btw the board has never been left on.. only for maybe 10-20 second so i could see if it was going to post..
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btw the board has never been left on.. only for maybe 10-20 second so i could see if it was going to post..
Cool to the touch processor is an indication of the PWM circuit not being turned on. Constant 15 volts could have definately took out the board. If a new PSU wil solve the issue or not doesn't really matter. You will have to replace the PSU before using it on any other board.
you think?? i dont see any signs of anything burned up or anything like that. nothing smells, but i know it could still be damaged. will dfi rma this if i need to it was bought from newegg.. or am i stuck because it was the psu??
I would RMA both the PSU and the board.
does the board have over voltage protection???
man this sucks so bad i NEED this system for work. should i run to the local staples and grab a psu to test first i can always return it to them if i know its both the board and the psu.. i just hope someone will cover the mobo.. if thats no good.. but you think it took out the pwm circuit? or is there a chance its still okay?? or that will give me time to get a new psu if i know the board is okay ill use the staples one in the meantime..
is there anything else that would cause the chip to run cool or not come on?? im just wondering if there is anything else i can check (i know i have to send back the psu) but i want to this time make sure nothing else will hold me up AGAIN..?
hmmm i went out and grabbed a antec unit from staples to test out.. when the psu is plugged into this mobo i get the same result of the high readings?? so is the mobo causing the issues??? it would seems so. the antec isnt as high as the corsair one but its over 14v on the 12v rail
zfactor take the battery out or reset cmos with the jumper
i get 88 code stuk every time i get a bad overclock
boot 1 time with another card
i did that.. both things. i left the battery out for a while even after trying for only a few seconds. cleared the cmos jumper many times. what do you mean boot with a different card?? you mean gpu or cpu ive tried both things.. nothing helps... the mobo just sits there with 88 on and fans spinning. i also tried different ram, 3 cpu's and 2 gpu's while booting.. i played with this thing all day and got pretty frustrated i couldnt get it to do anything
still doesnt explain why im seeing 15+v with a dmm with the mobo hooked up??
yep.. im sending it back to corsair this week.. sucks..
you need to discharge all current from the board n try a good psu
next step is rma
Did you have the LT or the UT ver? Just curious because I am deciding if upgrading to the UT version will have any performance enhancement. I know that my LT version was made in China. I was wondering if the boards that MoboPro have are from Taiwan ... or China. I got my LT X48 when they first came out and I am not really liking the limitations my LT (China) X48 board is having. Anyone have a Taiwanese UT X48 board?
mobo was sent off to dfi today... using my maximus atm. how is their rma system?
I just noticed that when I set my CPU voltage in the bios, it shows up a little higher in Windows.
For example:
CPU: 1.4875V
OS: ~1.54V (OCCT, Smart Guardian, CPU-Z all report the same)
I'm familiar with vdroop but on my Asus board it would drop a few voltage (not up). :confused:
hi, can anyone help me improving the memory copy performance? I have been playing with my UT X48 for a week and this is the best i can get, I dont know why theres such a difference between the read and copy performance. but if I use 1:1 divider, 450 fsb and 4-4-4-12 timing the read/copy are about the same. im using 4x1gb ballistix
here's my settings:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9606/69919117yh0.jpgCode:DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Curren
- DIMM 1 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): auto
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): Auto -
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
Well, about 3 months ago DFI released the UT X48-T2R. The only beta BIOS 06/02 looks realy promisingly and I hope that DFI will release the final BIOS with the new micro code for 45nm CPUs soon. The last thing that will complete my new rig is this BIOS. I want to wait for it because I want to use this rig as my new 24/7 gaming system. Sure, the initial BIOS isnīt bad but why would DFI need so much time for this BIOS when it wouldnīt kick ass. So if there are some news or infos about the new BIOS please be sure to let me know ;)
Just bought the LT board as suggest by others in this forum. Planning to watercool the NB so the UT version would not work well for me...
Anyways, I got the board from motherboard pros. It is made in china :( I also purchased 8GB G.skill PC2 1100. Is there any hope at hitting 500 FSB? Will this memory even work with the motherboard?
all of the x48 are made in china, and what cpu are u getting, a 45nm quad would be hard to get 500mhz but most other chips should do it, especially the dual cores
also there is no need for 1100mhz ram if your going for 500mhz fsb with power chips then u wont need over 1066
I had a weird problem install Vista on a RAID 0 array.
I built the array in the Intel BIOS no problem. Well I started the Vista install CD. Interestingly enough, the Vista installer noticed the array right away without drivers. However, I wanted to install the drivers supplied anyways. So I put in the floppy disk, selected 64 bit drivers. However, the Vista installer said the drivers could not be loaded. Then I go back, and the harddrive is no longer available!
So I had to re-start the installer, and just used the drivers that came with vista. Is this normal? Any idea why the drivers provided didn't work?
Oveall really nice board, I like it so far! Overwhelming bios... never be able to learn it all.
well it was the mobo. whatever was wrong with it was making the psu throw out some weird numbers. i got the rma from newegg today and hooked it up and it booted on the first try. so looks like the psu is fine.. so what could have done that to the psu and make it throw out that high of voltage like that??
anyway im sure ill have some questions but at least for now vista is installed and all is running nice..
questions #1 lol... what should the jmicron controller be set to in the bios if im using it for 2 cd/dvd drives....normal ide, or ahci and ide? im using the intel ich9 for all hdd's in a full raid array and extra drives so the cd drives will run off the j micron and they seem to run fone but the system seems to hang on boot depending on the setting of the jmicron as mentioned above.
once i get all the drivers installed and everything running the way i want it ill begin to oc it
Already ordered teh 1100mhz ram (no responses after a week of waiting) Figure wince I'm using 8GB it might be easier on the Ram to buy over the top (but was not sure).
is 1.6v on the MB ok for 24/7 usage? it will be water cooled but I want to make sure its ok. I already have the Q9450.
What is Pl9=? What is D9? Is that the kind of chips in the memory? Why would power chips rated for 550 mhz not be able to make it to 550? Seems it would be more of a Motherboard or CPU limitation?
Thanks in advance, in contact with dangerden to select the NB top.
zfactor i would disable the j micron and just use the intel raid drivers as i use that to run all my hdd`s and dvd/cd drive. I dont see any reason to use both controller`s if your using sata connections for your dvd drive.
Just got one myself and CPU temp is sky high compared to what i used to get with my P35-T2R, 20-23C idle, 44C load at 4000Mhz vs 38C idle / 55C load at stock freq :shocked::shocked:
Could it be because i can't mount the damn TRU properly because of that lame NB heatsink? I have no where to put the fan other then at the top of the case, which of course sucks no air as there are no options up there. Anyone modded their NB heatsink yet to get rid of the thermalright stuff ?
I didn't even start to OC yet but i don't think i'd get anywhere IMO with such high temps @ default frequency.
Another weird problem. When i turn the PC off the motherboard makes a discreet "whine" sound which goes on forever. I have to either turn off the PSU or start the PC to get rid of it. It's really making me drive up the walls here :mad: Used stock bios which came with mobo and latest beta from DFI.
Another thing. Any idea why my PC reboots instantly the moment i try to start Everest? I don't know if it's because of the 4870's or the mobo :(
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/673...tempap6.th.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9...loadoc0.th.jpg http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3850/zz022fd6.th.jpg
Edit: as i think about it more it could be my new Corsair 1000W doing the whining. I can't really pinpoint where the sound is coming from.
AriciU, did you install the FDD power near the x16 PCI-e slots?
i need the jmicron because i have to many devices for the intel one by itself. i have 4 dvd drives and 4 hdd's.. so in the bios what should i set the type to for the jmicron??
and why can i not see the dfi splash screen no matter what i set it to enabled or disabled?? just curious... so far its running stable as a rock as stock speeds i have not done an oc'ing yet as i was to make sure its running good first..
u should have dvd drives on teh kmicron with it on native ide
ok i just tried that and unless i set it to ahci+ide or raid+ide it will lock at the windows loading screen??
also just tried to manually set my ram timings and voltage according to corsair specs and i exit bios system shuts down and reboots and hangs with a c1 error on the display?? any ideas..running the corsair 1066 4gb kit with 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v recc by corsair?? i set to these manually and it c1's on me??
u need to have like 1.45V on the NB and 1.8x on the SB
and set the PL adn mhc delay to 8 (in the ram timings)
thanks will try that.. i see also now that my e8500 has the sensor for core 0 stuck.. arghhhh, but core 1 works fine..the nb heatsink def is getting pretty warm.. is this normal for the x48.. i mean not to hot to touch but its def pretty warm.. ive reseated it twice used mx-2 the first time and as5 the second time and pretty much the same..
any other ideas about the jmicron??
Thanks for the Everest tip :up: I managed to get it stable at 4000, 8.5 x 471, so i'm glad i can use my daily P35-T2R settings on it. I think they implemented a new temperature monitoring soft on this board. 32-42C idle seems ok when there are 27-30deg in the room... P35 always showed like 18-22C for idling.
Not gonna dremel into it anytime soon though, need my warranty :)
You mean that might be causing the whine? Only fdd power connecter i've used is the one that my Asus Xonar DX requires. Didn't know you need anything else sucking power from a FDD conn. I'll check out the manual :shrug:Quote:
AriciU, did you install the FDD power near the x16 PCI-e slots?
EDIT: i just noticed them now. Are they really needed? I don't have two of them to test if the whine is gone when they're plugged in. Other then that i have to problems in games / benches with Crossfire without them plugged.
yep when you use dual graphics cards its recc to give the 2 fdd connectors right above the cards 12v from the psu.. im not sure if it could cause any whine or not, i doubt that it would but not sure there
Does anyone know where I might find a listing of what all the error codes on the LED display mean? It would help me a lot with overclocking if I knew exactly which messages meant what.
They can be found here: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardw...herboards.html
This site explains everything regarding the x48 board. I highly recommend you check the rest out. :)
okay tried these settings and again c1 error.. no go. reset and now is fine at all auto but i cant seem to set them manually??
for the cpu jumpers on the mobo do you normally set them for auto or set them for what the fsb is of the cpu i am being told mixed on that from different people, some are telling me to leave it on auto and some say i need to set it for the actual fsb of the e8500.. which is better
also i ran orthos and i get a fail test on number 5... i have not run memtest yet.. anything else to try??
very new to dfi and the bios is def a bit overwhelming right now.. thanks for any help..
^^^ thank you for that..
any help with the c1 error i mentioned.. ?? thanks
okay for some reason i left this morning turned the system off and unplugged it from the wall.. just got home tried the 5-5-5-15-52 @ 2.1v and pl set to 8 and it boots right up with no c1 error?? what could have been causing the issue all day yesterday and this morning but not now?? doesnt make sense anyway ive ran orthos at stock speeds with above settings and now i do not see any error so far and i can get past stage 5 fine.. so hopefully whatever it was it working now.. ???????????
checked with memset just to make sure my settings stucks and they sure did... so now im back to hopefully being a happy camper lol.. this board was frustrating the crap out of me all day yesterday for some reason.. but then im new to dfi bios' on these newer boards, last ones i had were older 478 mobo's
I just did a 8 hour run of prime the 64bit exe on vista x64.
edit: I used blend.
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x..._x64_DFI_p.jpg
Nice one. I just saw these and noticed that i installed the damn HB sink the wrong way. I can't fit a fan between it and the TRU so my temps are really suffering with the fan mounted up top.
Any idea how i would remove those damn pushpins they use for the NB sink? Without taking the whole mobo out preferably...
Not safely. They spread out once pushed through the board to keep the tension tight. If you were to get them to come out without removing the board, you run the risk of tearing up the board and almost certainly destroying the pushpin. Might be a good time to replace the TIM on the PWM and SB block while you have it out. :up:
Axis
I've done it and was very surprised when i tried to mount my TRU in the way i like it. I read that it doesn't fit unless you chop off 1cm from the NB heatsink. Guess that's correct only for the TRUE with the 6 heatpipes.
Re-did the SB and PWM with AS5 instead of that stock paste they used and got a 5-7C drop under load. Made it smell nice too with some of Jean Paul's stuff. Happy camper here. :)
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3022.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3023.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3024.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3025.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3030.jpg
Idle
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_afteras5.JPG
Load
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...eras5_load.JPG
Nice results AriciU.
Does anyone have a GTLREF table for this board with 45nm quads?
does anyone know the hole spacing of the NB/SB/PWM´s ?
tia
Check this out
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3294&p=14
The TRUE is the one with 6 heatpipes. The other is just a Thermalright Ultra 120. The "E" is the extreme version.
Look at the first post of this thread. There is a link to Clunks GTL references. A necessary read for anyone with this board.
Axis
Yeah, i know about the heatpipe difference, just didn't expect my TRU to fit at all.
Any idea why there are difference's in comparing Clunk's GTL settings with those from Anandtech?
Nice results AriciU!
Just a question. What smartguardian do u use becuase my allways show atleast 10 degrees more than Realtemp etc? Have u gays change anything in config file or what?
[IMG]http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1849/nytemp38bv5.jpg[/IMG]
I'm using the one that came on the CD. Same one you're using probably. I can't compare idle temps to real temp / coretemp because my cores are "stuck" on 52/52 (real temp), 62/62 (core temp). The load temps that Smartguardian shows are on par with those of Coretemp (when i pass 63C that is), so 10C more then Real temp.
Oki, then it is ok I quess! :)
One of my sensors was also stuck at 45 degrees but now itīs ok again!
I dont manage to mount my cpu block 100 % correct so my temp is way to high. Yours are better with air! :) Have you seen if some one else have had a skew cpu socket on this board? I start to think my are.
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8250/nytemp138kz0.jpg[/IMG]
Does anyone know why there is a newer (Beta) bios version, for the DFI UT X48 version, than for the DFI LT X48 version ? Can you still use the newest version on the LT version ?
kindly
Carsten
beta bios site
i'd suggest the ut x48 bios;)
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US
I was wondering how the UT X48 T3R was at clocking e8400s and DDR3? I'll be watercooling the e8400.
Also, which DDR3 kits are clocking the best on here? Preferably 2x2gb kits.
i dont like clunks its using a really high clock, but i have found that teh lower clocks work better, i use 68% for my dial core, 69.5% for 65nm quads and 62% for 45nm quads and 61 for 45nm duals
the differences are that the gtl is the clock of how long each pwm works then shuts off, the more power draw the more clocks that u need, and u can use a few sets of clocks and clunks are really high but stable and my recommendations are in the middle ground of not being on the low end but not on the high end
like i said u can use a few bass settings its like 22% 44% or 66% or 88% (anything in 22% increments) its just finding what works (im not advising to use those unless u want to toil with them)
Damn :(
Tried to bench at 4500mhz, got into windows and then it shut off on me.
It then got into a start, reset, start, reset loop showing post code 88. I tried to clear cmos by jumper, didn't work.. Ended in same loop
I removed battery, now it starts and is stuck on a c1 error. Troed each stick of ram. Still c1 error.
Cpu voltage was 1.55v. I burned last e8500 at 1.65v. These early ones are so sensitive it's not even funny :(
Anything else i can try other then removing battery again or do u think cpu is dead?
Sorry for spelling, typing from phone :)
Yup. Second e8500 dead :( I'm afraid to oc on dfi now. Does 1.55v bios give something crazy like 1.65-1.7v or Wtf?
1.55 is death for a 45nm, u shouldent go over 1.45-1.47, and 1.4V VTT
there is no vdroop on this board so u cant use the voltages that the gigabyte users have, that voltage under load is just instant death
also to do a full reset u have to remove and reattach teh atx cables and cycle the psu power affter
i tested on an asus p5ke on 1.57v real and it had no problems for about 4 hours of benching. I didn't expect it to go this fast at 1.55v to be honest.
praz is there anywhere to learn all that stuff what each really means? id really like to know and im interested in knowing the true meaning of what things like that really are..any good links you know of to explain?
Although an older document describing Fairchild's implementation of GTL, this pretty much explains the basic concept.
GTLP: An Interface Technology for Bus and Backplane Applications
is there a hope for a new bios this year praz?
or did dfi forget the x38-48
Ask and you shall receive. Dated yesterday.
LANPARTY LT X48-T2R
LANPARTY UT X48-T2R
LANPARTY LT X38-T2R
The following applies to all three BIOS versions.
Quote:
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed system can not display with some Graphic card.
2. Optimized system O.C. function.
3. Fixed on board audio record function.
4. Fixed “Execute Disable Bit” function fail.
anybody knows the details surrounding the "Optimized system O.C. function" update?
time to go back to school lol we got new options in the new bios
dram CLK driving strength "is 1 high or 8 high"?
dram data driving strength "is 1 high or 8 high"?
ch1 dll default skew
ch2 dll default skew
fine delay step degree "need help lol"
new gtl settings to confuse me more
mch ron offset value
mch rtt offset value
mch slew offset value
mch ref 1 value
mch ref 2 value
mch ref 3 value
praz need advice to know what to set them at lol
ok, thx.. i´ve to look for a floppy :D
Dram CLK Driving Strength (DS)
Dram Data Driving Strength (DDS)
DS and DDS are the signal strength settings for the ram.
Ch1 DLL Default Skew and Ch2 DLL Default Skew are the tables for the various type of ram used. Both should almost always be set to the same model.
All four of these settings will have a large influence on stability, max FSB and board voltages. Set wrong and the board may not even boot.
The added MCH option should not be adjusted. Most users will have no clue what each does and the values input needs to be in hexadecimal form. The Fine Delay Stepping changes the value for the clock skews. The default was 70ps now it's user selectable. But this is a global setting and applies to all clock skews.
For a lot of users these additional settings requiring user input is going to be more then they want to mess with.
Thanks I just flashed it in dos... I used an old dos boot cd I had made since this board doesn't like booting off my compact flash or my usb flash drive. :shrug: anyways I noticed a 2C jump in all my temps at idle ( with my OC profile running) but that doesn't bother me. I have yet to fully test this bios though.
edit: I upgraded from the bios that came with the board that was dated 3/20.
ill have to update now.. i was just getting used to the old one.. lol. arghhh
sounds bad if i look @ clunk´s debug code explanation :shakes:
When overclocking, whenever i change DS and DDS value, they always revert back to 8 (both of them) on save and exit. Anybody else notice this?
i reverted back to older bios not stable for me @ high fsb
yeah im not sure about this one.. which one should i revert back to?? whats the best for the 45nm chips prior??
Well ive just flashed to the new bios and all my stable settings in the 320 bios would cause a c1 error when booting. Any way ive manage to get stable now but only to 3915Ghz instead of 4005Ghz but this bios did manage to drop my vtt volt from 1.21v to 1.16v. So i dont know if this bios is better or not so whats your opinion`s guys ???
Which are the most important settings for running 4 x 2GB on this board? Upped NB volts to 1.55 but it still seems to be unstable even without o/cing - with two sticks I get this Q9450 @ 3.6Ghz stable but 3.2Ghz with 8GB would serve me better. All tips welcome :)
I have to ask you gays..
If I have found a nice 500x8.5 oc and plan to change to x9 mult. Do I have to change any other voltage than vcore on this board to get a stable system?
I have decided to go with Q6600 + 4 x 2GB + liquid cooling. What kind of overclock do you guys think I can expect with this board? Any recommended settings? Would you recommend I get a different board with this setup?