It sure can't hurt! Can you post you BIOS settings as well? Also, I see your MCH/DRAM Ref lower than normal...does that help? Much thanks:)
Thanks Loco23!
Important numbers I see in the datasheet for E8xxx....
From Table 3, Page 17 --- Vcc (Core voltage with respect to Vss (Ground)) 1.45v max
From Table 3, Page 17 --- Vtt (FSB Term with respect to Vss (Ground)) 1.45v max
From Table 4, Page 18 --- VID range .8500v min to 1.3625v max
From Table 4, Page 18 and Table 5, Page 20--- Core Vcc....This is the confusing part, no direct values given. Has anyone figured thise one out yet?
And then there is the max volts for the P45 Chipset to woory about !! :confused:
Did some benching on my E8500 with UD3R this afternoon. In one hour I did.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=587845
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http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8540/sp1m.png
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Am I right in assuming this with 45nm Duals....
1) Lower VID chips OC higher/better and with less volts, but put out greater heat.
2) Higher VID chips OC a little lower/not as good and with more volts, but put out less heat.
Wondering cause I am think of getting a E3110 (XEON version of E8400) and if it has a lower VID (which the XEONs usually do), then I was going to swap it for my E8500 that has a VID of 1.250. Any suggestions or experience with this. Thanks!
For me better higher VID.
Q9650 VID 1.2125 at 4.5GHz 1.45v - temp more then 80c, i can't cool it now, in summer.
Q9550 VID 1.25 at 4.37GHz 1.5625v - temp about 77-78с
I think lower vid chips do run hotter but take less vcore to reach a given speed. Im not sure they will oc higher in general. All depends how much vcore you are willing to use and what type of cooling you have.
That reads with what I've been seeing in this thread for good overclocks.
Right now I'm on air. I'd love to go water but I think my wife would drown me in it! :shakes:
I'm willing to put as much vCore as needed as long as I can keep temps in check when stressing for stability.
So, were back to the question of whether volts (and at what value) will destroy CPU! :shrug:
I think its been shown too much vcore will eventually damage/kill the CPU. But we don't know how long that will take. If you intend on keeping it for a good amount of time maybe its best to stick within the Intel specs. If not....enjoy.
Is 2-3 years a good amount of time? I figure I will upgrade again in 2-3 years.
If I was concerned about it and wanted to keep it that long I would stay under 1.3625v, but that's me.
Updated version:
EasyTune 6 B09.0421.1
I couldnīt get hold on the D9JNM, the one that I could get was D9KPT, so I bought 2 sets of 2x2.
I tried 4x2Gb 1600 @ CAS 7 @ ~1,80v but they didnīt want to play with that so I settle with CAS 8 @ 1,64v for now, not bad for some value ram though. :clap:
It passed 25 loop LinX (2:42hrs) but throw me a error after 4:42hrs with P95 custom blend so i have to tune some more. :rofl:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...RD10Turbos.jpg
I got up one notch with MCHv but it wasnīt enough she throw me an error after 8hr 56m. :D
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...tRD10Tur-1.jpg
Do you run more than one Prime at a time (I assume you do from the screenshots)? I have been testing my E8400 with just one Prime running, should I be running more?
Hi Nugzo, I finally got around to finalizing that 4500 rock solid stable setup for ya and the others.
Sorry it took me long but I wanted it to turn out perfect.
It's unbelievable but this cpu and board seams to be like wine, the older the better...
5 months ago I needed 1.39vcore for 4500 and never hit 12hrs Prime95 mark. This latest setup was able to achieve that with 1.32vcore, on same cpu and same GSkills PI that where abused a lot with high voltages for World Records achievements. Same thing with the CPU, loads of voltages, high pll (1.85pll) and it needs less volts for same setups everyday.
I'll post soon, keep following the thread. :up:
I think he is running 4 separate primes is because that way it will use more memory. If i run 1 version of prime it uses 1,5Gigs (total) of memory in blend. But if i run 4 instances testing one cpu in each instance. Each prime instance uses 1.5Gigs. Meaning Prime is now using 6Gigs of memory instead of just 1,5Gig.
Ignore what i said, Looks like i was wrong. I was also curios in why he did that. Thanks Jor3lBR for the explanation.
I finally got around to get this template for you guys, sorry the delay...
This setup came with the summer. I know I was already with 4700Mhz stable setup but this 4500Mhz/4Gb_1200DDR2 is good because of the low voltages and maybe possible on AIR with good Hs's out there. the mem's used where the well known G.Skill's PI edition (4Gb).
Volts used: 1.32vcore / 1.34vtt / 1.50pll / 2.0vdimm / 1.40mch
CPU Cooling: WC Swiftech MCR : Thermalright XWB-1 : MCP655 : NBM-MAT 120mm Fans : 15000 BTU AC in the Room
Bios: F8. (works with any BIOS actually).
This also proves that degradation on these Quads is almost a Myth, this CPU is the same I had from the start and every time I prime95 an old setup I had it just blows the barrier of low voltages all the time. I need less and less voltages to achieve same clocks. This same cpu and gskill had to endure this to be here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=227129 :ROTF:
I always try to send as many pics of the entire testing process (beginning/middle/end) because it shows the real voltage used with all the tests.
[Prime95 Blend Started: EP45-UD3P + Q9650@4500Mhz + 4Gb_DDR2@1200Mhz PL8]
Please notice the time stamps and uptime on Everest OSD Panel:
http://i43.tinypic.com/1567i3p.jpg
Prime95 12hrs:
http://i42.tinypic.com/3580too.jpg
Final test: IBT 15 passes & 3DMark:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2nkmo3l.jpg
[BIOS Settings]
Note: This was achieved using ALL the power saving options enabled.
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http://i40.tinypic.com/21dkb3m.jpg................http://i41.tinypic.com/2z4ljjt.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mhdgxw.jpg
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Some settings will be hardware specific, like CPU and MCH ref and also memory settings will vary according to what your ram is capable of.
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Impressive!
This is all starting to make me want to take mine higher...
What BIOS version are you using or recomend?
Jor3lBR...that's just awesome stuff! :clap: :up: