Live MB OC Report :: ASUS Rampage Extreme

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Well tonight I found it's definitely an issue with my RAM.

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simply adjusting the memory ratio doesn't just adjust the memory frequency. you are potentially running on a different strap and each ratio works in a different manner. i wouldn't be 100% sure it is your memory. it is likely, but no guarantee that it still isn't the MCH setup properly.

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Originally Posted by RLM

What bothers me though are your voltages and temps. Why can I bench my qx9650 at 485x9.5 with 1.55v NB on the 790i and you need 1.67v for 430 x 10.

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you can't compare voltages across two different chipsets...different ballgames, different sports even. keep in mind, he is also running 4x2GB which is going to require more work on the MCHs part. perhaps the reason for the high vMCH. with that said, yes, a lot of those voltages in his setup are rather high.

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you can't compare voltages across two different chipsets...different ballgames, different sports even. keep in mind, he is also running 4x2GB which is going to require more work on the MCHs part. perhaps the reason for the high vMCH. with that said, yes, a lot of those voltages in his setup are rather high.

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i take your chipset comment on board. The reason I'm sticking it back in the 790i, is that I wanted to see whether my cpu had degraded or not. I had similar results on the P5E3 Deluxe to the Rampage regarding required volts and stability. For instance 4.2 ghz at 1.42v would pass OCCT on the 790i. 4.2 on the Rampage requires 1.485 to get small FTT even going without bluescreen.

Sure thing 30h6, my comments are more questions really rather than statements. Yes I haven't really worked that much with 2 x 2GB so I can see your point. We know that 1.35v for VTT is the max safe for 45nm cpus, but still want to know about PLL?

RLM

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Originally Posted by 3oh6

simply adjusting the memory ratio doesn't just adjust the memory frequency. you are potentially running on a different strap and each ratio works in a different manner. i wouldn't be 100% sure it is your memory. it is likely, but no guarantee that it still isn't the MCH setup properly.

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Same strap, different divider.

All of this is on the 333 strap so far. I will do some more testing tonight when I get my new GPU installed.

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Originally Posted by RLM

We know that 1.35v for VTT is the max safe for 45nm cpus

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and by VTT you mean the vFSB? or FSB Termination Voltage as in RE's bios?

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Originally Posted by RLM

i take your chipset comment on board. The reason I'm sticking it back in the 790i, is that I wanted to see whether my cpu had degraded or not. I had similar results on the P5E3 Deluxe to the Rampage regarding required volts and stability. For instance 4.2 ghz at 1.42v would pass OCCT on the 790i. 4.2 on the Rampage requires 1.485 to get small FTT even going without bluescreen.

Sure thing 30h6, my comments are more questions really rather than statements. Yes I haven't really worked that much with 2 x 2GB so I can see your point. We know that 1.35v for VTT is the max safe for 45nm cpus, but still want to know about PLL?

RLM

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Has this been proven definitively, or is it a theory?

I know BenchZowner was running some tests on this to give us more data.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=198614

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Has this been proven definitively, or is it a theory?

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Good point, maybe should have worded that differently. I was lead to believe there had been tests done on Anandtech, and they found or suspected atleast that using 1.4v+ on VTT or FSB termination ran a risk of killing 45nm chips.

I know personally, and yes taking the different chipsets into account, I have never needed more that 1.4v VTT. That's with my Qx running up to 4.9+ghz

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I was under the impression this was common knowledge.

RLM

As for the Rampage overclocking issues and voltages I may well have been hasty in my suspicions. It was certainly worthwhile putting the chip back in my EVGA.

Firstly I under estimated the heat output from my 4870x2. Previously I had my QX and volt modded 9800 GX2 in the same loop. However I had two Radiators the PA 120.3 and a Swiftech MCR220.

This time I have the QX and 4870x2 in the same loop, but with just the PA 120.3. It seems that at load I'm about 5-8 degrees hotter with this setup. This is obviously going to have a bit of an impact on my overclocking. I'm also suspecting that my QX isn't in as good shape as it used to be.

Doing a bit more testing now but in XP

RLM

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Originally Posted by RLM

Good point, maybe should have worded that differently. I was lead to believe there had been tests done on Anandtech, and they found or suspected atleast that using 1.4v+ on VTT or FSB termination ran a risk of killing 45nm chips.

I know personally, and yes taking the different chipsets into account, I have never needed more that 1.4v VTT. That's with my Qx running up to 4.9+ghz

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I was under the impression this was common knowledge.

RLM

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As far as I know, Anandtech based their conclusion on one chip. It's a good theory by them, but wasn't conclusively proven. Nonetheless, you're right in that if you don't need more than that to acheive your clocks, the point is moot.

Anyway, I'm going to try for some more high FSB tonight with the RAM downclocked and see what results I get.

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Originally Posted by zlojack

As far as I know, Anandtech based their conclusion on one chip. It's a good theory by them, but wasn't conclusively proven. Nonetheless, you're right in that if you don't need more than that to acheive your clocks, the point is moot.

Anyway, I'm going to try for some more high FSB tonight with the RAM downclocked and see what results I get.

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Precisely. Anandtech based the whole article on a single CPU failure, and concluded it was absolute and conclusive prove that subjecting your CPU with over 1.4V VTT and IT WILL DIE.

Failure indeed. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Precisely. Anandtech based the whole article on a single CPU failure, and concluded it was absolute and conclusive prove that subjecting your CPU with over 1.4V VTT and IT WILL DIE.

Failure indeed. :rolleyes:

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What's worse it that it's been taken as gospel and spread around to the point that many now accept it as a proven fact.

I'm not the most knowledgable or experienced overclocker around, but I do know enough not to accept one result as a hard and fast rule.

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Precisely. Anandtech based the whole article on a single CPU failure, and concluded it was absolute and conclusive prove that subjecting your CPU with over 1.4V VTT and IT WILL DIE.

Failure indeed.

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So 1.4vtt+ is okay then?

RLM

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Originally Posted by RLM

So 1.4vtt+ is okay then?

RLM

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I haven't seen a conclusive answer one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by RLM

So 1.4vtt+ is okay then?

RLM

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As with all overvoltage, the risks increases as you add more, but there are no definite and absolute "safe" voltages in any category of overclocking. I've put through 1.5V VTT through my QX9650 on the Maximus Extreme for over 6 months before I realised it wasn't needed, and it is still as meh as the first day I received it. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by RLM

I had similar results on the P5E3 Deluxe to the Rampage regarding required volts and stability. For instance 4.2 ghz at 1.42v would pass OCCT on the 790i. 4.2 on the Rampage requires 1.485 to get small FTT even going without bluescreen.

Sure thing 30h6, my comments are more questions really rather than statements. Yes I haven't really worked that much with 2 x 2GB so I can see your point.

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you may not be too off on your assessment of the 790i...i too have found the 790i to require less voltage for equal overclocks to other boards. it might be the 790i reporting lower volts but even when measured with a DMM, it seemed to clock higher at less voltage than other boards. my experiences are all with dual cores but it might be the same type of thing you are seeing with quads. nothing crazy but enough to notice type thing.

as for 2gb sticks, i haven't spent a lot of time with them on the RE but he is running 4x2GB which has to be the reason for the high vMCH needed. again, just an assumption based on known information from others that have. i have no need to ever run 4x1Gb let alone 4x2GB so i won't be spending any time testing any time soon to find out definitively. in my 2x2GB testing though, higher vMCH definitely helped clocks so i can only imagine 4x2GB would require even more at those types of clocks.

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Originally Posted by 3oh6

you may not be too off on your assessment of the 790i...i too have found the 790i to require less voltage for equal overclocks to other boards.

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I agree. What I don't understand is why even with less voltage, Nvidia chipsets run to much hotter (a good 10C in my experience) than their Intel counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Mezzro

I agree. What I don't understand is why even with less voltage, Nvidia chipsets run to much hotter (a good 10C in my experience) than their Intel counterparts.

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that is like comparing Intel to AMD CPUs temps at the same clocks or diesel fuel mileage to gas fuel mileage. they are completely different. in no way are they similar. they both accomplish the same goal but get there in completely different ways. you just can't compare the two, simple as that.

not to mention the fact that the NVIDIA chipset doesn't have an internal thermal probe, so temps on that chipset are arbitrary at best.

Well, here is where I am at now. Have been reading the thread and will try some of the other settings tonight.


Tweaker Menu (Bios version 0601)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 467
CPU Ratio Setting: 9

CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266 or 400, both work
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1869
DRAM Command Rate: 2N
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information: 8 8 8 21 5 82 8 6

2nd Information: Auto

3RD Information: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled

>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Normal
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Advance 250 ps
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Normal
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Same as Ch A
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1:
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2:
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1:
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2:
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Perf Level 7, 6 possible but not stable yet
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage:1.43750
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU PPL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.52422
DRAM Voltage: 2.05422
NB DDRVref: +12.5
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: +50
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: +50
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.53756
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: 1.10014
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


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I couldn't resist and had to have a go. Everything is loose, will try and tighten up the timings but made it!!!:D:D:D

Those sticks are looking pretty sweet!

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Well, here is where I am at now. Have been reading the thread and will try some of the other settings tonight.

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You've been busy Expat Griz. Well done that man:up:

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i haven't spent a lot of time with them on the RE but he is running 4x2GB

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30h6, I completely missed that. No easy task, from what I gather.

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As with all overvoltage, the risks increases as you add more, but there are no definite and absolute "safe" voltages in any category of overclocking. I've put through 1.5V VTT through my QX9650 on the Maximus Extreme for over 6 months before I realised it wasn't needed, and it is still as meh as the first day I received it.

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Well that holds a bit of weight and certainly backs up your skepticism. :D

RLM

Hi guys, I'm having BIG issues while OCing my Q9650 on this board, this is getting me insane because I can't even reach 450x9 to boot into Windows, and this is really strange, imho. I read in the Q9650 that it might be because of the low VTT settings, and that Q9650 owners shouldn't be scared of raising it. Do you have any ideas about my issue? I'm afraid I bought a bad Q9650 batch, and I'm thinking of asking for a new one, but I'm also tempted to buy a E8600, which, from what I've seen, suits better the Rampage Extreme. The ONLY way I can OC is setting FSB on 400x9 and ram @ 1600 MHz, it won't work with any other configuration. I've also changed my RAM to OCZ Platinum DDR3, but results doesn't seem to change.

My usual settings are:

Tweaker Menu
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Ratio Setting: 9

CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266/333/400 they all don't work
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1803
DRAM Command Rate: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information:7-7-7-20
2nd Information: Auto

3RD Information: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled

>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Same as Ch A
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1:
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2:
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1:
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2:
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Perf Level 7
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage:1.40 max, I've tried almost all settings up to 1.40
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU PPL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 for Corsairs, 1.90 for OCZ
NB DDRVref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: 1.06
CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Auto

Here's my setup:
Case: Cooler Master Stacker | PSU: Hiper HPU-5B880 880W | CPU: Q9650 Cooled By Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme | Motherboard: Asus Rampage Extreme | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 OCZ Platinum | VGA: Sapphire ATI HD 4870 X2 | HDD: Velociraptor 300 GB + 2x Seagate 7200.11 750 GB | Monitor: Samsung 2493HM | Keyboard: G15 Mouse: G9 OS: Vista Ultimate 64bit

Well it was very worthwhile going back to the 790i. Couldn't clock on it any where near my previous clocks. A number of thoughts maybe CPU degradation, inadequate cooling (temps were certainly up) and the fact the board's shot. Obviously hope it's not the first thought. In fact it seems the 790i has croaked it. Shutdown and couldn't boot again. Stuck on a 25 error. Tried a q6600 in there and still no joy.

The positive is that the RE is looking more like a decent choice:D Got it all setup again and feeling a lot happier(for now anyway). First boot at 410x10. Vcore set to 1.55 I think, crazy droop all the way down to 1.41v. Running small FTTs no worries. I've clocked the graphics card back to 500/500 for the timebeing and i think in part this is helping with temps in the loop.

I'm going to pick up another 4870x2. I'll take the present one out of the loop and run the new one on air for a bit. Would like to see how the cpu scales without the Graphics card in the loop. I'm obviously hoping that previous barriers were temp related. Eventually I'll get onto the vapochill. Well sometime. A thumbs up.

RLM

Edit: Just had a thought why things might be running smoother. Forgot I'm now in a clean install of Xp not Vista 64. Additionally My Vista 64 really needs a re-install

AndreaEG6,

What bios are you running?

Have you tried to loosen up the ram timings and performance levels, to try and focus on whether it's memory or cpu holding you back. You know maybe 9-9-9-30 2N TRFC 100 and perf on 9. maybe even try a divider.

Another thought maybe try without load-line calibration enabled. you have to account for this though, so for 1.4v load you may need to enter 1.54v into bios.

i'm sure others will have suggestions. just a few thoughts though.

RLM

This Board have Problems with 2x2GB RAM.
And when you are the 1:2 dividier for the RAM have it was very strong for this MB.
With the new Bios 0601 i can run with my E8600 and 2x2 GB CSX Diablos FSB@540x8 and the RAM works @1800 (3:5 400 Strap) fine with 7-7-7-21 2T.
My NB works at 1,46V.

@ AndreaEG6

not sure which OCZ Plats you have but my OCZ 2x1GB 1800's need a fair bit more VDIMM (1.987V) for 900Mhz / CL7. It's taken me a while to get stable with CL7 - finding the 'right' DRAM CTL and NB skews was the key. No stability for me without them.

Just finished Priming for 900 / 7-7-7-20 / PL6, so will post up screen and settings next. I guess you'll need more VNB than I did with 2x1GB and E8600 (though mine seems highish @ 1.444V). I doubt my skews will work for you either (but they might).

Agree with RLM that getting the mems stable first, looser or lower clocked, will be best. DRAM Skews will help at some point but I've found you need to be 'near' stable before you'll see any benefit.

Generally OCZs on this board seem quite hard work but with enough time, should be OK :)

HTH

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...P32_Ob12_2.jpg

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Overall I'm quite pleased with the way these sticks have worked out - apart from being 2N only and seeming to need quite high VDIMM and VNB to stabilise, they've not caused any trouble. For a cheap kit (mine were £75 or $135 approx), just to get up and running with on this board, I think they were pretty good. For what it's worth, I'm not sure I could have hit 1000Mhz any cheaper.

However, when pushed (a bit) both the NB and the memory needed skews to remain stable, and a lot of time since getting the RE has been spent finding and testing for the 'right' DRAM Skews for my kit - even for these modest clocks and timings.

With a 'better' kit, I would also expect decent results (eventually) from finding the best skews, so the last six weeks spent staring at the blue MemTest+86 screen feels like time well spent :ROTF:

1000 / 8-8-8-24 is as far as I think I'll get them without going over 2V, and memory performance (with PL7) is about the same as 900 / 7-7-7-20 (with PL6), which also needs a notch under 2V. Neither is quite what I'd like for a good 24/7, so I've decided to retire the OCZ and try another kit. Over 2V, I don't think any gains would be significant, and no doubt I wouldn't stop until I fried them. They'll do as decent backup sticks now :)

Unfortunately it's just down to trial and error to find the best combination for individual kit/board/clocks. Over time patterns can emerge for 'good' skews, but to make sense of it, you need to keep notes, change one thing at a time, and test and retest.

Found Memtest86+ very useful for DRAM skew testing and came up with this simple 'method':

If you run a deliberately low VDIMM, so that you get freezes in Test 3, you can see (quite) quickly which skews have the most benefit - for given clock and timings, certain skew combinations will pass multiple Test 3 runs, while others freeze instantly. I found the results were repeatable, and with the correct VDIMM (and VNB etc) applied later, memory was stable for full Memtest runs and then Prime etc, where it hadn't been before.

Trying, say, 25 skew combinations, I might get four which appear good and don't freeze - these tended to follow a pattern. The good skews all had the same offset between A and B, and differed only in the overall Advance or Delay from Normal (example: A2 DEL 25 / B2 Normal might work similarly to A2 DEL 75 / B2 DEL 50). At this point you then have a few 'good' skews to test properly and find which works best.

Don't know if this is really meaningful but it worked well for me. Adjusting CTL Skews gave me best results and I left all the others on AUTO.

Also, as setting DRAM SKEWS requires a full restart (IE your hard disks go off and on), I disconnect mine since Memtest86+ runs off a floppy or USB stick. That way you save your disks plenty of unnecessary spin ups :)

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Originally Posted by 3oh6

not to mention the fact that the NVIDIA chipset doesn't have an internal thermal probe, so temps on that chipset are arbitrary at best.

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It may be apples and oranges, but it sure seems like the Intel chipset is working towards/obtaining that same objective much more efficiently -- unless those probes are way off. If the latter is true, why bother with probes? If they are that inaccurate they do more harm than good. Speaking of which, where exactly are the probes that provide CPU temp measurements on the 790i boards (say, using Everest UE)?

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Originally Posted by Bullshooter

This Board have Problems with 2x2GB RAM.
And when you are the 1:2 dividier for the RAM have it was very strong for this MB.
With the new Bios 0601 i can run with my E8600 and 2x2 GB CSX Diablos FSB@540x8 and the RAM works @1800 (3:5 400 Strap) fine with 7-7-7-21 2T.
My NB works at 1,46V.

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I think most are finding this board has problems with RAM compatibility, period. LOL. One of the first kits we found to work well on the board was the G.Skill 2x2GB PC3-12800. I've had good luck with Cell Shock Blue, but others can't get the board to boot at any clock speed with this RAM. I think this will improve with subsequent BIOS releases, but 0601 didn't seem to offer much relief.

Just got these today :D

2x1GB Transcend aXeRam 1800MHz PC3-14400 (8-8-8-24) XMP (TX1800KLU-2GK)

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...Transcend1.jpg


No idea what ICs they are and don't know if they'll even POST, but hopefully...

Intel burn no problems, Vantage no problem.

Super PI Mod 1.5 passes all the to 16M (16M also fails sometimes) but on 32M gets either a total system freeze or program stopped working appcrash message, the most loops I made it to was 14.

Any suggestions? (Vista 64)

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t.../Capture-1.jpg

What Vdimm and Vnb?

Freezes are NB related, try more volts on that.

32M failing is mem unstable 95% of the time. Does it pass HCI memtest?

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Originally Posted by Zeus

What Vdimm and Vnb?

Freezes are NB related, try more volts on that.

32M failing is mem unstable 95% of the time. Does it pass HCI memtest?

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Thanks for helping,

I raised the NB voltage to 1.643 -- still fails :eek:

"Does it pass HCI memtest?" I just down loaded this test and will run it later, but I did run Memtest86+ V2.01 and passed.

Also I have another observation when looking at CPU-Z 1.47 I’m seeing a slight fluctuation in the core speed field between 4199.9 and 4200.2 and in the rated fsb field I’m seeing movement between 2099.8 – 2100.1 is this normal or should this be rock solid?

Here are all my current settings, do you see any glairing problems?


Current settings:
CPU Type: E8600
Cooling: H2O in the CPU, GPU and NB
OS: Vista Ultimate 64
Graphics card(s): One Evga GTX 280 over clocked: 710, 1458, 1280
Memory Brand and speed: Corsair: TW3X4G1600C9DHX 9-9-9-28 @ 1.9volts
Tweaker Menu (Bios version 0601)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 525
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>> = sub menu
>>CPU Configuration
>>CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>>C1E Support: Disabled
>>CPU TM Function: Enabled
>>Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
>> Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
>> Core Multi-Processor: Enable
>> Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1681
DRAM Command Rate: 1n
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information: 9-9-9-24-4-60-8-4
CAS# Latency: 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 9
RAS# PRE: 9
RAS# ACT Time: 24
RAS# To RAS# Delay: Auto
REF Cycle Time: Auto
WRITE Recovery Time: Auto
READ to Pre Time: Auto
2nd Information: 10-4-5-4-7-4-7
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ (S): Auto
READ to READ (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (D): Auto
3RD Information: 19-6-1-10-10
WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto
>> = sub menu
>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: lighter
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.45
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU PPL Voltage: 1.51106
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.643
DRAM Voltage: 1.89511
NB DDRVref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Under advanced menu:
North Bridge Chipset Configuration
Memory Remap Feature: Enabled
Initiate Graphic Adapter: PEG/PCI
PEG Port Control: Auto

Still testing, but a few results for my QX9650. Would be nice to see some more quadcore settings/results in this thread

First off 410x10. Seems a pretty good, stable and cool OC. With CPU/NB/GPU in one loop with the PA 120.3 temps in blend stayed between 48-54c over the 2 hour period. Ambients of about 26-28c

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2...d410x10mo3.jpg

Note Vcore at 1.53v = about 1.48-9v in CPU-Z idle. 1.41v @ load.
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/803/410x9biosgj0.jpg

Moving on to 460x9. Need to do some stability tests. A few thoughts though. cheapseats comments about using low vdimm in memtests is spot on. Certainly the way I've worked for a while. A quicker way to see what's working or not.

Next and I think I've mentioned this, but findings so far it may well be advisable to look at DDR3 Chanel A and B Vrefs, before struggling with clock and dram skews.

At 460x9 with Mem at 1843mhz 8-7-6 memtest would freeze at the opening screen. just the title top left. Sticking +25mv into DDR3 Chanel A and B Vref, and memtest is happy as Larry.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5...t460x10ky7.jpg

Note these aren't really tested yet. Will Blend and OCCT
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8607/460x9biosku5.jpg

Oh and one last one. Will have to work at this a bit, but shows promise. Unfortunately 3dmark 05 blanked and crashed mid Canyon test.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4...est4500tt3.jpg

RLM

A little chillier in Chicago so I tried booting up at 500x9 (4.500 GHz) and she is stable.

But my ram cannot run at 2000 do I changed the divider and ran it at 1668 with 6-6-6-15 1N Timings.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8396690


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8021/23905t2qb6.jpg

I gained a whole 6 3DMark06 points to 23,911.

I moved the ram to the A2 and B2 slots and skewed them differently.

Got them to DDR3-2000 with 10-9-9-27 2N timings.

Barely Beats out the Ram running at DDR3-1666 with 6-6-6-15 1N Timings.

Been trying to hit 24K but No luck, unless I push up the voltages. And Do Not want to do that. The sun has been shining and the house is warming up. Wait till December and it is Ice Cold in here, may hit 25K then is the water in the system isn't frozen.

I think I'm going to EZ-Flash to 0601 and see if that may squeeze out another 100 points.


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8399358

Well I flashed to 0601 and it's only a little better.

Didn't help in 3DMark06 but it shaves almost 0.10 seconds from SuperPi 1M.

4.50GHz is done in 10.250 seconds now.

Good progress RLM! I've settled on my current setting for some games and get some value from this board back... will start more tweaking no doubt very soon :D

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Good progress RLM! I've settled on my current setting for some games and get some value from this board back... will start more tweaking no doubt very soon

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Cheers man:D Look forward to seeing how you get on.

Kensek, I saw your thread. I misread first time and thought you were using a chiller, not it's chillier.lol

That's very impressive. Bl00dy hell. No way I could achieve 4.5ghz on H2o for a 24/7. Those Q9650 are doing very nicely. A 10x multi would be nice though:D

RLM

@RLM

It's just chilly cold Chicago air cooling my regular water loop going through a ThermalChill PA120.3.

The Temp Forecast for tonight is a Low of 36F.

It's too early to start snowing!

Nice stuff Kensek!!!

I might have to consider one of those Q9650's one of these days.

Okay an OCCT run. Temps are a bit higher than I would have liked but then OCCT isn't app of choice:D

Bios settings as above, except had to bump vcore from 1.537 to 1.55v

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7...t460x10xv4.jpg

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Nice stuff Kensek!!!

I might have to consider one of those Q9650's one of these days.

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I know what you mean, good aren't they?

RLM

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I know what you mean, good aren't they?

RLM

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Yeah!

I still haven't plumbed the depths of my E8600 yet, and the price on the Q9650 needs to come down a bit (which I figure it will with i7 on the cusp of release) then I'll be on the lookout.

RLM, I see that you have your vCore quite high but after droop it is not that bad. Do you leave it like that for 24/7? I now have my RE set up with the same cpu, but on air. I haven't begun pushing things much at all as of yet, just running 9.5x400 @ 1.3v. Have you tried a lower vcore with LLC?

Alright, I've been searching but can't seem to find.

What blocks work on the SB with Crossfire?

On my Maximus the Ek NB/SB Asus 4 was fine. Will it still work on this board with CrossfireX 4870 X2 with EK blocks?

and here is what I can test

http://www.abload.de/img/prime390015stunden-1f35.jpg

Rampage Extreme + CSX Diablo 2x1GB + E8600 seem to love each other :) :

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Alright, I've been searching but can't seem to find.

What blocks work on the SB with Crossfire?

On my Maximus the Ek NB/SB Asus 4 was fine. Will it still work on this board with CrossfireX 4870 X2 with EK blocks?

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According to EK the EK NB/SB Asus 1 will fit the southbridge

For the list of compatable blocks try here...

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/downloa...et_04-2008.pdf

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According to EK the EK NB/SB Asus 1 will fit the southbridge

For the list of compatable blocks try here...

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/downloa...et_04-2008.pdf

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I've been there.

I'm pretty sure the mounting pattern is the same for the two blocks. My concern is more for the fittings when the block is mounted, and whether they clear the cards in Crossfire.

I've been communicating with Eddie and will post the confirmation one way or the other here so people know.

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Just got these today :D

2x1GB Transcend aXeRam 1800MHz PC3-14400 (8-8-8-24) XMP (TX1800KLU-2GK)

No idea what ICs they are and don't know if they'll even POST, but hopefully...

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Samsung IC's in there .

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Rampage Extreme + CSX Diablo 2x1GB + E8600 seem to love each other :) :

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Very nice Zeus -
Let us see how you have your bios set for this run. Good sp1 score:up:

Hey Guys!! Some very nice numbers being posted. Congrats to all. Me, I've been planting a 6 meter tree in the front yard and getting ready to put plinths (base boards to us Canucks) in the rest of the house. Everybody should build a house once..after that you'll know what I mean!!:rofl: Especially in a foreign country where you don't speak the lingo.:eek: Anyway, its late..and thought I would have a play. So hooked up the phase for the first time, then decided to cool the NB & Chipsets with Wa Wa Tusu and see what happens.
Here's a question for you... When under phase is the only place you can see the real temp of the cpu in the bios?? The last time I rebooted it didn't even read correctly, said 39 C instead of the -49.5 it said earlier. Core Temp and Real temp just report one core @ 24C & the other @ 37C. The phase unit is hooked up to the CPU fan connection. If it wasn't so late I'd be having a BIG COLD DRINK right now as this 5 ghz. has been on my mind for a very long time!! First try and YAHOOZ:party::party:!!:D

Alright Expat, I want your RAM!

When are you coming back to Canada? Maybe you can bring me some :D LOL

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Alright Expat, I want your RAM!

When are you coming back to Canada? Maybe you can bring me some :D LOL

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Sorry Jack, I was home for the second time in 15 years in August. Place I got mine from is HPM Computer in Germany. Very fast, (next day) and courteous...something you don't always find in Europe. Sorry to rant but I hate e-tailers that say yup...in stock....yup...your order has shipped...and then after you email them a week later with " WTheF is my order??" you get the "ahhhhh its out of stock...maybe in 2 weeks" I'm currently choked at a German manufacturer of SB blocks and an Italian who makes Bench Tables!! :shakes: Anyhow, for a 4 Gb kit its not too bad, very happy infact...I find it likes going up but I'm having a heck of a time under 1850. Might snag an Nvidia board and see if there is a difference. My first time with water and boy...what a difference. I'm typing at you now @ 5 ghz & running OCCT and the NB is 27 DEGREES!!! EK NB, 2 EK Chipset with a Feser 480! :up:

Nice stuff, dude!

Really nice! :up:

Anyway, your RAM is an indication that there is definitely potential in this board for 2x2 kits at high speeds, once the bios gets sorted.

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Very nice Zeus -
Let us see how you have your bios set for this run. Good sp1 score:up:

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Thanks Run, i'm still trying to master all settings in bios but it takes forever to have 'm all tested and see how they influence the oc.

Yesterday i messed with Dram skew and Dram reference voltage trying to bring Vddr down a tad or two but ended up with the auto setting that performed best. :shrug:

Anyhow here's my settings:


CPU Type: E8600
Cooling: H2O on the CPU, GPU and NB
OS: Windows XP SP 2
Graphics card(s): Asus Geforce 8800GTS 512mb
Memory Brand and speed:CSX Diablo 2x1GB

Tweaker Menu (Bios version 0403)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 600 (using set fsb for more)
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>> = sub menu
>>CPU Configuration
>>CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>>C1E Support: Disabled
>>CPU TM Function: Disabled
>>Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
>> Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
>> Core Multi-Processor: Enable
>> Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1921
DRAM Command Rate: 1n
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 6
RAS# PRE: 5
RAS# ACT Time: 16
RAS# To RAS# Delay: Auto
REF Cycle Time: 48
WRITE Recovery Time: Auto
READ to Pre Time: Auto
2nd Information:
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ (S): Auto
READ to READ (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (D): Auto
3RD Information:
WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto
>> = sub menu
>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.52v (don't need that much, just tried to squeeze some more out of the CPU)
Load-Line Calibration: Auto
CPU PPL Voltage: 1.68 ( didn't need that high, just trying)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28 (again, don't need that high)
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.6V
DRAM Voltage: 2.21V
NB DDRVref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Under advanced menu:
North Bridge Chipset Configuration
Memory Remap Feature: Enabled
Initiate Graphic Adapter: PEG/PCI
PEG Port Control: Auto
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As you can see, most settings are at auto.

Oh, it gives some nice bandwidth too at those settings. :)

I think I found a new business for you guys in Europe. Start selling us North Americans that CSX Diablo ram. My paypal is ready to go. Great numbers!

Thanks Zeus for sharing . You could have just said

:D AUTO:D

Maybe I'm trying to over complicate my settings :ROTF: Great overclock and fine bandwidth Zeus :up:

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Thanks Zeus for sharing . You could have just said

:D AUTO:D

Maybe I'm trying to over complicate my settings :ROTF: Great overclock and fine bandwidth Zeus :up:

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I'm also finding that auto is working best for me. I finally got my system to run prime 95 and I'm on hour 11. I purchased budget priced ram and found the wall it put me against. The best I can get now is 4250 with 8.5 x 500 for a rated fsb of 2000. The ram is running at 800. I would like to get a couple of sticks of the CSX Diablo.

Yeah, the auto settings on this board seem to do a darn fine job.

I think 13K across the board for everest was just 2 clicks of setfsb away but i was pushing for a nice SuperPi 1M time then.

In between the 1M runs i ran everest, only to find write was 50mb short of 13K later.

Oh well, will try soem more later. ;)

Zeus, I tried your settings and they are working fantastic so far. Thanks man

Glad i could be of any help man, enjoy the board, it's lovely! :up:

Impressive stuff zeus:up: I'm guessing vdimm 2.2v is just for a bench run?

Agree about auto settings. As i say the only ones out of the ordinary that have been really needed for me are the vrefs.

A few questions to you folks.

1. Apparently when switching on the PSU the power light is supposed to flash three times then stop. Mine doesn't. It only stops when I push it to power on/boot. As a matter of caution I leave it to flash about 5 times, and then push it. Do others here have this issue or not?

2. Error! The cpu core to bus ratios or Vid config has failed!.
I get this message everytime I cold boot. The system powers up fans for a split second, stops then boots to this error message. I need to F1 enter setup, F10 save and exit, and then it boots fine.

I've tried all sorts to try a pin point the issue, but can't seem to find a solution. Even taking it back to stock settings. This happens in both bios 0201 and 0601.

Any help appreciated.

RLM

Thanks RLM.

Yes 2.2V is for benching only, using 2.04V for daily use DDR1800 7-6-5-16 1T. with a Dominator ramcooler over the ram.

I just checked mine but my powerled isn't flashing at all, only the illuminated ROG logo on the heatpipe assembly keeps blinking, not the powerled.

As for the error you're getting, i've never seen that once. :shrug:

My board stopped seeing two of my cores the other day. I thort I fried two of my cores since I am still on stock cooling, waiting for wc parts to be delivered. After going back and forth in BIOS now and again I would see 4 cores and then next reboot two. It has been on four cores now for at least 1/2 dozen reboots and I am using 601. I wonder if it is the MB or CPU, any ideas?

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Thanks RLM.

Yes 2.2V is for benching only, using 2.04V for daily use DDR1800 7-6-5-16 1T. with a Dominator ramcooler over the ram.

I just checked mine but my powerled isn't flashing at all, only the illuminated ROG logo on the heatpipe assembly keeps blinking, not the powerled.

As for the error you're getting, i've never seen that once.

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Thanks for checking. Appreciated.

I had the same on the P5E3 Deluxe with that Error message, but not on the 790i. Very odd. If anyone else is getting this maybe with a QX I would like to know.

As for the blinking power light, again puzzled. I know someone else mentioned their's blinked all the way into the OS fully booting. Their board died shortly after. I will check mine with a new PSU maybe tomorrow.

I want to confirm my board is okay, before I think about prepping it for phase.

RLM

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My board stopped seeing two of my cores the other day. I thort I fried two of my cores since I am still on stock cooling, waiting for wc parts to be delivered. After going back and forth in BIOS now and again I would see 4 cores and then next reboot two. It has been on four cores now for at least 1/2 dozen reboots and I am using 601. I wonder if it is the MB or CPU, any ideas?

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It's one of those things. you either need to check the cpu in another board, or another cpu in your board. If you don't have the spares, maybe take it in somewhere to get it checked.

RLM

Well did another google Re: Error! The cpu core to bus ratios or Vid config has failed!.

Found some posts on a UK overclocking forum

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I also have a slight problem with this board if anyone knows the answer?

When I cold bood I get this message "Error! The CPU to Bus ratio or VID configuration has failed" although if I F1 and exit and carry on into windows the pc is 100% stable, just this message at the beginning of every cold boot. I can't seem to find a fix for it and its anoying me. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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QX9650@4.2 , OCZ (4x1GB)8500 SLI-Ready Edition, Sapphire 4870 X2 , Asus Rampage Formula X48 , Seasonic M12 Modular 700W ,Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 3 x Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB , Custom water cooling

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Another persons answer, which I can't verify

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Its a bug with most of the ROG Asus boards, My Rampage Extreme does it aswell if i turn off the power at the wall. Leaving the board powered seems to be the only fix at the moment.

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Not sure what to make of that.

I have spent a good hour or so trying to get rid of the error, but no joy. It's also something you don't want to be testing repeatedly, turning the PSU off an ON loads of times.

RLM

PFN list corrupt bluescreen.

Is that likely a RAM thing?

I've been running at 500 FSB with 3.0GHz on the CPU (Stock cooling) and the RAMZ at 1200MHz and it passed Orthos Small and Blend 8 hours as well as two hours Memtest86+

I'll have to do some more stability testing on the RAM, I guess.

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Memtest86+...

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scrap Memtest86+ and do memory stability testing with HCI Memtest within Windows. of course you also want to test 3D and prime blend but HCI is far superior for finding issues with memory in Windows. it's free and the best IMO...

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/

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scrap Memtest86+ and do memory stability testing with HCI Memtest within Windows. of course you also want to test 3D and prime blend but HCI is far superior for finding issues with memory in Windows. it's free and the best IMO...

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/

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Thanks:up:

I'll give it a go.

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Well did another google Re: Error! The cpu core to bus ratios or Vid config has failed!.

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Am also getting this error message when using the QX9650. But never had it when on the E8600. It is really annoying.
Was able to do this on the E8600 but the NB temps is already at 67c (on air).... http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...0TPC/temp2.jpg
Stock cooling already taken off replaced with some Thermalright sinks....

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scrap Memtest86+ and do memory stability testing with HCI Memtest within Windows. of course you also want to test 3D and prime blend but HCI is far superior for finding issues with memory in Windows. it's free and the best IMO...

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/

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Alright, passed 600% overnight.

Is that enough?

I've tested my RE today, seems quite ok for that poor ram.
http://alexiel.stor.li/cpu-z.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=427993
all settings @ auto
vnb @ auto: 1,41v

except:
vcore: 1,475v
llc: disabled
spectrums: disabled
temps:
nb@load: 1,41v // 30°c
cpu@load: 1,47v // 48 46 46 48°c

hope that my 2 atis will arrive soon to have some gaming tests ^^

Hey guys... not been around for a bit, as ive not had much time to play with my RE. However, back to it now, and its going pretty well. It certainly uses much less voltage than any of my previous boards.

Here is my latest overclock - QX9650 456x9 4.1ghz 1.36v Prime stable:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2...restcrozj9.jpg

A slightly better everest read (p95 not running at the same time):

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9...stbenchxx8.jpg

My CPU is doing great, but memory remains an issue. Cant get it to clock with the FSB, hence the low speed. Ive managed to get it up to 1780mhz memtest stable, but it still BSOD's when entering windows. No doubt is cos im running 2x2gb, but i havnt finished tweaking yet.

If any of u have any ideas... let me know!

@Expat GriZ
what are your settings for 500FSB RAM 1:2.
Because my Board doesn´t boot over 410FSB with the 1:2 dividier.
I have the same Config. E8600 and 2x2GB CSX Diablos DDR3 2000.

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@Expat GriZ
what are your settings for 500FSB RAM 1:2.
Because my Board doesn´t boot over 410FSB with the 1:2 dividier.
I have the same Config. E8600 and 2x2GB CSX Diablos DDR3 2000.

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@ Bullshooter Will get back to you soon as I've been installing base boards all day!!:mad: I posted my setting a few pages back and I find with the 4 gb kit I have to use the ram skew @ + 250 for A & B plus the NB REf +12.5 & Ram Vref +50 for both. Can't do what the 2 gb guys are doing. Nice run Zeus!! For 500 X 10 put more volts to CPU, PLL, NB, Ram @ 2.01 With LLC Enabled. If you are still on I'll try and post them again shortly when I get it fired up.

@ RLM Dood, I unplugged everything to install plinths, move furniture, etc and got your message when I fired it back up. Just did what you did and all seems ok.

GriZ

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Am also getting this error message when using the QX9650. But never had it when on the E8600. It is really annoying.

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@ RLM Dood, I unplugged everything to install plinths, move furniture, etc and got your message when I fired it back up. Just did what you did and all seems ok.

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Thanks for confirming this, so at least we know it's just a bit of a quirk with the board.

If you're happy with your overclock and just want to make things a bit easier you can disable the F1 error option in your boot settings.

RLM

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Thanks buddy. I think the combination i'm running at the moment is in perfect harmony, i love it.

You're doing not too bad yourself either, keep pushing. ;)

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@Expat GriZ
what are your settings for 500FSB RAM 1:2.
Because my Board doesn´t boot over 410FSB with the 1:2 dividier.
I have the same Config. E8600 and 2x2GB CSX Diablos DDR3 2000.

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Here it is as it stands now. Timings are about as tight as I can go and be stable.


Tweaker Menu (Bios version 0601)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Ratio Setting: 10

CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 2000
DRAM Command Rate: 2N
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information: 9 9 9 24 5 88 8 6
2nd Info: Auto 10 6 5 5 7 5 7
3rd Info: Auto 20 8 1 10 10

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled ( if I disable either or
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled both of these, BSD.)

>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Normal
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Advance 250 ps
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Normal
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Normall
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1: Normal
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2: Advance 250 ps
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1: Normal
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2: Normal
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Perf Level 7, pull ins disabled
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage:1.5825
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU PPL Voltage: 1.67006
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.41816
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.6437
DRAM Voltage: 2.09406
NB DDRVref: +12.5
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: +50
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: +50
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.57731
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: 1.13989
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I hope this helps. I know it looks goofy & the volts are a little high but its been on now for 2 hours without a hiccup. I've tried to emulate what Zeus and the 2 gb guys are flying at and its just not possible for me. I'm now going to try lower ram timings about 1880 - 1900 because I can do 8 8 8 21 82 and hopefully get PL 6 which should be possible. I also have the CPU on Phase and its hovering @ -45 C:D:up: Thank you LD!!!!:up:

All the best!!

GriZ

Anyone tried this board with the q9450? I've just gotten it and can't seem to get it stable at any oc.. Have managed to start windows at 500x8 once, but didn't last long, but now i have problems even getting it stable at 400x8. I suspect i might be the RAM though. 2x2 GB OCZ (2000MHz). Can't even get close to the 2000 that ocz claims it should handle, but even at 1600 or lower it seems unstable..
Also, i can't even boot at 600 fsb (at x6). seems like i can't get the fsb out of this board as others do.. Really want to get this stable at 500x8, and the ram at 2000.. u guys think that should be possible?
it's all watercooled btw.

I don't know about newer revisions, but those FSBs might be a bit ambitious for the Q9450. The fact you booted once at 500x8 sounds pretty good to me.

You'll see above your post Expat Griz has posted his bios settings. Use that as a template and fill out your settings. That way people will be better able to help you.

RLM

Ok, thx. Yeah, it booted fine, but after only a few seconds of prime95 it froze. only problem is i don't remember the settings i had when doing that :p and now i have real problems getting it stable at low oc as well. but, maybe i can copy Expat Griz' settings and try from there? except maybe the cpu voltage. 1,58V on q9450 can't be safe, can it? probably nb og ram voltages i have to adjust i guess. will try it when i get home from work.

hey everyone. i'm thinking of ditching my Bone Trail for this motherboard. are there any known issues with the Rampage Extreme and 4870 CrossFire? if so, please let me know before i buy :D

@ Expat GriZ
have you D9GTR or D9GTS Chips on your CSX RAM?
I have D9GTS they are Build at 28/08.
The D9GTR are working better on this Board now i have 2x2GB OCZ DDR3 2000 CL9 Platinium XTC and they works very fine.
The NB Volt can go down and the RAM Volt the same.
With your Settings no boot.

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@ Expat GriZ
have you D9GTR or D9GTS Chips on your CSX RAM?
I have D9GTS they are Build at 28/08.
The D9GTR are working better on this Board now i have 2x2GB OCZ DDR3 2000 CL9 Platinium XTC and they works very fine.
The NB Volt can go down and the RAM Volt the same.
With your Settings no boot.

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On their website the CSX Diablo is listed as D9GTR.

How are those Platinum's doing? What settings are you running?

I might have to check them out...

Well, i gave up on trying to get the 2x2gb G-skill PI stable at anything over 1700mhz, and just for fun stuck my Supertalent projectX 2x1gb set in, which is much happier :)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9...77p32m4zd7.jpg

Just debating whether to try some 2x2gb CSX diablo seeing as u guys seem to be enjoying it. Alternatively, how does this board manage with 4x1gb?

Thats with the 2x2GB OCZ, Strap 266, FSB 567x7,5, NB have 1,57V and RAM have 1,94V
The CSX don´t boot with 1,64V on NB and 2,1V on RAM

http://www.abload.de/thumb/567fsb266...m1700ocxts.jpg

With apogee gt blazer series 2000, 4 x 1 GB
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9...l777pl7em3.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2...meblendvx5.jpg

Hi All,
Have finally started to play now :D

I have my system up and running but have yet to get it through any test!
Currently running @ 500 FSB and 8 Multi and the Ram at 1600 numbers as per the XMP profile.
CPU Voltage is 1.3
North Bridge is 1.5

There pretty much the only things i have changed

Any ideas? Please :D

BTW am aiming at 4GHz for 24/7

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Originally Posted by Bullshooter

@ Expat GriZ
have you D9GTR or D9GTS Chips on your CSX RAM?
I have D9GTS they are Build at 28/08.
The D9GTR are working better on this Board now i have 2x2GB OCZ DDR3 2000 CL9 Platinium XTC and they works very fine.
The NB Volt can go down and the RAM Volt the same.
With your Settings no boot.

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When I ordered my ram from HPM in Germany they were listed as GTS and thats what showed up, according to the sticker on the side. Haven't had the HS off but at that time they were listed as GTS. I see now that they are still listed this way...http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_i...00-DIABLO.html

Plus, when I ordered them they listed a different set of timings, one that included 1866 as max for Intel boards. I can happily report that is not the case. 2000, best I can do is 9 9 9 24, but this is what I'm goofing with now.:D

Hey there....

My setup is as follow:

E8400
Asus Rampage Extreme (bios 501)
2 x 1GB OCZ DDR3 PC16000 (SLI READY for what it actually means)
EVGA GTX 280
Antec 650 Trio

Vcore - 1.32 (more then needed)
Vdimm - 2.1
Memory divider - 3:5
VTT - 1.32
VNB - 1.7
The rest of the settings on AUTO.
PL9 but that was how it started up using AUTO settings.

Now with these settings I am Superpi 32M stable at 600FSB x 6. I can do an Aquamark, but testing other 3d using 3dmark 05 it would fail during the first game test. Not a full system hang, just artifacts (GPU not overclocked) and system hang before it will continue with funny colours. I've had a similar problem with my P5Q3 deluxe mobo as well, but it wasn't 32M stable at 600FSB so it didn't bother me too much. I did try setting PL11 manually, and running the memory at 1600mhz but didn't give me much more, then maybe a couple scenes further in the first game test of 05.

What could be the cause of these 3d bench failures?

I was testing the OCZ 1600mhz Platinums on the P5E3 Deluxe. Using a Q6600 I dropped the previous vcore from 1.48 to 1.42 for a 3.67ghz overclock. I ran small FTTs for just over an hour no issues and good temps. I then went to run blend and it failed after about a minute, if that.

I then tried loosening all timings, experimented with clock skews, bumped vdimm etc and the same blend would fail everytime after about 30secs to a minute or so.

Then I upped the vcore again eventually to 1.45v, and it ran blend for 3 and half hours before I finally stopped it. This surprised me a bit.

The reason I mention this is that you could think your cpu is stable, and then feel like your banging your head against the wall trying to get the ram stable, when what's needed is an extra bump in vcore.

Just thought I'd share this.

With regards banging heads against the wall, still struggling to get a decent bench stable 4.5 ghz on this board. Also I'm a little sceptical of the bios temp readings. I know it's at partial load in bios, but I'm seeing 60+c, where as on the 790i I would see maybe 49c for a similar clock. If I touch the tubing or put my finger under the waterblock on the heatsink, there's no real heat. the air coming out of the rad is pretty cool as well.

Edit: I can't help but think, there's got to be a tweak, skew, gtlref or something that will make the difference with clocking these quads. maybe a bios update even. Where is that new bios anyway:D

RLM

Don't know if you commented on my post, but thanks in any case. I will try to up the vcore and see what happens. And I'll up the VTT a bit more maybe 1.4 or maybe a bit higher and see if it will help.

I still need to put the QX9650 in and see if I can get 450FSB stable.

Hi All
Have got the system PI 8M stable, but nowhere near prime stable (BSOD about 1 min in) at the following settings.
If anyone can help with some surgestions it would be of great help.

CPU Type: QX6850
Cooling: H2O on the CPU, GPU x2 and NB
OS: Vista Ultimate SP1
Graphics card(s): 2 x Sapphire 4870
Memory Brand and speed:G.Skill F3-12800CL7-2GbPI
Tweaker Menu (Bios version 0601)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>> = sub menu
>>CPU Configuration
>>CPU Ratio Setting: 8
>>C1E Support: Disabled
>>CPU TM Function: Disabled
>>Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
>> Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
>> Core Multi-Processor: Enable
>> Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1601 MHz
DRAM Command Rate: 1n
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 7
RAS# PRE: 7
RAS# ACT Time: 18
RAS# To RAS# Delay: Auto
REF Cycle Time: 60
WRITE Recovery Time: 10
READ to Pre Time: 6
2nd Information:
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ (S): Auto
READ to READ (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE (D): Auto
3RD Information:
WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto
>> = sub menu
>>DRAM Skew Control
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Auto
>>DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1: Auto
>>DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU PPL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
CPU GTLVerf (0): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (1): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: 1.6V
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
NB DDRVref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Under advanced menu:
North Bridge Chipset Configuration
Memory Remap Feature: Enabled
Initiate Graphic Adapter: PEG/PCI
PEG Port Control: Auto

Aslo dose anyone know the core layout on Quads?

From the little gold triangle where would core 1, core 2 etc be in relation?

Cheers

my 2 4870x2 arrived today. now, they work quite fine on the rampage, don't know caused what the issue...
28-30°c average core temp should be ok too.

but one last thing is missing: decent ram which works well with the rampage...any recommendations? isn't that easy since i want a 4gb (4x1gb or 2x2gb) and 1800mhz (9x450) kit.

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Originally Posted by rddave

Aslo dose anyone know the core layout on Quads?

From the little gold triangle where would core 1, core 2 etc be in relation?

Cheers

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Hope this can help some

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ohne_40x30.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ghostleader

Hope this can help some

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ohne_40x30.jpg

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Hi Ghost,

Thanks for that but what core is where?

http://www.itwissen.info/bilder/quad...foto-intel.png

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Originally Posted by sargatanas

http://www.itwissen.info/bilder/quad...foto-intel.png

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Thanks very much for that it is a very big help. cheers