@ zucker With bios 0907 i can also past 500fsb with PL=7 and memory to 5:6 need a lot nb voltage though 1.6+
@ zucker With bios 0907 i can also past 500fsb with PL=7 and memory to 5:6 need a lot nb voltage though 1.6+
Tried booting at eg 400FSB with 10 or 11 multi, instead of using SetfSB in XP I didn't get an extreme CPU to boot at 333FSB lol... mine doesn't post at all, no matter what...450FSB did but was almost impossible to get stable unless I started to pump laod of voltage in the chipsets which I didn't need to do before... Messed with it for hours also each OC I set ( with ram at 1:1) hardlocked my rig...only batteryu pop brought it back to life... reflashed it again to 1003... popped battery to make sure all was defaulted... same issue... reflashed back to 0907 all is fine... I can bench again at 4500Mhz now :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ojdr2001
I run PC8000 ram maybe I need to relax my ram and co more but that's not my thing to do as I want it run as tight as possible...
I booted at 10x400 without any problems. It's running prime small ffts for 8h now, so que multis are working ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
K I regrabbed the Bios file, this time from the first page of the thread. To my great surprise this file is named differently to the rom file I previously had...( this one is 1003.Rom while the other was maximus1003.rom) The old rom file after flash didn't allow my pc to post, so I had to pop the battery. This one did and YES EUREKA it posts straight from bios with 10 x 400... looking more into it...Quote:
Originally Posted by gandalf027
Thx guys for the comments... and old man is never too old to learn :rofl:
EDITED : Still issues getting same clocks as with 0907... there's more to this bios than the added TRFC settings... REVERTING BACK
Unfortunately the name change was just my doing, I renamed it to fit the naming convention of the other Maximus bios files. Sorry, Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
It's a shame the bios is still giving you hassle because it seems to be working really really nicely with the 65nm Quads. :(
How can i change the nozzles on my fusion block to fit a 1/2 inch hose on them?
I gave my mate the connectors and now i need them (id10t).
I was thinking i could push some 3/8 hose over the nozzles, then 1/2 inch hose ontop. and clamp it down good. would that work. Any ideas appreciated. I looked up and i cant seem to find 3/8 to 1/2'' pipe connectors.
I just got my two Maximus boards yesterday. I installed one so far and so far (knock on wood) it's been smooth sailing. I'll be installing the other tonight and then overclocking the #$%@ out of it this weekend :).
I have sifted through this thread, but I was wondering is there any "golden rule" on this board of BIOS options I should DEFINITELY turn off/turn on, or configure a certain way?
I'm coming from an eVGA 680i where my e6600 was pushing 3.4Ghz. I'm hoping to get an equal or better overclock.
Currently, at stock speeds, I'm sitting at 27C for the CPU (1.3v) and 38C for the NB (1.4v). Are those temps ok for this board (specifically the NB) or do I need to work on getting that down in order to pump the FSB?
Thanks!
P.S. - What's the best way to flash the BIOS? AsusUpdate? Or traditional floppy/CD method? I'm running Vista x64 if that matters at all...
Try to keep your NB below 47c. Anything above and you may see instability.
Same transition for me. I found my 680i was easier to OC, but if you spend a little time with the maximus you'll far exceed the 680i's performance. I found my cpu OC was less forgiving, but the .1mhz I gave up on the CPU coming from the 680i was more than made up for by the boards performance and increased memory performance. It's actually hard for me to tell right now what this boards limits are since my memory and cpu are getting maxed out before the board does.Quote:
Originally Posted by jnick
I'm running Vista x64 and I use Asus update without problems. Just do yourself a favor and start slow with this board until you're read up on its limitations and quirkiness.
Woah! Fast replies :p.
Ok, I'll keep it under 47C. If I have to, I'll pop off the cooler and reapply thermal paste or go with an aftermarket cooler. It also read that my mobo temp was 38C...That did seem a bit high, but...
Thanks for your mini review iadstudio. I'm looking forward to using this board. I won't lie, the 680i was good to me. Got me to 3.4 and was rock solid....up until one year passed. All three 680i's in the family killed the RAM exactly one year after purchase :(. Then when I got a replacement A1 board, it was completely unstable. So I threw in the towel and have gone with the Maximus. I'm hoping it was a smart move :).
So far, I've enjoyed the board. Again, I'm only at stock speeds, but it's been smooth. That makes all the difference in the world :).
I'll update the BIOS, hopefully tonight, and start slow with a conservative OC. Hopefully by Monday I'll turn that conservative clock, to extreme :p
I'm just curious, however, is there anyway to boot from a removable device? My floppy drive is USB and therefore, in order to run memtest, I need to boot from removable...or I'll have to throw memtest on a cd...
Thanks!
May I suggest you start slow with the bios update. Once you go to 09xx with Vista x64 there is no going back unless you can load a 32bit OS. I've actually been meaning to put a xp 32 dual boot on my machine just to flash the bios to an earlier version.
I actually suspect the earlier bios are better for our chips but since flashing back is such a pain I haven't been able to test.
I found bios 1003 to be dreadfull. Bios savior didn't even work right. Reverted back to 907 and all is well again. There is something just not right with 1003. I wish I knew what theybwere aiming at though. Maybe when they release it to the public it will smooth out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Pretty much the same story with my 89650, now that I see your post I see why. Niot sure why it is always when they try to improve one thing three other things get borked. :rolleyes:
Actually there is a way to downgrade your bios IF you are using Vista x64.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
I did this...
1. Reboot etc and start flashing of 09xx bios from DOS.
2. After the erase part you will see "writing flash". Now turn off your computer
3. Now the crash-free bios will kick in and you can flash to whatever bios you want using a flashdrive/thumbdrive/memorystick like Corsair Flash Voyager etc. Just name the bios you want to be flashed like "FORMULA.ROM".
You can also use the driver-cd to recover your bios back to 0401.
4. Now be happy with your downgrade :)
That's some good info right there! What bios did you guys find to be the "best" for E6600/Dual core processors? My setups are as follows:
1. E6600, Gskill 2x2GB, 8800GTX, 750W PCP&C
2. E6600, Ballistix 2x1GB, 8800GTX, 750W PCP&C
Soon both will have 4GB, but for now, I have to work with 2GB :p.
Thanks again guys!
That scares me. Sounds like a good way to "F" up your bios. I'll try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
Well all is fine as long as you don't go tight on the ram timings. If I use 400FSB I can boot with 11 and ram in sync, though once I push the ram to 1200mhz and start to tweak for a superPI run it just doesn't work like it used too... so pretty letdown for me... I'll stay with 0907 till something better pops up... and my CPU temps dropped to 10 °C at 4ghz, even more unbelievable then 20°C before lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I don't suppose you could provide a pic of where on the board the measuring point is (and any other points if you happen to know them) please? Thanks in advance :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I got my New Ballistix Tracer sticks in today
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Booting @ 13x410. No problem at all :)
I reflashed it with another rom ( one in fact from this thread instead of the one I got mailed) I could boot with any FSB now (though my WC setup won't allow me to do 13 multi lol), no issues as long as I don't go mad on the ram... 400FSB and 1200 ram was good with 0907 now I need to relax more to get it stable... back to 0907 here... Pc primes nice with 400FSB/800 ram, QX9650@4ghz with 1.26Vcore...:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ojdr2001
Somebody give this man a cookie!!! It worked! I'm kinda's surprised no-one else thought of this. Soooooo much easier than using an old version of Asus Update on 32bit OS (at least for x64 users)Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
thats a very risky method dont you think?
I would rather grab and old hdd and toss XP on it then put it away for a rainy day.
Wonder if you can use Asus Update with Windows Live?
I´ve done it 5 times 100% success. Yeah it sounds abit risky. The crash free bios is there to help you if you get a bad flash so... I Love it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I´m glad it worked out well for you too. I´m too lazy to install 32-bit OS just to downgrade bios. This "crash-bios" method is way faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
It's gonna' be a compromise between high FSB/Clock and RAM frequency for Tight timings and high MHz. To figure out your max FSB and or clock, leave all that booster and performance stuff out of it for now. THey were mostlt intended for cheap performance boost for light or non OC'd set-ups. So to add all that strob, boos and so on will only add to unstability issues and more crashes before you can ever get to find you highest OC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
So Key points for high FSB are ENABLED Static Read control, Ai Clock Twister = Disabled or Light, And Performance Booster Disabled = 0 and 1+ as needed, FSB Strap = AUTO, Added CPU PLL/FSBT to 1.7v/1.5v respectively, and For sure GTR Ref to max; 63x/67x for CPU/FSBT.
Follow the above quote and you should be good to go fo close to 500FSB with that core if you got a good batch. I got 495FSB out of a !975x P5WDG2-WS and X38 has more to offer so go figure the potential. This mobo is pick with dividers so stick with 1:1 for now untill you need more and tweak from there. Like any overclocking, stick to 2 sticks of RAM for any size, but 2x 1g is best for stability and high FSB. So many are focusing on bench scores of synthetic so they tend to crank everything up so high it is just sloppy and unstable. This mobo loves 500FSB so if you feel your CPU is up to it then again no prob.Quote:
Originally Posted by jnick
As mentioned so many times, leave the CPU FSB Strap to AUTO. Unless somebody can come up with a worthy reason of fixing it to anything spaciffic (even if it does boot, mine hardly does) with the exact same DDR frequency chioces, please add comment. Otherwise, the same choices are made available in pull down if you have set as AUTO. For me, mine on many BIOS versions would just not boot with anything other then AUTO for a native 1333FSB CPU, and even on the one BIOS it did (401) I saw no difference of performance for the same exact ratio choices.
Also, the 2nd RAM slots (White) are noted as being best for highest 2 stick OC to 1300MHz (good RAM, average= DDR1200). Pop in 2 more and back to 1st slot limitation of around 4x 1066+ but with losser timings and more volts overall.
Is this spaciffic to Vista x64 and not XP Pro x64 and Server Ent R2? Cause I can use Flash Old BIOS from Live Update v6.10.x.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
However, since my mobo is stuck from recent EZ-Flash from from 802 up to 903 again, I guess I get to try Crash Free BIOS recovery from CD.
I tried 1003 and had the same issues... would just send itself back to the bios unless it was all set to auto.
Needless to say, I reflashed to 0907.
Nuckin_Futs, I'm not sure what OSs are effected by the downgradeable bios update utility issue. However, now that I know crashfree bios actually works I'm not so concerned about it anymore. This is certainly the flash-back of choice for me.
Nuckin_Futs, can you tell us what NB voltage you have and temps please. :)
Or better yet your whole settings template.
seems 1003 does not like 45nm cpu's, those with 65nm cpus look to be doing fine...this needs to be reflected on the first page with the bios.
I will poke asus again to see whats happening and see if they can fix the multi/fsb issue
If possible ask them to have +/- 1 steps for tRFC.
Thanks for pressing the issue on this Tony. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
What are the highest voltages for benching under water? (water has about 5-6C) I have under water NB and CPU, and I would like to know max voltages for:
CPU Voltage
CPU PLL Voltage
North Bridge Voltage
FSB Termination Voltage
South Bridge Voltage
Thank you!
Anyone else here seeing this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I don't see this. My Ballistix got to DDR2-1257 in either blue or white.
I've heard others suggest this too, but I've always run in 4x1, so it's not important for me. I have gotten past 1250 with all four DIMMs.
Incidentally, does anyone have experience with manual DDR REF voltages for 4x1?
Mine don't do too well above 1000 MHz...
But they are 2x2 rather than 4x1, so it's a known issue.
I haven't. Could vary by board and RAM, because I have seen other accounts that are similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Same for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
blue or white the ram will run the same , same bench scores and will crap out at the same MHz.
I see you say you run your ram at 2.18v, is that what you set in BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
(I will be using 4 of the same memory sticks, so curious to know)
This is going to sound really newbish, but how do I figure out what the memory divider is on this board? All of my mobo's in the past have had a divider setting...however this one apparently does not.
What is the math behind figuring out the current memory divider based on FSB?
My memory is natively DDR2-1000. If I were to set my mobo to 350fsb, what divider would I be running? If someone could show me the math based on the above numbers, hopefully I'll be able to see what's going on :)
I too am curious about all this so called temp error I keep hearing of. Are those having problems, saying your CPU (as read by ASUS PC Probe II and CMOS) displays the higher of the 2 temps or that it just reads higher then any other app reads? Example, the CPU temp displayed in CMOS is only the CPU IHS top average temp, not the internal core. . v901 was supposed to correct this by displaying the combined core temps in both CMOS but PC Probe II would still display CPU IHS emp. Idealy, the internal temps are gonna' be warmer and the IHS coler, so we should be focusing on the core temps, not the heat sink or IHS for bragging, of corse it's always less.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
i had something simular. I guess I'm the only one here with the issue. I EZ-Flashed to 907, didnt like it and reverted (XP x64 live update) bk to 802, worked fine. I EZ-Flashed to 903 and now it was locked to auto, default only, I could not change so much as anything in CMOS, could only boot to XP x64 if I pressed F2 to continue. I of corse (Live update v6.10.02) bk to 802, and same thing. I'm still there. Oh well, may get time to RMA soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by bro20000
Does this apply to bad BIOS flash or general problems or all. However, in my case, all I need is the eprom so should be simple for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
I of corse lsot a lot of my files in another DATA loss due to checkdisk error gone bad so I will have to look it up since I cant get out of AUTO on this system right now. I will recover some from my notebook maybe to share, or else check my previous post wich show complete CMOS layouts with recorded temps for several OC profiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raver
Ya, these RAMs are great, I got 1266 out of mine on my old P5K (black slots - 2nd slot). It did need 2.34 as reported. We should all know by now that this mobo overvolts so can we please start listing our volts as reported, not set, or both if you will? ThankX1Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
This a norm for ASUS for the past 10yrs. However, it is rather simple compared to other mobos. No math needed, just select an FSB and choose a calculated DRAM Frequency. Leave the CPU strap to mobo out of it as all the selections are available in AUTO and much more stable anyways for climbing FAB to 500.Quote:
Originally Posted by jnick
Nuckin Futs one thing you need to remember is even though you leave the STARP on AUTO, once you select a certain MHz for the mem it will automatically kick in the appropriate starp. So without knowing you might be trying to boot at the 266 starp while using a certain FSB and selecting a certain mem speed.
It work fine for you because you are running your mem at 1:1 so the 400MHz starp is the one being selected by the mobo. But if you select a mem speed that is diffrent than your FSB speed you might not boot because that divider you selected belongs to the 266 starp.
So dont be fooled by the fact that when you set the STARP to AUTO and you see all the mem dividers show up, some of them belong to the 266 starp, some belong to the 333 starp and some to the 400 starp.
I hope what I'm saying is comprehensible :p
Ok I went into BIOS and selected an FSB of 400MHz, set the STARP to AUTO, then to 200, 266, 333 and 400.
These are the results I got in the memory DDR2 MHz speed.
Jnick I put the formulas so you can see how to figure out what STARP and divider you need to get as close to your 350FSB and 1000DDR2 mem speed, relative speed is your mem DDR2 divided by 2, so it's 500.
so for a FSB of 350MHz and you want to reach 500MHz relative for your mem, the closet would be the 400 starp and the 3:4 divider 350x4/3=466 (DDR2-933MHz)
Or you can use the 333 STARP and use the 5:8 divider but then your mem will be overclocked, 350x8/5=560 (DDR2-1120MHz)
For oveclocking you use the 333 and 400 STARPS the 266 and 200 have low FSB limits.
FSB 400
Starp Auto
DDR2 MHz
800
961
1003
1066
1203
1280
1334
1603
FSB 400
Starp 200
DDR2 MHz
1334
1600
FSB 400
Starp 266
DDR2 MHz
1003
1203
1603
FSB 400
Starp 333
DDR2 MHz
801 <-----------------> DDR2 800MHz relative speed is 400MHz so this divider is 1:1 i.e. 400x1/1=400
961 <-----------------> DDR2 961MHz relative speed is 480MHz so this divider is 5:6 i.e. 400x6/5=480
1280 <---------------> DDR2 1280MHz relative speed is 640MHz so this divider is 5:8 i.e. 400x8/5=640
FSB 400
Starp 400
DDR 2MHz
800 <-----------------> DDR2 800MHz relative speed is 400MHz so this divider is 1:1 i.e. 400x1/1=400
1066 <---------------> DDR2 1066MHz relative speed is 533MHz so this divider is 3:4 i.e. 400x4/3=533
So here you can see that when you set the STRAP to AUTO some of the resulting DDR MHz speeds are also in the other STARP selections and if you chose one of those DDR MHz speeds your BIOS wil select the corresponding STRAP.
You might end up trying to boot with a FSB of 400MHZ on the 266 STARP, it probaly wont boot.
O.K. I figured why not, I'm likely gonna' just end up RMA'n it anywayz, so might as well gave it a try. Well, it was tricky to get back up but it did after 3 trys but same thing again. I cannot set anything in CMOS without it locking up at SET RAM. If I press F2 it loads to XP x64 fine as default. Beyond that, everything is same. I started from BIOS v005, moved to v0505, v0602, and same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
Each time I flash (YES EZ-Flash) it will reboot and come up to the same CMOS eror with choice to press F1 to enter set up or F2 to load defaults and continue. If I so much as set the time and exit to save, it will never POST past DET RAM. I have to clear CMOS and reboot. Only the time is kept, everything else is stuck in default.
I will just figure this as an isolated issue since I got none, what so ever other feed back of something at least close. It happens.
To others reading, this is a great mobo even if at stock, but once OC'd, it's awsome.
@ Darkstormz, How did yours crash that led you to need to use this method? or was it trial to flashback?
testing my new cpu
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...finger/10x.jpg
notice the 10x multi:shocked:
dont think this chip will do well, it was an early batch
Looks like your chip isn't satisfied with the 9x multi.... it wants more... :clap:
Haven`t seen this before or it was a fake :shocked:
Hows does that work Grnfinger a Q6600 with a 10X multi ? a wrongly named Q6700 ? performance though doesn't seem so impressive 1.4 volts for only 3.4ghz... bummer...
Woah... did you just set a 10x multi in the bios? thats wierd
It's an ES chip, they're unlocked...
looks like it will hit a wall at 3.8 needing 1.565 (bios) I was hoping to get a 4.0GHz at decent volts but oh well.
ok, that explains it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Edit: Now I see it in the cpuz-picture :doh:
What makes you guys so surprised about the Q6600 above?
It's an early ES, B0 stepping. Many but not all ES's are unlocked hence the 10x multiplier.
1h too late? :D
Yep didn't see the ES neither...
Other question : anyone worried about the CPU PLL overvolting with 0.1 ? Especially with 45nm CPU's ?
A little, but knowing that it is there (the overvolt) it's easy to compensate for it by setting a lower voltage than required in the bios and having the overvolt bump it up to what you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Hey kup how did your blitz goes?
its not a bad chip its just not playing well above 3.8GHz.
my wolfdale tho will make up for its poor performance.
I new I was taking a shot as it was a early chip.
Guess my son is going to get an upgrade this week
CPU PLL is at lowest 1.5 set ( not on AUTO) yet it overvolts on many boards to 1.60-1.61...while that's not required for my Qx9650 to be clocked at 400FSB...Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Didn't really try it yet. Got an E6600 in it atm, Folding away, so it's kind of getting tested. Seems to be much more stable than the Maximus though... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
One of the reasons I ordered a Foxconn MARS to test, Maximus is so hard to get rocking with high FSB and ram speeds, that TB stuff drives me bonkers... Hope to have it end of next week... Where did you find a BLitZ Kup ? I have been looking all over for one, didn't find one webbie with one...Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I actually found it on here, of all places. A fellow XS member in the UK was upgrading and mentioned so in a post, so I PM'd them and it was done, the Blitz was mine! I searched for so so so so so long to find one! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
First Q6600 ES chip with an actual unlocked multi I've seen so far. I'll set 12 multi and work from there. It should allow you to run low PLs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hey guys vista ultimate updated to service pack 1 everything been running fine but i noticed when i restart or bootup its not showing any details about hard drives cpu speed and other details like it normally would as its booting up and making checks.
Anyway to re-enable this as it lets me see it detected hard drives and correct cpu speed etc i know i can just press tab to show it but it use to just show it automatically without me needing to press tab guess i could live with it but just when something changes gets me worried etc.
I have been running the offical SP1 for a few weeks now and I have never had any issue with it so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krav
Thanks for the tip, I will test that out tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I just flashed my Maximus back to bios 0505 because looking at all my notes, it gave the best overclocks/performance for me. Also, from then on as I upgraded the bios to different versions, that is when my overclocks started slipping and becoming unstable. I figured it can't hurt to go back to basics and start again, eh?
First kent/conroe i see with "unlocked" multi including all ES. Very nice :up: Can it do over x10?Quote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
Damn, I don't know wtf is going on but 3 days ago,
I've lowered by ram voltages from 2.14v (2.22v actual) to 2.04v (2.1v actual). It ran memtest86+ for 10 hours and I was able to prime with memtest for another 10 hours+. The system was stable up till this afternoon where it crashed. Doing another memtest, I find errors on pass 2 so now I'm back at 2.2v again..
Now I am very confused.
425fsb, 400strap, 1:1 strong, booster enbl 2 gives perf level 7
425fsb, 333strap, 1:1 strong, booster auto gives perf level 7
425fsb auto 1:1 auto booster auto gives perf level 11!!!!!!
WOW. I like auto.
that's what i did with 802... i think 6xx worked pretty well for me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
havent yet tried anything above 10x.Quote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
Later tonight I will play around more when I have some free time
anything above 380x10 was a no post, but I didnt want to take my volts any higher than 1.565
You're kidding right?Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
no. here is a screen at 475 testing now all auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468yqLKAE
is it a bug? I get 11 from 400 fsb up.
edit . looking at the screen shot my nb is running 4-6C hotter than normal also.
OCCT just crashed at 40min 475fsb perf 11 on settings that are stable for 12 hours with booster at 2 and strong giving perf 8 at 475fsb. Higher nb temps and crash tells me its working harder, also got 100 more points in 3dmark06 so small gain.
can others try all auto and see if its a bug or real, thanks.
Performance level higher is worse!
The ideal is level 7 or even 6 if possible.
Thanks, I thought higher was better, now will my ram clock higher?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbo
Last night I ordered my 2nd 2900xt 1Gb GDDR4, along with a Koolance VID-290 water cooling block for it. Should be in by Wednesday.
Come on Crossfire! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Will update my pic posting Thursday when I assemble.
Thanks for the breakdown man! I think I actually understand the math. I still have no idea what the STRAP is, but other than that...I think I follow :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raver
I have two machines with identical configs, both now using this board. I got around to tweaking one of them last night/today and so far I have my e6600 @ 3.15Ghz. Config below...
Extreme Tweaker - BIOS Ver. 0907
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 350
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-933
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.37
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 9.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
My load temps are 57C on the cpu and the NB is right on 47-48C. Right now, she's rock stable. I've tested 30mins of OCCT, 3DMark06, 2hrs of BF2, and watching a DVD via media center.
However, it will not complete anything over 16k in SuperPI. The minute I hit the last "OK" before the test starts, vista spits out "SuperPI has stopped working properly," and the program crashes. I'm using Vista x64 with the XS SuperPi.
Any suggestions!? I do plan on pushing the chip more as I know it can do at least 3.4Ghz. On my 680i, it was sitting at 3.4Ghz @ around 55C...
Oh also...has anyone noticed that this board spins down any extra storage hard drives? It's REALLY annoying as when you want to access files, it takes 1 minute just to show the directory of the hard drive. Not to mention, the loud clicking noise it makes when it powers down the drive...well, let's just say that it can be scary when you're tweaking the system (read: overclocking/staiblity testing!) and you hear it :p. I thought I killed something a few times already, LOL
So, after i couldn't wait after RMAing my X38 DQ6 i bought Maximus Formula and i noticed 2 things, it needs more v on core to run without BSOD's in max load so now i'm testing 1.215 V but it apparetly has a nice vdrop because it's 1.192 irl, the great thing on this board i completley Thermalright passive overcooled it, they're everywhere and the temps are great , CPU in OS 27, max load i didn't saw more than 40 after 2 hours of Orthos, Mosfets wen't down from 48 to 41, NB is now around 41 too, the only thing that's strange is SB , its over 47 but im too lazy to reseat the heatsink.
Oh btw. why from time to time it refuses to boot and after classical on/off procedure it says OC failed, it apparently doesn't like me
You will need more Vcore then mate or up the NB voltage ( as you are working with 4 dimms ) did you enable load line calibration or not ? and be carefull as the CPU PLL overvolts and so does the ram voltage ( so don't fry ya rams plz ) Also update to Bios 0907 plz
CPU PLL DOES NOT OVERVOLT. Yes, i know lowest selectable is 1.2v...but that give 1.1XX(closer to 1.1 most often, varies a tiny bit) with 45nm chips, confirmed with DMM, bios reading is very close to actual(everest reports same volts too). Pop in a 65nm chip, same bios setting cpu pll is 1.216(again, varies, but can be confirmed in bios).
using 45mm qx processor and so far no problem with bios 1003.
Have you tryed changing the multi has soon has i do that it doesnt post! Maybe the bios works better for the QX9770!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomica
CPU PLL lowest value is 1.5 and it sets it on my board at 1.61, I think you mean FSB termination voltage which undervolts with 0.1... on my P5K I can run the Qx6950 at 1.5 CPU PLL, Maximus lowest value is 1.61 in reality... I hope the Foxconn MARS gives me better control of voltages and ram settings...Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Soz for the double post, pc at work doesn't allow the multi quote....Quote:
Originally Posted by bro20000
Seems some peeps have had great succes with 1003, I reflashed it twice, 2nd rom was better ( first one I got of a german hardware site ) though once I started to tweak ram settings I had no posts and the bios didn't recover after a forced shutdown nor unplugging the power cable... only a pop of the CMOS battery brought the mobo back to life... I went back to 0907 and await a bios that gives me better control of the ram dividers and co... damn P35 is so easy to setup, X38 in comparison is a mess... :ROTF:
OOPS! you are VERY correct! I have mistaken FSB for PLL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
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Glad to know I'm not the only one... :confused: :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
Isn't it just!!! My Blitz Formula just won't budge, I can't make it crash for love nor money, but the Maximus Formula I just have to look at it funny and a month long 24/7 Folding stable overclock will suddenly become crap! :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
And on a side note, with bios 1003 I couldn't even get stock clocks/volts to be stable after it went flaky (after being rock solid stable). But flashed back to 0505 and I'm stable with stock clocks and an overclock with less than stock volts, better FSB and better performance per MHz (FSB and CPU from what I can tell)!!! :eek: :cool: :up:
Don't say that plz, you know I cancelled the BLitz formula order for the Maximus SE ( just for the fuzion block ) my worst decision in 2007 !!! :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Got a Maximus Formula and E8400 running 4050 Mhz (9 x 450). My NB temps reach like 61C on full load of ORTHOS. Is this too hot? It was like 13 hours ORTHOS stable at that point. It is pretty hot to the touch, just wondering if it's unsafe.
^^Throw a 40mm fan on there.
I surely did have an easier time w/ the DFI and Abit P35's, but now that the Max's dialed in, it's all good. Then again, I'm on an E6400 still. :D
hi guys, just 2 question:
does shyte infinity fir perfectly on maximus formula?
are thre any problem with 4+1gb Vdata 800mhz ?
i have to buy the Mb, thank's :)
Worth upgrading the bios from 802?
Right now im running at 4.23 with 4 pc2-9200 modules 1.40v vcore, 1.53v nb with no problems using the anandtech template. Need a little better NB cooling as its running around 50 degrees with a tiny 40mm fan on it.
Just bought this board cheap from a guy here in sweden. I will use a E8500 and 2gig Ballistix memorys. What bios should i go for ?? Hope this Asus board gives me better performance than my Abit IX38 board.
If she is runnng smooth I would recommend leaving it alone...the old rule goes here...if it anit broke dont fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic
I would recommend bios 907, I'm curently running it on my E8400 and have NO issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
yeah, if i remember correctly, you don't want your NB temps going over 47*C or it will start reading something incorrectly. did you check task manager and see if you were actually running at 100% while testing?Quote:
Originally Posted by MugenNugen
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3149
i'd stick with that bios, it's the one that i'm currently using. which cpu are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic
imo, 6XX (can't remember exactly which one) or 802.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
Q6600 G0..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
Hey all,
Can anyone tell me what the most stable bios version for the maximus formula is? I just got my new rig togeather this weekend, and am having alot of stability issues, even at default settings. My current bios is the one it was shipped with, which I believe is vs. 0261 at least that is what it says at bottom of bios screen, if I run PC wizard 08 it says bios is vs. 0606???
Thanks, Rick
I'm working with 0907, it still has it's issues but pretty stable for me...
602 and 802 are not very good choices for 45nm.
I have tested all the bios on an E8400 and so far I can say 907 is the best choice for 84/8500
Odd, I always found best OC stability with 2 sticks v/s 4 if for the same RAM amount. Although if needing 4G total, then you'd be better with 3 only cause of the timing options for 2g single modules. But if 2 g total, then 2x1 is far more stable and less load on MCH and chipset then 4x512 even if timings were the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
I totally understand the choices. However, for my CPU/mobo/RAM combo, I cannot boot with hardly any choices in manual strap and RAM frequency I pick, even the speed I know is works in AUTO. ie. 480x8 with DDR1152. If I so much as try to strap manual and select the only available 1152 option, it locks up. This has happen since v802 and got worse in the 9xx versions. v0602 let me fix as I keep saying, but it didn't really show any difference. Ie; I fixed 333 strap and frequency of 1000 for my 500x8 and it was cool either way, but not the case as soon as I moved to 802 up, and 907 was the worse yet as ACPI suspend function failed almost every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raver
I moved back to my old Abit till I RMA it for the isolated BIOS failure and it favors the 266 strap to 400~450FSB, but likes 333 for 475FSB. When you speak of it may not boot if I select a certain RAM spd with strap in AUTO, well thats no big deal, cause it for sure wont boot in fix of 266 or 333 to get the same RAM spd. Are you saying your mobo will boot in certain selections when fixed that it wont in AUTO (given exact FSB and RAM spd)?
I still run E6750 with PC2-8500 in sig, and BIOS v0802 (last, when working EZ-Flashing to 903 again), so maybe it is the combo involved.
As you can see from my experience, v0602 would be best but as you have a 45nm, then best I would say is v0903 for the reasons I mentioned of why v0907 was bad for my use/needs. Cause if it did indeed do anything for RAM latanciys, it was so not worth it for what it took in ACPI suspand functions. It would not even enter S4 or S3 in mild or stock FSB and 1:1 settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic
not to mentioned the weird drop out of USB mouse detection, requiring me to occassionally unplug and plug in mouse to get it back. Or some SATA HDDs would not enter suspend (time out) mode even when set as they were previously. Oddly enough, for me, temps were the only thing normal but again, not worth it.
Just curious to know; Why would you care about suspend modes on a stationary PC?
I always turn all that powersaving nonsense off.