Ok my new Rampage Formula arrived in the mail. I needed a new board for my rig as my Maximus Formula is going into my buddy's rig. It shipped with bios 0219 and everything is running just fine now.
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Ok my new Rampage Formula arrived in the mail. I needed a new board for my rig as my Maximus Formula is going into my buddy's rig. It shipped with bios 0219 and everything is running just fine now.
I did the switch from P5E to Rampage yesterday, no problems at all with flashing the bios etc...
Everything works just fine, now I finally can read some voltages in windows, and a lot of ram tweaks came available in the bios, I LIKE !
Also my vdroop is lovely, I got with my Q6600 on 4Ghz idle 1.384Vcore, and load also 1.384Vcore ! Only the vdrop is 1.4000 set in bios and get 1.384, but I don't mind...
About the overvolting thing off the P5E, now I can read the voltages I can say the P5E overvolts the ram with 0.09, so if you set 2.2 you get 2.29 !
Hopes this a little bit helpfull :) .
So is there a conclusion that the Rampage bios is any better than the Maximus bios for a Q6600??? I'd like to push my setup a little more to say 3.8/4.0 and try and keep the 8gb, that's the reason im a askin....:cool:
Why don't you try it? None of us will give you a more exact answer to that question than yourself :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?
Are you sure about the overvolting RAM bit? Because as far as I know, the P5E boards don't actually have a sensor to read vDIMM, which means the Rampage BIOS is probably just pulling a voltage out of it's ass :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigys
And that's some pretty decent vDrop and vDroop. I'm getting about 0.05v vDrop and another 0.05v vDroop on my P5E, which is a bit of an ass sometimes.
The Rampage boards have a couple of extra temp sensors compared to the P5E, so it's just the BIOS trying to read a temp sensor that isn't there. Simply disable that temp sensor in Hardware Monitor, and you should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
Eller
just go into your hardware monitor bios page and put all those wacky extra temps on "ignored"Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
to flash the original bios back use the same procedure as the RF ones, but use the 605 or whatever bios you want
for the ram overvolt with the rampage bios, i get:
Code:|2.24 | 2.26 | 2.28 | 2.30 |< BIOS "set to"
|2.336 | 2.352 | 2.368 | 2.384 |< Everest
|2.291 | 2.313 | 2.332 | 2.351 |< DMM
| .045 | .039 | .036 | .033 |< RF Bios Error
NOTE: everest gives same reading as the bios hardware monitor page
so it looks like RF bios is exaggerating the actual overvolt the P5E already have, it's .05v overvolt, i can't remember what it gave me with the P5E bios but as far as i can remember i don't think i needed 2.30 to get to 2.35.
now i wish i could read the NB/fsb/pll volts with my dmm, cause the ones reported seems fishy
First, I'm not clear on why you're giving multiple voltages for bios, everest, DMM (for example, what are all these voltages:
2.24 - 2.26 - 2.28 - 2.30 < BIOS
Let's say you set the bios to 2.24 volts. You're saying the DMM reading is what? 2.291v? I just don't get this chart.
Second, Everest doesn't give voltages for RAM (at least not with my P5E 0605 bios). Everest only shows the SPD spec voltage, not the actual voltage. Does the P5E even have a Dim voltage sensor? Where are reading ram voltage in Everest?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by mk-ultra
dude keep up with the thread!
this is using the rampage formula bios, i say it like 5 time in my post
first row is actual voltage set in the bios, obvious to me, maybe i should have been more explicit
and it was to bring real data, to Prodigys about the presumed overvolts of 0.09v
I know it's the Rampage bios.
I'm just a bit confused with your chart.
This would be clear:
Set in Bios: X Volts
DMM: Y Volts
Everest: Z volts
And, Everest shows dram voltage with the Rampage bios? Where? I've never seen actual dram voltage in Everest.
Sorry it I missed some posts here, but I hope you can clarify this. Thanks!
with the RF bios it does give you ram voltage in everest, with the other voltages, it also gives FSB, NB , SB/SB1.5
just read my chart from top to bottom
Thanks for clarification. :)
thanks for your help, I have now disabled the sensors and the message is gone, for those to which this may happen and are ignorant to it like me, you have to disable all three sensors opt1, 2 and 3, for the warning to stop appearing, first I only disabled the sensors that were giving me the warning message but they kept giving it, I was only able to get rid of the message by disabling all three of them
It dosn't matter what Everest tells you your vDIMM is, as has been stated so manny times, the P5E has no sensor to read it!!!
With the RF BIOS, pencil mod from this thread and load line enabled, under load I'm getting 0.004v droop. http://www.i4memory.com/showpost.php...32&postcount=7Quote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller
This recent RF bios flashing killed my Crucial Ballistix memories.
OCCT and Prime 95 can't last a second, so I flashed back to P5E 0502. It still gave me the same problem despite of higher voltage to the modules.:down:
nobody said it did!Quote:
Originally Posted by necron66
So why does so manny people keep refering to Aisuite and everest reading non existant sensors all the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by mk-ultra
Hey guys, has anyone flashed their P5E to the Rampage and uses sub-zero temps ? It seems NO temp programs can get the correct temperature :shrug: :shrug:
I think my earlier post on vdimm voltage was overlooked, so I will repost:
I verified it with the Rampage bios just now. At 2.16v in bios I still get a reading of 2.21v on the mutimeter (Fluke 177 Digital meter), while Everest v4.40.1330 displays my vdimm at 2.22vQuote:
Originally Posted by EOD
This is may be old news for some, but here is a quote from a post I found interesting:
Both coretemp and realtemp are accurately reading the DTS sensor on your cpu, and both will accurately show the distance from throttling (distance from tjmax). Converting those relative temps (from prochot#) to absolute temps require knowing tjmax. Intel will not divulge tjmax of desktops, probably because intel has said they may change batch to batch (ie even for silent revisions?). Coretemp is guessing tjmax of 105, because 45nm mobile cpus have tjmax 105, but intel has stated that is INCORRECT. Realtemp is guessing tjmax as 95, which is an educated guess based on real measurements of casing temps at idle, underclocked, undervolted, steady state, that according to intel specs should result in a near equlibrium between core/casing temps, ie within 1-2C. So you are probably better off using realtemp with tjmax of 95. That might be 1-2C off, but no way, no how is tjmax 105C reported by coretemp. Speedfan 4.34 latest beta uses a tjmax of 100, which reads between coretemp and realtemp. Personally I use either realtemp or speedfan with -5C calibration, I use 95 tjmax for mine, as I think that is most accurate. But anything in 95-97 +/- 1 or 2 would be hard to argue with.
More info at Anandtech : http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3251&p=4
RealTemp Info: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179044
RealTemp DL: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...78#post2809778
CoreTemp: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Figured out what the problems with my memories. I tired 3 different brands of memories, PDP, Cosair and Kingston. All failed OCCT memory test within 5 seconds.
So It wasnt' the memory module issue. When MF or RF bios' were installed they were reporting OPT_TEMP1 and TEMP3 overheat. Somehow, RF bios damaged NB's memory controller.
Now I need a new mobo.:shakes:
Sorry to hear. But as I said when this started, I would never flash my MB with a different model bios. It's risky and in my opinion, the gains if any are minor. I have my E8400 clocked at 4.0 Ghz. with the P5E 0605 bios and I'm happy. You have to be willing to assume the risk when you overclock or flash modified or unofficial bios. Hope you're up and running again soon.
While we're on the subject of risk, I highly recommend you don't exceed 1.3625v with the E8400. It's a fragile 45nm cpu and I've read numerous posts of users where their CPU degraded. Forget that Intel states that the upper maximum is 1.45v. It's incorrect - users have ruined their E8400's at that voltage and lower. Use the maximum VID which is 1.3625v.
See "E8400 Crapped out! YAY!!!!" Thread: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...d-out-yay.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by mngdew
Actually, what was most likely happening was that the RF BIOS was trying to read two temp probes (OPT_TEMP1 and TEMP3) that do not exist on your P5E board. The P5E board only has a temp probe for northbridge (as well as using the CPU's probe), while the MF and RF boards have a few extra (I think it's SB and Mofsets). Depending on how the probes work, when the BIOS is trying to read a probe that doesn't exist, it'd either read the minimum or maximum (which is what's probably happening here) temp that the BIOS's programmers figured it'd need to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by mngdew
Eller
The problem got worse, and my system could not boot into the Windows.
So I swapped mobo with a real MF, and everything is back to normal.
Do the Formula/Maximus bios allow greater than 1.75 on the nb??
Just Curious, but why would you want more than 1.75v on the Northbridge!?
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Originally Posted by screwtech02
1.85v if I can remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
I'm pushing 8gb.... Or trying at least....:cool:
Does anyone know why the Asus Taiwan ftp is down? ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5E/
New files always show up there first.
US ftp works:
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5E/
BIOS 0607 is on ftp:
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...5E/P5E0607.zip
Looks like a beta :shocked:
Hey.
Could somebody post the best possible P5E BIOS settings for the QX9650 and the RAM in my sig? I can't seem to get the RAM up to 1000mhz (it's only stable running a 1:1 ratio with the FSB at 400)
I currently have only:
-Raised the FSB to 400 (1600 effective)
-Increased DRAM voltage to 2.1 volts
-Increased VCore to 1.365 volts
-Set RAM timings to 5,5,5,15 (2T)
There's a lot of other settings on the BIOS, and I suspect that I need to change some of these (PIL voltage, termination voltage, refresh cycle time, etc)
Don't forget increasing the NB voltage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairH
What kind Ram do you have (model, speed, timings). Your Ram may simply not be capable of 1000 Mhz! 2GB modules are especially troublesome.
Northbridge voltage increases often help Ram clock faster.
You could also increase you timings (to say 6-5-5-15). But remember, memory running at 4-4-4-12 at 800 Mhz. is just as fast as memory running at 5-5-5-15 at 1066 Mhz.
Yeah, I've upped the northbridge voltage to 1.5 volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by INTREPID
the RAM in question is the G.Skill 4Gb PQ DDRII PC8000 (2X2GB) kit. Stock speed should be 1000Mhz, and the stock timings are 5-5-5-15.
Well, all I can say is that I had problems with 2x2GB modules.
I'm currently running 4 x 1GB G.Skill's at 4-4-4-12 @ 890 Mhz. and I'm happy.
See: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
I have 2 of these board with e2200 and crucial 4x1gb each system(ddr2-800)..
running at 401x8 1:1 with stock nb voltage..
no problem so far.. what is this problem with memory that p5e having?
I do not see any problems so far.
although I was not able to oc e2200 450x8 =/
and 1T timing.. no matter what I do, it doesnt seem to work.(oc or not)
Best bios on ASUS P5E is ?????
For me the best bios to date is..........
.......601.......
I am running an e8400 chip
I have not tried 607 as yet.... 602 and 05 would not let me clock any where near where the 601 does..........
WZ
Well write now i am running the 607 bios And it runs fine at 510mhz
There is no best bios. Everyone has their favorite depending on their CPU, Ram and clocking. I like the latest non-beta bios: 0605.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaRn ssR
@PaRn ssR : why you dont try mod bios.... turn your P5E3 to MAXIMUS XTREME and you can get some litle performance :) :)
BIOS 607.........
Well it works good enough but, it loosens up your memory. So I won't use it.
However for you guys that are running Quad cores at say around 400 fsb you may find that you can use 1T settings. So even tho it loosens memory it may still yield for some better performance.
Darnezz your running at 510fsb is a good thing but when you have to use the 8x multi then it is negated by the low mhz. Try running the 8.5 for a while
Then try the 9 you should be able to get to 500 on both.
I ran the 607 last night for a couple hours before I tossed it.
Loose memory does not hurt pi times but it kills 3D cpu scores.
My aquamark cpu score fell about 600 points at a given clock with this bios.
It is stable enough so some of you should definately give it a try. As it may work better with your memory.
This is as high as it would go for me last night. Like I say I only had a couple hours to mess with it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...la/bios607.jpg
So come on guys do some experimenting.....
WZ
guys just bought a maximus had have a P5k-E wifi board now how similar are these boards to overclock a E3110 and can you guys help with some bios setting I might try. My P5k-e has this chip at 4.05ghz at 1.296v but has a reset issue after that. The chip primes all they way to 4.2ghz. I was hoping the maximus might be slighty more stable.
WeldZilla i Can't go any higher with the cpu because the cpu gets so hot i can't kool i down. 4250 i have too give the cpu alot of volts too get it stabile..Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
I am use P5E not P5E3Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
What is the significance of the "FSB strap" in the BIOS settings?
I too and wondering the same! :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairH
Quite a price bump!Quote:
Originally Posted by EOD
Hi Guys,
Great thread here.... I'm torn between P5E or the Maximus Formula.
The Formula costs me 10 pounds \ 20 Euros more, so price isn't the issue.
I want the most stable board, I'm not an overclocker to be honest although I might want to overclock the board a little.
Also will the below components be ok or please recommend anything I should change:-
Antec Solo or P182
Corsair 520 PSU
G.Skill 6400 HZ
Intel Core 2 Duo 8500
Thermalright XP-90 or XP-120
Thanks, Danny.
Hey guys, which processor should i get for my asus p5e?
Q9450 or e8400
I'm using my comp for games ( COd4, Crysis, bioshock, etc)
and some other minor apps (office, and other school related crap)
I'm gonna be doing a mild overclock - say 400 -420 fsb
Which processor is the better deal?
AsusP5E, 8800gtx, 2gig corsair pc2 8500 (1066mhz)
currently e6600 @3.4 ghz
any answer will be appreciated
thanks
The E8400 is the best processor for the money right now. It's cool, easily overclocks like a deamon, and is only $200 !! And it's 45nm! You can't go wrong.
Why buy a much more expensive quad when nearly every game can not benefit from 4 cores? Now, if you use applications that can utilize 4 cores and you have the $$$, they go for it. In that case, I personally would get the Yorkfield 45nm Quad.
I just ordered an E8400 2 hours ago to replace my E6600. I do absolutely nothing that a quad would help me out with, so I went for raw clock speed. Not to mention I'll be able to sell my E6600 and recoup a lot of that $$.
Where can I get 0601? It's not on ASUS' site. My E8400 gets here tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Use the latest official non-beta bios: 0605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Cool, thanks. Just loaded 0605 up and all my previous overclocks work fine. Can't wait for my E8400!Quote:
Originally Posted by INTREPID
Hmm i used the 601 bios but i upgraded to 605 and now i got with every cold boot this error message :CPU core to bus ratio or VID config failed , press F1
Only got this with my normal oc ( QX9650 @ 10 x 400 )
I looked in the bios but i dont know what i must change ...
Trouble with Vdroop
I did a pencil mod a while back and had no Vdroop running my E6750. Now that I have a Q6600, I'm getting .01 Vdroop under load. Do I need to add more lead or is the Q6600 just too much for a pancil mod to control?
While some may disagree with this method, I actually used a conductive ink pen to do my vdroop mod. I have ZERO vdroop and my P5E is rock solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
Hello, this is my first post here and I would like to share some results and get some help. I have tried the vdroop mod in my p5e and now I got some confusing results with the vcore of the quad. Before the mod, at 9*333 the q6600 needed 1,264v and 1,224v in idle-load to get stable with prime95, and now needs only 1,200v that is the same in idle and load after the vdroop mod, so I thought the same should happens at higher speed and the quad should need less vcore but don´t.. L. At 8x400 before was 1,288-1,248v and now is stable with 1,264v, and at 8*425 before was 1,376-1,328v and now needs 1,352v, so the temps under load are a bit higher. Mayby someone here have a similar issue and know why this happens. Thanks in advance
I just got myself P5E and Q6600. Is there any BIOS tweak guide for this board? Can I use the Supreme FX II sound card on other boards?
Hello guys, this motherboard has been giving me lots of headaches. The latest bios 0605 seems to have solved the memory error problems. However it seems that my conroe is not running stable with the system. Ive tried 2 e4400 and a q6600 in which would fail prime95. However memtest doesnt return any more errors.
Is it possible that the current bios is to maximise the 45nm compatibility whilst at the same time causing problems for the 65nm ones? Anyone here whose got a q6600 (conroe) that reverted to the 0201 bios and solved their problems? I dont want to keep on messing about this motherboard anymore as i have wasted a lot of time already. Anyone with similar experience would be really helpful.
You've tried 3 CPU's and you still get Prime95 erorrs. Unless they are all overheating (you did check that right), this means there is NOTHING wrong with your CPU (move on to something else).
Memory: Tested OK, but did you try different memory?
Power Supply: Did you test voltages or use a PS tester? Did you try another PS?
Motherboard: You may just have a bad MB
Since you were having memeory problems earlier, the first thing I would do is try different memory.If you were getting memory errors, regardless of bios, something is flakey with your memory. You have to try new memory, just like you tried new CPU's (which I'm sorry to say was really a waste of time because CPU's are rarely ever faulty). Prime95 errors can be caused by memory, motherboard or power supply problems.
Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Leepox
I have tried 2 different memories, ran memtest using a single memory stick each time. The funny thing is my brothers memory instantly shown errors in memtest when i had 05xx BIOS and i put it back to his PC and ran memtest there and the errors were gone. I read that this was not a lone issue as a lot of people seem to have the problem so i updated to the 0607 beta bios, you think the beta bios is causing me issues?
0607 allows all my memory sticks to pass memtest for one cycle at least. However prim95 is my problem now. Small FFT seems to be running ok (that CPU hardcore) for an hour now. But I always fail on the Large and blend test. Im starting to think it cannot be the CPU, It cannot be the memory, and cannot be the PSU since this PSU gave me no problems 2 days ago in my old 650i system.
I guess its time to test 0605 bios and see from there. If i still get problems then I am seriously considering RMAing this board. Jeebus, i am so unlucky with mobos, my last 3 doesnt allow me to reach a good FSB speed at all... and now it gets even worse
Sorry to hear about your problems. It may very well be a bad MB. What brand and model memory have you tried?
You can also try bios 0605 as well as the oldest bios that will support your CPU. Find out from this chart:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...n-us&model=P5E
One more thing to try. Set your dram voltage in the bios to the max voltage written on the label of your memory stick (minus .05). Default voltage may not be enough! I'm assuming that everything else is at default when you've been troubleshooting.
yeah i always put the ram voltage manually, given that this motherboard doesnt have sensors for RAM voltage. Ive tried three different brands, Crucial tracer 8500+, and two 6400 from Geil and Corsair... so would rule out memory definitely. Ive just flashed to 0605 and running prime95 now.. hopefully its will come out alright if it doesnt then RMA the board is all ive got left to do. (well after trying 0201 first anyway.
But the thing is a lot of peoples sigs say they have a q6600 and bios 0605/0602 and theyre running fine with it. Guess im unlucky
My 2x2GB G.Skill DDR2-1000MHz (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ) has been flawless at 1066 and stock VDIMM.
ah crap another prime95 phail...
ah well, ill wait for my new motherboard and see what happens. For now ill leave this motherboard to eat up dust till I RMA it
Hey Brahmzy go here.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
Erik's post at the bottom of the page. Click on Global and you got it.
WZ
With this bios I am stable as can be with 4X1GB of my G.Skill @ my daily clock. This is with 2.12V to the memory.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ticksalive.jpg
This has been for....me.... A very good bios.
Thank you!!! So, do you think I'll have any issues downgrading from 0605 using EZ Flash via USB thumb drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Weldzilla, nice overclock at 4.6Ghz - hope it lasts. Running an E8400 at 1.58v in Windows is crazy IMO. Your CPU will surely degrade. I will admit you have guts. You're in my prayers for sure! Though it's amazing how well the E8400 overclocks - best CPU I've ever owned.
See "E8400 Crapped out! YAY!!!!" Thread:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...d-out-yay.html
Notes: E8400 max recommended operational voltage is 1.365v. Absolute Maximum voltaage is 1.45v after which "neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be severely degraded."*
*Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8000 Series Datasheet
January 2008
A couple processors appear to have gone bad on there own?
I would have to say, "Allegedly", as I wasn't there. I have run these 2 e8400's for 3 months now both at over 1.5488V with no problems. As recently as this week I set new highs on 3D marks and 32M pi.
Contrary to popular belief, "The Sky is not Falling".
Keep them cool and they are just fine.
What do you know of the failed system?
My ? is, what temp did it run at ? idle and load.
How do we know that the guy wasn't running it at 1.7 or higher half the time.
I have found when hardware goes bad most people blame it and just lie about how it happened.
I work on these systems daily. 90% of those who bring me their dead computer have no clue what is wrong and yet they still tell you some B.S. story.
rather than just say they screwed it up.
I have found a penny lodged to the motherboard before. I have found the motherboard and vid card and the whole inside of the case to be sticky from the pop that was spilled down the top fan
hole but they deny it to this day.
My fav. is the guy that called me cuz his system would run for just a few minutes and then restart over and over til it would not go into windows before it would reboot.
I asked him if he kept his case clean and free of dust as this would build up and act as a thermal blanket over the heatsink and processor. He got offended over the phone'
and told me his system was perfectly clean and was regularly cleaned. He hung up on me well the next morning his wife asks if she can drop it off for me just to look at. She needs this computer badly. So, I tell her to drop it by and I will look at it that evening.
This is what I found!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_0005.jpg
Yup just another piece of junk computer that had been a pos for along time.
She knew it was bad cuz it had a stupid Intel processor in it.
Yes it is a Dell with a 2.8C in it. That was over a year ago and it is running fine for them today.
Their 14 year old cleans it monthly as she just loves it...
First Rule it is never the USERS fault, Ever!!! When hardware fails....
Well I chew people's asses regurlarly. I do not need their F'd up systems to make a living so I call them like I see them!!!
And as a rule when hardware dies prematurely it is HUMAN error!!!
whether they admit it or not!
Data sheets mean nothing to me!! what do you expect Intel to say?? They do not want to replace any more proceesors than they have to. They want ti void every warranty possible and so on and so forth... Yey they build you a mother board that will according to their own data sheets, wipe out there precessors. I take all that with a grain of salt
Brahmzy you should have no probs with that just downgrade it with Asus update. By clicking the appropriate tab under options. and just do it in windows. that is how I always perform the task.
I'll just keep running fast and free thankyou.
WZ
DUDE, stop posting pics of my pc.
new beta bios 0607
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
Webzilla, you may be right. But with the 45nm processors being so new I'm just afraid - a scared little sissy boy. But I'm happy with my 4.0Ghz...for now at least. Good Luck with 4.6Ghz. and do let us know if it degrades at all in the future. I guess only time will tell with these E8400's.
That dust ball of a computer is a hoot - I've seen some just as bad in my day.
if i buy the p5e and a xeon e3110 , will the p5e recognize it in 1st boot, or do i need to place like an e6xxx cpu in first to update bios first?
this is going to be my first Intel build since a long time.. so i just want things to work out right at the first time.
The P5E requires bios 0604 (now 0605 non-beta) for the E3110 to be properly recognized. This is the latest bios out so your board will likely not ship with this bios version. Some users had no problems posting with an unsupported CPU (they just received a warning) and they flashed the bios. Others had issues. So, unless someone has used your CPU, who knows.
When I built my system, I got one of these while waiting for the release of E8400. Great to have around for $40: Intel Celeron 420 Conroe-L 1.6GHz (will work with any P5E bios): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116040
Or if you have an old Pentium 4, that will due too.
P5E CPU / Bios Compatability List:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...n-us&model=P5E
alright, thank you intrepid
you say you will pray for my system?? Uh I am praying for yours!!
That some day you will bring it to it's potential.
1st. If you are only going to run 445 fsb why are you running so much v-Core.
2nd. you are running G.Skill 6400HZ on your P5E yet you only run 1:1 with absolutely horrible timings!!!!
Here: I'll show you. Remember I am running 4 sticks of the same 6400HZ as you!! and at these dog slow fsb speeds the mem is just not under much pressure so it is only taking 2.0V to achieve this
We will start with your settings. You won't see much of a difference in pi times at 1M but you will at 32M and you will on the 3D benches.
Here is me emulating you
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/deadtime.jpg
Note that I only need 1.264V to run this 4000mhz speed on my old beat up prossy. Note the cpu score on Aquamrk of just over 23,000
Now if you would at least speed up your mem you would get much more from your system!! At all the same voltage settings.:yepp:
Have a look at this. Note the difference in the pi time is not huge but it still is faster. Then note the cpu score on aquamark and again the low vcore.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dZilla/qqq.jpg.
See what a huge difference the ram speed makes on the cpu score
That is a 1000 point increase and that is huge!!!! You will get the same jump even only on the 5:6.
1:1 setting is the worst thing you can do to your system with this board no matter what bios you use.
Guys if you can't get the high clocks from your processor as you can see here, there are still ways to get more performance from your system.
If you insist on running on the 1:1 try 4-4-4-4 or 4-4-3-4 which will only gain you about a 100cpu points on AQMK3 but it is still a gain.
Now that I am done setuning for show I will be cranking back up to a little more for me, acceptable speed.
As you can see 3 months of thrashing and my processor still runs out smooth on low volts!!
here are my timings for you to try.
5-5-5-6-6-25-6-4 Hit those sub timings too. Play with it a little bit Intrepid you have a good cpu and great memory! :up:
Play with that memory, do not be content with your current settings.
WZ
Thanks for taking the time to give me some tips. I will play around a little and let you know how it goes!
Hey INTREPID you are always in here helping everyone you can. You are alright in my book!!
Alot of people owe you some thanks in this thread.
WZ
So would you guys recommend the new BETA 0607 over the 0605>? Perhaps there are just CPU compatibility in this beta?
INTREPID, is a pretty good egg.
Has anyone gotten wake on lan to work with this motherboard? I have tried everything, but cannot seem to get it to work.. :mad:
Weldzilla,
Unfortunately, boosting my memory speed over 1000 Mhz. (5-5-5-15) results in instabilities with MemTest+ unless I increase vdram over 2.1v That is too high without active cooling, especially since this is Micron D9 based memory. Since this not just a gaming computer, I need to maintain 100% stability. But remember, I'm running 4 of these sticks.
When I attempted your suggested 9x445 with the Ram at 1186 Mhz (5-5-5-15) with 2.1v and NB at 1.45v, MemTest+ failed. I never boot into Windows unless MemTest+ passes.
8 x 500 with the memory at 1000 Mhz. worked well at 5-5-5-15. But are there any benefits or drawbacks in running a 8x multiplier with a 500 Mhz. FSB? Real world benchmarks showed little improvement (PCMark).
Some also believe running the memory 1:1 with the FSB is preferred.
This is what Anandtech has to say about our memory (based on 2 sticks not 4):
G.Skill 2x1GB DDR2-800 CAS4 F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ Kit
We may sound like a broken record, but again we have a set of memory from G.Skill that provides flawless operation across every DDR2 board we have tested with in our labs. The modules are Micron D9 based and offer excellent overclocking capabilities. This memory will run at DDR2-800 3-4-3-8 timings on 2.0V on most boards. These modules also reach speeds up to DDR2-1066 at 4-4-4-12 timings with 2.2V. Our top overclock on the DFI 680i board was DDR2-1160 at 5-5-5-18 timings with 2.30V.
Review of this memory indicating higher voltages required:
http://techgage.com/article/g_skill_...00phu2-2gbhz/2
Anyway, it was fun experimenting some more and I'm quite happy at the moment with a 100% stable overclock.
Hey Intrepid my 4 sticks won't boot at 5-5-5-15 either but they work fine at 5-5-5-8 or 5-5-5-6 or 5-5-5-5 The 15 just kills them. They were never meant to run that loose! With these sticks, if they fail tighten them up!!
My systems are 100% stable also.
My machines run virtually 24/7 helping to add to my income.
I build machines for people, repair them for people, run them for part of my living, and run the welding department for a major port. It all adds up to a living!!
Try different dividers and tighten up the timings. Oh and put a fan over your memory an 80mm if that is all you have bigger if you have it. I use a 120 as it covers my mem and my Northbridge. It will not hurt your system to turn the Northbridge up to 1.55v And it will help stability.
WZ
Never thought about tightening the timings! Sounds counter intuitive, but I'll give it a try right now.
Update: Yes, it worked. I was stable at 1116 Mhz. (using 5-5-5-8 !) at 2.0v. But 1186 Mhz. required higher voltages. Benchmark improvements were relatively minor, so I'm sticking with 890 Mhz. (1:1) at 4-4-4-12 for now. Thanks, it was fun seeing what this memory can do.
This thread and the linked article suggests that higher memory speeds have negligible effects on pc speed: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
My real world bechmarks seem to confirm this (PCMark, 3DMark, PerformanceTest).
I'll throw a thank you to Intrepid, due to his posts I bought some G Skills.
I decided to get a E8400 but my 0107 BIOS wasn't going to work, so last Friday 3/28/08 I flashed to 0605 to see if my existing memory (Corsair 6400C4) was going to function. Only way it would run, was with all RAM timings set to auto, in fact none of the settings used in 0107 would run orthos for more than 10 minutes and the 4:5 mem ratio wouldn't even post. Next I flashed to the Rampage 0219 BIOS, (Why - Good Question), set my settings from 0107, except lowering dram voltage to 2.10v and I'm in Windows no problems. 30 minutes of orthos later I'm feeling confident and drop back into BIOS and start poking around. Find out the Rampage BIOS reads the memory voltage and I see that it reading 2.19+v. I go back to settings and set the men at 2.06v, check it in hardware monitoring, says 2.15+v, boot to Windows another 30 minutes of orthos all is fine. Next I check if all the memory ratios work, everything is fine till I get to 3:4, posts, first screen Windows, BSOD, reboot, change setting in BIOS, posts, can not find system files. Flash back 0107 everything default except RAID set, posts, can not find system files. Repair Windows forgot to load RAID driver, reload Windows, all is back to to the beginning at 5:30 AM. Sunday reloaded Rampage BIOS play around for a few hours, stayed away from the 3:4 ratio, ran everything I'd done with 0107, turned box off and left for work. Friday on the way home I get a speeding ticket, watched my dreams of a E8400 fly out the window as I rolled it down for the CHP. Get home turn on the computer, all settings gone from last week, pull computer out, new battery, replace mem w/G skills, flashed to 0607 everthing working and ready for that now pipe dream E8400.
Do we know what the 0607 BIOS improves?
My result with P5E & P5K-Pro :confused:
P5E (0605) vCore 1,525 (BIOS set) vNB 1,61 - Q9300 max stable at 433x7,5
P5K-Pro (0904) vCore 1,525 (BIOS set) vNB 1,41 - Q9300 max stable at 480x7,5
I 'll try P5K-Deluxe later ;)
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2095/p5ess6.png
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/295/q9300bb6.png
Think the core temp readings are correct tranngo..?
Can someone post the best BIOS setting in the 1st post? I new to ASUS boards and confused with my P5E. I just got a Q6600 but the VID is 1.325V so I'm not sure how to push it to the max.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
im also with 601 bios and E8400
CPU: E8400 @ 4005Mhz (445x9)
NB voltage : 1.43v
Cooler: thermalright Extreme 120
RAM : 4Gb Gskill 8000 PQ @ DDR2-1068Mhz (1.94v set in bios)
work like a charm :
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6...zorthosru6.jpg
:up:
I think you need to update your GPUZ, CPUZ and Realtemp versions :) May give you more accurate results too.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
F6 ERROR SOLUTION
Here is the tested solution to the F6 Storage Driver install error:
"setup cannot copy the file: iastor.sys. To retry, press enter."
=============
After you create the Intel F6 driver disk, Copy (don't move) all files from the root of the floppy to a subfolder on the floppy as follows:
A:/$OEM$/TEXTMODE/
In other words, the driver files with be in the root directory A:\
AND in a subfolder TEXTMODE contained within another folder called $OEM$
This is what the floppy will look like now:
Contents of (A:\)
<$OEM$>
iaahci.cat
iaahci.inf
iastor.cat
iastor.inf
iastor.sys
readme.txt
txtsetup.oem
Contents of A:\$OEM$\TEXTMODE
iaahci.cat
iaahci.inf
iastor.cat
iastor.inf
iastor.sys
readme.txt
txtsetup.oem
Just got my Q9450.
http://mattls.com/pics/q9450.jpg
I get the error message about the CPU being unsupported, please update bios, etc.
I'm on Bios 601, and I'm not sure which one to go to. I'm thinking 605 sounds good, from what I've read in the last few pages. Also the temps are *way* out, like 50° at idle (in Coretemp 0.97.1). My room is 14°, and the q6600 idled at ~20, so I know somethings up. The mount is fine, I did it twice and got the same temps (temps in bios say 32, which I still think is a little warm) and the pattern on the thermal paste looked fine. Could this be a problem with the bios, and my unsupported cpu?
One last thing, could someone link me to somewhere in this thread, to the idiots guide to updating the bios :P
TIA
*edit* Ok, that was easier than I thought. Updated.
Updating the bios is very easy.
Put the unzippped bios file on a USB Drive. Plug the drive in and reboot. Hit DEL to enter the bios or just hit ALT + F2 to go directly to EZ Flash. Don't flash from Windows (it's risky). See Section 4.1.3 of the P5E manual.
Try RealTemp (you may need adjust the positive or negative calibration):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179044
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milamber_au
same thing
regards
Is there no bios that gives more then 1.7v to CPU ?
Before u say 1.7v is already to high , its only for benching en below zero temps.
bios 0607 is pretty good