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08-18-2008, 09:53 AM
Alex-Ro

For ram overclocking choose Biostar.
08-18-2008, 10:02 AM
DiscoTech

P5Q-D & TPower I45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

how is this motherboard for quad cpu + micron ddr2 overclocking on air?

cpu is q9450, ram is 4x1GB micron d9gmh.

I am trying to choose between this motherboard and Tpower I45?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-Ro

For ram overclocking choose Biostar.

Thanks!

What about the cpu overclock? is the p5q-d more quad friendly?

Do you think that the Asus 16-phase helps? (Biostar is 4 Phase)

I do not care about the ExpressGate or the overclocking software in Windows.
08-18-2008, 10:19 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.v.r

It is only me who have problems with multip.. In bios 1103 an 1201 ? E8400 an E8600
no problems with bios 0506 an 0803.
but I have a problem at all bioser,it is strap 400 :( would like to be able to use it with 500/600 fsb.

Can someone explain why in bios 1201 on a QX6800 if I set to anything lower to 9x multi it reverts back to 9x multi after reboot no matter what strap/fsb/speed etc, it is set on otherwise. Is there some sort of multiplier setting bug in 1201 that I missed?
08-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Polizei

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Can someone explain why in bios 1201 on a QX6800 if I set to anything lower to 9x multi it reverts back to 9x multi after reboot no matter what strap/fsb/speed etc, it is set on otherwise. Is there some sort of multiplier setting bug in 1201 that I missed?

You can set the multiplier in the AI Tweaker settings, but then you can also set it somewhere else - it's in the next section to the right in BIOS. Make sure that's not set on Auto... it's the same place where you can disable/enable Virtualization, C1E, etc etc etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulû

Hey there :)
I want some advise about stability .

Here are my settings:

FSB : 425 x 8
PCIE: 100
DRAM : 1278 // 5-5-5-15 (trfc:40) @2.1v
DRAM STATiC READ.. : DISABLED
VCORE: 1.36875(VID=1,3125)
CPU PLL : 1.58
FSB TERM. : 1.46
DRAM: 2.1
NB: 1.34
SB: 1.10
PCIE SATA: 1.50
LLC: ENABLED
SPREAD CPU/PCI SPECTRUM : DISABLED
C1E: DISABLED
MAX CPUID LIMIT: DISABLED
INTEL VIRT. : DISABLED
CPU TM : ENABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT: ENABLED
MEMORY REMAP: ENABLED
MEMORY HOLE : DISABLED

I tried prime95(large FFTs) for about 2 hours and it was stable until 125 minutes ; it gave error on core0 .
Would you give me an advice about my settings?
Thank you. :)

Try playing with the GLT references for cores 1/3 and 0/2... Sometimes one of the four cores will be weaker than the others and require more voltage.
08-18-2008, 11:09 AM
davidoff619

stable at 1.45 but quite hot 76 degrees

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidoff619

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1002 tried on 800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 tried on 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55 tried on auto
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
__________________

right theses are my settings will boot and stay stable for about 16 mins tops some time a few seconds i cant understand why. i only have the 4 pin power in not all 8 pins. bios 1103 but going to 1201 when i go home 2moz ram in yello slots.

i also tried 465x8.5 with a lower v core and it stoped stable for 22 mins but nothing wants to work not even 450x9. if anyone has any templates for me to try then pm them me. and ill try in the morning. i need my rig rock solid stble for gaming temps not a problem 9800 gx2 and cpu watercooled.

thanks in advance will let you know how i get on

stable at 1.45 but quite hot 77 degrees on 2 cores then 69 on core 3 and 4 is this to high runs stable been going for 1 hour. i will try and drop voltage when its been stable for 2 hours uless you tell me its to hot thanks david
08-18-2008, 11:12 AM
truehighroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Can someone explain why in bios 1201 on a QX6800 if I set to anything lower to 9x multi it reverts back to 9x multi after reboot no matter what strap/fsb/speed etc, it is set on otherwise. Is there some sort of multiplier setting bug in 1201 that I missed?

I think I seen some one else complain about that as well.
08-18-2008, 11:20 AM
cadaveca

Yes, board needs new bios to properly support QX chips.
08-18-2008, 11:44 AM
MonsterDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterDK

I keep getting BSOD with the P5Q Deluxe. I've tried everything I can think of...

I get the BSOD randomly. Which can happen with an overclock and at stock. I've tried MEMTest and also OCCT Ram tests for several hours and also done these tests with all 4 sticks of RAM in the PC and each stick singly.
Both tests 100% fine.

CPU Temps are fine on the Q6600 Quad (38c per core)

I've tried a new PSU... dumped my Seasonic 600Watt and put in a 1000Watt Enermax (I know overkill!) and still the BSOD.

I've tried everything on Default and also setting the voltages manually... still BSOD.

But stressing it for large amounts of time does not cause it to happen.

Is there any way I can get more info from these BSODs so I am able to know where the problem is?

I'm running at the moment Vista Ultimate 64. I have tried Windows XP 32 and XP 64. All have the same issue.
I've tried BIOS 0704, 0803, 1103 now i'm back to 0610 (which is the most stable i've been on this board but still getting BSODs now and then)

Any help appreciated!

Anyone assist with this please?

Thanks in advanced! :)
08-18-2008, 11:45 AM
Tulû

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polizei

You can set the multiplier in the AI Tweaker settings, but then you can also set it somewhere else - it's in the next section to the right in BIOS. Make sure that's not set on Auto... it's the same place where you can disable/enable Virtualization, C1E, etc etc etc.

Try playing with the GLT references for cores 1/3 and 0/2... Sometimes one of the four cores will be weaker than the others and require more voltage.

Multiplier is set to 8 , not auto .
I played with GTL Refs.
Now i have :

GTL 0/2 : 0.630
GTL 1/3 : 0.670
CPU PLL : 1.58
FSB Term. : 1.48
NB : 1.30 ( was 1.34, it seems that , i have to set it high again )
NB. GTL REF: AUTO

With these settings i get error in small FFTs in 8 minutes.
I'll set NB to 1.34 now.
Any other advices ?
By the way, is my Vcore enough for 425x8 ?

Edit:
With GTL REFs set to 0.630 and 0.670 got error in 1 minute. :shakes:
Now set the GTL REFs to AUTO and increased Vcore by 0.00625 = 1.3750
08-18-2008, 12:15 PM
Budwise

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterDK

Anyone assist with this please?

Thanks in advanced! :)

what about bios 1201? Its supposed to have some memory compatibility fixes. Otherwise id say RMA the board.

Oh, forgot to say run a Drive Fitness Test for your hard drive. Ive seen bad HD's cause BSOD's plenty of times.
08-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Martin.v.r

GLT on auto ;) i can run 500x10 whit auto on GLT

bios 1103 is best to E8600
1201 slow,s the mem,try a run superpi,an look;)

low volt om vcore,set a high NB volt

bios 1103 E8600 @ 4.6GHZ vcore 1.38XXv an fsb 1.3/NB 1,5v or 4.6GHZ ´vcore 1.42500 an fsb 1.3,NB 1.26v
08-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Polizei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulû

Multiplier is set to 8 , not auto .
I played with GTL Refs.
Now i have :

GTL 0/2 : 0.630
GTL 1/3 : 0.670
CPU PLL : 1.58
FSB Term. : 1.48
NB : 1.30 ( was 1.34, it seems that , i have to set it high again )
NB. GTL REF: AUTO

With these settings i get error in small FFTs in 8 minutes.
I'll set NB to 1.34 now.
Any other advices ?
By the way, is my Vcore enough for 425x8 ?

Edit:
With GTL REFs set to 0.630 and 0.670 got error in 1 minute. :shakes:
Now set the GTL REFs to AUTO and increased Vcore by 0.00625 = 1.3750

Don't set your NB GTLref to auto... it will overvolt it.

Since core0 is the one that fails, you want that GTL to be higher... maybe .67 or .69 while core1/3 is .63.
08-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Tulû

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polizei

Don't set your NB GTLref to auto... it will overvolt it.

Since core0 is the one that fails, you want that GTL to be higher... maybe .67 or .69 while core1/3 is .63.

Okey, i'll do it.
But now

Vcore : 1.3750
PLL: 1.58
NB: 1.34
FSB TERM. : 1.48
GTL 0/2 , 1/3 : AUTO
GTL NB : AUTO
Stable for about 45 mins.(small FFTs)

As you said ; if it gives error again i'll change NB GTL REF.
Is there any danger to set the GTL REFs for CPU to AUTO ?
08-18-2008, 12:57 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Yes, board needs new bios to properly support QX chips.

You're kidding right? uhhhh . . What has it been almost 2 years QX chips have been out? I don't get it??? All my older asus boards going back 3 chipsets supported the QX multis? This can't be right. Anyway when you set the multi in the manual section it should automatically change it in the cpu section as well. Something just is messed up here. :mad:
08-18-2008, 01:05 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

You're kidding right? uhhhh . . What has it been almost 2 years QX chips have been out? I don't get it??? All my older asus boards going back 3 chipsets supported the QX multis? This can't be right. Anyway when you set the multi in the manual section it should automatically change it in the cpu section as well. Something just is messed up here. :mad:

Or it's only with 1201 and 65nm Quads , as the York here works fine mate...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/xgman.JPG

Can I have your template plz just to test your settings (don't go bonkers on the ram as I only have 4gb kits here)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterDK

Anyone assist with this please?

Thanks in advanced! :)

LLC enabled or Disabled ?
08-18-2008, 01:07 PM
xgman

I knew I shouldn't have sold my QX9650. Seriously, wtf?
08-18-2008, 01:08 PM
cadaveca

Can you adjsut multi up? I could not..10x would result in only one boot, then had to clear CMOS. That was enough for me to stop using the board, same qx9650...i mean really, all I want was 10x400, and couldn't get it.
08-18-2008, 01:10 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Can you adjsut multi up? I could not..10x would result in only one boot, then had to clear CMOS. That was enough for me to stop using the board, same qx9650...i mean really, all I want was 10x400, and couldn't get it.

Didn't try up. Wow, that is odd. There must be some explanation. I mean the board is quite nice otherwise. Anyone know what really is going on here?
08-18-2008, 01:14 PM
cadaveca

I figured..$200 for the board...yeah, I know why it's so cheap...because the deluxe is part of value line!

Anyway, I thought maybe I had some other component that caused the issue, but everything is now working fine on BlackOPs...
08-18-2008, 01:15 PM
Leeghoofd

for me up to 11 or so is no problem, have you guys tried a reflashn pop the battery and then see what happens could be a corrupt flash...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/xgman2.JPG
08-18-2008, 01:17 PM
cadaveca

Yep, even swapped out the bios chips and tried flashing the secondary. You could look back through the thread for when I mentioned it, but I got rid of the board...had no issues with my E6600 or Q6600, so I figured must have been bios issues with QX...:shrug: Crap I hope it wasn't a duff board as I sold it to someone I don't really know...crap!
08-18-2008, 01:23 PM
Leeghoofd

I usually run my Qx at 10 multi with 400FSB , I really haven't noticed any erratic behaviours with any bios... just with the E now I have some issues with LLC since 1201...

Well don't feel sad for the guy you sold it too... OC'ing is never warranted is it.. I sold my Qx9650@4ghz at 1.35 which I found very bad (CPU seriously degraded after my bench runs with the 780i), the new owner is so happy with it... he's having a ball...

And Xgman I'll pas it through mate, so your Qx is stuck at 9 in fact...
08-18-2008, 01:27 PM
RAdoxx

I can't get rid of an Unknown PCI Device in Device Manager :(

Got rid of Unknown Device by just letting the mobo-cd autostart but the other one is still there. I've disabled onboard audio, LAN2, firewire, IDE and expressgate in BIOS.
08-18-2008, 01:33 PM
Mumid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I usually run my Qx at 10 multi with 400FSB , I really haven't noticed any erratic behaviours with any bios... just with the E now I have some issues with LLC since 1201...

What LLC issues mate?
08-18-2008, 01:36 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mumid

What LLC issues mate?

If I enable it my board (P5Q-E) seems to crash randomly, while booting XP, during surfing,... this E8400 on it does 4ghz at 1.21vcore, I have to set 1.275 in bios to get there without LLC... With LLC even with 1.225 it isn't stable... I flashed back to 1103 and now I can use LLC again on the E mobo... I tried 2 reflashes but prob persists on my mobo...with 1201 bios...

My P5Q dlx has no isues with it at all...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAdoxx

I can't get rid of an Unknown PCI Device in Device Manager :(

Got rid of Unknown Device by just letting the mobo-cd autostart but the other one is still there. I've disabled onboard audio, LAN2, firewire, IDE and expressgate in BIOS.

Did you properly install all the ATI drivers mate ?

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