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Originally Posted by NOGOODUSERID4ME
If someone needs to make a bootable USB drive, follow these instructions here. I used this to make a bootable USB for video card flashing.
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...g/vidcard/34/5
Hmm, in that case is it better to get a Q9450? It only has the 8x multi, but I'm not sure if FSB or CPU will be my limiting factor with 8GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I've asked this question before, but that was before I decided to go with 8GB.
Thanks guys.
I asked this too and people said that this board can handle 8 gigs (4 sticks) pretty well. I have 4 sticks too but havent even gone beyond stock. Not until it cools down outside!Quote:
Originally Posted by NOGOODUSERID4ME
Does anyone know if the TRUE 120 fits in either orientation on the x48 LT ?
45nm quads not lookin too good on high fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by NOGOODUSERID4ME
for me a good q6600 is as good as a q9450
i would not worry runin 4 sticks on the board
So the extra expected clock speed is enough to outweigh the other advantages of 45nm (SSE4, 12MB L2, less heat...)?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Also, how is the new BIOS working?
EDIT - Would the Q6700 be even better?
Yeah has anyone fettled the new bios yet or have you downgraded back to a older one as i can`t seem to get 4005Ghz stable on the 714 bios for some reason.
new bios not stable enough for me to play withQuote:
Originally Posted by wilson
i'm runnin ut x48 602 its good enought till dfi makes a better stable bios
nogood i'd actually consider a q6700 over a q6600
i got a feeling only the p45 chipset is actually better for 45nm quads
me i lookin forward to an e8600 or e8650
lol for me the new bios is a lot more stable and works with my oc profile for the 3/20 bios and it no longer takes about 10 reboots to get into vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
cause 320 suked bad lolQuote:
Originally Posted by safan80
yeah it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
So what user settings did you go with to make it post? Praz's post about HAVING to manually set the correct DS/DDS and DLL has me worried. I don't want to go through the upgrade process only to have to revert back if I can't get it to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
Axis
The board will post fine at default settings. But a person cannot expect high clocks without those four settings having the proper values entered.Quote:
Originally Posted by axis
would be nice if we got some with those lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Thanks Praz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Yes it would be nice for someone "in the know" to post a guide for adjusting these settings.
Axis
I hope Clunk will add these new feature in his guide soon
Isn't much to post a guide about. DS/DDS are memory drive strengths. Use no stronger then necessary to stabilize the ram. DDL Mode models are for different types of ram. Experiment to find which model works best.
that 1 is easy to figure out i asked u before what is strongest 1 or 8Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
we need help with gtl xtra settings that are in hex
wtf would dfi just make it hex lol yes i know bios in hex but oscar should make a guide or something cause that gtl mch combination is infinite n verry hard to figure out unless your a coder lol
i'm not a dummy but i no genius either :rofl: if i were i'd write me a bios:D
Anand's review of this board has some recommended MCH settings.
this is from anantech
MCH Vref 1/2/3 Value
The defaults for these three settings are 00/00/80. DFI informed us that all three settings must be moved in unison, i.e. the ratio between all three settings should be maintained if making any adjustments. Up to 500 FSB, adjustment of these three settings is not usually necessary (though the FSB threshold for required adjustment may be lower for quad-cores). Unfortunately, there is little information available to us as to exactly which part of the MCH is driven by these reference voltages.
However, through some fiddling, we have found that a value of 30/30/B0 works quite well on our board once beyond 500FSB with a 45nm dual-core CPU. Effects can be marginal at times and at others provide the MCH with enough offset to boot into the OS and allow a benchmark to run. With a hexadecimal scale ranging from 00 to FF, the permutations for adjustment are almost limitless.
We found values over 40/40/C0 did not provide us with any additional gain. Properly set, the ability of the board to run low levels of VMCH may become apparent for those who run just benchmarks. We managed to 3D benchmark our board right down at 1.4VMCH at 500FSB and 4GHz with an E8500 CPU with 4GB of memory when this setting was tuned for our board and parts combination, something we have not be able to do on any other X48 board in DDR2 form.
ok so 30/30/b0 for 45nm
it would be nice to have a little help
The higher the number the higher the drive strength. I think I've already mentioned that it is best not to adjust the 6 MCH values. In my opinion they should not have been unlocked for the public. I have conveyed this to DFI and will continue to do so. Maybe with the next BIOS release these will once again be hidden.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Take a look over here: http://translate.google.de/translate...hl=de&ie=UTF-8Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Translation is very bad but I hope it's understandable.
Problem is DS/DDS levels are not completely user selectable. When changing default values of 8 to 6 they revert back to 8 automatically. After a CMOS clear running default settings changes to DS/DDS have been saved but after adjustments that's no longer the case.
This new bios is a keeper for me. Gets me my clocks with slightly lower Vcore and Vnb.
Axis
Quote:
Originally Posted by axis
Those values have been set to auto the whole time for me.
i think in found my problem :rofl: either my board crapin out soon or my cpu
i think its my cpu it dont like goin over 4.05ghz i guess 24/7@ 4.1 for a year was too much
was 1.53v too much ?
but hey i got an excuse to get the e8600:rofl:
Hey, a little degredation never hurt anyone, :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Axis
I have tested the official 07/14 beta BIOS on both the DDR2 and DDR3 UT X48 boards. DLL Mode models and DS/DDS stay at whatever set to.Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin76
On LT X38 BIOS skew models can be changed and seem to work properly, the only problem is DS/DDS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Do you know what each model does? If yes, is it like this?
Model 1: +100ps
Model 2: +200ps
Model 3: +300ps
...
Do the bios for UT work on the LT? (DFIX48T2R, of course)
Are there any difference in temp readings in the new bios compare with 3/20/2008?
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by gersson
i tried it on my x38 lol
actually i tried every bios:rofl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Any advantage to using the UT bios on the LT?
i'm thinking NONE...since the difference between the UT & LT are just the heatpipes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfToasty
no they all the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by KingOfToasty
but the ut bios gave more precise voltage than the x38 bios
i got a taiwan board n that china board nb voltage fix :rofl:
@ Praz
I've flashed UT X48 BIOS as it has fixed Vnb table and skews are working properly for me. Changes to them are saved in BIOS and I can see differences in Memtest. Sometimes, when selecting a wrong model, the board does not post. Problem is still that DS/DDS values are not saved. I hope this changes with the next BIOS.
Apart from the different boot logo I could not find any difference, performance is the same, same settings work on both versions etc.. So I'm back to LT X38 BIOS.
// Edit
Found the bug: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1847
Setting the improper DDL Mode can definitely result in a no-boot condition. Each mode changes timing tables, skews and waveform shaping for particular memory ICs and capacitive and resistive loading of the PCB.
Not sure why you guys are having problems with DS/DDS latching the values entered. Works fine on the boards I've tested so far.
I've found a good use for these additional settings. Most of you guys will remember starting with the P35 on, it was a struggle to get Cell Shock PC2 8000 to run on these boards. Regardless of timings or voltage 1050-1080 was about max. With these settings unlocked I've got them running at 1200/5-5-5-15, 2.066 volts measured on the UT X48. Will get some screenshots posted up in the next day or so.
This type of must have happened to me with OCZ DDR2 Reapers on my DFI UT p35 couldnt get it to boot, bluescreened trying to get into windows, then if i did it was unstable completely. Voltage didnt help either....or was it just the sticks that were crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
One of the sticks may have been faulty. OCZ ram never had a problem with the P35. I ran plenty on that board.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoObs
Thanks for info. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
can confirm no probs setting DS/DDS values on 714 beta bios with DFI UT X48-T3RS :)
I can only set them after a CMOS clear running default settings. After setting RAM timings, disabling onboard devices etc. DS/DDS stay at 8/8. Directly after a CMOS clear it's 6/8. But I currently don't know what causes this.
Glad you have no issues. People would begin to think I'm making this stuff up or using a different BIOS. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I have the exact same issue. Using a lt-x38 as well. So this seems to be a problem specific to the lt-x38 (since all models of x48s seem to be able to keep ds/dds values)Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin76
Do you know which settings should i take for my 4096MB OCZ ReaperX with the LT x38? With a previeous Bios version i got 1115MHz primestable with performance level 6. My q6600 runs with 445x9. I took the 266/667 divider.
I found it. The issue occurs when changing SATA mode from IDE to AHCI. When SATA mode is set to IDE, changes to DS/DDS are saved.
Praz, can you check?
Hey Praz do you think these new features will find themselves onto the P35 BIOS or do you think the P35's ship has sailed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
CN :)
Just my own personal thoughts. I doubt these setting will be incorporated into the P35 BIOS. With the exception of the Cell Shock the P35 runs pretty much anything a person throws at it. On the X38/X48 boards this was done more out of necessity then anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Praz, I am thinking of getting the UT X48 T3R board and going with DDR3 memory ... for my QX9770 ... I am hoping that you can recommend a brand of DDR3 memory that you have tried ... in addition, will the DDR3 memory be capable of running in the new Nehalem/X58 boards that DFI will be putting out?
I know that's a long shot of a question to answer, but thought I'd ask ... :shrug:
The board is still a couple of BIOS releases away for all but the most extreme and patient tweakers. The memory should work but the first Nehalem boards will most likely be tri-channel and might be difficult matching up one more stick to existing, older memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKHandyman
As I suspected regarding the Nehalem Tri memory controller ... I am sure that OCZ is working on a tri channel memory kit for the new platform. As far as the dual-channel DDR3 for the UT X48 T3R board is concerned, what speed would you suggest? :confused:
Well I've finally gotten around to installing SANDRA on my computer to see how she runs.
Well first thing I noticed if I go to Computer Overview, the computer shuts down hard. Yikes.
Also, when I run the CPU arithmatic test, the system locks up but after about 5 minutes I do get a result.
I am running completely stock everything, no bios tweaks. Vista Ultimate 64 with latest updates, drivers and patches. Any ideas?
Ok. So my E8400 is stable at 4000 Mhz on 1.26 Vcore. I'm having trouble going over 4000 though. The problem is that I can't seem to stabilize a 4200 Mhz overclock on any voltage up to and including 1.31 Vcore. The other issue I'm having is that no matter what setting I change in the bios, whether it be the VID or the VID special add, the voltage won't go above 1.31 until I hit a spot at around 1.34 Vcore. WHen I got it to finally boot at 1.34 and tried to run stress tests, I got BSOD within a few minutes. Any suggestions?
Here are the settings I was usiing for 4200 Mhz
Vcore - 1.34 - (CPU VID @ 1.2375 + VID Special add @ about 108.2%)
CPU VTT 1.2
NB volts - 1.405
SB Volts - 1.65
VDIMM 2.1
Ram timings - 5-5-5-18
ya the ut p35 is almost perfectQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Hi Guys, just finished my first build and everything running great, taking babysteps on the overclocking and doing alot of reading, knowledge is King.
Only issue I have is the computer tries to enter standby(seems like everything is shutting down S3 state but then resumes to desktop)then get a CF post code reading after the attempted standby. Tried loosening the ram to 5 5 5 15 still nothing 1:1 ratio so I went back to 4 4 4 12 at 1:1. Tried raising the tRFC to 52 from 36 still nothing....any ideas, maybe you've had this issue PRAZ.
Maybe the board doesn't like my 667mhz ram?
Hello,
Wonder if I will be able to use Thermalright SI-128 SE for LT version of this board?
If so, which orientation?
I read through almost the entire thread and most people here that are using air cooled seem to be using TRUE.
TRUE is also a good air cooler, but I wanted to give SI-128 SE a try. I like the fact that it helps cool other components as well.
Thank you.
i got my cpu stable @ 8x500 :D again never thought i go past 4.0 stable lol after all the abuse she took:ROTF:
had to bump vtt 0.03v+ had to set gtls to 145 135 115
hope it dont die untill i get me an e8600:rofl:
i have fsb at 438 with cpu vtt 1.3 and gtl at 120 110 90 is correct?
thx
It is if it is stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
I have easily got my Q6600 running at 3304 Mhz, 8 hours prime stable with a max temp of 59'c
I am having trouble getting upto 3400, I know I can nudge up the vCore but I was wondering if there is anything else I should be looking at adjusting instead?
Also I am looking at some OCZ PC 8500 RAM and I was wondering if it is compatible with the DFI board.
yep is stable i wanted to know the values GTL were corrected for cpu vtt :confused: for 438fbs 1.3v cpu vtt is enough?
What cpu do you have ?Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
i have q6600 another strange question...
i have ocz reaper 1066 ddr2 2.1v and set him at 1098 the strange issue are with 2.0v work well without error, instead 2.1v cause error and at 2.2v more error of 2.1...why? :confused:
but a month ago worked well at 2.1
The gtl setting seem ok but don`t know about the ram how much do you have 2gb - 4gb?Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
you need to put some system info in your sig.
CPU: Q6600@3.5ghz
Divider and FSB: 5:6 438fsb
Motherboard and revision: LANPARTY LT X48-T2R last bios
Bios : 320 i have try all last beta...
Ram: OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10661G 4x1
Video card: xfx 8800ultra extreme
Power supply: Enermax infinity 720watt
Operating System: Vista x86 Sp1
CPU and System Cooling: cpu Thermalight IFX 14 nb HR-05 SLI sb NOCTUA NC-U6 gcard Thermalight HR03
Hd: RaptorX 150GB
DVD: Piooner 215D
Mouse: Logitech G7
Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse
Currently stable at 4281MHz @ 1.29v. E8500 / Q814. Pushing for more now.
Try running at a 1.1 ratio and this will drop your ram to 876 mhz but then you could tighten up the timing say from 5.5.5.15 - 4.4.4.12 and see if that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
Any idea why when I go to computer overview in SANDRA I get a hard shutdwon? It seems like it is trying to access something that the motherboard doesn't like. Help?
It has to do with the way Sandra is attempting to address the SMBus.Quote:
Originally Posted by snipper_cr
why?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
run well at 1098 the strange issue is when i put voltage at 2.1 cause error instead at 2.0v work well
is possible more voltage cause error?????
More voltage doesn't always mean better.Quote:
Originally Posted by me3850
Nice E8500 i got :shocked: Didn't think this was possible on AIR.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_4496.JPG
Awesome CPU :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
I got one just like that, runs 4.5GHz on a true at about 1.45v & dries my pants at the same time :explode2::D
Quick question...
I have a dfi lt x48, i am getting some g.skill PI ram, will the dfi board auto det the 1066mhz ram? if i get 1100mhz or 1200mhz auto det also?
The board will boot at the settings the memory manufacturer has programmed into the SPD.Quote:
Originally Posted by freaksavior
hi, can someone help me with the CPU VTT/GTL settings. In Clunk's guide (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/12436-post11.html), the lowest CPU VTT in bios is 1.1v but in my UT bios the lowest I can choose is 1.211v. also 1.211v in bios result 1.21 in windows ( read by smartguard--is it accurate?). If the smartguard reading is not accurate then I dont know the real cpu vtt, i assume I should just follow the guide then? say 1.25v in bios, and set gtl to 110 105 85? also whats the recommend setting for q6600 g0 over 450fsb? many thanks
65nm processors use a different GTLREF table. Won't be able to select less then 1.20V as that is the default for these processors.Quote:
Originally Posted by inonefly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
thanks for clearing that up. I thought the table on the clunk guide is for 65nm processors as it's calculated based on 67% of the vtt?
if the gtl table on the clunk guide is not suitable for 65nm quads, how do i calculate it myself? do i also have to know the real vtt for that?
thanks for the help Praz :)
clunks table is broken he took his words back and said that he was doing it wrong
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/12428-post6.html
thanks for the info, i didnt see that before. guess i'll leave the gtl disabled and raise the vtt see if I can go higher than 450fsb
guys i had sb pl set @ 1.89v did that degrade my cpu?
now i set it @ 1.64v and my cpu is happy again :rofl:
SB and CPU PLL tied together AFAIK, so yes high CPU PLL can degrade your cpu i think :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
tks eva2000Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
what is safe for 45nm cpu?
65nm cpus >1.7v would be dangerous for 24/7, so 45nm probably same if not less I'm guessing ? I always use default volts lowest volts for DFI and my Asus P35 boards.. maybe that's why my max FSB always low as no balls to shove more volts in ? :o LOL
i not gonna cry if i fry it i'm just waitin on new 45nm revisionQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
i almost pushed the button on a new e8500 for 195$can
last week i woulda bought it but new revision made me think twice
the bad is if i buy another cpu wife wants a new kitchen:mad: 10000$ for buyin a cpu:rofl: i need to buy it localy:ROTF: she will never know:ROTF:
I have bent a couple of CPU's using high pll, the first thing I noticed was instability at previously known good settings then the CPU could no longer hit the same high fsb followed by needing more voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I have not hurt antyting yet with to much vtt but anandtech published something saying more than 1.45 killed some quads dig about on google 4 it if you want.
CN :)
dose any1 know how to get the VTT higher then 1.6V, the x38 had a launch bios that did a higher amount is there any chance of a new bios that dose a higher VTT
For the LT what size fan do you use on the NB heatsink? I think it's 60mm but how thick?
For anyone experiencing standby issues , change the ps/2 and usb jumpers to +5vsb position from the default factory settings on the mobo, problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by thenarc
just finished a new install of Vista business x64
I am using two raptor X@raid0,1
Which is the best/more stable intel ICH9R driver to use?
(link much appreciated)
thank you
Is it something inheient with this board? I installed all the latest intel drivers which I thought included SMB drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
The makers of Sandra would have you believe so. If asked they will tell you the board needs a BIOS update. However, if that's the case it's odd that only Sandra and some versions of SpeedFan have this issue and no other programs. A while back one version of CPU-Z did the same thing under Vista64. But in a day or so Franck had that fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by snipper_cr
Now then, as the new and happy owner of this board...noticed that the optical S/PDIF jack is missing from the Bernstein audio module. there are only 2 coaxial RCA S/PDIF jacks. Now the question, how im supposed to use optical S/PDIF as there aint any jacks for it. oh yes there are the optical S/PDIF connector, but its kinda hard to put TOSLINK cable to 4 metal spikes...
yeah, i know. Should have read board specs one more time...
One of two options. Either build an interface to mate with the connector or us a toslink to coaxial adapter. A Tx or Rx module can be picked up for about $6.00. The Toshiba 173 series would be perfect. Or for $10.00 or so you could go with a optical to coaxial adapter and use the coaxial jack on the board. Probably the method I would choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobsters
what's the rationale for this bro?Quote:
Originally Posted by thenarc
Quote:
Originally Posted by karateo
any help here?
should I try the latest from station-drivers or official from intel?
I don't wanna mess my fresh install with different version of drivers
Hey, guys:
Which drivers are you using for RAID?
Floppy? Default Vista?
Then, are you installing Intel RAID utility?
My RAID0 array keeps failing. First, my computer becomes unresponsive. When I reboot, I am told my RAID array failed and signals one of the HDDs. I believe it has signaled a different drive every time (could be wrong about this).
I would REALLY REALLY REALLY like to get a fix for this because it makes RAID impossible. I also get drive corruption when installing big games like CoH:Opposing fronts.
When I switch to IDE mode, I get 0 errors...
Thanks in advance.
i used intel 8.2.0.1001 raid drivers and when i run hdtune it looked like this.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...untitled-4.jpg
Its better than the last set of intel drivers i used v7801012 and i dont use the raid utility i just install the drivers with a floppy when installing xp. Also if your getting drive corruption you could have a faulty hdd so you need to run the check disk utility in windows to see if you get any errors and if you do i could be one of your hdd`s.
so does anyone know the size fan you have to use for the nb fan? I think I'm sure it is 60mm but what thickness?
i slapped on a 90mm fan on mineQuote:
Originally Posted by silverphoenix
if you usin stock heatsink put a 120mm fan it will do a better job