I downloaded the file twice and when I try to flash this it tells me that it is not an EFI BIOS. Any suggestions?
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1.34v is reasonable for air. You shouldn't have to worry about voltage being too high until about 1.45-1.5 on water, unless temps start getting too high.
Did you try forcing the flash by using the ROGConnect port and a usb stick?
I just installed 1404 w/ the modded option rom using Asus Update (part of suite II) and it worked just fine.
Cool! Thanks for the ideas, I'll give them a try this evening and let you know. :up:
I got it installed via AI Suite II successfully. Thanks everyone!
What's the best way to flash the BIOS on the R4F? Should I use ROG connect or just the EZ Flash 2?
I'm currently on 1202 and have got my overclock set up with Offset at 4.5Ghz. I'm quite happy with those overclock as it is Prime95 27.7 stable over a 22 hour run, but I am also having a problem with the computer waking up from sleep properly.
Do you guys think this is a BIOS issue? It happens on stock clocks too, so not sure if it is a MB issue. When it wakes up from S3 sleep RealTempGT shows the temps as 91 degrees on each core and the CPU speed seems to be locked at 1200Mhz, I guess it's in a throttled state? Could it possibly be an issue with my SSD? SSD is a Crucial M4 with 309 firmware. Should I try updating the firmware on that first to the latest before flashing to the latest BIOS?
It seems different people are having luck with different methods. I've used the ROG Connect method three times without problem, Anvil and Canis-X used AiSuite II to flash from Windows, and another guy from a different forum has been using EZ Flash exclusively. It's just personal preference, really.
Are real RST/RSTe drivers going to come out for our board? I still can't access S.M.A.R.T. information and I'm not even running a RAID setup.
Perhaps the problem is the software that you're using? With AIDA64 for instance I can read S.M.A.R.T. info including that of RAID drives.
Personally I would never flash any BIOS from Windows ever again. I've had much success in the past with this option as well, but once left with an empty BIOS chip while the system is still running. Reflashing just didn't work and the system could not be shut down because it would not boot up again. This is from the 680i days but still.
No. Your Vcore should be set to the value you want under load, not idle. Setting it to the value you want to idle at and then using LLC to raise that voltage to where you want your load voltage is generally a bad idea.
If you want your Vcore to lower during idle states, you should use Offset mode for setting the board to add a specified amount of voltage to the VID to reach your target load Vcore rather than having LLC overcompensate for VDroop and supply too much voltage.
If someone else could jump in and explain better, it would be appreciated.
Thank you very much for your explanation Random Murderer, I will try to find a tutorial for offset :D
It is better Vcore fixed or Offset?
I normally flash from BIOS but the ROM option update made me give the update utility a try. (as it wasn't recognized as a EFI bios using normal procedures)
The same happened a few weeks ago on an P8P67 Deluxe, again there were no issues and so I'll probably continue as long as there are option ROM updates that needs testing.
Can someone please help me
I am currently running 2 680GTX's in SLi on my RIVE
I have one card in PCI-E slot 1 & the other in slot 4 (as per the user guide)
I would like to add another 680 GTX to my setup so its 3 way SLi
The user manual says to put the cards in slots 1, 2 & 4 to give 16x8x16 (which is not a problem)
The question is, what do I do with my ASUS Xonar Xense sound card so the three cards stay at 16x8x16?
Hopefully someone will have the answer as google is not my friend & I have spent the last 5 hours looking at build logs. :shocked:
That's very true, there are a few easy ways to rectify the situation:
1) ROGConnect flashing doesn't even need a CPU or RAM installed. As long as the board is getting power, you can force a flash to the selected BIOS chip.
2) The BIOS chips are in DIP8 sockets for easy removal/replacement. I'm not sure about anyone else here, but I have the ability to flash DIP8 ROMs with a USB programmer, so if worst comes to worst, I can just remove the BIOS chip from the RIVE, put it in the programmer, go to another computer and flash the BIOS using that computer and the programmer. Even without a programmer, you can buy pre-programmed BIOS chips online and just pop the new chip in the socket.
3)Swap the two chips and boot. It'll say something like "Updating iROG 1." Once that's done, you should be good to go.
Depends on the situation. I use fixed so I can't really comment on how to properly set up an offset.
In this situation, I'm just going to point you towards Raja or LardArse. They can answer your question much better than I can.:p:
The only way would be to put the Xense in the x1 slot, which would require the bottom-most 680 to have a single-slot cooler(pretty much the only way that'll happen is if you're watercooling).
Otherwise, you'll have to put the Xense in x16 slot 5, which will reduce your 680s to x16/x8/x8.
Ok thanks Random Murderer ;)
Thanks Random Murderer for the very quick response.
I should have explained that the cards all have water blocks fitted.
I have looked at the x1 slot but there is not enough room as the cards take up two spaces due to the double size backing plates.
This means the sound card will fit on the board but the rear of the card hits the card in slot 4.
Do I have another option for a sound card?
Or will in not see much of a decrease @ x16/x8/x8
Honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Theoretically, PCIE 3.0 x8 has the exact same bandwidth of PCIE 2.0 x16. Extensive testing by TPU's W1zzard proved this so with a GTX680 and HD7970 on an IVB platform. His test reults show that even running both cards ran at full PCIE 3.0 x16, there is a max of 1% performance increase over 3.0 x8.
Granted he tested only a single GPU setup, I wouldn't imagine you'd be able to saturate all of that bandwidth even with 3 GTX680s.
Does the R4E show any decline in OC capabilities with filling all 8mem slots instead of only 4?
I'm asking because I destroyed 2 R2G by filling 6slots and my current R2E has bad bclk overclocking and high degradation from filling 6slots.
I don't want another $400 board that stops living an overclocking life after only 2years.
3.1.0.1085 RSTe and the S.M.A.R.T reading in AIDA64 is working fine for me, Using the modded bios,
And anyone having problems installing the modded bios Try using the AI Suite to update/flash the bios, Should work fine.
latest BIOS 1404 for the Rampage 4 Formula with the latest Intel ROM 3.1.0.2101 modded
install via AI Suite.
You prefer using the Offset or Normal Vcore for your OC?
For the LLC, you use Medium or High (or other)?
I tested the offset, and I find that the voltage (Vcore) is not really stable
Probably because it's based on the VID, and the VID is not "stable"
For me, the VID does not vary much between 4.5 and 4.6Ghz (Core Temp and Aida64)
4.5GHz: 1.3511v
4.6Ghz: 1.3561v
Thanks ;)
Not sure if you've seen this or not:
Rampage IV Extreme UEFI Guide for Overclocking
It's a very informative read, but you should start with post #7. tijgert had a conversation with Raja about using offset, and Raja does a great job of explaining how to set up offset to get your desired voltage.
As for your opening question, I use High LLC and Normal VCore. I don't bother with power-saving features when overclocking, so having the processor run at full clock speed and full voltage all the time doesn't bother me one bit. However, I do know there are people who prefer to leave SpeedStep and the like enabled when overclocked to reduce power consumption, and for that reason there is the option for VID offset.
BTW, I hate being the only one that responds. C'mon people! I'm far from being as knowledgeable as most of you who have posted in here before, so why am I the only one answering questions?
Yes I read it, I asked the opinion of users about their preferences ;)
To know the VID to 4.5 or 4.6Ghz, look with AIDA64, Core Temp, etc... or other?
But I find that the voltage is more stable in Manual (Vcore fixed) with the offset, in Load (With High LLC)
Thanks ;)
Personally, I use CoreTemp to check my VID. For reference, CoreTemp reads my VID as 1.3110V at 4.7GHz.
Yes, someone else previously mentioned that they found their system was stable both ways, but offset required more voltage to reach full stability. As I mentioned before, I don't use offset, so I'm not really going to be of great help in this matter.
Ok, thanks for your help ;)
I will await the opinion of those who use ^^
I see you have the Samsung ram,
With Samsung ICs (Dominator GT 4x4Gb 2133 C9 1.5v), how much can I OC?
2400 C9 (may be C8) to 1.65v, it is possible?
I used this great guide to overclock with offset vid.: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=0
However, there is a bug in the bios which causes instability after s3 resume beyond 4.6ghz.
I've just overclocked my 3930K to 4.5Ghz using Offset and am having a resume from sleep issue. When I resume from sleep RealtempGT shows temps of 91 degrees on all cores and the multiplier seems to be stuck on 12, like the CPU is in a throttled state. Is this a similar issue?
I get a hang at a "67 "error which i found was a dead ram slot which sucks cus it wont boot with that slot filled which is needed for everything except single slot.
So how sucky is asus rma?
it had a dead sound port out of the box but i was willing to live with it to avoid rma
Had a look at ROG forums and I found there are other people with the same issue. When waking up from sleep, temp sensors are stuck on 91 degrees and multiplier is locked to x12. The two threads I looked at no one was able to find a solution. btw this happens on stock clocks too.
Anyone else had this problem here?
Wonder if this is a similar issue I noticed, I installed bad video card drivers that reacted to a program I normally use. I was getting a few blue screens while one program I used, was in use, upon restart from the crash I would see all my cores temps go through the roof. The temps were fine but the sensors per core where saying they were way higher then they should have been, the main core reading was normal though. I never noticed the multi lock, didn't even check that, just restarted my comp and the sensors went back to normal.
From this thread:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...highlight=0017
And the actual link to the bios that fixes the sleep issue:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0cbf58f7.html
Page 7, post #67 from the ROG site.
This bios is the only one where I can easily OC (above 4.5) and not get sleep/resume issues. It shows up as bios version 0017, date 4/20/2012.
Do I need more Vcore if I changed from 3 x 6970s to 4 x 7970s.
My whole system is not stable anymore and I can't seem to stabilize it. No matter how much Vcore I put in. Its still give me the 0x9c BSOD and even if I try to raise VTT, same thing. Does the VCCSA has something to do with more PCIe cards?
Yes I have a New PSU, it is the LEPA G 1600 (1600W Obviously)
Ok, I will try this, thank you very much MR. Too Short. So i'll crank VCCSA, I thought it was only for the RAM and BCLK.
Because in RAJA UEFI guide, he doesn't mention the VCCSA as a PCI-E Controller voltage. Thats why I was confused.
At 4.725Ghz, my cpu is pumping 1.41v and is at 74'C max, I think my 3930k chip is average. I heard some owners getting higher Frequencies with lower voltage and temperature.
Here I posted a pic of what I'm talking about:
Attachment 128407
Wow, thanks a lot my friend. Can't have a clearer answer.
I just had a minor loss of power due to a simple overload of one of the power sources in my apartment. No big deal, stuff like this happens from time to time so I just resets the power and everything is back to normal, or at least so I think..
My desktop computer running Antec Quattro 1200W, Intel Core i7-3960X and Asus Rampage IV Extreme etc.. is now completely silent. The lamps on the motherboard lights up, but the system won't fire at all neither when I hit the power button on my chase nor when I hit the power button on the motherboard itself. How come a minor loss of power (with no overvolting due to thunderstorms or anything) can cause this amount of damage to a system of this calibre?
What do you think might be the cause, and which hardware might be to blame? I suspect the power supply as the obvious option when the entire system wont fire at all, but as the motherboard and the power supply itself lights up when I connect the power cord it seems somewhat unlikely? Perhaps I'm on my fourth faulty Rampage IV Extreme motherboard in just half a year, but what would be the odds of that? Might I have my second faulty Intel Core i7-3960X CPU in just half a year, but that seems downright silly considering how low the odds are for faulty processors in the first place.
God damn how much trouble I have to go through with this LGA2011 platform, I haven't had this much trouble with a platform since I had to deal with nVIDIA nForce generation 5-7 chipsets...
Switch PSU, had the same problem with one of my rigs here and the PSU had died.
I would definitely look at your PSU. I would also take a hard look at the power lines to and in your home. The odds of 3 faulty mobos and a single faulty CPU in one platform build are already beyond astronomical. The move to the 3rd new mobo should have sent the flare up something else is amiss, let alone the need to replace a faulty CPU.
There is no problem with my other desktop computer, nor is there any problem with my file-server and they've both been running pretty much 24/7 during the same time period as my LGA2011 desktop has gone through it's phases.
I'm not quite so sure it's the PSU anymore as testing with my old Arctic Cooling 500W PSU gives the same result, the motherboard lamps light up but there is no way to get the system to fire up.
Replacing the PSU did the trick! Seasonic P-1000 it is.
Good to hear it worked out then :)
Hi Guys,
I jumped to the X79 platform in January. My goal was to build an awesome gaming and video editing machine. Unfortunately, the computer I have built has seen nothing but issues since day one. The most recent issue appears to be with my RAM. I ran Memtest last night and I immediately saw errors. I am sending the RAM off to RMA today. My question is how do I know if it is the RAM causing the issue and not the motherboard? I am so frustrated I am tempted to RMA everything I have that is under warranty and starting fresh. Should I just cut my losses and RMA my motherboard and CPU along with my RAM or should I wait for the RAM to come back and see if that solves the issue. I have just started my own business and I need this computer up and running.
Thank you
System Specs:
Asus Rampage 4 Extreme
Intel 3930k
G.Skill Ripjaw Z Series 16GB 2133
EVGA Vanilla GTX 680 x 2
Intel Cherryville 520 180GB Raid 0
Silverstone 1500 watt PSU
Previous issues - Gigabyte UD5 - Receieved bent CPU pins and returned
- ASUS Pro (I forgot the name) Motherboard x79 - Wouldn't boot RMA leading to full return
- OCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSDs (RMA Currently in RMA)
- G.Skill Ripjaw Z Series (16GB 2133 Currently in RMA)
Hey guys...
Got a R4Gene 2nd hand... It's hanging at the dreaded A2 post code. I've let it sit for over an hour and it didn't come out of it. I've tried my gpu in all three sockets... The GPU is confirmed to work. I plugged it into my rampage 3 extreme and it works perfectly...
Not sure what to do now...
Edit: nevermind, used usbflashback and went to bios 1404 and everything seems copacetic now.
Hey guys what are the main voltages and settings for CPU overclock i couldn't get my 3939k stable at 4.8 but gone off another guys bios settings and have got it 100% stable with them want to try higher but without going through every setting to find out what setting has made it stable if this makes sense
Just a warning to fellow XS members. Some of you may already know that this is a common problem with Asus design, but...
Beware of the Asus Q-Shield (I/O shield)! I'm on my second RIVE now and the shield just won't fit any case properly. It may go into it's place but when you are placing the motherboard, it just won't go there. Be extra careful not to scratch your board with the standoffs! I finally managed to get my mobo into place but then the shield is greatly bent outwards of the case (hard to explain, like it's bent from the center outwards).
I did some googling and this maybe a common problem with the Q-Shield since there is some extra foam in it...and after all, it's just a piece of metal. But I wouldn't want to destroy my mobo with it.
Two new bios release the same day according to the Asus DL website. Ver 2002 and 2003.
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...-ASUS-2003.zip
Hey borntowin, how are the TridentX's working on the RIVE? :)
Looks like ASUS is actually using the same codebase for both the RIVE and RIVG. Nice, considering the matx version of the rampage boards always had bios update issues before. Now we're getting the same bios versions on the same days!
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...mpage_IV_GENE/
Anybody have a clue what the difference between Bios 2002 and 2003 is? Both state system satbility improvemnets as key changes.
Thanks, M
If I understood for the new bios, must first do the update of the "CAP Converter" and after do the upadate the bios?
Thanks
I updated it with the CAP converter and follow by the CAP bios file. You will not be able to see the CAP bios file with EZ Flash 2 before you update the CAP converter. One thing to take note that it will flash the both bios 1 and 2 as I can see both bios LED blinking none stop before the complettion of update.
Anybody using the trident X 2400 ram on this board i cant seem to get any better timings out of them if anybody has what setting are you using ??
Bios 2003 with Intel raid rom (2101)
Use Bios Flashback method to update to this new bios, as the EZ won't allow the flash, but using flashback will work, currently using it myself, extract both files onto a usb stick and follow this--
Attachment 128872
With the 2003, boot to ~15 seconds (more), it's the same for you?
Yes Iv added it to the bios myself, Only problem is, the only way to flash it. Is using Flashback. because Asus have a security validation on there bios's if you either try to flash via Asus Suite or EZ Flash 2, but Flashback bypasses this.
so you can use custom Bios, like the one Iv edited.
I will try revert later. Now flipped to bios2.
Edit: okay on bios2 i have flashed to 2003 so both bios chips are updated to 2003 & solved my booting issue. Later i will try your custom bios again. Tq
Edit2: successfully flash from official 2003 to your custom bios in windows using Asus update. Thx
Bios 2003 with Intel Raid Rom (2101) for Rampage 4 formula
For best results, upgrade to 2003 bios from asus, once done, Put my custom bios onto a USB stick and use the flashback method.
I have already renamed the bios so the Flashback can read it.
I can't test this bios, as i don't have the R4F, but its pretty much same method of adding it to the bios,
So please use at your own risk,
2xxx Bioses provide Fast boot option to speed up boot times especially at resets.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/g7wg2.jpg
You can adjust post delay time to be longer (if for example you find it hard to enter BIOS)
You can disable Fast boot to make it post not as fast during resets
ONLY IF 2003 BIOS or NEWER
To Flash back to 1xxx.ROM, Rename 1xxx.rom to ERALL.ROM and Use USB Flashback
Thank you very much. I've flashed the BIOS and it is working very good. Here is a comparison between the 1404 and 2003 in ATTO with A-DATA SX900 64GB SSD without overclock on anything:
1404 STOCK
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5726/nomod.th.jpg
1404 WITH MOD
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/921/modod.th.jpg
2003 STOCK
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8...03stock.th.jpg
2003 WITH MOD
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/647...2003mod.th.jpg
Can you mod 2003 BIOS with Intel raid rom (2101) for ASUS RAMPAGE 4 GENE ??
I installed the CAP Converter.rom, and it directly to the updated bios 2003, is this normal? (not needed File "Rampage-IV-Extreme-ASUS-2003.CAP")
CAP Converter installed with EZ-Flash and I have had the EC firmware updates, etc.
Stupid question (yes I know), "both extract files onto a USB stick", ok but this 2 files are useful, then?
Before there was only one
And you have the same (version iROG, ME)?
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5128/biosy.png
Thanks ;)
Both files are the same, only difference is the extension (.Cap and .Rom) other than that they both the same, I wasn't sure which file it would read, So I put both of them on the USB stick to save time, And yes I have same version as you, Only thing custom bios changes is the Intel raid rom. hope that helps.
Bios 2003 with Intel Raid Rom (2101) for ASUS RAMPAGE 4 GENE
"For best results, upgrade to 2003 bios from asus, once done, Put my custom bios onto a USB stick and use the flashback method.
I have already renamed the bios so the Flashback can read it.
I can't test this bios, as i don't have the R4G, but its pretty much same method of adding it to the bios,"
So please use at your own risk,
Thank you for your explanation
I was surprised to not have the same version of "iROG-1" and "iROG-2"
You have the option "Post Delay Time" in the bios? I have not had any new option in the "start" with the 2003 bios
I do not have all the options shown in the screen of LardArse
Thanks ;)
holystarlight, thanks for your bios ;)
There is a way to be sure that installing the modded bios to succeed?
well if it boots, that's a good enough sign! haha, But you should see on the Intel rom screen, (where it shows your Raids/HDD/SDD) the version number top right, it should be (3.1.0.2101)
Oh Fair enough, I haven't used AHCI mode, as all my HDD/SDD in raids, Can always set it to Raid mode, and reboot and see if it says (3.1.0.2101), And if it does, then all is good! And just switch back to AHCI mode, That's the only way I can think of at the moment, Tho I would of thought, If you can boot into windows using my bios, then it installed fine anyway.