Originally Posted by SoulsCollective
Yet, I got flamed a long time ago for saying Crysis is just poorly coded=P I hope the newer version gets very badly needed improvements. Example, I played STALKER the other day with settings turned up and @1680 X 1050 dang it looked nice:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro
Guys from PCGames.de had a litle interview with Crytek and it seems like the new engine will be highly optimized. Crytek says we should see Crysis Warhead running at 30-35 fps on 'high' using a 400 Euro pc. No word on resolution used.
Also, apparently some people are using badly configurated rigs for 2000 Euro, which are outperfomed by 600-700 Euro (overclocked?) rigs (shame on you guys! :p: ).
It seems like another patch that would optimize the engine for Crysis may eventually be released, however only after they are done with Warhead.
More info on Crysis Warhead and 400 Euro pc will come in PC Games on June 25.
Source: PCGames.de
:peace:
any word on an actual release date
Well I am looking foward to this game. I enjoyed the single player in crysis, though I do agree multi player sucked.
But as I have said before, I have had no problems playing game with high settings on my rig and medium to low settings on my older slow rigs. I never did understand all the whinging about frames? if you have a slow computer, turn off the eye candy and make do with it?? not hard.
Anyway, I liked the engine, and of coarse having already made it, it wont take long to make this new Crysis, but of coarse it will cost exactly the same as the last game, probaboy only cost a quater to produce, and the middle man (EA) will make a killing.
The entire engine is already finished and already payed for itself lots of times over with Crysis. That is somehting worth complaining about.
Crysis Warhead PC Games Trailer - Teaser
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/142581...er_062608.html
regards
Dang it.... I thought this kid got banned already...Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
N/e Ways. I just read the sneak peak from Gamer Magazine. Sounds like it will be adding more eye candy, but the taxing of the system will probably remain the same although they did build some $600 rig with an 8600GT to play it @ max everything....
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...cfc1cda97e5e4f
I was reading this thing about the 3 million crysis, and it seems like it might have been just a rumor at gamespot(that got spread on to wikipedia).
Here is the rumor.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums...6417050&page=0
I was reading starwars galaxy sold better at 1.5 million copies.
People checked the magazine PC Gamer UK and found nothing of the 3 million copies.
Considering that it sold 86.6k in its opening month in the states, I have a hard time believing that it sold 3 million when most other game that sell 3 million have atleast 86.6k on it opening day.
I think the misconception was 1 million SOLD...but 3 million copies ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
the rumor at wikipedia on the crysis section was also taken down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis
It sold a million copies during Novermber, December and january. This can be confimed by plenty of articles.
Considering it's best months would have been its opening months and christmas, I have a hard time believing it would have sold another 2 million copies in 4 months. Which are also the slow months of people buying games considering university, school and people just being too busy.
I would like to see more vehicular action in the new crysis compared to the first. It would be cool to have a level with snowmobiles, and have armored motorcycles... maybe a chase scene. :D
fact is that nvidia pays publishers in this case crytek to optimize their games for the nvidia engine no question you will get the best possible performance in crysis with Nv gpu'sQuote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
Could you provide proof for that "fact"?Quote:
Originally Posted by nsidious
The fact that so many games have the nVidia "The way its meant to be played" right on the box. Meaning that nVidia had the game designed to their architecture. :yepp:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by .Tret
Hehehe, then nVidia should ask them for their money back LOL!j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by nsidious
Of course they pay and AMD can't while struggling for money. It amazes me that Fans futile attempts in the CPU markets to influence folks. Then in the Discrete Video card market where they can influence the market they accept the inedible when it comes to nVidia. I never say never but it will be desparate times before I buy anything from nVidia. IMHO they are the biggest scumbags of all.
the way its meant to be played means that a game is developed to use the Nvidia architekture to its fullest. To use its features etc.
Due to that those games usualy run great on Nvidia hardware when released and poorly on the competitors hardware.
The competition can however close that gap with drivers but they usually need a month or 2 to close that gap.
SHortly after release of the game the game gets tested on Nvidia and GPUs and AMD GPUs and the game then usualy shows the best scores on Nvidia afterwich tons of people buy Nvidia hardware for the game.
1 or 2 months later AMD closes the gap but by that time Nvidia has already sold their extra hardware and the game sales have also slowed down.
TWIMTBP is simply to have a short increase in hardware sales. and sometimes to push a new feature that only your product has (like SM3.0)
New details about Crytek's PC shooter follow-up Crysis Warhead have surfaced in monthly gaming magazine PC Gamer . According to the preview, the possibility of a Crysis 2 relies heavily on Crysis Warhead's performance at the market. While the title isn't necessarily a true sequel, the developers stressed that Warhead is a completely stand-alone, full title. Here's a summary:
- Begins when the original game's Nomad character parts ways with Warhead's new hero, Psycho, and follows him all the way until the two are to reunite again on board the aircraft carrier.
- Mostly located on the other side of the island.
- Less linear approach and more sandbox type of gameplay, as opposed to the original.
- Same nanosuit and the same functions, with more likely to be revealed later (definitely a "surprise" in that matter is promised).
- Singleplayer campaign to last 8-10 hours.
- At least two new weapons, the granade launcher and double SMG.
- Improved enemy AI, betterily able to organize itself and follow tactics.
- New vehicles incl. Armored Scout Recon (about the size of a jeep with a mounted gun) and a hovercraft, both playable in multiplayer as well.
- New team-based MP mode and less complex than the original two.
- Betterily optimized to run faster than the original game on the same hardware.
- Won't require DX10 for maximum details and full effects.
- Dialogues done by Bioshock's Susanna O'Connor.
- Completely stand-alone and as noted by developers, not an add-on but a full title.
- The possibility of Crysis 2 to rely heavily on Warhead's sales.
source + gallery
http://games.tiscali.cz/news/news.asp?id=28147
Sounds GREAT!Quote:
Originally Posted by n!Cola
I'm disappointing to hear it won't require DX10 for full effects. What this tells me is it doesn't take advantage of DX10 at all more than likely. You can already do the above with Crysis, just not through the menu. Make some real DX10(.1) games guys, cmon! And only 8-10 hours of gameplay? I somehow doubt they're being modest too lol. Oh well, I'll buy it either way, I hope there's a Crysis 2.
Warhead HD 40sec In-Game Teaser
http://www.gamershell.com/download_28274.shtml
Edit:
It's looking nice, that snow-ski/hydroplane type vehicle might be interesting!
So this is not Crysis 2? They want me to pay for Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Crysis 2, Crysis xxxx, Crysis yyyy and Crysis 3? :ROTF:
I wonder if they'll ever backport the engine to Crysis....if its really improved that is.
This is more or less a test run... If sales are poor, it's the end of crytek PC exclusives.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Literally, this is more-or-less telling people pirate this and you lose one of the last PC only developers. :(
I will be buying it, i bought Crysis and i will buy Crysis Warhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I bought Crysis, so i'll be purchasing this.
What type of practice is it to drop support on Crysis and move onto a new game? How big of a factor was EA in all of this?
At least EA and DICE didn't drop support right away for BF2 when its expansion packs and 2142 came out. (A new BF2 patch is going to come out soon.)
Well time will tell if Crytec will make good on this release. (I liked Crysis, but dropping patch support early on is a big bummer.) :(
Well i was just building my rig to play crysis when i noticed this thread lol. Guess i've wasted money on some hardware :|. Prepare to buy Nehalem 2000$ cpu's and quad-sli gtx 280s to be able to at least run this game on high :ROTF: I remember when crysis came out there was no hardware to play it maxxed out, i doubt they've learned anything from that. U're saying they've only sold 3 million copies ? Well i'm somehow doubting there are 3 million computers right now worldwide able to play crysis at highest res+ very high details. I'm not spending money on a game that i will probably never be able to play smoothly @max res +max details without selling a kidney to buy hardware. I somehow consider they should start developing 3d benchmarks instead of games, i guess they would be better at that, or at least start taking some coding lessons from valve...
I'm not sure where your spiel comes from... Coding lessons from valve? It's 2008, and valve still hasn't even figured out what real time unified per-pixel lighting and shadows is, which we've seen done since doom 3!Quote:
Originally Posted by Krushnburnz
When HL2 finally came out, it was a generation behind the heavy hitters known as Far Cry and Doom 3 technologically and visually. Some may argue with that, if that wasn't the case then why was it when people imported HL2 maps into the doom 3 engine it looked 10 times better? Meanwhile, they tried Doom 3 and Far cry maps on source, and it looked like crap...
Simple, because HL2 worked so well for older comps because it was in the making for 6+ years! Obviously, it was optimized for older hardware for that reason.
Would you rather crysis look better as time goes on, or would you rather have had the maximum settings in crysis have been medium/high just so you could feel better because you could max it out? Seriously, when doom 3 came out in 2005, you couldn't run Very high without stuttering unless you had a 512mb card, which wasn't a normal thing until the 7800GTX 512mb or X1800XT 512mb, but no one raised nearly the stink people have about crysis...
Personally, I'm glad the game is as hard to max as it is, means I'll have a reason to go back to it next time I upgrade, unlike anything by valve which I haven't played since I beat them in the 5-8 hours each of their titles take. ;)
Also, incase you didn't know...Most gamers play at 1280x1024, and really don't mind if they can't max out a title. They're happy just to be able to play it, and crysis does scale well as you lower the settings.
Maybe they should have released a castrated version of Crysis called "Crysis - Krushnburnz Edition (We've removed the very high settings so now you can say 'I can play crysis maxed')" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Krushnburnz
And as for all this Valve love, when Half life 2 was released, steam was a total mess and the game had serious stuttering issues for lots of users who had spent $$$ on their leet machines, the infamous stuttering bug.
I remember beating FarCry with my 6600GT with Ultra settings 1280x1024 2xAA. :D 45FPS... :p: 587/1168... that was an awesome little beast. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
</reminiscing>
Ok i appologize if my post upset anyone. What i was trying to say was that when HL2 appeared it set a new standard in graphics, just like HL1 did. It had incredible graphics and was scaling very well with older/budget rigs. I remember i played HL2 when it showed up on a sempron 2400+/fx5500 256 mb 128 bit/1gb ddr pc3200 in 1280x1024 all high 4x aa and it was smooth. I didn't even think i would have been able to play it but i installed it anyway and i was shocked how well it was running. I would rather have a crysis once every few years scaling well with older/low budget rigs and an incredibly well built story, then a crysis every 1 year with almost no story, bad scaling, hardware killer. I'm the type that either playes the game for its story disregarding graphics, or play the game for the graphics if story sux. Buying a game that lacks story-wise + i can't play it maxed out on actual hardware unless i have a nuclear reactor in my rig to hold quad sli gpu and xxxx$ cpu doesn't sound like a good investment. Ofc i'm saying this because i'm not swimming in money. I know there are some ppl that will afford buying a rig each time a crysis appears, but then when you consider the price for a game it should be game price+rig price, so you actually pay 50$+xxxx$.
Again though i appologize if my post has upset anyone, i'm not a valve fanboy and i don't have anything with EA or their games. I actually loved alot of their games, i just think crysis is better as a benchmark then a game.
The best way to explain this is Crysis is built on CryEngine2 engine, taht is what is demanding on hardware is the game engine, that isnt going to change unless they change it, which is not happening anytime soon. Meaning everytime a sequel releases it doesn't get any more demanding on hardware than the last game, but hardware does get stronger by the month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krushnburnz
The game is not gonna choke hardware everytime they release a game, they released this engine ahead of time for hype and coverage and to push hardware boundaries. But they are not gonna release a new CryEngine every year that chokes hardware, that would idiotic. You have got the complete wrong idea, your not gonna have to buy a new rig everytime a Crysis releases, the engine doesnt get anymore demanding just by adding a number after the name Crysis. By the way, CryEngine2 is not that bad at scaling, its just ahead of its time.
The problem (for some) is not how CryEngine2 was released, it is when it was released. If CryEngine2 was released 1-2 years from now, people praising valve and source engine would be praising CryEngine2, and there would be no debate. Someone wanted to push the envelope and got smacked for it. The game was not all that great though, it was...ok. HL2 was great, but a little too.....linear, but that was gaming back then, so cant blame them.
I'm buying it. Crysis was fun up until the alien mothership bit. That bit was too long. Then there was the whole 'use alien gun' bit which was a bit annoying, and then VTOL which was about as much use as a mosquito in a tornado.
There won't be any motherships in this one and the rest, let's just hope they've taken some feedback. :)
I liked the mothership part, floating in Zero-G, could have been done better though, gameplay wise. It reminded me of that movie Fire in the Sky, if anyone has seen that, which was really neat. The mothership part needed more physics in play, taht would have made it a bit more fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by bowman
It was neat the first minutes, but they drew it out too long and the alien enemies were just plain annoying. Running out of ammo and having to battle fast wishy aliens with your fists was quite annoying too. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Decami
lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by bowman
i have come out with more ammo from the mothership then i entered with. :p: