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03-19-2009, 11:52 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholo777

hi lads
just wanted to ask if anyone has managed to go 500 fsb+ with an e8600 as i am struggling to get past 440, thank god i have 10x multiplier but i have seen go beyong 500+
would be interested to know what your settings in the bios are,appreciate any help with this.
regs
paul

Have you disabled all this :

******Advanced BIOS Features******

CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdgserv

Yep..I have the e8600 with OCZ Reaper..Trick was to use 200FSB..Volt was 3.0
Air cooled. drop the cpu X

3.0 volt ? nice tip :p
03-19-2009, 11:57 PM
XpuctoC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpr_02

Hey, this doesn't have to do with overclocking:

If I want to raid, what would be better to use on this mobo? The Gigabite sata connectors (purple) or the south bridge sata connectors (orange)?

Does anybody know the difference between these two types of sata ports?

Yelow ones are connected to the intel ICH10R controller, the purple to the JMicron. Better use the yellow - you will have better bandwith, moreover the JMicron chip gets too hot and needs passive cooloing.
03-20-2009, 12:12 AM
Lsdmeasap

Quote:

Originally Posted by xEnergie

Hi, recently I've just purchased the EP45-UD3R along with a Q9950. I was looking through the bios and the memory settings are really confusing to me. Can someone explain the memory dividers to me please.

(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ ???MHz ] <-- not sure this setting
System Memory Multipler.........................[ ??? ] <-- not sure this setting

You can set MCH Latch to Auto and choose from all the available Memory multipliers for all straps, or Set to one strap close to or above your FSB and use only those Multipliers.

You can of course use lower then FSB Strap, and it will be better but much harder to keep stable

Each Strap has a pre-defined set of Memory Multipliers for it. Here are what those are for each >>
http://i43.tinypic.com/xoedef.png
03-20-2009, 12:42 AM
cholo777

hi there

[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3729193]Have you disabled all this :

******Advanced BIOS Features******

CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

hi
yes all of these are disabled,apart from no-execute memory protect,quite strange as i have lowered he multiplier to 8x and tried 500fsb and it will not boot,even relaxed the ram timings abd run that slower to see if it make a difference,hots a wall literally,must be something silly

dont quite follow what that guy above recommended - 200fsb and volt 3,0 makes no sense to me.
regs
paul
03-20-2009, 12:43 AM
cholo777

hi

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdgserv

Yep..I have the e8600 with OCZ Reaper..Trick was to use 200FSB..Volt was 3.0
Air cooled. drop the cpu X

m8 i dont quite follow what you are suggesting, you talking about the 200 strap and whats the 3.0 volt. can you explain in detail,many thanks
regs
paul
03-20-2009, 04:07 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholo777

hi
yes all of these are disabled,apart from no-execute memory protect,quite strange as i have lowered he multiplier to 8x and tried 500fsb and it will not boot,even relaxed the ram timings abd run that slower to see if it make a difference,hots a wall literally,must be something silly

Do you set the pl manually ? try filling in a template where you are at now mate
03-20-2009, 05:24 AM
ninjaskija

I own the EP45T-UT3P (DDR3 version) and i have a problem with stability at 500 FSB.
What i did was to first set al values manually on BIOS (left side) the adjust MCH ref(0.7v), CPU ref(0.76v) and voltages(CPU=1.2v-LLC Enabled,MCH=1.3).CPU is @3G (6x500)
The problem is that is stable with 2 gigs of ram but not stable with 4 ( i own a corsair kit 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.8v).
I will come back with a template later after i get home maybe u can get a better look and give me a tip...
Where should i look??
Thanx
03-20-2009, 07:00 AM
DiscoTech

Crossfire 4870 512MB Performance

I couldn't pass up picking 2 4870 512MBs at a good price. :)

Should I sell my UD3P and get a DFI DK X48-T2RSB plus or a LT X48-T2R? :confused: The prices are close.

How much performance will I be losing when I crossfire at 1680*1050 max AA and max FF? :shrug:

Thank you :up:
03-20-2009, 10:43 AM
cholo777

hi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Do you set the pl manually ? try filling in a template where you are at now mate

hi
what do you mean when you said do you set up the pl manually,i will post all my settings a little bit later.many thanks for your help.
kind regards
paul
03-20-2009, 12:01 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaskija

I own the EP45T-UT3P (DDR3 version) and i have a problem with stability at 500 FSB.
What i did was to first set al values manually on BIOS (left side) the adjust MCH ref(0.7v), CPU ref(0.76v) and voltages(CPU=1.2v-LLC Enabled,MCH=1.3).CPU is @3G (6x500)
The problem is that is stable with 2 gigs of ram but not stable with 4 ( i own a corsair kit 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.8v).
I will come back with a template later after i get home maybe u can get a better look and give me a tip...
Where should i look??
Thanx

I need to give more than 0.08 over the required voltage, my board's DDR3 Vdimm fluctates like hell... strange while the DR2 version is rock stable...

Eg with 1.65 Corsair 1600C8 I7 dimms I need to set 1.72 to get 1.65 in reality, with the OCZ 1.9 Dimms I need to set 2.04 to be stable at 1600mhz C7.

For 4gb I need 1.32-1.34Mch NB voltage at 500FSB-1600Mhz...I'm totally blocked at 580FSB Hyperpi Stable, I can boot higher (600FSB) but the rig is far from stable... same counts for my DDR2 board...

I keep MCH reference just a tad below 0.75, 0.7 is too low here

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholo777

hi
what do you mean when you said do you set up the pl manually,i will post all my settings a little bit later.many thanks for your help.

Static tRead Value [10] do you set that setting manually or is it still on AUTO ?
03-20-2009, 01:01 PM
ninjaskija

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I need to give more than 0.08 over the required voltage, my board's DDR3 Vdimm fluctates like hell... strange while the DR2 version is rock stable...

Eg with 1.65 Corsair 1600C8 I7 dimms I need to set 1.72 to get 1.65 in reality, with the OCZ 1.9 Dimms I need to set 2.04 to be stable at 1600mhz C7.

For 4gb I need 1.32-1.34Mch NB voltage at 500FSB-1600Mhz...I'm totally blocked at 580FSB Hyperpi Stable, I can boot higher (600FSB) but the rig is far from stable... same counts for my DDR2 board...

I keep MCH reference just a tad below 0.75, 0.7 is too low here

Static tRead Value [10] do you set that setting manually or is it still on AUTO ?

tx for the info.. adjusting..
03-20-2009, 02:31 PM
cholo777

ok

Static tRead Value [10] do you set that setting manually or is it still on AUTO ?[/QUOTE]

i will have a look at that..talk soon
regs
paul
03-21-2009, 06:23 AM
pascalbrown

I gave up with my P5Q-e and jumped onboard with a UD3P. Now I'm once again lost in the world of a new bios. I've never had a gigabyte before so this is a double whammy. Basically, I was prime stable on my P5Q-e at 470*9. I'm aiming higher than that now with my Q9650.

I've got Bios F7. Good choice or bad?

I've installed easytune but I'm not exactly sure how it works. When I load it up it shoes different values than those I've set in the BIOS. Why is that? Should it do that? EDIT- I've found a link explaining why easytune shows different values than the bios! Very helpful!

Now, what value(s) does one adjust when a particular core fails. On my P5Q-e I could adjust the reference for core 0/2 and for 1/3 seperately. What's the equivalent settings on the UD3P? My starting point has been Jor3Bler's template for 489*9. I am only running 2gb though, so perhaps I could reduce some of the MCH values?

Sorry for being such a noob but I really feel like one right now!
03-21-2009, 03:47 PM
ninjaskija

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I need to give more than 0.08 over the required voltage, my board's DDR3 Vdimm fluctates like hell... strange while the DR2 version is rock stable...

Eg with 1.65 Corsair 1600C8 I7 dimms I need to set 1.72 to get 1.65 in reality, with the OCZ 1.9 Dimms I need to set 2.04 to be stable at 1600mhz C7.

For 4gb I need 1.32-1.34Mch NB voltage at 500FSB-1600Mhz...I'm totally blocked at 580FSB Hyperpi Stable, I can boot higher (600FSB) but the rig is far from stable... same counts for my DDR2 board...

I keep MCH reference just a tad below 0.75, 0.7 is too low here

How about the MCH/DDR ref? u keep it on auto or set it manually like 50% of
DDR voltage?
03-21-2009, 05:23 PM
xEnergie

opinions on f8 bios? im currently on f5 and was wondering should i upgrade to f8. thanks!
03-22-2009, 05:52 AM
ninjaskija

I think that most of my instability problems are caused by the fact that the NB is overheating. I can't keep my finger on it more than 2 sec even at 1.32v. I changed thermal paste but i think without active cooling it won't get anymore stable than this. Next week ill try to a vent aroudn there to see if it changes something.
03-22-2009, 06:53 AM
mreld3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by xEnergie

opinions on f8 bios? im currently on f5 and was wondering should i upgrade to f8. thanks!

Im on the new f8 and to be honest; I cant really tell a whole lotta difference.
The s3 is still broke and my results (overclocking) really are about the same.
But it is really easy to change the bios on these boards with a usb stick.
Only problem is that you have to re-do all your settings. Which I can now do with my eyes closed after trying many new bioses. There is no change log with a new bios so why it is "new" is a mystery. I really haven't found a bad one yet, except the f7 ( i think it was) that gave error messages with ET6. Other than that "I" really haven't noticed much difference since f4.
03-22-2009, 07:25 AM
xEnergie

^thanks for the input +1
Now onto another question. Are you guys able to run your memory at 1T command rate?
I have mushkin redlines 2*2gb pc8000 and I've changed the command rate to 1T in bios but cpuz still shows as 2T.
03-22-2009, 09:43 AM
XpuctoC.

No matter if it works or not in the BIOS - you never would be able to boot at 1T with 2x2GB DDR2 memory at this speed.
03-22-2009, 06:21 PM
ghost_recon88

I'm currently trying for P95 Blend stable. I'm on BIOS F4 with a 1.0 revision board. I can get it stable for about 50 mins before 1 core will fail in the large FTT test. I can pass Small FTT though :confused: I'm pretty sure I just need to tweak the NB somehow. Here are my current settings, any idea on what I need to tweak? I can run 4GHz totally stable with 1.2500v vcore set in the BIOS (CPU-Z 1.248v under load).

4.1GHz stable

Code:

Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ] CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ] Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.5 ] CPU Frequency 4.1GHz............................[ 483 x 8.5 ] ******Clock Chip Control****** CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 483 ] PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ] C.I.A 2 [Disabled] ******Advanced Clock Control****** CPU Clock Drive..........................[1000mV] PCI Express Clock Drive................[700mV] CPU Clock Skew..........................[150ps] MCH Clock Skew..........................[150ps] ******DRAM Performance Control****** Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ] MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ] System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00B ] Memory Frequency 1066............................[ 966 ] DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ] CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ] tRCD............................................[ 5 ] tRP.............................................[ 5 ] tRAS............................................[ 12 ] ******Motherboard Voltage Control****** Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ] CPU Vcore [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.28725 ] CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.34 ] CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.57 ] CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ] MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.340 ] MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ] MCH/DRAM Reference [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.050v ] ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500v ] ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.00v ] DRAM Voltage [ 1.800v]...................[2.100v] DRAM Termination [0.900v]...................[1.050v] Channel A Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v] Channel B Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v]
03-22-2009, 06:37 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost_recon88

I'm currently trying for P95 Blend stable. I'm on BIOS F4 with a 1.0 revision board. I can get it stable for about 50 mins before 1 core will fail in the large FTT test. I can pass Small FTT though :confused: I'm pretty sure I just need to tweak the NB somehow. Here are my current settings, any idea on what I need to tweak? I can run 4GHz totally stable with 1.2500v vcore set in the BIOS (CPU-Z 1.248v under load).

4.1GHz stable

Code:

Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ] CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ] Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.5 ] CPU Frequency 4.1GHz............................[ 483 x 8.5 ] ******Clock Chip Control****** CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 483 ] PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ] C.I.A 2 [Disabled] ******Advanced Clock Control****** CPU Clock Drive..........................[1000mV] PCI Express Clock Drive................[700mV] CPU Clock Skew..........................[150ps] MCH Clock Skew..........................[150ps] ******DRAM Performance Control****** Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ] MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ] System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00B ] Memory Frequency 1066............................[ 966 ] DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ] CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ] tRCD............................................[ 5 ] tRP.............................................[ 5 ] tRAS............................................[ 12 ] ******Motherboard Voltage Control****** Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ] CPU Vcore [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.28725 ] CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.34 ] CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.57 ] CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ] MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.340 ] MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ] MCH/DRAM Reference [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.050v ] ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500v ] ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.00v ] DRAM Voltage [ 1.800v]...................[2.100v] DRAM Termination [0.900v]...................[1.050v] Channel A Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v] Channel B Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v]

I have the Mushkin Redline pc2 8000's also, had a hard time getting things stable with them so switched it out for gskills and went with the 5:6 devider. Haven't seen a clock skew in other guys templates set like yours. Your vcore looks great. I was able to do 4.0ghz on my 9550 at 700/700/0/0, any higher and needed 800/900/0/0. Never messed with the DRAM a/b reference or DRAM termination so not sure about those.
03-22-2009, 10:52 PM
xEnergie

Hi Guys, I'm trying to get 3.6GHz stable and my 4th core failed Prime after 7:52hrs. I wasn't home to check then but when I stopped at 15:17hrs later, the other 3 cores were all fine. I'm going to lap my cpu in hopes of achieving lower temps. If you have any suggestions in the mean time that would help me get stable, it would greatly help. Thanks!
Temps:
load
0, 72
1, 69
2, 72
3, 69

idle
0, 49
1, 45
2, 49
3, 45

Code:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9 Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0 CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.60GHz Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100 C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.50A Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000MHz DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................ 5 tRCD ......................................... 5 tRP'........................................... 5 tRAS.......................................... 15 Advanced Timing Control tRRD........................................... 4 tWTR.......................................... 4 tWR............................................ 6 tRFC........................................... 52 tRTP........................................... 3 Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 1 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength ............................ 800MHz Channel A Static tRead Value.........................: 7 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Channel B Static tRead Value.........................: 7 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control Voltage Type.………... Manual CPU CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.238V CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.20V CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.50V CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.76V CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Does not have this option MCH/ICH MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.24V MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.76V MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.91V ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.50V ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.10V DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0V DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.91V Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.91V Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.91V Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] LLC Enabled
03-23-2009, 05:19 AM
Ghostleader

Quote:

Originally Posted by xEnergie

Hi Guys, I'm trying to get 3.6GHz stable and my 4th core failed Prime after 7:52hrs. I wasn't home to check then but when I stopped at 15:17hrs later, the other 3 cores were all fine. I'm going to lap my cpu in hopes of achieving lower temps. If you have any suggestions in the mean time that would help me get stable, it would greatly help. Thanks!

Set MCH Reference to ~0,840 when CPU Term is 1,20, then bring CPU Term back to what you want it.

It should not be that hard to get it stable at 3,6 with bus 400.

You can check out my post 2120, it was the MCH ref who was the make or break.
03-23-2009, 07:00 AM
simone18

this weekend i try to improve my max fsb...and thanks to my new crucial ballistix tracer i've managed to do this:

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/531818.png

with setfsb i've also seen 660, but not validated yet. maybe a little adjustment at vtt or gtl ;)
03-23-2009, 09:01 AM
xEnergie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostleader

Set MCH Reference to ~0,840 when CPU Term is 1,20, then bring CPU Term back to what you want it.

It should not be that hard to get it stable at 3,6 with bus 400.

You can check out my post 2120, it was the MCH ref who was the make or break.

How were your temps running at those settings?

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