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11-02-2007, 11:11 AM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majoram

That sounds very much like the problem I have.
I sent in both the RAM and the motherboard for RMA.
I'm using the same Ballistix and got errors for all of them (Memtest86+).

Strange thing is when I tried some OCZ PC2-8500, it worked just fine with no errors at all.

I'm getting them back today and I will see how it goes.
The Ballistix I have are PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 and I have 4x1GB but I tried just two at a time and still got errors.

THANK YOU, at least I'm not the only one, I thought I had the worst luck in the world. I have 2 new sticks to try tonight, as long as 1 is ok I'll be in decent shape until the Ballistix come back. (I have 1 good stick from the last batch that tests ok, it just needs a friend now)

Anyone else with weird Memtest errors? Does your RAM like more / less volts than they're rated for at stock speeds?

Maybe this BIOS is just too immature...
11-02-2007, 11:18 AM
sonicsallen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majoram

That sounds very much like the problem I have.
I sent in both the RAM and the motherboard for RMA.
I'm using the same Ballistix and got errors for all of them (Memtest86+).

Strange thing is when I tried some OCZ PC2-8500, it worked just fine with no errors at all.

I'm getting them back today and I will see how it goes.
The Ballistix I have are PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 and I have 4x1GB but I tried just two at a time and still got errors.

I am having trouble overclocking my Ballsitix 8500 too.:(
11-02-2007, 11:20 AM
ChaosMinionX

Went back to 0505 no problems with that one, other than some bugs....BIOS is still very immature imo.
11-02-2007, 11:26 AM
kup

I get the Prime95 not loading the CPU fully issue now, but I don't get it with OCCT, just Prime...?
11-02-2007, 11:45 AM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I get the Prime95 not loading the CPU fully issue now, but I don't get it with OCCT, just Prime...?

OK, so this could be a board issue, anyone with a board could test this????
11-02-2007, 12:40 PM
kup

I've double tested this, OCCT loads 99% but Prime95 hovers around 75-85% mark...?

Ok, what is the best way to test the northbridge for stability? Same as ram, Memtest86+? Or is there something I can specifically use to stress it? I seem to need 1.85v on the northbridge (bios max, actual is nearer 1.9v) to get 475MHz stable with 4 sticks of ram... THAT IS INSANE!!!!
11-02-2007, 12:47 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

THANK YOU, at least I'm not the only one, I thought I had the worst luck in the world. I have 2 new sticks to try tonight, as long as 1 is ok I'll be in decent shape until the Ballistix come back. (I have 1 good stick from the last batch that tests ok, it just needs a friend now)

Anyone else with weird Memtest errors? Does your RAM like more / less volts than they're rated for at stock speeds?

Maybe this BIOS is just too immature...

I didn't bother testing one stick at a time since my sticks came in pairs and to RMA I would have to return both anyway.

Just FYI, I would get errors in tests 5, 6, 7, 8.
Sometimes it was just one or two of those tests or all of them.

I didn't try upping the voltage though. All I did was leave the BIOS at it's default settings and then try the RAM.

I don't see why the voltage would cause a problem as both the OCZ and Ballistix I have are the same timings and same PC2 8500 yet OCZ pair works just fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicsallen

I am having trouble overclocking my Ballsitix 8500 too.:(

I wasn't overclocking though. I just reset the BIOS and Cleared all the settings and then tried the RAM. No changes except to boot from CD first.
11-02-2007, 12:50 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majoram

I didn't bother testing one stick at a time since my sticks came in pairs and to RMA I would have to return both anyway.

Just FYI, I would get errors in tests 5, 6, 7, 8.
Sometimes it was just one or two of those tests or all of them.

I didn't try upping the voltage though. All I did was leave the BIOS at it's default settings and then try the RAM.

I don't see why the voltage would cause a problem as both the OCZ and Ballistix I have are the same timings and same PC2 8500 yet OCZ pair works just fine.

I wasn't overclocking though. I just reset the BIOS and Cleared all the settings and then tried the RAM. No changes except to boot from CD first.

Same here, usually between tests 4 and 5, although one stick was bad enough to show an error immediately. It just seems weird to me that this many sticks are actually bad. I think this board is just REALLY picky about what chips and SPD data are on the sticks.
11-02-2007, 01:11 PM
kup

Where are you guys getting your errors on the sticks? I've got 4x1GB sticks in, so 4096MB of ram, but Memtest86+ is reporting errors within the 4200MB-4350MB range? Is that why I'm getting those errors? Because Memtest is attempting to address a location that isn't actually ram? It seems to be the "reserved" area?
11-02-2007, 01:21 PM
TouGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

It seems depending on your settings for tranaction booster and static read control the voltages for the NB vary enormously... Most users here are at 1.6 NB voltage... I'm at 1.32 for 400FSB with my Q6600@3200 but I disabled the transaction booster and set level 1 ( static read control is enabled and jields for me slightly higher bandwith at 400FSB/1003 ram speeds )... can you try that if it helps to improve ya stability... those are pretty tight timings you are running there... by the way running 2 x 2 Gskills PC8000 ram ( so not 4 dimms )

I'll give your suggestion a try. This is frustrating though, I had no problems running these settings w/ less voltages on my P5K-D.

@TheSamurai

Quote:

you're running a multiplier of 11 with the maximus formula se??? how?

What do you mean? The x6800 runs default at 11x.
11-02-2007, 01:45 PM
TouGe

@ Leeghoofd
Well, you were right. I upped NB voltage to 1.59V and disabled transaction booster and set it to level 1 and so far so good. I've been running OCCT CPU test for almost 15 minutes so far w/o any issues, whereas before I couldn't even get into Windows. Thanks for your help:up:.
11-02-2007, 01:47 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

this has got to be something with the different batches... when did you get your G0??

I get this with a B3...actually with 2 B3's, one L644G, one L725A. This info about OCCT loading tho...that's some good info. will check that out later!
11-02-2007, 02:49 PM
Creek Tha Gray

Version 0602 2007/10/31 update

OS DOS / All OS

Description Maximus Formula BIOS 0602
1. Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
2. Update EIST control code
3. Enhance PCIE card compatibility
4. Enhance memory compatibility

File Size 822.99 (KBytes)

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ftp asus
11-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Maglin

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

Ok, what is the best way to test the northbridge for stability? Same as ram, Memtest86+? Or is there something I can specifically use to stress it? I seem to need 1.85v on the northbridge (bios max, actual is nearer 1.9v) to get 475MHz stable with 4 sticks of ram... THAT IS INSANE!!!!

Wow you are one risky guy Kup. I've read multipule reports of running over 1.7v on the NB on the X38 causing the NB to burn out. I would definitly bring that down and find a stable FSB running like 1.65v max. I hope you are running the NB hooked to a water loop with those kinds of volts.
11-02-2007, 02:56 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maglin

Wow you are one risky guy Kup. I've read multipule reports of running over 1.7v on the NB on the X38 causing the NB to burn out. I would definitly bring that down and find a stable FSB running like 1.65v max. I hope you are running the NB hooked to a water loop with those kinds of volts.

It was only for about 5minutes, just to find out what it would take for 475MHz to not crash OCCT the second it loaded. It lasted 5mins, I stopped it, powered down and changed volts back to 1.49v for normal operation.

I just thought the X38 was supposed to be a good overclocker (it was the only reason I upgraded over my Striker Extreme!!!) and it seems I could run better clocks on the Striker!!!! :eek:
11-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Budwise

im guessing the Maximus Formula and the Maximus Formula Special Edition use the same bios?
11-02-2007, 03:28 PM
JoeBar

Yes they are using the same.
11-02-2007, 03:33 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majoram

I didn't bother testing one stick at a time since my sticks came in pairs and to RMA I would have to return both anyway.

Just FYI, I would get errors in tests 5, 6, 7, 8.
Sometimes it was just one or two of those tests or all of them.

I didn't try upping the voltage though. All I did was leave the BIOS at it's default settings and then try the RAM.

I don't see why the voltage would cause a problem as both the OCZ and Ballistix I have are the same timings and same PC2 8500 yet OCZ pair works just fine.

I wasn't overclocking though. I just reset the BIOS and Cleared all the settings and then tried the RAM. No changes except to boot from CD first.

UPDATE: got home and BOTH SETS of the Corsair XMS2's are failing Memtest
So that's 1 stick out of 6 So either this board HATES this brand of RAM (even
though it's on the QVL) I have incredible bad luck, or there is some setting somewhere that I'm missing. I've tried pretty much everything on auto except for DRAM volts and vCore. I also have transaction booster off from what I've read here. These sticks say 1.9 volts, is that right, my Ballistix were 2.2. Anyone have these, what do you run them at. This is getting nuts!!!
11-02-2007, 03:50 PM
krifosjen

Corsair XMS2 Pro 1.9v 6400 working fine here with Maximus.

Ran memtest 2 times - no errors.

Just FYI.
11-02-2007, 03:57 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by krifosjen

Corsair XMS2 Pro 1.9v 6400 working fine here with Maximus.

Ran memtest 2 times - no errors.

Just FYI.

maybe my board is bad, either that or this is one hell of a bad batch of RAM. MY board also does this thing sometimes when I hit SAVE AND EXIT from the BIOS, it doesn't restart. It shuts down, than flashes for sec and turns back off. I always have to flip the switch on the power supply to turn it back on.
11-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Talonman

When I get up and running, I will report back. ;)

I do have Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB: 2 X 2GB Modules (DDR2)
XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80V ver1.2
(CM2X2048-6400C5DHX)

I baught one 4GB kit. I hope it works ok on my Maximus SE...

I will only have 1 stick in during the initial OS install, until I can apply the Vista 4GB hot fix.
I currently have it in slot 1 (blue).

I hope we find the answer for you too.
11-02-2007, 05:17 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonman

When I get up and running, I will report back. ;)

I do have Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB: 2 X 2GB Modules (DDR2)
XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80V ver1.2
(CM2X2048-6400C5DHX)

I baught one 4GB kit. I hope it works ok on my Maximus SE...

I will only have 1 stick in during the initial OS install, until I can apply the Vista 4GB hot fix.
I currently have it in slot 1 (blue).

I hope we find the answer for you too.

It's going to be a BIG pain in the a$$ but I'm going to bench test with my old 680i board and go through all 5 of the sticks that are testing bad on the Maximus to figure out whether it's the board or just a REALLY bad batch of RAM. I'll report back...
11-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Talonman

Thanks for your efforts, and I will be watching.

Keep us posted buddy! ;)
11-02-2007, 05:32 PM
Scope666

On a happier note, my 8800 GT showed up today, all I can say is WOW. This thing rocks! Here's some Crysis benchies:

8800 GTS 320MB:
------------
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 75.20s, Average FPS: 26.59
Min FPS: 0.14 at frame 1530, Max FPS: 43.33 at frame 1011
Average Tri/Sec: 23566438, Tri/Frame: 886154
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.03

8800 GT 512MB:
----------------
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 37.19s, Average FPS: 53.77
Min FPS: 34.14 at frame 1966, Max FPS: 74.21 at frame 87
Average Tri/Sec: 47746740, Tri/Frame: 887905
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.03
11-02-2007, 07:08 PM
ShawnTRD

Thats alittle of topic but it's good to know. I hope to see G92 GTS come out on the 15th of this month. With a better cooling system.
11-02-2007, 07:46 PM
Maglin

I just purchased the Maximus Formula along with a Q6600 and 2x2GB of that sexy GSkill ram. I hope for once luck will be on my side and get a decent batch of parts and get a good OC w/o pulling my hair out.
11-02-2007, 07:51 PM
Roger_D25

That certainly wouldn't be much fun if everything just worked great and clocked like crazy, lol! In all seriousness that should be a great combo of parts!
11-02-2007, 08:11 PM
Maglin

indeed. I always get unlucky with CPU's that just don't OC well these days. I miss the old days with 100mhz FSB and P2/P3's that OCed like mad. I'm just hoping I don't have to spend a better portion of a month to achieve a decent OC.
11-02-2007, 08:36 PM
S1mon-

I'm in the same situation as you Maglin... I'll most likely purchase a Q6600 along with a Maximus Formula SE with some good 2gig Crucial 8500's... Just hope I'll get good parts to overclock :)
11-02-2007, 09:29 PM
sdumper

Ouch I was hoping for an FSB on par with my BlackPearl but so far I cant even get 460 FSB stable on air :(

I really like the bios and other cool features but am leaning back towards my BlackPearl again...what a disappointment reading this thread has been. I was really hoping others had solved the FSB walls but it sounds like water wont help that much either...
11-02-2007, 10:17 PM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

I'm sure if we give it a little time, Asus will hopefully work out the bugs with new bios versions. Speaking of.... Can anyone confirm whether 0602 proves to fix anything on this board?
11-02-2007, 10:31 PM
crazyea

So far this mb has been stable as a rock. Oc'd like mad. So, totally loving this mb. And my HD 2900 Pro's love it too.

I've put some benchies up over here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=164346

Enjoy :D
11-02-2007, 11:11 PM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyea

So far this mb has been stable as a rock. Oc'd like mad. So, totally loving this mb. And my HD 2900 Pro's love it too.

I've put some benchies up over here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=164346

Enjoy :D

What are your voltages set at?
11-03-2007, 12:29 AM
TouGe

Well 5+ hours OCCT blend stable using the following settings:

9x400MHz
PCI-E: 110MHz
DDR2-1003MHz
5-5-5-9-3-42-6-3
8-3-5-4-6-4-6
DRAM Static Rd Control: Disabled
Transaction Booster: Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU: 1.48V (1.46V)
CPU PLL: Auto (1.648V)
NB: 1.59V (1.616V)
DRAM: 2.10V (2.208V)
FSB Term: Auto (1.456V)
SB: 1.10V (1.136V)
Loadline: Enabled
SB 1.5V: 1.55V
Everything else set to auto.

I'm still rather suprised that it took 0.11V on the NB in order to get a stable 400MHz on this board, even w/ DRAM Static Rd Control disabled. I did the same clocks with DRAM Static Rd enabled and 1.5V on the NB w/ my P5K-D.

Also, while in the grip of boredom, I removed the heatsink over the NB/SB and replaced the NB HS w/ a HR-05 IFX. I was happy to see my NB temps drop down to 36 degrees idle @ 1.62V as read in the BIOS & PC Probe II. Definitely, if not water cooling, rip that bugger off. The heatpipes actually separate into two pieces so you can still cool the Mosfets.
11-03-2007, 01:34 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

edited my post , is it clear now ?

What benches do you want ?

I wanna see HDTune and Other Hard Drive Benchmarks, P35 vs X38
11-03-2007, 04:19 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

I’m in RAM Hell. When I first got this board, both of my Ballistix were randomly testing bad in Memtest86+ One stick all the time, the other only after the machine had been on for a few hours. So I put an RMA request in for them, and picked up a pair of Corsair XMS2 sticks to hold me over until the Ballistix get back. First set of Corsairs, BOTH sticks test bad (different bit locations for each stick, swapped slots and verified it wasn’t the motherboard or the slot itself)

So I returned those 2, got ANOTHER 2 Corsairs, 1 of the 2 is bad. Keeping the good one and hoping CompUSA won’t bust my chops about swapping out just the one bad one today. Anyone else running these sticks? Have you had problems? What volts do you guys run these at. They’re rated at 1.9 which sounds low compared to the 2.2 the Ballistix are rated at. At the moment just trying to run them at their rated timings and speed. (DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 timings)

Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

Hi, mine also fail big time, yet they are 100% stable in all other tests. However I'm not about to rma anything as it's only memtest that has these issues...
ChrisC
11-03-2007, 04:28 AM
Renegade5399

OK got mine. Semi-impressed so far. 400*9 no issue with my Ballistix Tracer 1066 set to 1066. Now I know my 6850 is 4GHz stable from running it in my 680i. Trouble is, when I go to boot at 500*8 with the RAM set 1:1, the board won't post. Sits at DET DRAM. Remove one stick and it boots. Memtested both sticks passed 100%. Tried all four slots, still no go with 2 sticks at 500*8. 1 stick boots to windows fine, Orthos OK, CPU stable. Just can't boot with both sticks and this is very frustrating. This is with 0505 BIOS, going to try 0602 later this evening. If I am paying $268 for a mobo, it damn well better boot with any RAM I choose at any divider as well. So I hope new BIOS revisions keep coming.
11-03-2007, 04:36 AM
BulldogPO

Gotta test this new bios.
Any things broken thistime?
11-03-2007, 05:49 AM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, mine also fail big time, yet they are 100% stable in all other tests. However I'm not about to rma anything as it's only memtest that has these issues...
ChrisC

yeah, I'm starting to wonder about that. I passed 30 minutes with OCCT so I have to think if my RAM was bad that would have caught it. Can anyone recommend another RAM test that I can use to isolate the FSB / RAM and make sure it's stable?

I'm really glad I found this forum! :yepp:

if anyone else had false Memtest86+ 1.70 errors please chime in
11-03-2007, 06:07 AM
Scooby

My board is not here yet but I would like to know if you can control the fan speed in the bios when pluged in a fan header on the board? Just needed to know before I spend $$ on a fan controller.

Thanks:)

@Renegade, What was the highest OC you got with 2 sticks of ram on the board? And what brand of ram are you using.
11-03-2007, 06:57 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

yeah, I'm starting to wonder about that. I passed 30 minutes with OCCT so I have to think if my RAM was bad that would have caught it. Can anyone recommend another RAM test that I can use to isolate the FSB / RAM and make sure it's stable?

I'm really glad I found this forum! :yepp:

if anyone else had false Memtest86+ 1.70 errors please chime in

Hi, well I've just tested 2 of the 4 modules and they seem ok, I'll leave the other 2 running in a mo and report back my findings..
ChrisC
11-03-2007, 07:07 AM
cuke2u

Hi, I've not actually tried this http://www.goldmemory.cz/ but some guys on the Asus forum recommend it...
ChrisC
11-03-2007, 07:08 AM
MKM

Is there actually any way to control CHA and OPT fan RPMs on this Maximus board through the BIOS or do I have to buy a fan controller?
11-03-2007, 07:56 AM
Renegade5399

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby

My board is not here yet but I would like to know if you can control the fan speed in the bios when pluged in a fan header on the board? Just needed to know before I spend $$ on a fan controller.

Thanks:)

@Renegade, What was the highest OC you got with 2 sticks of ram on the board? And what brand of ram are you using.

3600 thus far. 400*9. Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2 8500 (1066). I'm going to try 445*9 and see if it boots then.
11-03-2007, 08:01 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKM

Is there actually any way to control CHA and OPT fan RPMs on this Maximus board through the BIOS or do I have to buy a fan controller?

pretty much every fan header but the "power fan" by the 8-p[in connector are adjustable from bios, altohugh there are not alot of options for speed...50% and up, some have higher selections.
11-03-2007, 08:04 AM
MKM

You mean those settings that only show up when you enable the q-fan thingy? In that case I will try again.
11-03-2007, 08:06 AM
cadaveca

some are q-fan, some are ratio, some are both.
11-03-2007, 08:24 AM
ShawnTRD

Hi guys,

I don't know if this might be a SATA driver issue, but I notice that when installing XP it takes like 45 minutes to do the install. It seems to hang after it does the restart after formatting/copying files. And when I install Vista I notice it takes a long time to startup. Hangs for a long time on the blank screen before the vista logo. This has been like then sence I built the new system in my sig.

Thanks
Shawn
11-03-2007, 09:01 AM
dMITIj

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Hi guys,

I don't know if this might be a SATA driver issue, but I notice that when installing XP it takes like 45 minutes to do the install. It seems to hang after it does the restart after formatting/copying files. And when I install Vista I notice it takes a long time to startup. Hangs for a long time on the blank screen before the vista logo. This has been like then sence I built the new system in my sig.

Thanks
Shawn

try update your BIOS before the install of OS, that help me when i was on to this MB
11-03-2007, 09:09 AM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

It's going to be a BIG pain in the a$$ but I'm going to bench test with my old 680i board and go through all 5 of the sticks that are testing bad on the Maximus to figure out whether it's the board or just a REALLY bad batch of RAM. I'll report back...

OK, time for the bad news. I put the 680i back in and started running the "bad" modules through Memtest one at a time, and they are testing OK. SO... looks like the board is bad and has to be RMA'd

I was suspicious also because everytime I hit F10 to save settings in the BIOS, it would just shut down and not start back up again. I would have to turn the Power Supply off and get all the power in the board to drain before I could turn
back on. Even Asus thinks its probably a bad board.
11-03-2007, 09:23 AM
mXpS

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, turn off jmicron in the bios...
Chris

I disabled it in the BIOS but it still shows up when i'm booting. Does anything else need to be disabled?
11-03-2007, 09:37 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, well I've just tested 2 of the 4 modules and they seem ok, I'll leave the other 2 running in a mo and report back my findings..
ChrisC

Hi, the other two also test out ok. Now going to try the blue module sockets...
ChrisC
11-03-2007, 09:41 AM
ShawnTRD

Quote:

Originally Posted by dMITIj

try update your BIOS before the install of OS, that help me when i was on to this MB

I'm on 0505
11-03-2007, 10:00 AM
Simkin

BIOS 0602 is out...
11-03-2007, 10:18 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

I wanna see HDTune and Other Hard Drive Benchmarks, P35 vs X38

Here they are, done all tests 3 times:
All test on same Hd's (Samsung 500GB HD S-ata ), Gskill ram at PC8000 5-5-5-15 and CPU at 3ghz ( 9 x333 )

HDtune P35

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5Ktune.JPG

HDtune X38

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/X38htune.JPG

Sisoft Read P35

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5KSREAD.JPG

Sisoft Read X38

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/X38SREAD.JPG

Sisoft File system P35

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5KSFile.JPG

Sisoft File system X38

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/X38SFile.JPG

If I compare X38 is a tat faster then P35 but by not much... I redone all tests 3 times and I got similar results
11-03-2007, 10:18 AM
kimandsally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

UPDATE: got home and BOTH SETS of the Corsair XMS2's are failing Memtest
So that's 1 stick out of 6 So either this board HATES this brand of RAM (even
though it's on the QVL) I have incredible bad luck, or there is some setting somewhere that I'm missing. I've tried pretty much everything on auto except for DRAM volts and vCore. I also have transaction booster off from what I've read here. These sticks say 1.9 volts, is that right, my Ballistix were 2.2. Anyone have these, what do you run them at. This is getting nuts!!!

Please post your timings and voltages so we can see if something stands out.
11-03-2007, 10:49 AM
Renegade5399

Scope I think you're experiencing the divider issue. And I doubt memtest will work right on this board.

As for me, I have gotten to 4GHz, 445*9 1.48v Core, 1.63v NB, 1.1 and 1.63 SB volts, 1.8 PLL volts, 1.55 FSB Term volts.

I am having issues with certain dividers as is most everyone else. This is easy to work around, but it would be nice if they fixed it.

Screeshot:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...20X38/4GHz.jpg

Sorry for the small CPUz font, I run 1600x1200. All temps are good IMO. The RAM does get overvolted by .1 volts, so watch that.

I would also like to add (coming from a 680i) that Loadline Calibration is by far the best feature ever. Sorry nvidia guys, but if you don't need SLI, this board is far superior than the 680i IMO.
11-03-2007, 12:35 PM
GAR

OK guys just got my BFG 8800GT OC, this thing is a overclocking monster, does 756/1836/2160 very easy, better performer than my 8800GTX overclocked even, wow, never thought so little money could buy me that good of a video card.
11-03-2007, 01:53 PM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade5399

Scope I think you're experiencing the divider issue. And I doubt memtest will work right on this board.

As for me, I have gotten to 4GHz, 445*9 1.48v Core, 1.63v NB, 1.1 and 1.63 SB volts, 1.8 PLL volts, 1.55 FSB Term volts.

I am having issues with certain dividers as is most everyone else. This is easy to work around, but it would be nice if they fixed it.

Are those the lowest stable voltages you have been able to get? Is that much CPU PLL voltage actually necessary? I'd like to get about 420 x 9 since I can't get 450 x 8 to work and I am having issues with 420 x 9 but I think it will be more doable than 450x8. Also, is the the bios setting for cpu pll or the actual bios reading?
11-03-2007, 02:17 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Lads i made a bo bo. Pulled stock cooling off, guess what came off as well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...E/PA145400.jpg

Heheh i now have a naked X38.

The IHS is very very stuck to the stock HSF!

Pete you think that was awesome look at this guys piccies at post 6, I couldn't believe it was possible

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1031617149
11-03-2007, 02:49 PM
weescott

:eek:

To think I was 2 minutes away from attempting to take off the heatpipe from my board.

I am really glad I didn't now!
11-03-2007, 02:56 PM
Leeghoofd

Well it's best done when you get the board out of the box, I did it after a few hours pf running and the putty was already very very sticky, needed half an hour slowly heating it up with a hair dryer, then gently turning it left right , each time a few mm's , then again hair dryer,.... mm's were gained till it popped off with IHS in place :)

Then another hour with Arctic Cleaning kit on the NB to get it cleaned... Never ever needed so much work to remove a heatsink, I hope this is not the goo Asus will use each time pfffffffffff
11-03-2007, 03:10 PM
Budwise

what problems are you guys having with the memory dividers?
11-03-2007, 03:45 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade5399

Scope I think you're experiencing the divider issue. And I doubt memtest will work right on this board.

As for me, I have gotten to 4GHz, 445*9 1.48v Core, 1.63v NB, 1.1 and 1.63 SB volts, 1.8 PLL volts, 1.55 FSB Term volts.

I am having issues with certain dividers as is most everyone else. This is easy to work around, but it would be nice if they fixed it.

Sorry for the small CPUz font, I run 1600x1200. All temps are good IMO. The RAM does get overvolted by .1 volts, so watch that.

I would also like to add (coming from a 680i) that Loadline Calibration is by far the best feature ever. Sorry nvidia guys, but if you don't need SLI, this board is far superior than the 680i IMO.

I was trying to run 1:1 most of the time. I started at stock 266, also tried 333 and 400. Same thing every time. I'm convinced I got a bad board. The restart issues alone are out of control. I shouldn't have to flip the power off on the power supply to reboot. Not to mention again the 5 out of 6 sticks that tested bad with this board in Memtest86+, Memtest (Windows) and two different versions of Windows Memory Diagnostic, all test fine on the 680i. Even Asus thinks it’s bad, from the restart issues alone. Not sure if I want to try another one or just live with the 680i for now. This board took 4 days of my life that I’ll never get back. ;-)
11-03-2007, 03:48 PM
cadaveca

alot don't work on 266FSB timings. 333 is fine, but I like266/400fsb/1000mem, and is currently hard to get stable. Secondary timings have to be set far too loose, and voltage far to high...I can pop everything in P35 and other and have no issues...

I mean, really, this chip is different, maybe these speeds don't work, but I get higher FSB on 266 than I do on 333 on all other boards for some reason, with elss volts.
11-03-2007, 03:52 PM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

alot don't work on 266FSB timings. 333 is fine, but I like266/400fsb/1000mem, and is currently hard to get stable. Secondary timings have to be set far too loose, and voltage far to high...I can pop everything in P35 and other and have no issues...

I mean, really, this chip is different, maybe these speeds don't work, but I get higher FSB on 266 than I do on 333 on all other boards for some reason, with elss volts.

Probably just growing pains, it's a VERY new chipset, and the BIOS is in its infant stages. It will probably take awhile before this thing starts to shine. My old P5b Deluxe was like that when it first came out, then it became a rock.
11-03-2007, 04:05 PM
safan80

has anyone managed to get their quad core up to 4Ghz with this board?
11-03-2007, 04:13 PM
OverClocker_gr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

has anyone managed to get their quad core up to 4Ghz with this board?

me :D

This cpu at abit IP35 pro hit a wall ta ~3950 MHz

This is @ 4090(bumped the fsb with setfsb so the 3dmark didnt recognize the actual speed but the speed that the system boots into windowz)
11-03-2007, 04:15 PM
safan80

Sweet!

got a shot of your cpu-z info with ram settings?
11-03-2007, 04:16 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scope666

Probably just growing pains, it's a VERY new chipset, and the BIOS is in its infant stages. It will probably take awhile before this thing starts to shine. My old P5b Deluxe was like that when it first came out, then it became a rock.

Yes, of course, but none of the other boards I had have had as many issues. It's kinda a love-hate relationship.:ROTF: I don't want a differnt board...I just want this one to work.:shakes:
11-03-2007, 04:18 PM
OverClocker_gr

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

Sweet!

got a shot of your cpu-z info with ram settings?

no.
The cpu it wasn't mine so these are only tests.
If i remember well it should be around ~607-609 at 5-4-4-5 and tight sub timmings
11-03-2007, 04:20 PM
safan80

what ram did you use?
11-03-2007, 04:21 PM
OverClocker_gr

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

what ram did you use?

OCZ 8500 SLi-Ready with D9GMH chips
11-03-2007, 04:34 PM
cliffy

Heres some results i just got at 3.915Ghz

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...y2006/01-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ffy2006/03.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ffy2006/05.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...fy2006/mem.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...fy2006/spi.jpg

Here is another couple at 4.05Ghz crashed during 3DMark 05 though so got some more work to do.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2006/40501.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...006/405mem.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2006/405pi.jpg
11-03-2007, 04:39 PM
TheSamurai

GAR!!!! since the last clock i've managed to get 445x9 (not stable yet) and i'm now having the issues with prime not loading the cpu 99-100%. it's high 80's to low 90's. i think the vcore is at 1.57 according to probe. just wanted to get it stable and then work my way back.... but yeah, so i'm now having the same problem. we have definately got to figure this out. pretty much everybody has the issue now lol, i thought i disproved it about the board/cpu but i guess not. it just comes at different volts for others.
11-03-2007, 04:48 PM
TheSamurai

weird issue... OCCT was stable for 4+ minutes, cpu was running 99%, but the temps seemed low. CT was saying 50 degrees at it's highest. i know that it would probably get a slight bit higher after running for awhile but it should be higher then that. probably around 55 or so i'm thinking. this leads me to believe that it's still not loading 100% for some reason.
11-03-2007, 04:49 PM
TheSamurai

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverClocker_gr

me :D

This cpu at abit IP35 pro hit a wall ta ~3950 MHz

This is @ 4090(bumped the fsb with setfsb so the 3dmark didnt recognize the actual speed but the speed that the system boots into windowz)

was it stable?!?!
11-03-2007, 05:04 PM
TheSamurai

kept the same settings as before except the vcore is now 1.54v and it loads 100% in prime and shortly after it starts the computer shutsdown and restarts. fyi. any ideas?
11-03-2007, 05:38 PM
OverClocker_gr

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

was it stable?!?!

3dmark06 stable :p
And 32m stable @ 4130

all at water
11-03-2007, 06:34 PM
weescott

This is my max fsb suicide shot:

http://www.weescott.co.uk/images/intel/455.jpg

Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 910mhz 1:1

454 is Pi stable...sometimes.

444 is the max fully stable fsb I have had with this board thus far.
11-03-2007, 06:37 PM
ShawnTRD

Is there anyone that uses the F6 option to install SATA drivers for windows with this MB?
11-03-2007, 06:39 PM
TheSamurai

what do you mean shawn?
11-03-2007, 06:51 PM
ShawnTRD

Well I know with some motherboards the SATA controller isn't supported my Windows XP. I'm thinking that maybe the ones that came with this motherboard might be better then what XP can us.

I posted this earlier today:
_________________________________________
Hi guys,

I don't know if this might be a SATA driver issue, but I notice that when installing XP it takes like 45 minutes to do the install. It seems to hang after it does the restart after formatting/copying files. And when I install Vista I notice it takes a long time to startup. Hangs for a long time on the blank screen before the vista logo. This has been like then sence I built the new system in my sig.

Thanks
Shawn
11-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Renegade5399

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

Are those the lowest stable voltages you have been able to get? Is that much CPU PLL voltage actually necessary? I'd like to get about 420 x 9 since I can't get 450 x 8 to work and I am having issues with 420 x 9 but I think it will be more doable than 450x8. Also, is the the bios setting for cpu pll or the actual bios reading?

Well that is the lowest CPU voltage stable. The NB Auto set to 1.65 so I set it to 1.63. The PLL is from the hardware monitor reading in the BIOS. I haven't tried lower on that yet.
11-03-2007, 09:37 PM
kimandsally

Quote:

Originally Posted by mXpS

I disabled it in the BIOS but it still shows up when i'm booting. Does anything else need to be disabled?

Bios - Boot- boot settings config - wait for F1 if error disabled.

That will fix it. :D
11-03-2007, 09:44 PM
Renegade5399

OK, 500*8 works just fine on this 6850. Ballistix set to 1201 5-5-5-18. Orthos stable. I am noticing I need less vCore for 4GHz when compared to my 680i. 4.1GHz is now attainable, but a significant jump in voltage is required. I rather prefer 500*8 with RAM at 1200 and a lower CPU voltage (1.48). Going to bench now and see how this old 7900GT holds up.
11-03-2007, 09:45 PM
GTX

some results with latest bios 0602

Max FSB with Quadcore, 477mhz
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asus/MF0602/477s.gif

Max Quadcore stable 470mhz
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...2/8x47032m.gif

Max DDR2 Frequency 731mhz (DDR2 1462)
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asus/MF0602/731s.gif

4 dimms 8 bank with D9GMH, 1GBX4 DDR2-1200
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...d_cpuz1200.jpg

General 9X400 for reference
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/asu...f_9x40032m.gif

oringal reviews here
http://www.xfastest.com/redirect.php...tpost#lastpost
11-04-2007, 12:33 AM
393

Are there any SATAII issues with this motherboard?
11-04-2007, 12:47 AM
Evanesco

Are these DIMMs good for Maximus Formula?

http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=329419

They've been tested to run with very tight timings 833MHz 3-3-3-9 and very high speed 1300MHz 5-5-5-15. They are based on Micron D9 chips.

Anyone here got experience with these modules?
11-04-2007, 12:57 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

I don't know if this might be a SATA driver issue, but I notice that when installing XP it takes like 45 minutes to do the install. It seems to hang after it does the restart after formatting/copying files.

Well it stops for about 1-2mins minutes after formatting the harddrive but it did that too with the install of my P35 P5Dlx mobo, no I didn't use the S-ata drivers of the cd, just Windows XP with SP2 integrated... I don't think it took 45 minutes to install max 30-35 minutes or so... I'll time it next time as i'm currently still testing the board on the testbench, once I put it into the rig I'll format the C partition again... and keep you updated on the that matter...

@393 : I'm currently running the dreaded Samsung HD's that seems to mess up the P5K premium a lot, no issues here mate...
11-04-2007, 01:17 AM
393

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

@393 : I'm currently running the dreaded Samsung HD's that seems to mess up the P5K premium a lot, no issues here mate...

So if you were in my shoes would you go for another Premium or would you be recommending the Maximus Formula SE?

Then again there's always the Abit IP35 Pro/ IX38 Q GT too....?
11-04-2007, 01:54 AM
MKM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

some are q-fan, some are ratio, some are both.

I just don't get how you do to get it to work. I connected my S-FLEX fan directly to the OPT_FAN 2 connector and then reduced the duty cycle all the way to 70% in the BIOS and the RPM didn't change at all..
11-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by 393

So if you were in my shoes would you go for another Premium or would you be recommending the Maximus Formula SE?

Then again there's always the Abit IP35 Pro/ IX38 Q GT too....?

By getting another premium you mean RMAing your current board ? if you buy another board I would go with the X38 (brand of your choice) , as it offers better support with 4 dimms, PCI2.0, twice 16X and I think better Penryn overclocking capabilities but that has to be seen in the upcoming weeks how it will perform...

For me this board is surely on par if not better (slightly better data transfer rates then my P5K Dlx) and runs alot cooler in the PWM area...and more settings to tweak...
11-04-2007, 03:00 AM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimandsally

Would like some opinions on what to do, currently I have some Kingston DDR2 8500 2X1GB kit, it works just fine but I have an opportunity to sell it and buy some different ram, my options are 2X2GB 6400 ram;

OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Reaper
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series

what would be the plus and negative points of 2Gb or 4GB there is the difference of 6400 to 9200 DDR2 specs but would Vista 32 be better with 4GB or would Vista 64 be MUCH better with 4GB?

if you actually want to use vista 64 get 4GB of ram. vista x64 loves memory! the best way you can get your answer is by running vista if you like the extra in it you'll want $4GB of ram.
11-04-2007, 03:03 AM
393

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

By getting another premium you mean RMAing your current board ?

Yes, then get a Maximus to replace it....
11-04-2007, 04:05 AM
X@b3e

Hi there!
I got my mobo on wednesday, and have a problem with an X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro audio card, that doesn't work with the Maximus. I tried to run with the Supreme FX, after that I disabled it, but nothing happened with the X-Fi. The card is in the lower PCI slot, can't fit to the upper because of the VGA waterblock. Anyone has issues with X-Fi, or am I the only one lucky guy?
11-04-2007, 04:59 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by X@b3e

Hi there!
I got my mobo on wednesday, and have a problem with an X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro audio card, that doesn't work with the Maximus. I tried to run with the Supreme FX, after that I disabled it, but nothing happened with the X-Fi. The card is in the lower PCI slot, can't fit to the upper because of the VGA waterblock. Anyone has issues with X-Fi, or am I the only one lucky guy?

mmm the Extreme Music and the extreme gamer run here fine on my rev 1.02G board with 0505 bios... (reverted back from 0602)

you mean the board doesn't post ? or doesn't it get into windows ?

@393 get the Maximus mate if you can do it like that...
11-04-2007, 05:39 AM
giorgos th.

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some of my quick results with the new system....0505 bios...what is wrong with 4:5??i cannot boot at all.........3dmarks with 1.6Vcore,.
3D05 - 24031

3D06 - 16204
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9427/062wf6.jpg
11-04-2007, 05:43 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, the other two also test out ok. Now going to try the blue module sockets...
ChrisC

Hi again, well those sockets test fine as well with only two memory sticks in place, looks like this motherboard doesn't like 4 x 1gbs.
Anyone recommend some 2 x 2gb memory modules?
ChrisC
11-04-2007, 05:53 AM
Mauri Antero

Just started to testing since my P5B wifi-Dlx stopped to 500fsb.
Now without any modifications max fsb reached 525fsb, next thin bolt some heavier cooling and testing more. :)

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