bad cpu is rare, except where the motherboard fries the cpu. that is fairly common, i've come across that more times than i can count on both hands.
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bad cpu is rare, except where the motherboard fries the cpu. that is fairly common, i've come across that more times than i can count on both hands.
here what i did with this board!
its good
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201537
Hi guys, i just got new memory for my rig, there are OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB, the problem is i cant manage to take them more than 1080 Mhz, next pass it is 1130 Mhz but i get a lot of errors in Memtest86. I used exactly the settings provided by the OCZ stuff for this memory and my Rampage Formula.
By the way my fsb is 450 with multi 8 on my Q9450. Bios is the last version 0410.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...n_CIMG2528.JPG
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...n_CIMG2529.JPG
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...n_CIMG2530.JPG
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...n_CIMG2531.JPG
Any advice how to get at least 1130 Mhz from this memory?
Looks like i just found out some strange information and im looking for some real explanation from OCZ stuff. This is how looks like a screenshot from some real OCZ2FXT11504GK posted on your forum by your stuff (first picture), and now check how looks like the code for my memory (second picture), the code is: OCZ2RPR10662G. I have some pictures with memory, the last 3 pictures are made by me with my phone camera, so basically i paid for OCZ FLEX 2 1150 Mhz and i got some Reaper memory at 1066 Mhz and they look like some Flex 2 and im wondering why they are not working more than 1080 Mhz?
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_stuff_/realone.JPG
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_stuff_/memory.jpg
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_stuff_/(001).jpg
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_stuff_/(006).jpg
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_stuff_/(009).jpg
Thanks for your reply mikeyakame.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
I finally flashed to the 0410 BIOS. Big changes in a good direction. Before with the 0407 BIOS I was getting lots and lots of errors on a pass of MemTest86+ with the GSkill RAM. Now I get about a dozen errors on a pass. But still, there should be zero errors when one runs MemTest86+.
My settings ATM are-
Ai Overclock Tuner ...............Manual
FSB freq ............................333
PCIE .................................101
DRAM freq ..........................DDR2 1066
DRAM command rate ............ 2N
DRAM Timing Control ..............Manual
CAS ................................... 5
RAS to CAS ......................... 5
RAS pre time ....................... 5
RAS ACT time ...................... 15
Ai Clock Twister .................... Lighter
CPU voltage ........................ 1.1375
NB voltage .......................... 1.37
DRAM voltage ...................... 2.1
All other items are on auto or default settings
I have not yet tried the OCZ Reaper RAM I have.
:cool:
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Oh, ...
I forgot to say ...
The failing address of the memory according to the MemTest86+ error list is always 00000000000. No matter which test; no matter what pattern; whether I used the OCZ RAM or the GSkill RAM ... the failing address would always be 00000000000.
Hope that gives a clue.
:cool:
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Did you try to disable USB legacy in the BIOS and check whether you still have those errors?Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler
I hope this helps you, I have read some of your posts and know you have been jumping through hoops to get up and running. I had no problems with my Rampage Formula at all, except for being too poor to come up with the cash to buy everything all at once. I ended up with the G.Skill PC28000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145 simply to save money so I could finally get my system up and running. Going from a P4 3.2, Visiontek 850XT PE AGP to an E8600 with a Visiontek 4870 was quite a jump for me.
Good luck, hopefully all will come together and you will be up and running soon!
From:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
"Asus uses some of the system RAM to cache data for the code to handle legacy USB devices, while memtest is running some of that day may change or be moved by the BIOS, which in turn causes it to be different than when memtest is expecting to see hence the error. This isn't a real error though, the system has simply moved the data to a different part of RAM and re-pointed the memory address to that location, however memtest needs complete control of all the RAM to be accurate so it sees the change as corrupt data.
As AL said, disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things. If legacy USB is disabled and you still get errors, well then you've got an issue and we'll help you solve it."
"It's just easier for most people to turn it off and test instead of running a few passes over a number of hours to see it fail because they forgot one of their devices was USB 1.1."
From:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...=184503&page=5
"For everyone to know.
I had multiple errors with memtest86+, always at address '00000000000 - 0.0MB'.
I disabled USB Legacy in BIOS and the errors vanished.
It seems to be a known trick but I think its great to mention it again in this thread.
I run bios (0401) btw."
Quote:
Originally Posted by flylow
:toast::toast::toast::party::bounces::bounces: :bounces:
I owe you a six pack flylow!!!!!!! :up: Thanks heaps Bud!!! :toast: Yours was the post that did it!!!!!
This was it: "....disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things." Plus, of course, the explanation as to why. :up:
I now have the OCZ Reaper PC2 8500 RAM in the slots. And I now keep turning down the voltage on the RAM, the voltage on the Northbridge, and the voltage on the CPU now ... And I now keep getting zero errors each time !!!!!!! :ROTF: I'm lovin' it!
:cool:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler
Awesome!! Glad it worked. Luckily I only had USB 2.0 devices running otherwise I would have been dealing with the same issue. Thank google, a search for "MemTest86 error 00000000000" provided the answer. I did not have clue one but definately will remember about USB 1.1 on Asus motherboards messing with memtest.
My system is not in a case yet, been running it on a table, still researching cases for next month. I just cannot quite squeeze it in my old case with the Radeon 4870. Then a new monitor in a another month or two. Somewhere in there I will probably buy some G.Skill or Mushkin PC2-8500 to replace my G.Skill PC2-8000. Still using my old Audigy 2 soundcard, sounds better than the almost soundcard that Asus gives with the Rampage Formula, IMO.
Anyway glad that you seem to finally be up and running. Have fun.
Hello all, took a bit of time for my account to become active but have been following this thread for a while now. I have the RF paired up with an E8400, 2x2GB Gskill, and a 4870x2 and have been collecting the info from here before I tweak it.
One question though before I dive in. My wife is now in need of a new PC and I was thinking of dropping the 8400 into her PC and getting something else for the RF. What would you all recommend?
Thanks.
Q9550 or Q9650
nothing wrong with another E8400 or a E8500 that go for cheap nowdays
Q9650, i would LOVE to have a 9X multi on my Q9450.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
That 4870x2 tells me you're a gamer; get an E8600 and get her to 4.5Ghz easy for your 24/7. Should give you some nice FPS boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Locutis
Quads are better for most newer games, even if clocked lower than a dual.
Based on what? (sorry for OT, but I'm interested in the reasoning)Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Please spare us! There are a multitude of quad versus dual posts in most, if not all forums already. Intel is ahead of AMD at the time so we are spared that old argument. The Nividia versus ATI has died down, at least until the next product cycle. How about Ford versus Chevy? Or chocolate ice cream versus vanilla ice cream? Blondes versus brunettes? Beer versus whiskey (or Canadian whiskey versus Kentucky whiskey).
There must be something else to post about instead of dual versus quad...
Yeah dude, but everone's got a theory these days!Quote:
Originally Posted by flylow
Sooner or late one must simply choose and move on, unless of course you have the bucks to try out both and decide for yourself. Down the road I plan on buying a quad just to see if there is much difference for what I do. But there are already so many posts about quad versus dual that it is pretty much pointless to bring it up again. Unless of course someone starts an "official" quad versus dual thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
:CTF:
True enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by flylow
TBH I've had too much wine.
:off:Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Be careful of overindulging in wine, worst hangovers I ever had were from wine drunks. Good Canadian Whiskey seems to be the beverage of choice for me.
:sick:
You need to be more specific. I'm not going to start a debate here. Unless the game is capable of using all four cores, EFFICIENTLY, it's no contest. Notice I was very specific in telling him what speficially he'll gain if he clocked a E8600 to 4.5Ghz. Even a quad clocked at 4Ghz is only good in synthetic benchmarks in terms of raw procesing power, nothing else. However a dual-core at 4.5 ghz while being easier on board components, also churns at faster clock cycles which is very good for all games. The higher overclock also translates into higher bus, faster ram reads, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
I just went through this after reading threads on quad vs dual till my eyes bleed. I finally decided to get an E8600 to replace my old Q6600 last week. I easily overclocked it to 4.4gig without any extreme volts. It will go much farther but for 24/7 that's enough for me (440X10). I have a 4870X2 and game a lot. THE DIFFERENCE (READ THAT IMPROVEMENT) IN GAMING AND GENERAL PERFORMANCE WAS MASSIVE! You can read all the threads you want on this but my own experience in gaming is that its no contest. The overclocked E8600 with the 4870X2 makes my games fly. No substitute for personal experience. My Q6600 was at 3.3gig and can't come close to the performance in gaming of the overclocked E8600. Case closed for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
G.Skill 1066s with E8600:
4 cores are better than 2, 8 cores are better than 4, 16 cores are better than 8.... I hope I don't have to go on.
In some cases, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by arisythila
4 cores... running at what frequency?Quote:
Originally Posted by arisythila
Many, many compliments! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Which strap have you used and which voltage on NB?
Can you post a list of yours BIOS settings?
Thanks,
I posted this on the wrong thread yesterday. I had a lot of issues with my DFI X38 and the Q9400. Bottom line is that I could not get it to oc past 3.2GHz. After dropping it in a friends rampage and seeing it go prime stable at 3.7GHz, I have decided to pull the trigger on a Rampage Formula ROG mobo since I want to go crossfireX later this year. I have a couple of questions about this mobo. Is the stock nb/sb cooler good enough after removing the stock paste and replacing with AS5 or do I need 3rd party coolers? How is the supremesound module that comes with it? I am ready to dump my x-fi xtrememusic because of endless issues. Also are there any issues using the RAM that is listed in my sig? And last but not least, which bios seems to be the preferred bios with a Q9400 and G Skill memory?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
I am currently using the stock heatsink setup. I did replace the stock thermal material with Ceramique on the Northbridge and the Southbridge. I have a Antec SpotFan mounted and aimed over the Northbridge heatsink. And I have a Yate Loon high volume 120 case fan aimed over and at the Southbridge from about eight inches away just sitting at the bottom of my case at the far edge of the hard drive rack area by the case side. The Yate Loon is there blowing onto the Southbridge only temorarily during building. The air flow directly onto the Southbridge is needed. Temps are the same for the North and South bridges for me. At startup they are 34C. After warming to idle they are 37C. At load under BioShock (the only app I have installed ATM) they are 42C. Hope this info helps you.
I ran the onboard sound for a while. There is no EAX support with the onboard soundcard. What issues were you having with your X-Fi card?
:cool:
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I have amountain mod cube case so I have 3x120mm fans that are blowing from front to back across the motherboard so that should take care of that. The sound card loses surround speaker for no reason intermittently. Also intermittently I can't change mode from game to entertainment. Somtimes I get crackling from the speakers. I have rebuilt my windows many times and tried many different drivers. I have just had it with this card.
Yeah the SupremeFX 2 is a dog . mine works better on the Marvel native drivers than the Asus driver I'm getting the new Asus Zonar HDMI card as soon as the reports come back on how it REALLY is .... Creative cards just suck ...
Xonar HDMI card is simply like a daughterboard card used with the Xonar D2X Ultra or the likes. It's not a pure sound card on its own.
I have a question about the raid controller. I have 2 raid 0 arrays right now. When I went from the P35 with the ich9r controller to the x38 with the ich9r controller, I enabled raid in the bios settings and it detected the arrays without me having to rebuild them. Are the chance good that I won't have to create the arrays again(thus wiping my data) when switching to the rampage formula?
Nope it's a NEW sound card ..unlike the previos Xonar DX2 cardsQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
check out these links
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=11638
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9050/a...rds/index.html
http://www.planetx64.com/index.php?o...1284&Itemid=21
actually has it's own processor on board ,the Splendid HD chip .
& the card offers Swappable Operational Amplifiers
Yeah I think soo as it did for my switch from a P5E(x38) to a R/F(x48)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
it even keeps the raid array when i reformated the HHD's on a fresh Vista64 instal on the R/F last week
Thanks for the info. I am running backups anyway just in case. It takes a couple of hours to backup all of the data but better safe than sorry. I got the board in this morning. I removed stock cooler to replace the thermal paste. Man I thought the workers the put the heatsinks on the dif mobo's were bad. Both the NB and the SB had thermal paste and a thermal pad on them. So I removed and put as5 on the nb and ac on the sb. Since the heatsink looks nice I thought I would try the stock one before thinking of pulling it for my aftermarket coolers. I should have it up and running this evening. One last question here. I see tha there are 8 fan connectors on the motherboard. That seems like quite a bit. I always went by the rule of not connecting a 120mm fan to the mobo. Is it safe to connect a 120mm fan to this motherboard?
Good question! I should have asked Asus tech support that one when I had them on the phone a few weeks back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
I'm with you on this one. Only my CPU fan is plugged into the MB ATM. Why stress the motherboard circuits when you can plug a fan directly into the PSU.
Anyone have multiple fans plugged into the MB?
:cool:
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Wow thats nice, guess I've found my next sound card then! I was under the impression it was a daughterboard type card, guess it's not after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
I got he board installed last night. I put a 40mm fan on the nb to just help the air circulate a little more. After my new windows build I will start oc'ing and see how far I can get. I had to update to the 0410 bios to stop the unknown cpu error on post.
Hopefully you can help me out. I have a Q9400 that I know will do 3.6GHz on air(It was in aP35 mobo and did that).So far I have not been able to get prime stable past 3.52GHz. I am going to post my settings and I hope you can give me some tips.
Multi and FSB - 8x438
RAM - 1052MHz @ 5-5-5-15(the ram is stable thru 1075)
All DRAM Skews - Auto
DRAM Static Read Control - Auto
Ai Clock Twister - Auto
Ai Transaction Booster - Auto
CPU Voltage - 1.3v(reading @ 1.280v)
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.54v(reading@ 1.632v)
NB Voltage - 1.39v(reading@ 1.408v)
DRAM Voltage - 2.0v(reading@2.064v)
FSB Termination Voltage - 1.28v(reading@ 1.216v)
South Bridge Voltage - 1.075v(reading@ 1.104v)
SB 1.5 Voltage - Auto(reading@ 1.552v)
Loadline Calibration - Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference - 0.67x
NB GTL Voltage Reference - 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF - Auto(reading@ 1.040v)
DRAM Channels A and B Voltage REF - Auto
fan ports are rated for 24W max, but i wouldnt run more then 1 fan off each port.Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler
From what I've been reading lately, you might want to do some tweaking of your GTLs. Try 0.63 for the CPU and see if that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
I will try that and see how it does.
I tried a lower GTL Ref but the system was no longer stable. I put the GTL Ref back to 0.67x and then bumped the vcore up to 1.31250v(reading@ 1.288v). With this vcore bump I am now prime stable for 4 hours now at 3.6GHz(8x450). In roder to do this at this voltage I have the LLC enabled. I have read a few threads on this and basically my best understanding of it is that controls the vdroop. I have alsways looked for vdroop mods if there is a lot of droop on a motherboard. I found on this one with the LLC disabled and the vcore set at 1.31250v the actual voltage is at 1.256v which isn't stable even at 3.5GHz. I have decided to the leave the LLC enabled as I am an overclocker and frying a cpu is the chance I take everytime I run a cpu at other than spec speed and settings. Tomorrow I will try upping the vcore to 1.4v and turn off LLC and see how high I can get this chip.
Okay I got my cpu stable at 3.7GHz. I would like to turn to the ram at this point. I have DDR2 1000 ram but because of the bus speed the strap I have to use puts it at 900MHz. What should i do adjust other than the ram timings for improvement with this mobo? I have the settings listed above but I have changed the DRAM Static Control to disabled. These are the scores I am getting in everest right now and I am not sure how good they are:
Memory Read 7693 MB/s
Memory Write 9765 MB/s
Memory Copy 7553 MB/s
Memory Latency 67.6 ns
Enable DRAM Static Control, AI Clock Twister to Strong or Stronger, Manual AI Transaction Booster -> Common Performance Level [06], vNB to around 1.53 or 1.55V, NB GTLREF to 0.63 or 0.62x. vTT to real voltage of 1.40-1.42V.
tRFC = 60 or 65
tRRD (Act to Act Delay ) = 3,
tRTPD (Read to Precharge Delay) = 3
tALL_PRE_TO_ACT / tALL_PRE_TO_REF = 4 or 5.
tWR (write recovery) = 4
tWTPD (write to precharge delay) = 10 or 11 (tWR + tWL (tRL or tCWD [ tCAS - 1 ]) + BL/2 [ 8 / 2 == 4 ] ) note BL aka burst latency is always 8, so BL/2 always equals 4.
tPTP (PRE to PRE delay) = 1
tRTW (Read to Write delay same rank) = 6 or 7
tWTR (write to read delay same rank) = 5 ( in everest tWR [total receovery time ] = tWR + tWTR )
tWR_RD_DR (write to read delay diff rank) = 4
tRTR (read following burst read same rank) = 4
tRD_RD_DR (read following burst read diff rank) = 6
tWTW (write following burst write same rank) = 4
tWR_WR_DR (write following burst write diff rank) = 6
tRAS (row activation strobe period) = 11 (tWR + tRCD + tCAS)
tCAS (column address strobe) = 4
tRTP (read to precharge) = 3
tRCD (row activation to column strobe delay) = 3
vDIMM = 2.0-2.2V or so. This should be pretty damn quick at 900MHz.
Might not all work off the mark but you should get it working with a little adjustment to the values or slightly higher vDIMM. Use memtest86+ before booting into OS to get memory timings stable first. Run test #5 in memtest86+ which you can run manually through the configure menu once it boots. [ C -> Tests -> Manual test -> 05 -> 0 (ok)
Thanks. I will work from there.
I noticed this warning in my event log from earlier today. It was a WHEA Logger error. The ram is good. Could it be the nb voltage too low for the high fsb I am using?
A corrected hardware error occurred.
Error Source: Corrected Machine Check
Error Type: Bus/Interconnect Error
Processor ID Valid: Yes
Processor ID: 0x3
Bank Number: 5
Transaction Type: N/A
Processor Participation: Generic
Request Type: Generic Error
Memory/Io: Generic
Memory Hierarchy Level: Generic
Timeout: No
Could be to do with vDIMM actually. make sure Memtest86+ completes a full pass free of errors. If it does it is more than likely vNB
Just in case anyone is interested in knowing, my 3ware 9650SE Raid card works with the 4010 bios. When I first flashed the bios and rebooted, I had a dead system (which scared me a little bit). I turned off the system, unplugged the power, reset cmos, and switched my RAID card to the top PCI-E Slot (where I normally put my graphics card) and put my graphics card on the bottom slot. Viola! It posted and I have no issues. :clap:
It does not post with the raid card in the bottom PCI-E.
Hi, im a bit curious if everyone else has my issue.
Does everyones NB and SB leds briefly flash red before going back to normal when restarting/turning on their systems? CPU and Memory leds stay green throughout.
Ill check today, i haven't noticed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier7
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThugsRookfan ports are rated for 24W max, but i wouldnt run more then 1 fan off each port.Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler
Thugs!!!!! Is that you??? :eek:
You have a Rampage Formula now?
:cool:
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just did a 3DMark06 run with my new Q9650 @ 4 GHz = 22666
http://service.futuremark.com/result...&resultType=14
I was curious. What kind of overclocks are people able to get on this mobo with a Q6600 G0?
i've got 2 rampage, one with a q6600 and the other with a q6700. both are running 3.6 ghz (450x8) and both can run up to 500 fsb (with x7 multi) very easily, but temps are stopping me from get higher clockQuote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
same here. I run my G0 at 3.45ghz 24/7 at 1.4375v in bios which equates to ~ 1.42v with LLC. Temps are the holding back factor especially since it gets hot here in AU in summer, plenty of headroom for voltage left. 55-58C full load on all cores is high enough for everyday stuff. I can run 3.6 but temps aren't manageable under 100% load for long periods.
Could someone do a quick check for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier7
Sorry for being a bother, but I would like to know if this is any indication of an impending problem since my last board wouldn't boot and every LED stayed lit up to red.
Same here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier7
1) When restarting/shutting off/turning on system, NB and SB LEDs briefly flash red then go back to green.
2) CPU and Memory LEDs stay green with CPU LED briefly turning off then staying on.
cOULD JUST be safety implementation by ASUS to prevent instaneous voltage spikes damaging the NB or SB when they are switched on and off. Perhaps they aren't as resilient to overshoot as CPUs or RAM dimms are. If you spike the SB too high, it would most likely replicate the overshoot spike across to the output reference voltage for SATA devices which could toast a controller on any of your drives. Way uncool. CPU and Memory data are both volatile and thus overshooting at worst might wipe volatile CMOS data, which isn't the end of the world at worst.
I figure that when the system starts up, a brief "spike" occurs at the NB and SB which reaches red LED levels before the board is able to detect proper voltage settings and bring it back down to green.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
This does not seem like a safe way to handle voltages IMO and may damage the board in the long run.
Are you or anyone else experiencing similar LED bahavior?
Instaneous voltage is controlled by the vrm pull down circuitry. Asus implementation of load line calibration which is not Intel specification may be the reason they use this method as a safety net for overshoot by design specs.
So you have similar LED behavior on your board as well?
Probably, I've never really taken much notice of the LED behaviour to tell you the truth. I had nearly completely forgot that the board had them! I suppose they have some usefulness for open benching, but for case use I can't even see them without taking the effort to open my case up. That involves unplugging the fan door and manuveuring it for visual access since it sits in the space between my desk and the wall with a shelf on top! I'll try and have a look later today to see what mine does. I need to give the case a vacuum for dust anyway.
Thanks for taking the time to check, greatly appreciate it. I had a bad experience with my first board (no boot) where all the LEDs remained red.
I think you guys are over reacting; this thing's been there since day one. Remember that Asus implemented color-coding LEDs to indicate voltages across the spectrum of lights; when the board is powered up at first, all the lights come on, then depending on what voltages you're running, the board switches to that color code; it is just an indicator, and not representative of the current going through your components. Otherwise, the question is what particular voltage range is represented by red/gold/green? It is just a delayed effect, while the bios detects power imput and adjusts regulators. This detection and adjustment needs to happen.
Thanks for the explanation. You are correct that the LEDs display all 3 colors before switching back to the proper color setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
However when rebooting, only my memory LEDs remain green (no gold/red display) while the NB and SB flash all 3 colors.
I would still like to know if my board is consistent with others. No harm in checking! ;)
0410 bios is looking good.
Have running q9450 @3.6 (in bios: 1.3125 vcore (1.3 real), 1.56 cpu pll, 1.55 nb, fsb term 1.4, cpu gtl 0.67x) - OCCT 1 hour stable + prime25 10hours stable (large FFTs).
Will be working on lowering volts where possible. Any ideas where to start? :)
Edit.
Currently testing: 1.29375 vcore (1.28 real), 1.56 cpu pll, 1.49 nb (1.5 in everest), fsb term 1.34 (1.3 in everest), gtl 0.67x)
Edit2.
Alright, here is what I have achieved today: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...erpila4.th.jpghttp://img300.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
OCCT stable, MemTest 1 full run - no errors. Overnight Prime25 is coming. Tell me what you think.
Settings in bios:
1.29375 vcore, 1.56 cpu pll, 1.49 nb, 2.02 DRAM, fsb term 1.36, cpu gtl 0.67x.
Happy. :)
Ok could somebody give me a kick in the right direction to get 3.8 or more?
This is a SS from my 3.6 OC (FSB 424, 8.5 multi), only things what are changed are the VCore (1.30625V) and the NB V (1.43V) for my 3.7 stable OC.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...4092008244.jpg
I already tried to raise the VCore to 1.34 ish ,the NB to 1.49V and the FSB termination towards 1.24V to try to get 3.8 (FSB 448, 8.5 multi).
Without succes, OCCT failed within 2 minutes.
I know im running pretty safe voltages trough everything and i dont really want to push it so what can be tryed best first?
Thanks in advance.
I little more FSBT is required. Plus some vcore perhaps. CPU GTL to 63, NB GTL to 67. A little more NBv might be required too. Start with the GTLs then the FSBT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earzz
Does anyone know how to disable that hard drive LED just above sata 1 and 2? It's bright and catches my eye all the time which can be distracting.
Buy a X2 it will cover the led :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
Nah to be serious, i think you cant disable it.
Blind it with a marker you can always clean it or just put the MB in a case :)
@ sofarfrome
THX for the info ill try that this weekend when i have a bit more time.
Just installed a TRUE with dual S-Flex's and so far im pretty happy with it so the clocks finally can go up :)
BTW are these temps any good on air??
With my old cooler i never completed a IBT run because the temps went above 71c within three seconds.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...R/Knipsel2.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0092008264.jpg
Pretty sure the temps will go above the 71c with higher clocks but i will only run Prime after a higher OC.
Well the Q9400 that I have been using seems to oc as good as or a little better than the Q6600 cpu's. Tomorrow I will finally have my hands on a Q9650 that I have been saving for. I am hoping it will be my first cpu to hit 4GHZ. I will be running it on this rampage mobo. I will let you know how it goes. So far I am very pleased with this mobo.
what is the average fsb that I should expect on air with a dual core?
how about with a quad core?
how good is the crossfire performance compared to a p45 motherboard (like p5q deluxe) using 2 4850s?
is the 16-phase on the p5q deluxe better for a higher cpu overclock?
PM me & i'll send my settings for 4Ghz it was easy ! with that MoBo & Q9650Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
1. Have a read through the thread and see what others have achieved. Don't be lazy and make users repeat themselves for everybody who is too lazy to use search.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoTech
2. Performance is better. Both slots at 16x electrical on the X48, where as the P45 drops each slot to 8x electrical on dual card cause the P45 only has 16 PCI-E 2.0 electrical lanes.
3. VRM is plenty fine on the RF for high dual core FSB, i'm positive many guys can push 600MHz FSB. The P5Q has a slightly stronger VRM when it comes to OC'ing quads.
I hear that some PPl are having problems with 16 phase power & the Quads ...
Quads have problems with everything! LOL, the RE and Blackops seem to be the best two boards out there for Quads and silly high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
Ok asus is starting to piss me off badly!
I bought my Rampage Formula 2 months ago knowing that it is a great motherboard. When i received my board i used it for a week out of the case to get to know the motherboard. After that i started building it into my cosmos s. Guess what?! It blew a capacitor (or how you might call it) and the entire board quit working (after hitting the on switch!)
So ofcourse i rma'd the motherboard and this is the response i got from them:
Because of faulty overclocking we can not repair your board or send you a new one.
Well.... that's all good if i had actually overclocked on the board... but i didn't even get to that point!
Here is a photo of the chip that was blown up:
http://www.coolclocks.nl/datas/users...ge_formula.png
Is there any way i can directly contact asus instead of contacting my distributor that contacts asus for me... I dont' really get the feeling they are trying very hard to convince asus that this is not my fault....
what about sending their taiwan branch an email?
Contact motherboardpro, when I had my LLC issue, I contacted them, and they put me in direct contact with a very helpful asus rep. I even said I was overclocking, and they were fine with that, and said that they set up a system similar to mine and used the same bios settings (overclocked!) but could not reproduce my issue. In the end, I got an advance RMA and it worked out perfectly.
I LOVE THIS FORUM!
Somehow my shop owner read this page and got a little scared that i might put their name up here.
So he made a call with asus and my motherboard is not rma'ed and a new one is on it's way (will be send out tomorrow).
Thanks for the help guys!
Amazing the power of the XS forums !Quote:
Originally Posted by Remcokatz
As long as we keep it civil & repectful in our complaints about Vendors . By stating fully the whole facts from the start , asking about remedies on how to solve problems,It really does make a difference . The best advertizing is word of mouth & that is a 2-way street both negative & positive . Any Vendor that wants to keep customers coming back will heed this forum . As i've RMA'ed a R/F back to Asus & had a new MoBo back in my hands in less than 7 days
Good job on everyone's part , including the Vendor , it's good business to support the product you sell & it's good For businesses/buyers to report problems supported with facts .
@ Remcokatz >> Great to hear you have a MoBo coming to you ..
I'm quite happy about it yes.
I sent you a pm bigslappy. I got my Q9650 installed and i got it stable at 4.02GHZ. But I had to set the vcore to 1.3625v(reading @ 1.3v) to overcome the vdroop(drops to 1.26-1.27) when under load. I set LLC to auto. I may try it with the vdroop control enabled.
here's my SS counldn't PM
LLC is disabled
this an early O/C
as i haven't really had the time to fine tune this O/C .
I'm really letting it burn-in for awhile @ 4ghz
I suggest u let the CPU burn in a few day's before pushing it HARD too early ' I let mine idle at stock settings for the 1st 24 hours' or u could damage it
;p
CPUZ show a clock speed as 4050.1MHz
multi 9
bus speed 450
FSB 1800
real temp 33,29,33,33 idle ambiant 26.2 c
core Voltage 1.336 idle
realtemp load temps 46,40,43,43 prime 95 ambiant temp 26.2 c
core volts under prime 95 load 1.296
LLc disabled
memory
dram freq. 450.0
FSB;dram 1 to 1
clocks as set in bios
I can't stress enuff not to push the CPU until u burn it in for awhile
these are some Cherry CPU's coming out of Intel right NOW ! & they are not gonna be around very long as Intel has already said that these are to be phased out after SOON the Core i7 chips hit the market
check out this thread on the News forum
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=202014
Intel is sayin they don't want to compete with it's self on some of their best chips with the NEW Core i7's
I got a strange problem, after weeks of stability on my computer, I noticed this, quite recently.
When I plug my ipod touch in (or take it out), it crashes my system.
Any ideas? I've not overclocked my PC at all...
Thanks.
Have you upgraded iTunes to 8.01?Quote:
Originally Posted by phillai
It seems that some driver in Itunes 8.00 is hurting many configurations.
Just a suggestion.
Quick question to anyone with a crossfire setup on this board, similar setup to mine. I can run 3.6GHZ prime blend stable with single card, but when i put the other card in, my NB temps rise and 3.2ghz is all prime blend wants to be stable at. I know NB temp raise is from crossfire, but temps are fine, i have 4 120mm fans on the side of my HAF 932, also the NB is cooled by a Thermaltake Spirit II cooler, any ideas??? thanks.
more vNB? lol and loosen Performance Level by 1.
Your rig screams for water. If you get 3.6GHz on air with a q9450, you just might hit 4ghz on water, with lower volts to boot (on the nb at least).Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Hi Guys... Is There Any Improvement For 0410Bios
Currently Using 0407
Thanks...
I tried that, ill mess with it some more today after work, see what i can come up with, its very wierd to me, but im sure it has something to do with the nb, when i raise the voltage to around 1.49v it fails instantly, when i lower it, it fails within 2 minutes, so higher voltage is a no go, very mysterious behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
Also im using Bios 0308 as its the best for memory performance. I have tried 0408 results are the same. Any help from someone who has dealt with the same situation is much appreciated, thanks.
Nope, I haven't but I will give that a try, thank you very much! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
I get from Asus support the new 501 BIOS that would correct the "no boot" issue with many PCIe RAID disk controllers.
I will test it tonight and let you know.
Probably it wil be published very soon in usual channels.
cant you upload it somewhere for rest of us ? ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Brama
By sure, as soon as I tested it on my rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Expect the link in 3 hours ;)
i also would appreciate if you could share this bios with us
- even it does not work as expected for you
(having lot of troubles with my adaptec controller)
Here the link! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chris8325
By the way, it solved my issue with my PCIe RAID disk controller. :)
I haven't any responsability for troubles or damages caused by this BIOS in your systems.