Where is DosDuoNo with the big 1 day left sign, I was looking forward to it.
Nvidia made way too much of a big deal to NOT have this card ready and out tomorrow (Friday)
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Where is DosDuoNo with the big 1 day left sign, I was looking forward to it.
Nvidia made way too much of a big deal to NOT have this card ready and out tomorrow (Friday)
GTX 470 gets listed.
Bazoom!!
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2135/gtx470.jpg
:eek:
:eek: is an understatementQuote:
Originally Posted by Funky
any price yet on the gtx480
XFX GTX480 specifications Core frequency 625 (MHz)
Unless this is a typo we might see two versions of GTX480, with Core frequencies 625 and 700 MHz
What?! The pny card I pre ordered better not be this 625mhz garbage! Also $450 for the 470? Sounds very unbelievable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
Maybe 625MHz is ROP/L2 clock.
XFX GTX470 specifications
No price yet though
less then 12 hours left
Huh, why 12 hours? Isn't release the 26th?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
and those lucky aussies will get to be on the 26th before north america right???Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
we might be lucky i guess
:ROTF: You wish. Somebody stated the exact release time, I think it was:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
March 26th
PST : 11AM
Why would there be two different clocked versions for the GTX 480? Maybe review samples will be different than retail boxes? I sure hope not.
I wonder how many people would be pissed enough to no longer order a Fermi card if they did a stunt like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxAvenger
All of them? :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
Seriously though, the last thing we all need is cherry picked cards for reviewers. I doubt Nvidia is going to do this, would be PR suicide. I just can't believe that the NDA lifts in a few hours and we are still not sure of the final specs.
XFX GTX480
Graphics Properties: Desktop-class
Display Chip Type: GeForce GTX 480
Display chip series: Nvidia GeForce GTX 480
Memory capacity (MB): 1536
Memory Interface (bit): 384
Core frequency (MHz): 625
Graphics core code: GF100
Chip making process: 40 nm
Interface type PCI-E
Memory Type: GDDR5
Stream processing units: 480
Memory Package: FBGA
RAMDAC: 400MHz
XFX GTX480 function parameters
Support the maximum resolution: 2560x1600
Full support of DirectX: DirectX 11
DVI: Dual 24-pin DVI-I interface,
Video support: mini HDMI
Heat dissipation: Fan + heat sink
3D API: DirectX 11
XFX GTX470
Graphics Properties: Desktop-class
Display Chip Type: GeForce GTX 470
Display chip series: Nvidia GeForce GTX 470
Memory capacity (MB): 1280
Memory Interface (bit): 320
Core frequency (MHz): 607
Graphics core code: GF100
Chip making process: 40 nm
Interface type PCI-E
Memory Type: GDDR5
Stream processing units: 448
Memory Package: FBGA
RAMDAC: 400MHz
XFX GTX470 function parameters
Support the maximum resolution: 2560x1600
Full support of DirectX: DirectX 11
DVI: Dual 24-pin DVI-I interface,
Video support: mini HDMI
Heat dissipation: Fan + heat sink
3D API: DirectX 11
It seems 625MHz for GTX480, is a typo. It should be 700 MHz Graphics Clock
I'm fairly certain that it will follow the previous PDT-based release dates, so Australia probably won't see it until their 27th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
i dont think power consumption matters... nobody really cares...
what people care about is noise, heat and if they have to upgrade their psu...
if the card runs relatively quiet and not too hot and they dont need top u[pgrade their psu, i dont think anybody will care...
its hard to tell if those 50W extra fermi pulls vs rv870 is going to push most people to upgrade their psu... if anybody reallty cares, check the steam hw survey and check what psus are common and what cpus and gpus are common to get an idea of how much power headroom most highend systems have... i think the 50W extra wont be a problem psu wise...
about the different 480 specs, i think the 625mhz 480s are the 250W tdp cards and the 700mhz are probably oced editions with close to 300W... there is no mention of a 480 ultra with 512cores so far, or did i miss it? i cant find any mention of 512cores...
double gtx295 per4formance then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
you might argue that its gpu vs gpu, well then there should be a dual fermi card as well offering double the perf of a 295... but we all know thats not going to happen for what, 6 months? last i heard was late 2010 early 2011?
so then claiming double perf as their previous card is marketing bs...
i cant find the quote of somebody posting "so what, you claim fermi will be a 295 for the same price and same power, just with dx11, that cant be true after such a long time of waiting..." well, that IS pretty much what fermi is, isnt it? :D
im not saying its bad... like i said, except for 2560x1600 people there is no need for more powerful cards.
you call 31 and 37 average fps in a first person action shooter playable? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
oh pleeeeease.... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
It really depends on the game and also on min. fps. Crysis actually is one of the games, that is playable with 30fps and looks smooth, but it either has to be 30fps everywhere or with the occasional dips to 25fps.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Yu Wei GTX470/480 army ready
Yu Wei GTX470 Specifications:
Integrated 448 stream processing units, the default core / Shader / memory frequency 607/1215/1674MHz, memory interface 320bit, capacity 1280MB-DDR5, bandwidth of 133.9GB/s.
Yu Wei GTX480 Specifications:
Integrated 480 stream processing units, the default Core / Shader / memory frequency 700/1401/1848MHz, memory interface 384bit, capacity 1536MB-DDR5, bandwidth of 177.4GB/s.
This is 700MHz LOL.
crysis being playable with 30 av fps... yes... but come on... if you could chose between 1920x1080 50fps and 2560x1600 30fps, dont tell me you would go for the higher res with 30 fps... :P
like i said before, imo going for a 30"screen is stupid if you wanna play games, cause its way expensive and you will depend on multi gpu for the next years and its just not as nice as single gpu, even with all the advancements...
oh and the nda ends mar 26 7:01 pm est
$450 is :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek: worthyQuote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
lol delays again??? :O
I think this is old news about the cooler change. Mr CD wrote about it some time ago. Some AIBs though might need more time.
This better be joke. R600 was huge fail but at least it wasnt delayed 15 times :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
announcing an announcement that announce an announcement about another delay that is delayed by another announcement .......... please nvidia spill the secret .... make some wild lies but make ati drop their price please...........
They better not announce a delay tomorrow! :rofl:
so bios is changed too i wonder what they have done by doing that
So will the GTX480 be able to do these graphics in real time now? :clap:
Ok, maybe not. :shrug:
Changed clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
Fan profiles? Clocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
did they lower it ? if so performance probably will be different from what we have seen/told and so can be power draw whatever 1 more day left
I actually like their new heatsink, it appears to be better than 5870's one. I just hope the fan will not have to spin too fast to deal with the massive TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
hahahah... omg... this is just getting ridiculous... so what, now nvidia pushes the launch date one week ahead every week?
this reminds me of approximations in maths.
you get closer and closer but never actually reach the point, only in theory you do :lol:
It might be a bad idea to purchase something immature. e.g. Windows Vista
Shall I wait for the refresh of Fermi?
How about waiting for reviews first? :rolleyes:
New news since there was speculation about change of specs.
"The GTX 480 comes clocked at 700MHz GPU, 1848MHz memory and 1401MHz for the shaders. The memory bus is 384-bit, which should go well with 1536MB of GDDR5 memory. As we already said before, the card’s TDP stands at 250W."
More info here:
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18215/1/
And for those of you waiting for a price cut from AMD
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-H...s-138388.shtml
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In theory some people already had the GTG 480 in November 2009. Even FudNews was talking about the November availability. There was only one small problem, they had to replace the wood screws due to overheating. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Damn, the link to the Zotac GTX480 is broken, down or not working properly, anyone has another pic of it, Im starving for see it!
12 april? this is very disappointing. They ask as if we are "ready", we are ready but it seems they are not and who knows where ever they will be.
everyone is taking the fudzilla post as fact? what are their sources for this delay all other search results for this delay all point back to fudzilla... we'll all see tomorrow...
Charlie:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldon
http://www.trizzeo.com/assets/golden...lie462x600.jpg
Beats me!
Why am I not surprised?
By the time we DO actually get the FERMI cards the new refresh from ATI will be weeks away from launching LOL!!
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvi...ermi,9904.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldon
First it was delayed to the 6th, now rumor says it is delayed to the 12th.Quote:
According to Baxtor, the original retail date was supposed to be March 29 but now that's been moved to April 6.
26th march was stated to simply be when they will lift the NDA and demo the card at some event.
Im not taking it as a fact, but it isnt factual that it is being released tomorrow either.
http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/03/1...e-pushed-back/Quote:
There’s good news and bad news; the bad news is that the GTX 400 series has been pushed back to April 6th. The good news is that it’s only in reference to retail supply and not the actual NDA; so come the 26th of March we’ll all know what performance will be.
If you thought that you were going to pick one up retail that day though you where wrong, the original date for stock to be selling was the 29th but now it seems to be April 6th.
Toms Hardware there links to Shane Baxtor's blog, who is a tweaktown editor per google... this isn't any more plausible than any of the other rumors, or the "official" 26th one.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Exactly. None of the dates provided so far are reliable, so I wouldnt exactly hope for it to be released tomorrow either. But rather we might get an official release date then.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
It's paper launch as was obvious from month ago as the cards won't be in shops neither on 26th or 27th...does it matter if the cards will hit the stock 6th or 12th? They are gonna to be sold out immediatelly anyway...
Fixed! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
So hey... if the NDA is lifted on the 26th, is that going to be EST time or what? Cause technically we can get reviews today starting at 12pm EST from the other side of the world!
IF it is indeed delayed, then i feel like nvidia is manipulating the consumer. I am pretty sure they knew the proper launch date (april 12th now?), but they instead said it would be released earlier so that more people would wait for it instead of getting an ATI card for example. Even if these are just rumours (but they do end up becoming true), its better for nvidia to spread rumours than making official announcements about each fictional launch date. Even if they were honestly planning to release it earlier but failed, it doesnt make the situation any better. I really hope Fermi is a good card (or at least not a "failure") but there is no need to treat us like idiots.
PST i guess
Well.... NDA could lift today at 2pm. nVidia might be playing the released to retail card here, to separate NDA from availability. No-one is expecting good availability for weeks, so if release is postponed, the no-mans land of "available" Vs actually BEING available is shorter... which looks less bad, just a shame that most people spell F-E-R-M-I as D-E-L-A-Y no-one matter how is played or spun.
ALL SPECULATION
Sweclockers (swedish forum / news site) claims their review will be up 1 minute past midnight tonight if I recall correctly.
Thats 9h from now.
480 can't be 625mhz or anything, if it was it would be practically indistinguishable from 470.
:ROTF: :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Why 480 has 480 shaders also it has greater no of other units as well....Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Which, if everything was linear (which it isn't) would make a 7% better card than 470, which is impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
About availability. One week after launch was OK and even "standard practice" but two weeks is a lot, plus whatever changed in the BIOS and the cooler probably won't be reflected in the reviews which have already been written.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4931Quote:
Originally Posted by fellix
That cant be right, can it? Its overclocked and the score is total gash
check my sig...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arxagelos
its getting old and i had hoped to change it in a day or two, but it seems ill have to use it for a few more weeks... :rolleyes:
nvidia manipulating the consumer??? gez man! get a grip! they have done no such thing and never will! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by h0bbes
isnt that with physix?Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
hmm I get over 12500 GPU pts on an overclocked 4890 with an E8400 :/ So this means an overclocked 470 is only around 30% faster than a 4890? :/
seems pretty trash to me
Of course,over 50k cpu score cant be posssible without gpu physX...Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.Quote:
Originally Posted by K404
Wouldn't be surprise if tomorrow I see a lot of sad faces or some going emo and /wrist because of disappointing...not saying I know what results are going to be, but I don't expect a miracle either from what we seen so far.
gpu score 16645 with overclock? I think my 295 does about 18000 points default. Maybe the overclock isn't very hi in 470.
As opposed of G200 :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
But that P-score is about 33% higher than the score posted by jared a few pages ago (14992)
So funny, ATI is dominating in Vantage and Crysis, which used to run way better in nVidia hardware, while nVidia is dominating in DIRT and Battleforge, which are "ATI's" games. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by japamd
Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Musho
I doesn't? Oh, my mistake then. I always thought it did, and that that was the reason they banned Physx enabled results from the ORB.Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
Pretty sure it adds a couple thousand...Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
@Musho :
banned from orb? don't you mean banned from hwbot?
The end of the world is approaching... get ready :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Musho
You're right, previous scores are way too low to have physx enabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musho
It indeed does change a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
No physx
http://i39.tinypic.com/n2od2a.jpg
Physx On
http://i43.tinypic.com/s6lxrr.jpg
GPU score is higher on first image, but P-score is lower due to physx.
ah my bad. yes that makes sense as I've just looked at my 260 and 4890 runs on my old E8400 and the 4890 has a much higher GPU score but the 260 has a better overall P-score due to the massive cpu score :/ ghey
where do you see domination in dirt ? actually that is the game where 480 and 5870 are very close AvsP should be right and thats according to nvidias own benchQuote:
Originally Posted by Musho
You need some reading skills....:(Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
futuremark is blocking physix enabled cpu scores, i think you can upload it but it doesnt show up in the orb when you search for results, or it doesnt show up in the rankings...
lol what ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mindfury
mhm i just noticed the extra bit of text on my physx enabled result :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Either way that score posted is quite bad :sQuote:
Please note that this result does not comply with the rules defined in the Driver Approval Policy for 3DMark Vantage and will not be visible on default result search on the ORB or on the Hall of Fame. Please ensure that you are using approved display drivers and system software versions provided with 3DMark Vantage or use the "Disable PPU" option.
I'm getting 20219 without physx.
indeed i've notest the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Musho
i play better DIRT2 with GTX280 than 5970 isn't that something weird?
Vantage score doesn't represent the real game performance.
Just wait till Sony turns the emotion engine on guys, real time Toy Story graphics!!!!!
:eek: whats next 8800 being better in dirt :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
hmm my overclocked 4850 ran dirt 2 better than my gtx 280
it must be fake then, fermi is going to be twice as fast as their fastest current card... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dahmer
how much does a gtx285 score again?
hahh yeah, marketing ftw :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ
and i remember nvidias cineFX pr stuff... games will look like hollywood movies on your geforce fx! (at 0.001fps :p: )
And what about Cinema 2.0 from ATI. We are always waiting for the "real" Ruby's demo :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9...nchristian.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
So a £300 GTX 470 is on par with my crossfired 5770s for £240?
<----- Happy :)
(I could actually sell my 5770s and get one of those).
ZipZoomFly had the Asus GTX 470 listed for $450..... WOW
hmmm dont remember that one... but im sure ati did the same... im not saying its just nvidia, its pr in general... its usually the most funny when they try to convince normal non technical and uninformed customers about the features of their latest products. companies will come up with the wildest claims :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
i remember intel making a weird remark at idf about nehalem, saying it will cure cancer, reduce the costs of gas and oil and help us explore space... cause thats what scientists use cpus for... still, its a pretty far stretch to claim a small chunk of molten sand will cure cancer and reduce our gasoline bill etc :lol:
why wow? isnt it slower than a 5870 which is 399?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDiaz
i thought it was supposed to be 349?
or do you mean wow as in 100$ more than rumored?
metro 2033 benchmarks at xbitlabs... 5870 performs the same or better as a 295... weird... i thought this was an nvidia optimized game? :confused:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...3_4.html#sect1
Not a shock to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDiaz
Afterall, I was calling it (another) $600+ launch since Sept (cause of extreme costs and precendent and all).
And kindly rebuking those "its gonna launch in Nov for $299-$399" crazies.
Fermi threads have been so crazy, I don't think anything can be shocking - not even the unicorn included with every EVGA GTX480 :)
wasn't nvidia suggesting retail prices of $380 and $480?
i just realized... GTX480 with 480 shaders for $480. silliness.
Just ordered a pair of 5870 Vapor-X and I'll sit and watch to decide whether to RMA them or not :) Can't waste more ages for my new rig.
thats not silliness, this is patrick after he picked up a GTX480 for $480Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8766/sw75344032.gif
He might be pretty pissed if it doesn't come in eggshell texture with a raised font.....Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
What, $1 per shader and you still complain? :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
Imagine the price of a 5970 with 3200... And they say NVIDIA is pricey :rofl::rofl::rofl:
See what happens when you base expectations on random forum ramblings? ;) Did the developer claim it was an nvidia optimized game?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl..._guide,10.html
Somebody posted this elsewhere......
Can anybody confirm that there will be no benches released tomorrow????
Quote:
March 26
* Official GTX470/GTX480 NDA Expiration
* Launch date for North America
* Specifications are released
* Official pricing info is released
* NVIDIA Demos GTX470/GTX480
* Partners receive revised GTX470/GTX480 shipments (due to BIOS update and cooler change)
March 27
* Partners ship out cards to retailers
* Previews are released
* Launch date for Europe
March 29
* Shipping companies have partner shipments in transit
* Benchmarks officially posted
* Reviews are released
April 2
* Retailers receive shipments from partners
* Preorders are posted for online retailers
April 5
* Stock is put into inventory and paperwork is filed
April 6
* Online retailers post stock for GTX470/GTX480 cards
April 12
* GTX470/GX480 hit the selves for stores (Microcenter, etc...)
* Orders are officially online and purchasable