Modded ASUS P5Q/Pro/Deluxe/Premium BIOS

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Originally Posted by Ket

Just a boot logo. Not exactly that important and its easy enough to change the logo anyway just by using the asus mylogo app, hence why I'm not really bothered by the fact some people can't see the logo while others can.

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For some reason I cant see logos installed with the my logo thing lol.
Ah well, doesnt matter.

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Originally Posted by axy1985

For some reason I cant see logos installed with the my logo thing lol.
Ah well, doesnt matter.

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It is kind of weird that it doesn't work but, how ever I am more suprised by how many people actually use it :yepp:.

Whats more surprising is how people actually want to see a boot logo in all its low-rez fuglyness :p:

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Originally Posted by Ket

Whats more surprising is how people actually want to see a boot logo in all its low-rez fuglyness :p:

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:ROTF: My point exactly :p:.

its as ugly as an image can get, but its still more interesting than a lot of words and numbers that I already know.
Bling bling!

:eleph:

Dancing elephant? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Ket

Dancing elephant? :confused:

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Yeaa, that is what i'd like to see on my boot up

Are you constantly drunk when you use your PC or something? :p:

Got some strange thing here... When I boot up my PC for the very first time after turning it on, it reboots like 2 seconds after, then runs fine... After that if I turn it on or off or reboot, it boots up and works fine, also passes Memtest and Intel Burn Test easily. But if I turn it off for a while (so my PSU turns off entirely and stops making any noises), then boot it up again, I get the same auto reboot. What could be the issue? Not like it's making any problems, just a bit odd and annoying.
And also, any idea where I can look up DRAM 2nd and 3rd information BIOS values for Corsair DDR2 modules? Seems like my board changes them time to time (3rd info +-1 for most values) as they are set as Auto atm.

Edit: overclocked my E6400 to 3.6GHz @ 1.4v, seems to be running fine. :up: Memory 900Mhz (that's 100 more than stock) 5-4-4-12 @ 2.16v, pity I couldn't push CL4. :down:
System is very stable, just wish I could get rid of this additional reboot crap...
And using m1611 ofc. :D

Finally got mbios 1703 flashed successfully on my p5q-e (thanks Ket!). Loaded bios setup defaults and then rebooted into ezflash. Soon as the flash was done I booted back into the bios and once more loaded the setup defaults, then powered off and with the power cable removed, cleared the cmos. New bios works perfectly now. Got my new memory so still working on fine tuning everything but the bios is definitely rock solid.

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Got some strange thing here... When I boot up my PC for the very first time after turning it on, it reboots like 2 seconds after, then runs fine... After that if I turn it on or off or reboot, it boots up and works fine, also passes Memtest and Intel Burn Test easily. But if I turn it off for a while (so my PSU turns off entirely and stops making any noises), then boot it up again, I get the same auto reboot. What could be the issue? Not like it's making any problems, just a bit odd and annoying.
And also, any idea where I can look up DRAM 2nd and 3rd information BIOS values for Corsair DDR2 modules? Seems like my board changes them time to time (3rd info +-1 for most values) as they are set as Auto atm.

Edit: overclocked my E6400 to 3.6GHz @ 1.4v, seems to be running fine. :up: Memory 900Mhz (that's 100 more than stock) 5-4-4-12 @ 2.16v, pity I couldn't push CL4. :down:
System is very stable, just wish I could get rid of this additional reboot crap...
And using m1611 ofc. :D

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I usually notice that after making bios changes or when the bios recovers from failed OC settings. Odd that it just happens after your PC has been off for a while and no changes made to bios.

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Originally Posted by darklink

I usually notice that after making bios changes or when the bios recovers from failed OC settings. Odd that it just happens after your PC has been off for a while and no changes made to bios.

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Aye, exactly the same thing, just it doesn't restore any settings ofc. I'm thinking it might be PSU having issues pulling enough voltage at the start or something... Not sure.

I would also think its a sign of a dying PSU. You may also want to take everything out to make sure nothing is causing a short and all connections and jumpers are fitted ok and none are loose. Even if they all seem ok its worth giving them a wiggle in case of any dry connections :up:

Hi Ket!

I've got some problems with OC-ing RAM in P5Q. I've tried a lot of BIOS-es, a lot of setting, and its all the same with 2 different kind of kit( CSX C4 800 and Crucial ballistix 1066 C5 ). It is quite simple get a good OC till I dont bump up much the vdimm. The CSX kit goes with 1,94V 4-4-4-12 @900 but needs 2,1V for @950, and 2,16V for @970 with thistiming, and for @1000 it isnt stable with any voltage. If i set it to 2,2V or over it, it isnt stable at all, not on the same speed it is stable with lower voltage...It is the same with the crucial kit. Btw it runs at very pretty speed with 1,9V i.e @1111, but It dont even POST-s az @1200 at any voltage. I dont have any idea, what may cause these things, I formly had a P5K-E, and in that mobo it was very easy to get a stable OC over 2,2V vdimm. It has less options in the BIOS, and thus it's better for get a stable setting. There are may options in P5Q BIOS which could be explained for me, I think you should know them all very well, if you modify these BIOS-es. I mean not the overall options, which everyone knows, like vdimm, or memory timings, rahter those what are not wide known, like Mem OC charger, transaction booster/ pull in phases, dram read training, an so on... I'd thank you to post a link or something, whrere I can read of these options explained. And there is another question: are these modded BIOS-es safe? I really dont wanna flash my mobo to the heavens, but if it could solve the ram OCing problem, I'd try one of them, but I dont know which version would be the best for it.

All the more obscure options such as pull-ins and mem oc charger etc have been talked about in this thread... somewhere. :p: As for specific issues, no system is the same and the OC you can get can greatly vary. As you will read ikn this thread (and even on this page) the mBIOSes are rock solid and a lot of people have much better results with these than the vanilla BIOS, so its worth giving one a go. always start with the latest mBIOS and work your way back from there if you need to.

There will be a new set of 15xx mBIOSes available soon guys. Why 15xx versions? I noticed for the P5Q and the Pro (havent looked at other versions yet) theoretically they have the most potential for memory compatibility and OCing :up:

Using 1613m above 400FSB I am stuck using only the 333 strap. Otherwise it seems to work well. My memory doesn't like playing at 540Mhz so far. So I can't use all of my E8600 potential.

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Originally Posted by Ket

I would also think its a sign of a dying PSU. You may also want to take everything out to make sure nothing is causing a short and all connections and jumpers are fitted ok and none are loose. Even if they all seem ok its worth giving them a wiggle in case of any dry connections :up:

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Had a discussion about this issue, which I also have,at ocforums.
The other guy tried with upping vcore to 1.35 which solved the problem.
This I haven't tried myself yet (lazy) but it just might be that cpu is not getting enough juice, even if its 50X intelburntest stable (like mine).

Worth trying.

Edit: Mine is OC'd: 3600MHz 1,25V, 333strap 4-4-4-10 @800MHz, most other voltages 1 step above orig.

with mbios 1703 on my p5q-e i got up to 475mhz fsb last night. mem strap is at 333 using a mem divider of 5:6. my g.skill pi's are running flawlessly at 1141mhz with only 1.94v (5-5-5-15 2T). its been running prime95 blend test for about 14 hours without any issues.

some basic bios information for current oc:

-fsb [475]
-pcie [100]
-mem strap [333]
-mem clock skews [all auto]
-mem timings [5-5-5-15-3-50-6-3/8-3-5-4-6-4-6/14-5-1-5-5]
-dram static read [disabled]
-mem training [disabled]
-mem oc charger [enabled]
-ai clock twister [moderate]
-ai transaction booster [manual]
-performance level [8]
-cpu voltage [1.31250]
-cpu gtl 0,2/1,3 [auto]
-cpu pll voltage [auto]
-mem voltage [1.94]
-nb voltage [1.36]
-nb gtl [64.0]
-sb voltage [1.2]
-sb io voltage [1.50]
-cpu lead line [enabled]
-cpu spread spectrum [disabled]
-pcie spread spectrum [disabled]

this bios is more than great. 1406 had me stuck at around 460fsb but now i can hit 475 without a sweat. if prime is still running when i get home from work im gonna see how much higher i can go.

EDIT: dropped my cpu multi to 9 from 9.5 so its running at 4.275ghz on 475fsb

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Originally Posted by darklink

with mbios 1703 on my p5q-e i got up to 475mhz fsb last night. mem strap is at 333 using a mem divider of 5:6. my g.skill pi's are running flawlessly at 1141mhz with only 1.94v (5-5-5-15 2T). its been running prime95 blend test for about 14 hours without any issues.

some basic bios information for current oc:

-fsb [475]
-pcie [100]
-mem strap [333]
-mem clock skews [all auto]
-mem timings [5-5-5-15-3-50-6-3/8-3-5-4-6-4-6/14-5-1-5-5]
-dram static read [disabled]
-mem training [disabled]
-mem oc charger [enabled]
-ai clock twister [moderate]
-ai transaction booster [manual]
-performance level [8]
-cpu voltage [1.31250]
-cpu gtl 0,2/1,3 [auto]
-cpu pll voltage [auto]
-mem voltage [1.94]
-nb voltage [1.36]
-nb gtl [64.0]
-sb voltage [1.2]
-sb io voltage [1.50]
-cpu lead line [enabled]
-cpu spread spectrum [disabled]
-pcie spread spectrum [disabled]

this bios is more than great. 1406 had me stuck at around 460fsb but now i can hit 475 without a sweat. if prime is still running when i get home from work im gonna see how much higher i can go.

EDIT: dropped my cpu multi to 9 from 9.5 so its running at 4.275ghz on 475fsb

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Looks good :up:

...and a :up: for me for creating such monster BIOSes :D I'll be doing the revised 15xx BIOSes a little later today ;) so anyone with memory compatibility problems still should deffinately try the revised 15xx versions. Hell, I'll say their worth a go over the 16\17xx versions as well.

Ket.... was there ever a 15xx bios for the p5q-e? I remember waiting for a while after the 1406 and then the next one that appeared was 1703.

I tried yesterday night the 1611 for p5q. Its a bit better, now it dosent throw an error immediatley runing blend test, just after 4 minutes.:lol2: But its really something better with this issue, cause the ram needs a bit less voltage on the same clock, but the maximum oc stayed at the same level. Perhaps I shold mess around with the settings that I dont know. Im impatiently waiting the 15xx for P5Q!:bounce:

Some question occured in me: what do you exactly change and how you create these BIOS-es? Is there any change log? What kind of editor do you use, and how did you learned this? Is there any source on the web to aquire such knowlegde?

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Originally Posted by darklink

Ket.... was there ever a 15xx bios for the p5q-e? I remember waiting for a while after the 1406 and then the next one that appeared was 1703.

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P5Q-E never had a 15xx BIOS, went straight to 17xx.

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Originally Posted by Lil'ManComputer

I tried yesterday night the 1611 for p5q. Its a bit better, now it dosent throw an error immediatley runing blend test, just after 4 minutes.:lol2: But its really something better with this issue, cause the ram needs a bit less voltage on the same clock, but the maximum oc stayed at the same level. Perhaps I shold mess around with the settings that I dont know. Im impatiently waiting the 15xx for P5Q!:bounce:

Some question occured in me: what do you exactly change and how you create these BIOS-es? Is there any change log? What kind of editor do you use, and how did you learned this? Is there any source on the web to aquire such knowlegde?

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rebels haven is a good place to start ;)

rebels heaven? What the hell is that? I searched it in google, but I aint found anything useful:confused:

this is the rebels heaven
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-...;f=20;t=000361
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-...;f=20;t=000362

another quet. for all
there is any voltage mood for P5Q mobo.

ohh s**t I misunderstood it. And what thred to search on this forum? Is there a tutorial thread or something like that?

Can someone please help and tell me how to flash my old bios back to version 1406, i now have 1611 i i cant pass 550FSB, with 1406 600fsb easy. Dice is whaiting my here , but bios not god. I have a P5Q. THNX

this two link for the thread which ket start to mood bios
in the rest of forum you can find the tools and how to use

ise the tool in this thread to downgrad the bios version
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=186538
and then flash using EZ-Flash as you wish
or you can use this method
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1396

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Originally Posted by krompirusa

Can someone please help and tell me how to flash my old bios back to version 1406, i now have 1611 i i cant pass 550FSB, with 1406 600fsb easy. Dice is whaiting my here , but bios not god. I have a P5Q. THNX

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Select options in asus update, tick "bios downgradable" thats it.

Ket if i use bios downgradable it stil doesnt work. :confused:
With afudos i have problem too, it says problemm with bootable device ,or file dameged- And i only have 256mb USB key and no floopy:(

question about the mylogo app. I just pulled the dragon logo from a previous post by Ket and used mylogo to insert it into the m1703 bios file I have saved on my thumb drive. do I now have to reflash my bios? If so, since I am using the same bios but with a new logo, can I save an oc profile in the bios, flash with bios file saved with dragon logo and then just load settings from the oc profile?

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Originally Posted by krompirusa

Ket if i use bios downgradable it stil doesnt work. :confused:
With afudos i have problem too, it says problemm with bootable device ,or file dameged- And i only have 256mb USB key and no floopy:(

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This should sort you out. You will need to download a small app to make your USB stick bootable.

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Originally Posted by Ket

This post is specifically to help those out there who have flashed their (AMI) BIOS (any manufacturer, vanilla or modified BIOS) and are finding themselves unable to revert back to an older BIOS or update their BIOS.

How this anomaly comes about I'm not sure, but one manufacturer especially are notorious for this anomaly occurring with, ASUS. To get yourself out of this bind follow these simple steps;

1. Download the AFUDOS attachment (2.11, AFAIK this process will NOT work with newer versions)
2. Make a bootable floppy \ CD \ USB \ whatever with the BIOS you want to flash to on
3. Place the downloaded AFUDOS utility on to your chosen boot media
4. Restart
5. With (for the intentions of this example) your bootable floppy loaded and ready to go, type in the following then hit enter;

AFUDOS.EXE /iXXXXXX.ROM /PBNC /N
**XXXXXX denotes ROM filename**

Thats it! The utility will now perform a comprehensive set of checks, erasing and writing procedures. Just sit back and watch it do its thing and restart your PC when prompted.

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Originally Posted by darklink

question about the mylogo app. I just pulled the dragon logo from a previous post by Ket and used mylogo to insert it into the m1703 bios file I have saved on my thumb drive. do I now have to reflash my bios? If so, since I am using the same bios but with a new logo, can I save an oc profile in the bios, flash with bios file saved with dragon logo and then just load settings from the oc profile?

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Yep you can do that. The BIOS is the same its not like your flashing to different versions.

well.... it didnt work. I ended up creating my own boot logo from my avatar pic (full size, not the actual resized one for the avatar) and used mylogo to insert it into the bios but after I flashed and cleared CMOS it still would not display. I guess I'll just have to live with the post screen and no logo. no big deal.

Thats very weird how it wont work even that way :S have you tried using paint.net to convert the image to .gif?

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Originally Posted by krompirusa

Ket if i use bios downgradable it stil doesnt work. :confused:
With afudos i have problem too, it says problemm with bootable device ,or file dameged- And i only have 256mb USB key and no floopy:(

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download the AsusUpdt61002.zip from here and tick "bios downgradable" in options

It worked for me:yepp:

Vcore 1.275 in bios:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8...shot004eq7.jpg
With P5Q Deluxe 1702m:clap:

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Originally Posted by angelreaper

Vcore 1.275 in bios:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8...shot004eq7.jpg
With P5Q Deluxe 1702m:clap:

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nice chip man:up:

Ket, keep modifying:cool::D

I might be joining the 4GHz club soon :D pending tests but so far I'm at 3.8GHz with the new E7200 @ 1.45v (actual). I won't be pushing past 1.5v. Damn 45nm are too dainty for that :mad:

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Originally Posted by Ket

Thats very weird how it wont work even that way :S have you tried using paint.net to convert the image to .gif?

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I wasnt sure if it had to be a specific file extension like .gif or not. I guess it's worth a shot at this point. I had forgotten to save my current settings to an oc profile so after the flash I manually set everything and it did run prime95 for 7 hours without any errors. I get wary about over flashing because previously oc settings would stop working that had worked prior. That was before I started using the best bios ever..... MBIOS :)

wow Ket.... great advise on paint.net. that is a great little app. i tweaked my bios image a bit and saved to .gif format. when i get home from work i will place in the bios file with mylogo and flash to see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Lil'ManComputer

rebels heaven? What the hell is that? I searched it in google, but I aint found anything useful:confused:

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Oh, the forum that I got banned from for mentioning that my Tpower I45 could use a new bios. Yeah, real rebels over there. I think it's owned by Biostar.

Also, I just wanted to mention that Im having good luck with 1702m. Its taking less voltage for the same clocks on 1406. Ill do a bit more testing when I get my other 2x2gb kit back from an rma.

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Originally Posted by darklink

wow Ket.... great advise on paint.net. that is a great little app. i tweaked my bios image a bit and saved to .gif format. when i get home from work i will place in the bios file with mylogo and flash to see what happens.

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Being a Stalker modder as well, taking on a mammoth project like Twilight K.E.T. If theres a free app worth having, chances are I know :D

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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

Oh, the forum that I got banned from for mentioning that my Tpower I45 could use a new bios. Yeah, real rebels over there. I think it's owned by Biostar.

Also, I just wanted to mention that Im having good luck with 1702m. Its taking less voltage for the same clocks on 1406. Ill do a bit more testing when I get my other 2x2gb kit back from an rma.

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I don't think Biostar own rebels haven, and I've never known Polygon or anyone else to ban someone from there. Maybe a mod was editing your post for something and hit the wrong button without realising it? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Ket

Being a Stalker modder as well, taking on a mammoth project like Twilight K.E.T. If theres a free app worth having, chances are I know :D



I don't think Biostar own rebels haven, and I've never known Polygon or anyone else to ban someone from there. Maybe a mod was editing your post for something and hit the wrong button without realising it? :shrug:

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I dont know man, I didnt really say anything bad. Nothing that I didn't say here in the Biostar thread, at least. Thats why I love this place.

Here is a set of "new" mBIOSes. They sacrafice a little in way of CPU compatibility (not as many microcodes) but memory compatibility theoretically is through the roof. V1 versions in this pack use a memory table from a early BIOS version of the Maximus 2 Formula, where the other vesrion in the pack uses the memory table from the latest M2F BIOS, 1802.

In summary;

- Replaced memory table with M2F mem table
- Replaced CPU table with M2F CPU table

You will probably notice various other changes when experimenting - this is all down to the above mentioned changes. Naturally, feedback is essential.

DL Link

Why you didnt used 17xx BIOS-es for these new modifications ?

For memory compatibility and OCing reasons.

whats the difference in the mbios vs (no m) bios?? i have a p5q pro.. i was wondering which bios is recommended to use and whats a good version... im currently overclocked to 3.6 now and looking to get up to 4.2-4.4 im on a stock bios version now..

Using G.Skill PC8500 8gb, of the new BIOS's you have uploaded, which one contains better memory compatibility for this set of mem ?

Subjective. Theoretically V1 mBIOSes have the most memory compatibility.

Thanks - i'l try that one first - & give you feedback

hey Ket, wikid job on the bios'
could you recommend me a version, im running a Q6600 on P5Q Deluxe with Corsair PC6400 DDR2 @ 800mhz. i find that my pc become very unstable at FSB above 400 with Ram 1:1 other dividers fail quicker or wont boot. also the 400Mhz strap will not boot up the pc.

what version may be able to solve some of my problems, currently ive got 3.2Ghz 8X400Mhz ram 1:1 4-4-4-12 800mhz.

thanks

Try 1406 and go from there.

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Originally Posted by Ket

Try 1406 and go from there.

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I can´t downgrade to BIOS 1406. The new BIOS 1703 and 1703m for P5Q-E kill my overclock on E7200.:(

I try follow your steps with afudos211 but NOT work. I´m very frustrated.

AFUDOS method DOES work. Theres something your likely not doing quite right. Try the simpler approach, select "options" from the dropdown list of asus update and select "BIOS downgradable" :up:

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Originally Posted by Ket

AFUDOS method DOES work.

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Not works for me.
Type
C:\ afudos.exe /ip5q-e-~1.rom /PBNC /N
But stay in message "advance checking"........... for half hour.

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Originally Posted by Ket

Theres something your likely not doing quite right. Try the simpler approach, select "options" from the dropdown list of asus update and select "BIOS downgradable" :up:

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This method fails too....:(

http://i39.tinypic.com/291fgqg.jpg


Thanxs in advance Ket.

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Originally Posted by mojado

I can´t downgrade to BIOS 1406. The new BIOS 1703 and 1703m for P5Q-E kill my overclock on E7200.:(

I try follow your steps with afudos211 but NOT work. I´m very frustrated.

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download the AsusUpdt61002.zip from here and tick "bios downgradable" in options

It worked for me on my P5Q(from m1611 to 1406):yepp::up:

New BIOS versions in the works! These are HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL! I'm pulling some aspects of the X48 and attempting to meld them. Due to unknow behavior, to start with the only boards that will have these BIOSes are the boards with dual BIOS chips. If all goes well the other boards will follow with their own versions.

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Originally Posted by DuncanOc

download the AsusUpdt61002.zip from here and tick "bios downgradable" in options

It worked for me on my P5Q(from m1611 to 1406):yepp::up:

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Yeaaaaaa, many thanxs!!! 100% Works!:up:;)

"download the AsusUpdt61002.zip from here and tick "bios downgradable" in options"

This file doesn't seem to work on Vista64 - is there one compatible which will do the same ?

Heres the experimental BIOSes. Take heed of the warnings in my last post, though being dual BIOS boards, theres no danger. As usua, give feedback.

DL link

Great work Ket:

I am confused about the Memory "enhanced" BIOSs. Should I flash the V1 version for P5Q Deluxe or the non V1 version in the pack for enhanced memory compatibility? Please advice

Its all subjective and theoretical, the best I can advise is try both.

Having problem OC proc above 4ghz (see specs below)
It seems the memory doesn't like running at it's standard speed (1066) & even if i lower it, i always get blue screens / no boot as soon as i go over the 4ghz mark.
I'm using Ket's latest BIOS (used most previous too) but i can't seem to get stablized.
Is this because i'm using all mem slots or am i just asking for too much of an overclock - with watercooling & various vdimm, processor i think is not the problem?
Mem tested RAM - all ok

Opinions & advice welcome

Hi Ket!

I experimented with the 1611m bios for P5Q, with the memory ocing, that I formley told, I have problem with. The 4x1 GB configuration there was no way to stabilize the over 1150, only booted on 1160. I had the idea test the ram modules singly, one by one, only if they boot on a higher frequency...and if they boot!!! The worst booted on 1240 with 2,1V the best was 1280 with the same voltage. Thexy posted at even on 1340 Mhz(!!!) with 2,1V. So I decided to test them for a boot in pairs. I tested the al of the possible combinations all off the pairs, and all of the slots!!! The result was that it is not same with every slot and every ram combo. The board loses much stability in dual channel, mostly when the inner slots are taken. I mean from left to right direction the yellow and the black slot. Mostly here the pairs booted only on 1160 - 1180. The outer slotst where better in dual, I managed to boot on 1200 and it was quite stable, I could surf on web etc..but it wasnt memtest stable, even if I bumped the voltage over 2,1V. The best they ran in single channel, the highest freq here was 1260( boot but not stable ), mostly 1240. I read abuot the other stuff I dindt knew before in BIOS, and I read about this skew thing. In other P5Q series BIOS-es there is a feature in BIOS, which can tune the dram clock skew( I dont remember exactly what board ). Someone wrote, that tweaking this could be solve such problem, cause this problem is becasue the clocks of the slots are not highly precise syncronised at high frequencies, and with this option one could manually tune them together. Could be this feature implemented with a moded BIOS for P5Q? Or do you have an idea, if there 's a nother way to solve this problem with a BIOS mod, or just with setting some options to correct values with one of the current BIOS-es?

BTW I see You are a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fan as well, so do I :up: Grat for Your mod:clap:

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Originally Posted by stev1456

"download the AsusUpdt61002.zip from here and tick "bios downgradable" in options"

This file doesn't seem to work on Vista64 - is there one compatible which will do the same ?

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I would like to know that too.

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Originally Posted by stev1456

Having problem OC proc above 4ghz (see specs below)
It seems the memory doesn't like running at it's standard speed (1066) & even if i lower it, i always get blue screens / no boot as soon as i go over the 4ghz mark.
I'm using Ket's latest BIOS (used most previous too) but i can't seem to get stablized.
Is this because i'm using all mem slots or am i just asking for too much of an overclock - with watercooling & various vdimm, processor i think is not the problem?
Mem tested RAM - all ok

Opinions & advice welcome

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Raise your vcore to 1.275v an retest.

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Originally Posted by Lil'ManComputer

Hi Ket!

I experimented with the 1611m bios for P5Q, with the memory ocing, that I formley told, I have problem with. The 4x1 GB configuration there was no way to stabilize the over 1150, only booted on 1160. I had the idea test the ram modules singly, one by one, only if they boot on a higher frequency...and if they boot!!! The worst booted on 1240 with 2,1V the best was 1280 with the same voltage. Thexy posted at even on 1340 Mhz(!!!) with 2,1V. So I decided to test them for a boot in pairs. I tested the al of the possible combinations all off the pairs, and all of the slots!!! The result was that it is not same with every slot and every ram combo. The board loses much stability in dual channel, mostly when the inner slots are taken. I mean from left to right direction the yellow and the black slot. Mostly here the pairs booted only on 1160 - 1180. The outer slotst where better in dual, I managed to boot on 1200 and it was quite stable, I could surf on web etc..but it wasnt memtest stable, even if I bumped the voltage over 2,1V. The best they ran in single channel, the highest freq here was 1260( boot but not stable ), mostly 1240. I read abuot the other stuff I dindt knew before in BIOS, and I read about this skew thing. In other P5Q series BIOS-es there is a feature in BIOS, which can tune the dram clock skew( I dont remember exactly what board ). Someone wrote, that tweaking this could be solve such problem, cause this problem is becasue the clocks of the slots are not highly precise syncronised at high frequencies, and with this option one could manually tune them together. Could be this feature implemented with a moded BIOS for P5Q? Or do you have an idea, if there 's a nother way to solve this problem with a BIOS mod, or just with setting some options to correct values with one of the current BIOS-es?

BTW I see You are a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fan as well, so do I :up: Grat for Your mod:clap:

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All, and I do mean ALL OC results are subjective. No 2 systems will behave the same. Using all 4 DIMMs you are putting a lot more stress on the memory controller, which means you will need a higher voltage and looser PL setting to stabalise things.

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Originally Posted by Huttala

I would like to know that too.

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Yep,doesn't work in Vista.:(

DL and try the earliest Vista release? Makes sence for a first release it would use an old formula slightly rehashed.

Hi Ket

Tried raising the vcore to 1.275 - even went to 1.35 but still no luck - guessing the mem is still unhappy with the faster FSB's.
Any other settings (n/b s/b volts, Ai transaction Booster) that are worth changing to make mem more compatible ?

Thanks for your reply

Hi Ket!

Whats the difference between the P5Q 1501m and the P5Q 1501m v1 ?

Ket,

What's it you are adding from X48 exactly? Hope it works out ok, I'm hoping to do similar for X48 bios' to pull stuff from the RE.

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Originally Posted by stev1456

Hi Ket

Tried raising the vcore to 1.275 - even went to 1.35 but still no luck - guessing the mem is still unhappy with the faster FSB's.
Any other settings (n/b s/b volts, Ai transaction Booster) that are worth changing to make mem more compatible ?

Thanks for your reply

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Tried raising NB, SB and memory voltage? try 1.3-1.4v for NB & SB, and 2.1-2.2v for memory.

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Originally Posted by Lil'ManComputer

Hi Ket!

Whats the difference between the P5Q 1501m and the P5Q 1501m v1 ?

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Its explained a page or so back.

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Originally Posted by mikeyakame

Ket,

What's it you are adding from X48 exactly? Hope it works out ok, I'm hoping to do similar for X48 bios' to pull stuff from the RE.

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I'm taking the EBB from the RE and its P6 table. The former just to see what results people can get when OCing their memory and how pull-ins and latencies are changed, the latter just to see if it makes a difference to CPU clocks, I'm thinking not, but worth a shot.

Hi Ket

"Tried raising NB, SB and memory voltage? try 1.3-1.4v for NB & SB, and 2.1-2.2v for memory."

Didn't work. I'm lost for answers on this prob. Seems like i'm gonna have to take out 4gb of the RAM & try overclocking more again.

Thanks for your advice

Ket,

Interesting mate! EBB contains instructions for hardware init doesnt it? Routing Ports, DMA, Interrupts, etc yes?

Apparently not. If it did all sorts of things would go weird, but it all works as it should. I suspect DMA, interrupts etc are all probably contained in the single link arch bios module.

1613m for p5q pro works like a charm, I'm able to boot 4.5Ghz with my E8500 C0, I've never been able to do that before, though I didn't try to get it stable.

I'm also able to get higher stable oc than before

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Originally Posted by Ket

DL and try the earliest Vista release? Makes sence for a first release it would use an old formula slightly rehashed.

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I've tried that too, doesnt work.
And I can't get my freakin USB memory to boot right either! :mad:

Looks like I have to install XP 32-bit too solve this problem if anyone else doesnt have any other ideas. :shakes:

Anyway, just have to tell you that ur doing a great job with theese BIOS releases ket. Keep up the good work! :up:

V1 versions in this pack use a memory table from a early BIOS version of the Maximus 2 Formula, where the other vesrion in the pack uses the memory table from the latest M2F BIOS, 1802.

I see now...and which one do you recommend for overclocking 4DIMM-s?

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Originally Posted by Ket

New BIOS versions in the works! These are HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL! I'm pulling some aspects of the X48 and attempting to meld them. ... the only boards that will have these BIOSes are the boards with dual BIOS chips.

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Does that include P5Q Pro?

i dont have any trouble overclocking ram, 500 1.8v and 533 1.9v, both CL5, with Team Elite 2x2GB PC6400 CL5 sticks
but can't say the same about my cpu. could this any of this moded bios help?

i have a P5Q-E Rev A2 bios 1103, that did 500FSB flawlessly on a E6600, with all board voltages on "minimum"(aka the first manually defined after minimum)

with current E7200 i can´t boot to windows with higher fsb than 400~410, when previous owner of this cpu guaranteed me it made at least 550FSB on a P35 board

i had the same issues with all oficial bios (prior to mine) that i've tried

try my settings:

FSB: 421
Multi: 9.5
vCore: 1.41875
vFSB: 1.2
vNB: 1.2
vPLL: 1.54

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Originally Posted by Ket

Apparently not. If it did all sorts of things would go weird, but it all works as it should. I suspect DMA, interrupts etc are all probably contained in the single link arch bios module.

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I wanna try lol. You say it all works as it should as if you have tried it already. If so then is it better? I have missed out on all kinds of stuff by spending all of my time playing games. :ROTF:

hi ket

whatt the best bios for p5q-pro with 4x1gb cellshocks?

i have with the ocz the 1106 vanilla

lg echti

e8400 @ 4000mhz 500x8>1,18vcore

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

I wanna try lol. You say it all works as it should as if you have tried it already. If so then is it better? I have missed out on all kinds of stuff by spending all of my time playing games. :ROTF:

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Haven't really tested it, no time. Feel free to let us know if it works better for you though :D

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Originally Posted by echtorg

hi ket

whatt the best bios for p5q-pro with 4x1gb cellshocks?

i have with the ocz the 1106 vanilla

lg echti

e8400 @ 4000mhz 500x8>1,18vcore

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Still figuring that out myself.

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Originally Posted by Ket

Haven't really tested it, no time. Feel free to let us know if it works better for you though :D



Still figuring that out myself.

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Now this is the x48 table BIOS you are talking about right? If s where is it, I totally missed the post with it. I will try it for you.:up:

I have one question for all P5Q useres, specialy for thoose with D9GMHs.My P5Q non pro looks like she doesnt like D9GMH. I have pair of Crucial Value 667 CL5 2x1GB(D9GMH), and they cant go more then 1100 on this mobo.With SuperTalent ddr2 800( PowerChip i can hit 600FSB(1200ddr2) easy). Any experiences with P5Q non pro and overclocking GMH on it?? I tryed 4 difrent bioses, but no improvment. This GMHs are pretesred, on 630+(1260ddr2).

Any solution or tip, will be welcome.Thnx

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

Now this is the x48 table BIOS you are talking about right? If s where is it, I totally missed the post with it. I will try it for you.:up:

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Page 58, post 1448 :up:

Hi all.
I´m sitting here with my p5q-e and looking after best bios for this mainboard.
I wannt to hit 500fsb with this mainboard. i have tryed lot of bios and bios settings with out any luck.
So i hop anybody can give me some rek of good bios for p5q-e
the hardware im trying to o/c is:
P5q-e
E8200
A-data 2x2gig (Gaming serie)

So have best//kTa

This is what I am talking right here about this post. :up:

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Originally Posted by Ket

New BIOS versions in the works! These are HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL! I'm pulling some aspects of the X48 and attempting to meld them. Due to unknow behavior, to start with the only boards that will have these BIOSes are the boards with dual BIOS chips. If all goes well the other boards will follow with their own versions.

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This is after post 1448 on the next page so they can't be what you are talking about.

These ones ;)

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Originally Posted by Ket

Here is a set of "new" mBIOSes. They sacrafice a little in way of CPU compatibility (not as many microcodes) but memory compatibility theoretically is through the roof. V1 versions in this pack use a memory table from a early BIOS version of the Maximus 2 Formula, where the other vesrion in the pack uses the memory table from the latest M2F BIOS, 1802.

In summary;

- Replaced memory table with M2F mem table
- Replaced CPU table with M2F CPU table

You will probably notice various other changes when experimenting - this is all down to the above mentioned changes. Naturally, feedback is essential.

DL Link

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Has any one else tried these?



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Never mind I see now.

I went ahead and flashed a P5Q Pro version, seemed to be alright but didn't have time for further testing as I haven't finished finding the "right" BIOS for my hardware.

Dude I cant flash not the 1501m v1 for P5Q neighter the 1501m one. The Asus update tool warns, that the rom type is not compatible with the EEPROM. WTF? :shrug:

OK, please someone understand me here: Please dont make me read 60 pages worth of information goodness to find my answer, im trying to get away the "LAZY" way, if ya'll let me! I have a P5Q-PRO on the way, and "KET" Bioses came recommended to me. 2x2GB G.Skill PC8500 ram, Q6700cpu, which BIOS is recommended? looking to get atleast 410FSB and good mem ocing.... Thanks

morning ket

sorry for my bad english

whatt the best bios for the pro with high fsb (over 530 mhz) and 4x1gb cellshock dims?

pleas answer

lg echti

Gah.. so many nooblet questions. Read back even one page and you will see OCing is ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE. One BIOS may work for one person, and not another. Turning back again only one page also gives a link to an older Asus update utility that rids people of that retarded ROM mismatch stuff.