Hey guys, I'm also looking for some recommended settings for a Q6600 on the P5Q-E. I'm most interested in knowing what voltages people are using along with other bios settings (there's just too many!). Thanks guys hope you can help!
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Hey guys, I'm also looking for some recommended settings for a Q6600 on the P5Q-E. I'm most interested in knowing what voltages people are using along with other bios settings (there's just too many!). Thanks guys hope you can help!
I have had my p5q-e for a few days,it seems pretty ok.
I have my 6750 at 3.2ghz(400) at stock voltage with my tracers at 1066/5.5.5.15/2.15v.I am gonna try and push it later today.
Whats the best bios for this board? I am on 0610
thanks
I gave it a try today and got 500fsb easy.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080722/Untitled041.jpg
Ram is at 1:1/2.2v,NB is at 1.3v all other settings on auto.I tried higher but no go.500fsb aint bad out of a 65nm 6750.
Also like to know what the most stable OC'ing bios is for this board. Currently using 1102 beta but wonder if I should downgrade to one of the official ones...
I'm using 0802,its the most upto date on asus site,i will wait till the newer ones are official before i try them.It does 500fsb on this bios so i am happy.
Even on stock 0610 bios here 500FSB is no brainer with a good CPU... all Chipsets on stock cooling, barely get warm
Like he said ^ :D
My cpu temps up there ^^,i was not really concerned about nb temp as the nb voltage was only 1.2v.
I reckon,unless you plan going really high fsb.
running beta bios 0901 and i like it. seems this bios likes my chip better. i was only getting 3.6ghz out of my E7200 before with bios 0802 but now up to 3.8ghz, still testing it.
i did boot into windows @ 4ghz but not stable, it takes a lot more volts to get it stable which is why i gave up on it. :(
NB is cool to the touch, much cooler than P35 :up:
I have a Q6600 right now, on a 750i SLI FTW... I'm really getting hammered, OCs aren't stable at load...
Should I go for this board? How much of an advantage does 8-phase digital offer over 6-phase analog?
Now i'd really like to know, with the newer bios', is this board capable of doing the same fsb as the P5Q deluxe with a 45nm dualcore?
It's €40,- cheaper than the deluxe. :)
I need to buy a motherboard any day now,
so I was comparing the dfi P45 with this one.
I would choose the asus only if the express gate is actually working (with any version of bios. not just the stock one)
Can anybody clarify the above?
Yes. Express Gate works with atleast stock + 0802 bios. I'm having a rough time with 0802, nothing will actually work after flashing to it. Some one please link me to 09 beta?
Does anybody know if it is possible to wake on by a usb keyboard with an asus p5q-e mobo ?
My keyboard is a microsoft 200 curve , there is only an option to wake on by a ps/2 keyboard. Maybe it has to do with the energy star 4.0c options?
P5Q-E 1003 bios works fine here :
P5Q-E-ASUS-1003.rar
Do you have the P5Q-E as well? Are you a motherboard collector? :D
Which one do you prefer, the E or the deluxe?
nah mate, just build the E into a small Antec case for my nephew, he's really spoiled as he gets my 8800GTX for free... regarding dual cores there's not much seperating the Dlx from the E... small test with the quad shows that the 16phase gives slightly better results in stability... (if I can believe them OCCT graphs)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1701
1101 Beta Bios
What is the maximum safe value for the cpu pll voltage , for a q6600 ?
I would say 1.6 mate, some mention 1.7 for 65nm but that's too scary for me for 24/7
Hey everyone. I am having trouble running my 2x2gb OCZ Platinum XTC memory (OCZ2P10004GK) past its rated DDR2-1000 speed. My setup is a Q6600 (G0 stepping) using beta bios 1101 on the P5Q-E motherboard, and can run 24hr prime95 stable at 9x380. On a 4:5 divider, I am memtest stable running at DDR2-950. But on a 3:4 divider, I get constant errors on Test 5 running at DDR2-1013. Here are some of my bios settings:
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Timing: 5-5-5-18, row refresh cycle time 55
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 10
All Pull-Ins: Disabled
CPU Voltage: 1.38750 V
All CPU GTL Voltage Reference: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20 (default)
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.10 (default)
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load Lice Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
Advanced CPU Settings: All Disabled except SpeedStep
3:4 divider don't work well with my Q6600 too.
I have this:
400fsb - DDR1066 (3:4) not stable
425fsb - DDR1066 (4:5) stable
Try Leeghoofd tips, if it doesn't work you may try to use 8 multiplier and higher fsb to avoid the 3:4 divider.
Thanks for the tips guys. I tried Leeghoofd's settings, also increased VCore to 1.4 and 1.425 V but memtest would still fail test 5 within the first pass or two. I'll try your suggestion NBF, although I did try 400x8 once but got immediate Prime95 failures so decided to stick with 380x9. I'll try again with Leeghoofd's voltage suggestions next. Right now I'm running memtest at DDR2-950 again to confirm it might be the divider.
Okay so now when I underclock my ram to DDR2-950, I get memtest errors in Test 7. I'm going to raise Vdimm back to 2.10 V and test, since that's what my RAM is rated at.
It could be your NB being not stable as well, not just the mem.
Try increasing NB voltage a tad or lowering PL (tRD).
Any more info on the 'Raptor boot'-problem?..
JH_man
Recently got one of these boards myself too, first thing I did was falsh the bios to the lastest offical one, 0802, just downloaded it to my lappy, and stuck it on a USB stick, then flashed using the bios tool easyflash, thats one tool I do love about ASUS boards.
Anyway I know roughly my CPU will max out around the 4.25ghz mark, so im currently running this board at 500fsb, on a 333mhz strap, with Mem sitting comfy at 1000mhz and the CPU divider on 8.5, all voltages are on stock/auto, except the CPU voltage (1.4375v) and my Mem voltage (2.0v), temp wise, the board/NB is nice and cool, RAM is a bit toasty and prolly will need a fan over it (thats Crucial Ballistix for you) and the CPU, well its priming at the mo, but you can see from the screenie the temps.
Thanks I'll give that a try. Some of these settings like PL I have never heard of before getting this mobo so I don't know how to interpret them. All I know is the manual says higher Performance Level = higher compatability, so how does lowering PL from 10 help?
Higher Performance Level = higher compatability / Better Stability yes, ie like if your having trouble get your mem stable, set the PL higher than 10, Lower Performance Level = Higher Performance, like 7, 8 or 9. only trouble I find with the lower PL's is you have to literaly whack all your voltages up alot higher to keep things stable, a few years back I would of proceeded to do that, but now I just want a semi overclocked machine, 100% stable, without having to test 24/7/365, and loads of noisey fans inside my case alternatly trying to cool everything from the extra voltage, currently im at PL 12.
Compared to a P35 board how this P5Q-E compares ?
I`m puzzled to see that most E8400/E8*00 need some pretty high voltages for 500FSB.
I`m doing 500 with +0.125V (E8200, VID=1.0625) on my Blood Iron, and I`m a bit afraid that I wont see this on a P45. Are my fears true?
Seanie's Show is running 1:1 memory, that requires higher PL.
I'm your case you can let it on auto to start search for stability, latter you may try to lower to 7 or 8 for better performance.
In fact, you could try let almost all on auto, just set Vcore, Vmem and divider. Disable all Advanced CPU Settings.
I'm probably getting my new HSF + P5Q-E on Tuesday/Wednesday.
VID of my Q6600 is 1.2125v...
I'll post results :up:
Hopefully better than my last board...
Yes I ran a test overnight and found multiple errors in test 5 and 7, so now I just do a loop on test 5 because it seems to pick up the errors the quickest. So I set everything to auto except VCore I set to 1.30V (my chip's VID) VDimm to 2.1V (chip's rating) and brought my CPU back to stock speed (9x266). Memory is on a 3:5 divider and clocked at DDR2-890, but I STILL got memtest errors on test 5. I'm testing each stick individually now but getting a little impatient and deterred!!! I do have my dimms in the yellow slots as per mobo manual, maybe I'll try black slots next.
Already wrote a message on the OCZ support forum but likely won't hear back from them until Monday. Should I underclock my cpu to 9x250 so I can run my ram at 1:1 and DDR2-1000? Or maybe 9x333 on a 2:3 ratio and DDR2-1000? Ugggh this is so annoying.
Please keep your suggestions coming guys, I want to rule out all possibilities before I send these back for RMA.
Update: Got test 5 errors within 5 minutes with 9x250 (ram running DDR2-1000). Switched to black slots and got the same. Testing dimms individually now. Is it possible it is a problem with the motherboard memory controller?
If your chasing for 1000mhz on your RAM, try 1:1 but there is no need to underclock you CPU to achieve this, just drop the divider to x8 and raise the FSB, just look at it this way, anything upto 500fsb on this board and you dont have to touch the board voltages, auto set them all does just fine.
I am doing 500fsb on board stock voltages, well sorry they are set to auto in the bios, the only ones I have manually set is the MAIN memory timings 5-5-5-15, the MEM voltage and the CPU voltage, I am now playing and testing with the PL, just to see if I can tighten that up a couple of notches.
There are a couple of other basic options I have manually set like load-line=enabled, both spread spectrums set to disabled, I have also set MEM OC Charger, and Ai Clock Twister to moderate, middle of the road.
1 thing I do have to ask is have you tried testing your RAM at stocks ?
Maybe its time to think about if your RAM is knackered.
Well by underclocking my CPU (9x250), I am running my RAM at stock. I have PC2-8000 memory which is rated for DDR2-1000 at 2.1V. Here is what I own (link).
In dual channel mode, the RAM fails test 5 after 2 passes. In single channel, one stick fails test 5 after 5 passes, the other is going through 13 passes and counting. This is almost conclusively telling me one of my sticks is bad, right?
Please, note that stock voltages are NOT stock voltages if you set it to AUTO or even if you set manually each parameter to the right stock voltage; the mobo overvolts it for you. This is what happen with the deluxe and i think it can be the same on the -E version.
Refer to the "ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion" for info.
;)
Mmmm... I think not. Asus board doesn't tell the voltages.
The auto-overvoltage has been noted by misuring each voltage with a multimeter directly on the board (deluxe). I don't know if the misuration points are identical on the -E version, but I think not. :shrug:
There are some photoes on the deluxe topic about it.
EDIT: pics posted on deluxe discussion on post #472
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=472
LOL, thanks for picking up on this but its kinda why I corrected myself in the same sentance "well sorry they are set to auto in the bios" however, as long as the board isnt bumping any of the voltages itself into the red, then im very happy with what the board is doing itself, I was going to get the Deluxe version myself, however the only differences I can physically see on the deluxe is the 16 phase power, and the SB linked the the NB with a pipe, to me, not worth the extra £25 GBP.
As for voltages and temp monitoring, ASUS dont support it on their lower end boards, the only boards that ASUS make that monitor all voltages and temps, like NB, SB, PLL etc is the ROG series like the Maximus Formula's.
Sorry, I haven't understand your little correction about it.
I would know if someone find the misuration points on the -E version. The pcb is similar but not identical compared to the deluxe
From what I've read I don't think anyone has used a multimeter on a P5Q-E to confirm overvoltage or not, but I'd say it's fairly safe to assume it does based on similarity to the P5Q deluxe and the fact that VCore overvolts.
But regardless, if I set everything to "stock" or "auto", in most cases those values are the minimum the board allows (e.g. 1.80V for RAM). If the board then overvolts beyond that, there's nothing much I can do about that.
Anyway back to my RAM problem, I tried 0704 and 0803 official bios but neither would even post using my old O.C. profile, so I didn't bother to try and reduce my overclock to make it I just flashed back to 1101. I seemed to have gotten good overclocks from that bios, and now that I'm in single channel mode maybe I can push the chip a little further (I was reaching an OC hole around 380 fsb before). I put in an RMA request for my ram on NCIX, so I'll wait to hear from them.
For example, if stock of vFSB is 1,20:
if you set AUTO it can gain to 1,55 and up...
if you set manually stock 1,20V it can gain up to 1,55
but if you set a little higher, 1,22 or 1,24 and so on it doesn't overvolt so much but only a little.
See the graph under the pics with the misuration points at the link:
http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3817
go down long the page.
This problem isn't for vdimm or for vcore (but some users says that vdimm is higher of 0,1V).
jVIDIA voltage readings:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=951
note that with other voltages the reading is different from board to board, only auto and the lower are sure overvolted.
Thanks for the links, thats it, they are set manually now, that link from jVIDIA, scary, CPU PLL Voltage on Auto = 1.82v :shocked::smoke::explode2:
Set NB to 1.3v, FSB to 1.3v, and CPU PLL to 1.56v, kept them a bit low to compensate for the little extra it adds itself and also to see how they go for starters.
did anyone else using the latest official bios have a problem with the board insisting on setting the PL at 5 when ever it was at auto?
does anyone know what the safest for 24/7 on a 45nm cpu is for vtt, cpu pll, and vcore?
So far these are my results on the latest official bios under load with 1.3 vcore 1.3 vtt, 1.56 cpu pll, 1.3 nb. That's about as high as this cpu will do for fsb and maintain stability.
EDIT: what about GTL what's the percentage of the vtt that you are suppose to use for 45nm cpu's and the p45 nb?
Most people wont set the CPU PLL higher than 1.6v however some will goto 1.7v, dont find out the hard way like I did by setting this to auto, otherwise the board will bang the full 1.82v through it. as for the CPU voltage, the gospel safe zone for CPU voltage is 0.20v above your CPU Vid, my CPU Vid (E8400) is 1.220v and I am banging 1.41v through it overclocked, just below the recomended, NB voltage I would say is pretty good up to about 1.55v-1.6v Max, but its gonna get toasty under there with that much voltage so aditional cooling will be required, As for GTL's, they are on Auto for me with a dual core, you can set them manually and get a tiny bit more out of your CPU, but to be honest I really cant be bothered with it for the extra I might or might not achieve, however they are more or less required to be set for good clocks on a quad core.
ASUS P5Q-E Bios 1003 officially released:
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...us&model=P5Q-E
yes / no, sorry to be blunt, but you might need more NB and FSB voltage for the higher Quad clocks, as a quad core is harder on the board, and also will prolly have to set you GTL's which can be a complete and utter pain in the butt. as for CPU voltage, its never advised to go any higher that 0.20v above the vid for any CPU, and stick to 1.6-1.7v CPU PLL for any CPU also.
Hmmm okay so what does it mean when you're 13hr prime95 + memtest stable, but crash after 30 mins of Crysis? I have a Q6600 (G0) on P5Q-E (1003 bios), here are some of my bios settings:
444x8
NB Strap: 333
DRAM freq: 1067
DRAM timings: 5-5-5-15
Performance Level: 10
VCore : 1.45000
PLL : 1.60
VTT : 1.40
VDimm : 2.00
NBCore: 1.30
I had the same problem with my P5Q. Try different PL settings. I got crashes when playing crysis with any other setting than 8. The same thing happened when I set vNB over 1.26 and it overheated, but I guess that it shouldn't be problem the P5Q-E since it has better NB cooling.
pci slot above the pci-e mess I love it
Try any PL value, even lower ones can be better. I get serious unstability at PL10 or more. I'm very confused but I doublechecked it: 8 is rockstable, 9 crashes in 1-2 hours of Crysis, 10 crashes in 15 minutes of crysis and 11 or more crashes in 2 seconds of crysis.
Yes PCI-E should be 100, but 101 wont make any difference really, basically your have overclocked the PCI Express bus by 1mhz, nothing.
Back to the PL thing hey, did you set your PL to 10 manually ?, if you set it to auto what does your system set it too ? if your having to set 10 now for stability in Prime and Memtest etc, then you definatly not gonna hit the 7/8's.
If Crysis is crashing then maybe its a P45 compatability thing, who knows, I dont play Crysis, dont like it, I see it as a slightly modded version of FarCry, and just been ripped, however have a look around, search google, see if anyone else has got the same problems, maybe there is a fix/patch for it, or even save you overclock to a profile space in the bios and load stock settings for everything then try Crysis again, this will narrow down if its the board or the overclock.
Actually you know what I Think it was my video drivers for my 9600GT. I was running modded drivers by Tweakforce, but as soon as I reverted back to official forceware 175.19 for Vista x64, Crysis seems to be A-OK.
So what's the best bios for this board then?
I just got myself this board but i won't have time to build it in before saturday. :(
How bout the memoryslots? Are the black ones still better than the yellow ones for overclocking? The manual does not say anything about it.
I have board revision 1.01G PCB made in china, did i get an old version like always?
Official bios 1003 works fine for me. There is a beta bios 1102 (or 1103? I forget) that you can find linked in this thread, not sure if it's much better or different. Also the manual DOES say that the yellow memory slots are better for overclocking so use those first if you only have 2 dimms.
Im using the yellow ones myself too, to be honest I always use the slots closest the CPU socket area first (Channel A), and with only 2 stick would not really put them in the black slots anyway (Channel B), but I dont think ive looked through the manual at all yet so I cant comment on what the manual says about which slots to use.
As for the bios, I would stick to the offical bios 1003, its beautiful and stable, and ive achieved the same clocks as I had on the 08xx bios but with less voltage, therefore everything is running cooler, myself personally, I would never flash a beta bios, it voids warenty and if anything goes wrong, then you have pretty much killed your board.
anyone else running 4 dimms or 8gb or ram? i can get the ram stable on volts but not sure how much NB i should use trying to get windows stable at 450fsb(3.6) or at least 425fsb
vcore 1.25 for 3.2ghz upped it to 1.3 for 425/450 can boot into windows fail prime
gtl .635 for both
NB 1.3 for 400fsb tried 1.34 for 425/450
SB 1.2
PLL 1.54
PCI-E 1.6
1103 posted on ASUS FTP site. Update: Also posted on Asus website here. Changelog says "Enhance the compatibility with certain memory."
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-1103.zip
SS and wongnog, thanks guys. I will see which bios is on it first, if it's bad i will flash 1103. ;)
Can someone see what is the revision printed on the board?
Thanks.
(Mine is 1.01G, arrived today), are all the same?
1.01G here.
I have just updated to the 1103 bios,seems ok upto now.I hope it means ballistix will actually work in this board,i have rma'd my 8500 tracers for the new 2.0v spec non tracer 8500's.I had endless bsods with the xxx1065 tracers so i hope these xxx106A non tracers are better.
Thats very strange, im using 4gb of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 PC6400 800mhz Tracer Red overclocked to 1030mhz, and didnt have any trouble with it in this board at all, just posted first time. This board says it supports Crucail memory in the Asus Memory Support List, I have never had any problems with Asus and Crucial, and been using them together for years, infact Asus are one of the only board manufacturers that actually list Crucial Products in there Memory Support List.
Hello.
It was something to do with the 8500 sticks,i bet your 6400's are duel sided.The single sided 8500 tracers were a fecking pain in the arse,i reinstalled twice,tried xp and vista,same thing.It was'nt until i put in the 1gb stick of pc6400 reaper that it ran fine.
They seem to be ok upto now,i have had them in a few hours now and no bsods or anything.
my settings with air
asus p5qe bios 1103
memory g.skill pc8000 2x2GB@2,0V
cpu Q6600 GO V-ID=1,275 polish @1,39V
fsb 440x8@3,52 under air with TT Ultra 120X
normal prime
http://www.abload.de/thumb/prime440x8ywj.jpg
prime and superpi 1M
http://www.abload.de/thumb/test1mbc6.jpg
prime and superpi 4M
http://www.abload.de/thumb/4mprime4v9.jpg
prime and superpi 8M
http://www.abload.de/thumb/8mprimeppj.jpg
prime 400x9@3,6
http://www.abload.de/thumb/prime400x9xmi.jpg
and this here is @3,8ghz multi 9
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=398265
looks good siyah! Have you done any prime95 testing for more than an hour though?
yes 2 hours no problem:D i like this config i had now @1,40V prime stable
http://www.abload.de/thumb/fsb400x98m9d4.jpg
http://www.abload.de/thumb/prime2std440x89py.jpg
New 1201 Bios lads :
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-1201.zip
Is it any good or not? I want to know before I jump into the lake.
If it's the same as the P5Q Dlx it's pretty good, adds some better scores for the ram and enhances compatabilty according the changelog from the Dlx... will flash tomorrow at my parents...
My p5q-e has been pretty much out of commision b/c it will not overclock with my geil ram. Will only run at stock clock. Hope this helps, thanks.
i have flash the new bios 1201 and it works great Q6600@3,6 prime stable
Siyah forgot to ask but could you post your Q6600 at 3.6 Ghz bios settingsÉ
Has anyone tested this board with a Q9550? I am in need of a new board and was wondering if the Deluxe is worth the price difference for my chip?
Thanks.
My rev 1.01G board shipped with 0605 BIOS - utter CRAP with my E7200, immediately flashed to 'official' 1103, and am at a very stable 523fsb, have run at 550fsb w/o issue but am trying to get my 9200 Reapers dialed in before I push higher again. I have gotten them to DDR1203 at 3:4 divider, but am going for 1:1 now.
My chip does 3944 fairly easily, does not want to push beyond it without too much work and voltage.
FWIW - I'm using my XP64 Pro setup straight off my P5K Pro mobo with only new chipset software and some driver changes. Once I get the limits of the P5Q-E figured out I will slick the drives and go with a fresh RAID 0 install.