sure it does on the Pro board..i have both working in XP...are you trying to use it in Vista?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masami
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sure it does on the Pro board..i have both working in XP...are you trying to use it in Vista?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masami
NKD: what is your CPU GTLREF set at?
in vista you need to turn off driver signature (something I do not wish to ever do). So I don't use core temp. Everest and speedfan report pretty close though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
isn't the driver signature aspect only applicable to vista 64 bit?
Do have this right? To update the BIOS, do I just copy awdflash to the floppy or do I have to put the bin file on the floppy as well, because I can not get both to fit.
you have to use 2 floppy disks...1st disk is your boot disk, the 2nd disk carries your "bin" and awdflash.exe
Thank you.
not sure...I use x64, but maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
yeah, i think that i read the driver signature is a biggy only in vista 64 bit.
Yeah but all it does is ask you if you wanna isntall or not and you jsut check yes and install it. Its not that big a deal. I have 64bit and I have used coretemp to get the vid and stuff. Ofcourse it doesnt read -C temps just like tat doesnt but oh well.
Everest works fine but reads only the 2 core temperature and not the cpu temperature... but the abit Uguru cpu temperature sensor is accurate?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
The boot disk gets me to a dos prompt, but I can not type to run anything? What am I doing wrong?
My IP35 Pro cannot start,writes No Signal. Can m/b be not compatible with my RAM (OCZ2G1100GK)?
it was set to 67% which i beleve is the default value,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
my highest stable FSB on the board i mean prime stable is 543x7, and highest stable cpu speed is 3970.
Does anyone have very flaky FanEQ?
Mine sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't (fixed max fan speed) during each reboot.
I sometimes get it back working after loading my previously saved bios profile.
It's really weird and sometimes very annoying as Tuniq is very loud at max fan speed. LOL
Bios->Integrated Peripherals->OnChip PCI Device->USB Device Setting-> USB Keyboard Support Via BIOS (Not OS)Quote:
The boot disk gets me to a dos prompt, but I can not type to run anything? What am I doing wrong?
RLM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
Thank you, I was looking for that but missed it.
err, whenever i try to change the q6600 multiplier to 8 or anything lower instead of 9 for my q6600, it would show whatever the number i picked in bios, but when i boot to windows, in cpuz for example, it would be 9 no matter what i change in bios... help?
Hey i was wondering how did you apply the ceramique to the mosfet.. theres like so many of them, and all so small... Did you put a little bit on each? or was there another wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Dredd
No, I haven't used a gigabit network. But it still ruins the point with 2 x 125 MB/s NICs sharing a 133 MB/s bus along with a sound card (as well as most certainly a bunch of other integrated components). I can't live with stuttering sound, that's what bothers me the most. But you don't seem to have any problems, I've got a X-Fi too but if you're on a GLAN and running it without issues I guess I'm safe as currently my Internet connection is "just" 100 Mbit, but this is limited by the ISP (and I use all of those 100 Mbit very often for extended periods of time). The actual fiber is rated for 1 Gbit. And 1 Gbit is a total possibility for the LAN, but no it probably wouldn't be used to full (as HDDs may turn out the limiting factor). But it still ruins the point of dual GLAN. And again, I'm most worried about the PCI sound card.
Ace-a-Rue
Yeah, the PCI sound card is my main issue here.
shimmishim
Yep, that sucks. Thanks for the vdroop mod though. I'm not sure I understand how to use that picture really, but I guess I'll scoop around a bit more.
I’m troubleshooting a ram issue that I posted about here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=153669
I have a problem related to memory or the memory controller being unstable especially when using 2 sticks and one thing I need to try is to bump up the mch voltage more than I did before. So what would be about the highest I could safely turn the mch up to without any extra cooling on the NB? Maybe 4gigs requires more mch voltage to be stable, I barely turned it up before because I didn't realize that it stood for memory controller hub.
Also has anyone else had stability problems with this board and 4 gigs of ram or G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 800?
Nothing. TAT and coretemp don't work. Why??
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
exactly, a little bit on each mosfet.:)
are you using vista?...which OS, 32 or 64 bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masami
First time poster here, long time lurker. I'm still very new to building and this will be my first Intel rig. Two AMD X2's under my belt, but I do have a few questions. Listed below is what I have purchased and already own. I want to be able to archive a descent overclock (3.2 > ). Im still debating on a liquid system although thats a completely different thread. My two main questions relate to the MB and some components I already own. I've read the manual for the MB and says you can use a power supply with a 20 Pin/4 Pin ATX power connectors instead of the 24 pin/8 pin ATX. My current power supply has 24 Pin ATX and a 4 Pin ATX, is this going to cause a problem? Should I just buy a new PSU? My next question is regarding windows installation. Previously when installing windows on a SATA drive (non-raid) I had to hit F6 and load the SATA Driver (Asrock crap) before windows installation, do I have to follow the same procedure for this MB as well? Does this apply to XP and Vista? . BTW, I'm also looking for a mentor to help me OC' once the computer is built. I've done my homework on OC'ing so all i would really need is some help with specific bios options and memory timings.
Thanks for all the help in advance!
Scott
Purchased:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping Kentsfield
ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Already Own:
Nvidia Evga 8800 GTX 768mb
Creative X-Fi Platnium
Western Digital WD250KS SataII
Western Digital My Book Pro 500 GB External
PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI
Edit Sorry if this post is in the wrong section, just realized it might be.
XP 32 bit. This is the problem!!!!!
CoreTemp and RightMark CPU Clock Utility (and of course uGuru) work fine here; XP Pro (32-bit) on IP-35 Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masami
On my system only everest and rightmark cpu clock utility work fine... TAT doesn't start and coretemp crash and reboot my pc...
Is TAT the Intel app? If so, I don't think it works with this board (could be the chipset - I dunno). :(
Yes Intel Thermal analisys tool...
Everest says 21C for mobo... Is it true???? My 965 was 40C!!!!
blah, thanks. But after doing that, my PWM temps are still quite high (reaching 80c under load at 3.6ghz)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
how come other boards doesn't seem to have this PWM overheating problem =/
interesting. my PWM hit around 65C at 3.78 ghzQuote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
wow, did u change anything on your mobo? I did the mod ace posted, and added 2 40mm fans even over the mofest and north bridge, but the temps are just so freaking high...Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
could this be a possible defect mobo or something =s
no changes. stock heatpipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
i have a 70mm fan over the NB and 120mm over the mosfet area :)
i think my temps may be lower than yours due to my mobo being out of the case
how are you getting the heat build-up out of the case...i have two rear mounted 120mm fans turning at 2.5K (105 or 110 cfm).Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
my idle PWM temp is at 39-40C at 3600 Mhz...(case door is closed)
you might try removing the side cover and then running a stress program to see if the PWM temps get that high...my PWM max was like 63C when priming at 3704 Mhz with the side case door removed...i also have two 80mm fans blowing on the memory and into the CPU socket area where the sensor is located...i used 3M 2-way sticky tape to lock those 80's onto the other side door...i used small plastic ties to secure both fans together...i'll see if i can get a picture of it to post up here.
Remount your heatpipe, sounds like a bad mount, maybe the contact is uneven?
Anyone going to try the new HR-09 on their PWMS? I'm tempted so I can use my VC-RE for my NB :D
here is a pic showing how i mounted the two 80mm fans...one fan blowing on the memory and the other is blowing under the ultra at the base of the cpu socket where the PWM area is located....the higher the rpm blowing into the cpu socket area the lower the PWM temperature.
well, before i remounted the heatpipes, the temps would reach 80c at 3.6 under load as well, just a lot quicker than now, so i don't think its actually bad mount
i only have 1 fan leading air out of the case behind my thermalright ultra, and i don't have the fans on top
heres what it looks like
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3149/dsc04402px2.jpg
i just tried opening my case, and the temp dropped for about 2-3c? which doesn't help much i don't think... :S
i guess ill have to get 2 80mm fans on top like you ace, that is if i can find some space to mount them =s
just another question, whats a normal temps for the system temperatures in uguru? Mines like 44c most of the time after the computer's been turned on for a while. Is that also high? =S
@ Ace-a-Rue, or someone else that has done the heatpipe TIM job: I'll be getting my Q6600 tomorrow and thought that while I swap chips I may as well take the board out of my case and do the v-droop mod and remount the heatpipe assembly with a better TIM. (pwm temps are good on mine, but the nb contact looks sketchy) Just a quick question on that so I can be prepared for the job. I inferred from your post about the TIM not melting that the stock stuff is a thermal tape or something of that nature and not a paste. Is that correct?
ya, when i did mine, i just peeled it off. its like a rubber pad kind of thingQuote:
Originally Posted by mikead_99
Cool, good to know in advance. Thanks. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
Anyone know the answer to my questions?
If by hitting f6 you mean you would have to have a floppy with sata haddrive drivers on it and install it before you could install windows, then no, you don't need to do that with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinCykle
Thanks ! Any idea about the power supply? Im not sure if the Pc Power & Cooling 510 SLi is enough juice.
I'm on a gigabit network and even from room to room I don't max it out between 2 local machines. I had some amine playing while transferring large chunks of data (1GB+) across the network with no noticable issues. I don't know what the worry is about anyway. Would you use 2 LAN connections at once? I don't so I don't know if that makes any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Anyone know how accurate UGURU is on tmeps for the quads???
Pretty accurate but it only reads the diode not the core temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey_Its_Cole
Toying with the idea of getting a Q6600 but should I get a faster video card instead? My X1900 is getting rather old now. Thinking maybe new games won't play nice with it heh. My max res will be 1280x1024 though.
On topic: has anyone heard if using a 4pin power connector instead of 8pin causes issues? Thinking of recommending this board to someone, but they don't have a PSU with an 8pin EPS plug. Would it matter? I could tell them to buy a new PSu, but they would then have to buy a cheaper mobo.
how did you re-fasten the heatpipe to the board after doing the mod?...i hope not the original plastic push pins:shocked: that came on the board!?...that is what it looks like from your picture...i see white plastic tops to those pins...am i wrong?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
you look like you have room for at least one 80mm fan...you can use 60mm if you like as long as they push some CFM's.
my system temp is around 30C...i think that sensor is close to the NB and maybe you do not have that firmly seated on the NB chipset...i also have a 70mm (taped to the board) sitting in front (between VC and NB heatsink) of the NB blowing air onto the NB heatsink...the only thing is that the VC is an 8800 GTS which gets damn warm, even on the backside...don't know if the that 70mm is much help taking very warm air coming off from the VC and blowing it onto NB heatsink.:shrug:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikead_99
the only exception, they used ceramique paste on the SB..otherwise, it's like "fatal_error" described.
yep its the original plastic thingies, i didn't think it would make THAT much of a different since it mounted on quite tightly... or at least it looked like it did. Do you think that could be the problem here? If so, /off to homedepot! ><Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
Im curious about this as well. I own a PC Power and Cooling 510 Sli. It has a 24 Pin ATX/ 4 Pin ATX Power connectors. Will this power supply work and hold up to OC'ing?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
YES!...i told you what to use...at least 1/2" in length...maybe jump to 3/4" to give you slightly more wiggle room.;)
i also made sure the heatpipe was sitting level on the table top...i had to do a little bending of the tubes to get it to not wobble.
Just for info, added the new official bios to the original page as seen below:-
BIOS ID:11
1. Support CL=3.
2. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
3. Support Command Rate adjusting function.
4. Update Jmicron BIOS to V1.06.69.
5. BIOS compiled date: 07/13/2007
:up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinCykle
SURE!...PCP&C are damn good supplies...i had a 400W antec running my Abit QuadGT with a Q6600 and a 7600GT card...a 500W+ should be just fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Sounds good, I will give it a try. I was mainly concerened about the 4 Pin (Square) ATX power connector vrs. the 8 Pin (Rectangle) power connector. I read the manual and it says both can be used although one is from "240 Something" compliance. Not quite sure what that is.
just ordered an abit ip35 pro today....we shall see what happens
i am really liking this mobo so far. Havent flashed to a newer Bios yet...Quick question though: During startup, the 2nd screen pops up saying something about RAID, under that it states my DVD-RW drive, then says press any key to continue (dont have to press, it continues on its own), any way to bypass this screen, it really slows down my boot times
yes...if you do not want to use raid, you just disable the "raid" option in the bios under intergrated perpherials.
Thanks Ace-a-Rue: that worked
Updated Intel "Matrix Storage Manager" drivers:
v. 7.6.0.1011
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
Anyone want to give this BIOS a try it's labeled B12.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...M629B_12AT.rar
It's the one given to Anandtech for use when benchmarking the IP35 Pro in their upcomming review.
I'm not sure if I should flash it cause I'm scared it may break something :rofl:
anyone try it yet? :shrug:
i will try!:shocked:
:D
good luck, and post findings ASAP :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
YES PLX AMAGAD GOGOGO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
interested in seeing what this B12 bios does for everybody...*-)
I should have my board by this weekend....I will be testing my E6850 on it
so far...everything is set the way i had it before..notice the cpu temp readout from uguru is about 2-3C lower than before...coretmep 095 reads the same as before for idle conditions.
hmmmm wondering what all has changed in bios then?
How come I get a 'file not found" error from awdflash? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I'm gonna download awdflash again and try one more time.
you disappoint me greatly :cord:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
just playing, i'm going to give the Bios 11 and this a try, see if it helps my OC at all
I fixed my problem by renaming the file and using that name with awdflash.
Anyhow it looks to me like uguru reads core temps now instead of the usual cpu diode. It is so close to what everest and speedfan report.
After a few quick benchmarks it seems like performance is increased slightly. Nothing huge so don't expect miracles, but it is slightly better than it was.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
you have to make it 8 or less in alpha-numeric before the extension.
Uguru is not registering the correct temperature anymore for my B3-Q6600...hmmmm, wondering if they did that for the newer "G0" stepping processors...i am priming 3 cores at the moment or 75% across the board and it is reading only 43C from Uguru...core temp 095 says about 65-67C
This is my first Intel build and I had to apply a lot of pressure to get the cpu seated. It is in the right position it just took a lot of pressure. Is this normal?
:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic Chief
not at all....the 2 notches should line up fine and fall into place....
the only part that should have some tension is the cpu lever that locks it into place..
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Magic Chief
Does anyone have the copy of the bootable USB image show on the post here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=897
?
go here to download this easy to use HP utility..this is the one that i used to set up my USB thumb drive to work like a floppy but with mega storage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197
thank you :bows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
it appears that Uguru cpu temp is a bit flaky...besides being about 3C lower at idle...it wouldn't rise when i stressing the cores...not until i open and closed Uguru did it show a reasonable temp...but not really reasonable; like 53-55C stresssing all 4 cores.
i am betting this bios will work better with a "G0" stepping cpu.
New beta bios
http://fugger.netfirms.com/M629B_12.zip
Loading it up tonight when I get home
Try the beta bios' at own risk, enjoy.
same as the one I linked to earlier. Seems good so far, but I don't know exactly what was fixed/added/changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
If anyone finds detailed info on changes I'm sure we'd all like to know. :cool:
so... which version is the newest and i should try with my g0? so many different versions so confusing >.>
now, that is funny...abit was accused for a while for failing to do bios updates and it was that way for their QuadGT board...what-a-turnaround!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal_error
here is a sign where the they have tighten the latencies....before i was at 59-60 ns...look at it now...53 ns
Heh Ace-a-Rue, with these lower latencies, r u any faster in Super PI?
in 1M, i went from 14 secs to 13.98 secs...a little gain...that is at 3704 Mhz using 5-5-5-30-40
Sorry guys, but this mobo give me a lot of problem with some software: Intel TAT, Core temp and now Sandra Sisoft.... Why???
Holy Crap guys! This board is AWESOME!!! Compared to my ASUS P5N32 SLI Plus...Highest I could get with my previous mobo was 3.93GHz with 1.6 volts...
I decided just to go for a quick suicide run, just for the fun of it...and BAM 4.0Ghz with 1.58 volts...RAM DDR2 1068, 4-4-4-12...Havent stability tested yet
Oh yeah: and Im on the original BIOS, time for a quick Super PI run, will post back
WOW, heres a quick Super PI run
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8...ick1gm4.th.jpg
Again, TAT doesn't seem to work with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masami
As for the rest of your issues, I dunno. Have you tried to reset your CMOS? What about update your BIOS?
heres a Bandwidth test...Have u guys ever seen it this high?
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1...bandrn2.th.jpg
I must say this new bios does improve your latency's a bit. I am at 41.1 in everest where I was at 56 or so before. Still max at 480fsb with my x3220 (B3). Seems to make this board pretty quick now, getting on toward the quadgt speeds.
It did screw my cpu temps though. Under phase where it read 0c before unless I went positive temps now it jsut reads 128c.
Hey MadMax
Before you installed beta 12, you said it would only show 0 when your sub zero, is that in the bios as well ?
in bios for me it shows N/A when under cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanzo
uguru shows 0Cs when under cold.
REALLY, REALY NICE, VIPER!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Viper
Having the same problem with this B12 update as I did with the last B11.
All previous settings now no longer work, and can't boot/post over about 2.8 ghz.
(Note: Have been using ACE-A-Rue method, USB disk, extensions etc, leaving battery out and cmos flashing for about 5 minutes prior to first new boot)
Still trying to pin point why. Wonder if it's something to do with the new latencies mentioned and my Geil ram.
On the last B11, for some unknown reason it all started to work again and was able to have 420x9 set 1:1 3-3-3-8.
:confused:
RLM
hey guys, i jus changed to this board after for some odd reason my ds3r died on me in 1week,
i have a question about the uguru feat. on this board. when you use this feature are you suppose leave everything in the bios stock? so should i change he vcore in bios and jus change he fsb with uguru?