Setfsb, ICS9LPRS906CGLFQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
enable Ultra fsb, otherwise you hit a limit at 520fsb and get an error.
Setfsb, ICS9LPRS906CGLFQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
enable Ultra fsb, otherwise you hit a limit at 520fsb and get an error.
Thanks for the help guys, for some reason I must have missed that. I'm an idiot :D Back to clocking this quad, 485x9 works with 1.525vcore, time to see what she can do on a single-stage with more attention to tweaking :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
i just got this board, and am confused...
on the platinum, all 8 pins on the 2x4 connector are open. on the neo2, 4 of them are blocked off. is this right? am i supposed to, or should i pull off the block and use all 8 pins? use this in combination with the standard molex connector?
Pull off the block its just there for users who have a 4p PSU. As for the molex, I don't use it and have no problems.
if your PSU has an 8-pin plug use it there (take off the cover) If your PSU has a 4-pin plug, just plug it in there in the free 4 holes. The molex is used in tha case of crossfire or full complete pci population
Alright, that's pretty much what I expected, just making sure... the only thing that didn't make sense is why the Platinum doesn't have the blocker...
Fitting 7/16" tubing over an MCP655 inlet (at least from the angle I attempted) might have been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Who knows... my FR (v1.1) didn't have the blocker either.
Do you have some OC value suggestions for setting an Q6600 (G0) to 3Ghz for stable 24/7 use?
CPU Voltage
VTT FSB Voltage
NB Voltage
SB I/O Power
SB Core Power
Ram: Transcend Axeram 800+ Stock : 4-4-4-12@1.85v intended for 1066 5-5-5-15, voltage still to be found.
Got my board in. Hit 500 x 7 with no problems. It automatically adjusted my motherboard voltages when I increased the FSB. So far, I like it! Scoring 14k in 3DMARK'06 with 8800 GT.:up: BTW, FSB jumper set at 333.
I tried up to 1.6.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
somehow I find superpi faster on 1.1 bios.
Maybe i sux @ spi.
Am still back to 1.1.. heehee...
(individual preference i guess. :D)
Juz to share mine : E4300 w/neo2-fr
(Its abit slow... i really dun know how those guys get such madness timings.)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...410_spi32m.jpg
You are using Q6600 SLACR? G0 rev?Quote:
Originally Posted by monographix
If so, I think stock voltages
should hit 3ghz easily. :)
Why dun you juz set the jumper to 333mhz fsb.
(Beside the 1st pcie-1x slot.) :)
Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
Luv to see your results. :D
yeap SLACR, thats what i did initialy, stock is 1.25 but looks more stable with 1.26v . i wonder about the rest of the voltages, system seems more stable with those tweaked a tad as well but having a hard time finding the best minimums.Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
Set strap jumpers to 333 but thinking of changing to 266 (should i?) just to have the default clocks option back
whats with the PCIE 1x again?
Oh, juz referring to where the jumpers are located. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by monographix
What added features are there in the 1.76 beta bios and where did you find the betas?Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
I get my MSI P35 neo 2 fr . I want to tested max FSB , but i cannot set a lower multi . I have 1.4 bios .
Anybody got a Vdroop mod for it yet?
i want to get this board th run with a e6750 and a 8800 gt. looks like a great combo that will support cyrsis. Such a beautiful game so many requirements. hoping to do a new build with this board
I've problems overclocking with 2GBx2 memory kit. Anyone using 2GBx2 RAM with this board? Mind sharing some infos on the RAM?
I have 2x1Gb Transcend "Axeram 800+" DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 @ 1.85v stock, running at 1066 5-5-5-12 @ 2.10v (testing 2.05v)Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
I also prefer bios 1.1 because of the reduced memory latency, for example with 1.6/1.76 my memory is auto set at 5-6-6-18 (800MHz)and with 1.1 is set at 5-5-5-13 .
I have a Q6600 G0 and 4x1GB Team Elite DDR 800.
Max fsb I run into was 480MHz but for every day use (most of the time) I have the follwing settings (bios 1.1):
-fsb 400MHz x 8(3.2GHz)
-mem 960 MHz 1:1.2 (auto 5-5-5-16)
-cpu vcore 1.2875
-mem 1.90v (default)
-cpu vtt 1.250
-NB 1.300
-SB 1.6
-sb v 1.05 (default)
Running prime 95x4 gives me a max 55C on the cpu using TT Big Typhoon and 34C on the NB (temp probe). On idle it's about 26C for cpu and 27C NB.
I just love this board so far.
As a note, running 4 dimms gives you about 4% less bandwidth and need loose latencies compared to 2x1GB.
Did you disable Intel Speedstep? Btw, the lowest multiplier is 6x.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo_catalin
I just found out that BIOS 1.1 lets the owner to set Vcore 0.05V lower than VID. Vdroop is is small too.
Of course i did .Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
I have paired the ocz 4-4-3-15 4GB EB with the board b4.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
I couldn't scale pass 820mhz.
Its weird, that on the same pair,
my friend did 1090mhz.
I have no idea if its a compatibility issue or what.
You might want to take a look.
http://www.futron.sg/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25
I have since sold off the rams.
I still like the board very much. :)
It's something weird with memory settings/compatibility on this board.
I can do up to 1100MHz on 5-5-5-16 but no more than 820MHz on 4-4-4-12.
Maybe they can fix this in some new bios. Actually I would like them to improve 1.1 bios and forget about the others.
Update on my settings:
Q6600 G0 - 4x1GB ddr800 team elite - bios 1.1
400x8 3.2GHz - 960MHz 5-5-5-16 (1:1.2)
CPU 1.275v (almost default)
mem 1.90v (default)
CPU Vtt 1.200 (default)
NB 1.250 (default)
SB 1.5 (default)
Runs great for a 24/7 setup, low temps, fans on 5v.
definately board or bios problems because with 2Gb sticks I've problems going above 820-830mhz. will let msi know about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
I have no problem at all pushing my G.Skill 4GBPQ to >1000MHz on this board. :rolleyes:
Gotta say this board kicks loads of butt with this quad and it's a huge step up from my P965 board. Managed to hit DDR2-1176 5-5-5-15 with relatively loose subtimings with only 2.3v with my D9GKX. The kicker though was 5-5-5-15 timings, 1.8v, and 1032MHz 24/7 stable :D Also does 3-3-3-9 2.3v 826MHz 24/7 stable, when I get back going to pump 2.5+v and see how this board will really fly. The limited quad testing I've done has shown 500FSB stable with moderate to high motherboard voltages but CPU voltages themselves are shockingly low. Going on vacation tomorrow so I won't have a chance to post any results, but for $90 or so this board is definitely a good buy.
Which version BIOS you are using ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
v1.6
I tried 1.6, I can go higher with that .. like 1080MHz on the memory but on very lazy latencies .. like 5-7-7-21. Compared to 1:1 has no advantages except that you get higher nr on MHz, but on real memory bandwidth you get the same or even lower transfer rates due to high latency.
I have had great luck with my MSI p6 platinum 650i. It cranked on overclocking my Q6600 to 3.6 on air no problemo, but i want a 780i board now...
Got another 4GB kit. This time it's Patriot Signature 4GB kit. Same problem. Can't pass FSB 420. Tried BIOS 1.6 too. Seems like compatibility problem with 2GB sticks.
I cannot get it too run with the 1:1.25 divider (947). It wont even boot into windows. Runs fine in the 1:1.2 divider (909). I don't think it's my memory, G.Skill 4GBPQ, because I had no problems reaching 1000 at 1:1 divider. May be a 1:1.25 divider issue with the board. Using 1.1 bios. Anybody experiencing the same?
Click the link in my sig for CPU-Z Validation of my 24/7 settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
Keep tryin' :rolleyes:
I have the same issue. Reminds me of my P5B-Deluxes, they would not run the 4:5 divider worth a damn either. Anything above about 410, using 4:5, I can't even post. But with 5:6, no trouble all the way to 460. (Haven't tried higher)Quote:
Originally Posted by jon5
I agree. I am coming from the P5D Deluxe and the 4/5 divider would not work there either. I am running Prime right now at 425 fsb and 1020 on the memory. 2 hours in, and no problems so far. Stock volts, 2.10 on the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] 4X4N
Just can't pass 420mhz. Not sure what's the problem. Ive tried resetting BIOS, changing different BIOS and etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
So I'm the faulty one..Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
arrgghh...
haha... thanks for the info. :)
Anyway not to concerned with 2gb sticks. :D
The board is good.
Juz bought an MSI 8800GTS512.
Got to try it out when i'm free some time. :D
I dont know if i should RMA my own Neo2-FR ....
CPU: Q6600
1. It has never shown CPU Fan rpms being more than 1100 (AFAIK shoudl be 2000-2700) ... I get 77C under orthos load at stock 2.4 and 84 @ 3Ghz .... Either is misreading both CPU fan rpms and temperatures or is not controlling the CPUfan at all and indeed temps raise that high ... smartfan is not working anyways no matter what settings
2. Lost two times the 16x link width of the PCIE16x to 1x and then revived again, have no clue how and why
3. all bioses above v1.3 will give me as starting VCORE setting the 1.30v (instead of the proper 1.25v). 1.3v will be the lowest option in the vcore menu settings .... (and the measured voltage with this setting is 1.272)
4. bios 1.76 wont save the settings at all always post up with "bad checksum error Press F1 to enter setup or F2 to load default values and continue" message. No matter what i do (I think this happened with 1.6 too). Ofcourse did complete CMOS clearing, no power etc
1. Find out what CoreTemp reports about your temperatures, should't have problems reporting the right ones.
2. Could be because of bios flashing problems.
3. They are set to a 1.3000v default because the vdroop is bigger, you should normally get 1.275 (default) when set to 1.300v . For example, in bios 1.1 you get 1.3000v in idle when you set 1.2750 in bios. From 1.3 -> it's the other way around.
4. Looks to me like you didn't use afud 408 and you used 412 or 418 that sometimes writes the bios with errors and they don't destroy cmos data.
1. Did you enable Smartfan?Quote:
Originally Posted by monographix
2. Not sure what you did.
3. All bios after 1.3 will set the VID of the CPU to the lowest Vcore.If the VID of your Q6600 is 1.3V then the lowest Vcore setting is 1.3V
4. Try to reflash the bios again. I had this problem last time and a reflash will fix the problem. Btw 1.67 beta7 is around.
I contacted MSI technical support and they told me they will investigate about compatibility and overclocking 2GB memory sticks. Here is a reply i got :
Can anyone check their board and let me know the MB'ERP number? Thank you.Quote:
Dear SIr/Madam,
Thanks for contacting MSI Technical Support again.
Please kindly provide us your MB'ERP number(refer to the below picture) and we will copy your problem.If we can copy this issue and we will fix it ASAP.If we release the new BIOS and we will contact you ASAP.
Thanks for your cooperation in advance.
Best regards
MSI Technical Support Team
http://support.msi.com.tw/images/up_...8474437_up.JPG
Mine has 030, i have that same memory and can only run it at 1:1.2 divider. Thanks for informing MSI a bios fix will certainly help us.:up:
Can you post our max FSB and RAM overclock? How about voltage? I can't pass FSB 420 and RAM 840mhz with highest voltage and loose timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxlplx
Sorry m8, when i got the settings on my sig p95 stable and can pass 32m superpi i dismantled my system to mod my case to fit in another mcr360 rad but my ram is running at 1000mhz at 2.0v i think. I'll try for the max i can get when i put it back on.
wyemarn I have this memory, 2 kits and if I use only one kit (2x1GB) I can go way over 1000MHz on 2.0v, I was at 1080MHz 5-5-5-16 2.0v and there was room for more but didn't push it.
This is the memory I'm talking about:
http://happy.ap.teacup.com/occ2/3.html
i have this board since 1 month now , using 1.6 official bios (flashed today with 1.7 beta 7 bios )
Using 2x1GB OCZ XTC Titanium EPP @ 1002Mhz 4-5-4-12 2T ( 6-5-4-5)
+ 1 Micron D9 Based 800Mhz memory @ same speed total 3GB ;]
Xeon 3060 can do easy 7x500Mhz @ 1.478V = 1.465 Real
Runnin 24/7 @ 9x401 ~3609Mhz + EIST Enabled ,
Cooled by Scythe Ninja Rev.B
Great board.
Will post pics soon.
I'm running Biosversion 1.63B now for a couple of weeks and this beta seems to be quite stable. The only thing witch is bothering me is the fact that you can't undervolt the cpu. are there any other biosversions which are offering the feature of undervolting?
Hi tty, Thanks for the reply. I've used that memory before. I can push that beyond 1000mhz too. Now with 2GBx2, I cant go beyond 840mhz. Are you the writer of that review?Quote:
Originally Posted by tty
If I'm not mistaken, BIOS 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 allow the user to undervolt 0.05V below VID. So if your VID is 1.35V, you set the lowest Vcore to be 1.3V.Quote:
I'm running Biosversion 1.63B now for a couple of weeks and this beta seems to be quite stable. The only thing witch is bothering me is the fact that you can't undervolt the cpu. are there any other biosversions which are offering the feature of undervolting?
Nah, thats not enough. I was thinking of regions below 1V;)
Cool man...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bl4ck^!
Luv to see some pics soon. :D
Well , as you can see i have some trouble with the 1.7 Beta 7 bios , it isn't stable with the 4-5-5-15 timings :/ i'll just rollback to official 1.6
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6372/xeonkq6qt4.jpg
MSI told me to try out Performance BIOS P09 for 2GB modules' overclock. Anyone try before?
i can try it , where is it available ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
Here it is:
http://www.badongo.com/file/5585294
I heard it has some bug with some G92 cards but not sure.
I'll try it too.
ftp://jerryuser:msienduser@ftp.msi.com.tw/BIOS/7345/
MSI beta bios FTP.
Very good chip u have there. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bl4ck^!
I like. :D
heh , i like it too , but i wouldn't mind if it where QX9650 ;F (as we all wouldn't iQuote:
Originally Posted by clon22
'm sure )
Going to check that Performance 09 beta bios today, looks like it's legit.
Tried P09, it's bollocks. Same like 176/177 .
P09 gives me constant "CMOS checksum error" can't save anything, but the good news is that i removed one "troublesome" memory stick (micron D9) and left the other 2 OCZ XTC and bumped the cpu a little ;>Quote:
Originally Posted by tty
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=288234
nothing special , but i will brake the 4Ghz barrier , only a matter of time.
The BIOS is 1.7 beta 7
I highly recommend to use afud408 to flash the bios, 412 and 418 cause cmos errors, basically they don't destroy it.
Did you guys try out the USB memory stick BIOS flashing by MSI forums? I've been using it all this while and it's great. Everything is automated.
yep, i only use the tool to make a bootable stick , then i cancel the "auto" mode and prefer to flash myself ;] (old school ;f)Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
must try that method with older flashing tool, i did use the AUFD412 since it common practice to use the latest flash tool with the latest bios (at least that was the fact with ASUS boards ) but i Guess MSI does it different ;]
Today it's going to be a busy day for me ;]
Yes I'm using that, actually I use a usb flash drive ever since.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyemarn
It's alot more safer than floppy disk, besides, I don't even run a floppy drive for ages.
I used the usb too.
Very convenient. :D
Been using afud412 to do my flashing...
so far all is well...
pray nothing goes wrong..
heehee...
When you hit 4ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bl4ck^!
I'd luv to see some 3Dm06 cpu scores
and nuclearus multicore. :D:D
PCI Cirrus Logic 5480 2mb ;D and voila
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=289941
Super Pi 1m run , bumped the vcore to 1.57 just to be "safe" ;] , memory @ 5-5-5-15 just to be sure that they aren't the "culprit"
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5...perpi1mux7.png
Right now I'm using official bios 1.6 I would like to know which bios has the best overclocking on memory? Will bios 1.7 improve memory overclocks and timings? My A-Data Vitesta is supposed to hit 1066Mhz and I can only get 962Mhz.
is your Vitesta guaranteed by the manufacturer to hit 1066 ? , i didn't find any kind of differences with different bios'es , 1.6 is ok , i'm now on 1.7beta7 and i don't see any difference , some ppl like the 1.1 version , some 1.3 or 1.4Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
You have to check what version is best for you.
P.S. Xeon booted with 4.0Ghz and 4.3Ghz but either not enough V for cpu or fubar ;F
I'd like to know how that MSIHQ tool works ... for instance where does it get the boot files from, and what about the SureHands option, and how does it know the difference between a beta bios & an official one.
it's just bunch of DOS files, and generic USB Key boot files + the MSI .bat filesQuote:
Originally Posted by WSX
there are only a few supported MSI Boards , the tool recongnizes from the BIOS name for example MSI 7345 (P35-Neo2) and since the FR and FIR use the same bios it's all good,Quote:
Originally Posted by WSX
beta bios is named like this A7345IMS.177 (the extension of the file is for version 177 or 176 )Quote:
Originally Posted by WSX
and the official has xxxx.bin extension ;]
good to know ... but I still like to do it myself when it comes to BIOS updates, I stick 3 or 4 BIOS on a CD together with afudos & the boot files, then it's easy to change between them.
Very nice xeon u have. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bl4ck^!
Really depends on the individual...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Personally, I still like v1.1. :)
The biggest difference I see with Bios 1.6 vs. 1.1 is the lowest Vcore setting for my Q6600 was 1.225v on 1.1 vs. 1.275v on the 1.6 bios. I have a GO stepping quad core. The 1.6 bios undervolts the vcore slightly while the 1.1 bios overvolted the vcore significantly, 1.225v could register 1.625v on bios 1.1.
The ADATA memory was tested by many professional sites all achieveing well in excess of 1066Mhz. One review guarantees over 1000Mhz while another guaranteed at least 1066Mhz. The ram is called DDR2 800+ and it's ADATA's performance ram.
I really like the MSI board and flashing the bios with a memory stick is easy.
from 800+ adatas you can not be 100% sure that you get micron d9gmh. some of the 800+ modules are based on promos and maybe others tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Here is a 3.905g score for ya. I could not get 4g too complete cpu test...Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4432304
Your Cpu score is very high for 3.9ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon5
Wow!! :D
Very good results. 16.1k. :D
well it's a quad :p: :cool: , probably G0 that's the 3.9Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
Is there enough space around the socket to place on the motherboard a huge heatsink such as Scythe Infinity (or any other)? I think chipset cooling system is to close to CPU socket, isn't it?
i have a Scythe Ninja Rev.B and it has enough room , Infinity will fit also.Quote:
Originally Posted by L'enFer
I have a TRUE with 2 120mm strapped to it, no problem.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by L'enFer
Thanks!! We had some cool weather here that allowed me to crank up the volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
Thanks for the answers.
Hey, hi all and happy new year =D
I just pulled the trigger with this board (Neo2-FR), C2D E6550, OCZ 2*1GB 800mhz.
I saw on the MSI website that this CPU is supported in BIOS 1.4 or higher.
As it seems that Bios 1.1 is the best for overclocking and with less vdroop, i would like to know if someone here have an E6*50 CPU using a Bios older than 1.4.
I guess i will have to stick with Bios 1.6 because it seems to be the best one besides 1.1
Thanks in advance!
How far have you gone with your E6550? Actually there is no difference between in terms of Vcore delivery to your CPU with bios 1.1 or 1.4. Bios 1.3 and lower allows the user to set the lowest Vcore 0.05V lower than the VID. For example my E6320's VID is 1.35VQuote:
Originally Posted by [LCN]Knowledge
Bios 1.6
Lowest Vcore setting - 1.35V
Idle Vcore - 1.32-1.33V
Load Vcore - 1.30-1.31V
Bios 1.1
Lowest Vcore setting - 1.30V
Idle Vcore - 1.33-1.34V
Load Vcore - 1.30-1.1V
I've tried Pent D 930, Pent Dual-Core E2140 and now E6320. The behaviour is the same so there is not much difference. Btw, you can try out beta bios 1.77 or performance bios P09 for overclocking.
:) I just got this board after Christmas and Revision 1.1 came with bios 1.1.
I went on to overclock E6600 without flashing the bios. Well the board' s revision mattered to me more than the bios but I will have to flash the bios when new line of 45 nm processors come out. Anyways, I uped the fsb to 378.
378 X 9 = 3402 mghz vcore was @ 1.3 but It was not prime95 stable.
I ran more tests upping the voltage and It seems like my E6600 is stable @ vcore 1.3750 when running @ 3402 mghz. I wish bios had an option to change NB and SB voltages.
I am running my 2gb crucial ballistix PC8500 at 756 3-3-3-12 @ 2.1 vcore ( low speed cuz i prefer running RAM 1:1 with the processor)
As for the temperature, my room temp is around 75'F right now
and My E6600 running 3402mhz @ 1.375 vcore idling @ 32/33'c
and when under load (prime95 FTT) @ 57'c. I use Zalman 9700 led air cooler.
I am very satisfied with this board overall. price was only 100 bucks after $20MIR so I have no complaints.
This board has NB and SB voltage options :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpeyedman
Does someone use MSI Dualcoe center? I can't get it to work.
Thats Great news. I only had the board in hand for couple days. I must have missed it. Is is available in bios? which version? does bios 1.1 have this option as well? is it under cell menu? I have not installed and used MSI utilities yet such as dualcore
They both ahve it it's called mch voltage iirc.
it was right undeneath mem voltage i ust didnt know that i could just scroll down. thanks for reminding me :D
Same with me. Dualcore Center not working. Yup. NB is MCH and SB is SB Core. Default voltage for MCH is 1.25V and SB is 1.05V.Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
Currently I'm running at FSB 440 with all voltage options in lowest. I don't need to raise chipset voltages till I hit FSB500.
I remembered I downloaded a patch for corecenter somehwere here.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...754798&page=17
No harm trying. :D
I'm waiting for mine to arrive X), i guess i will have to throw in my old Pentium 4 in order to upgrade the BIOS to 1.4 or 1.6, Cuzz the E6550 wont work with 1.1 Bios i guess (but I wish it works).
I think it does...Quote:
Originally Posted by [LCN]Knowledge
I'm using bios 1.1 but on E4300 and Q6600G0.
You see the 1st pg..
the test was done on E6550 and v1.1...
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=1754798
why are these boards shipping with such an early BIOS v1.1, I ordered mine yesterday and if it comes with v1.1 it's going straight back to the etailer
and if they can't or won't flash it I'll look elsewhere, I'm waiting for the wolfdales to arrive, they need BIOS v1.6
are the BIOS chips on P35 Neo2-FR/FIR's soldered on or are they removable, tia
-
Soldered. :)
it should work out of the box... the fsb, the multi and the voltage required by the e6550 are nothing extraordinary. 1333 fsb, 7 multi and 1,35 vcore. i mean thats all things we have seen from other cpu's as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by [LCN]Knowledge
Oh, i saw that review, but i missed the CPU-Z screenshot showing BIOS V1.1 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by clon22
Thanks!, i guess i wont have problem if the board comes with that BIOS.