Ofcourse! Im such an idiot :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hor$eman
So, back to my other question. Is this a good board? :shrug:
Ofcourse! Im such an idiot :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hor$eman
So, back to my other question. Is this a good board? :shrug:
So what do i do to improve my ram latency. Are there settings or something. Or is it just the ram and i should get better ram? My latency is like 60 and i know that's not great. So what do i do.
so i made a few adjustments to the ram.
Before i was gettings
800mhz so far. timings 4-4-4-15-2 latency is 62
everest-
Read 8422
Write 6933
Copy 6159
then i changed to 5-5-5-14-1 and changed trc to 24, twr to 6.
everest now
read 8599
write 7049
copy 6349
latency 61.3
aside from latency all is better. not major better but better nonetheless.
anyone know any other tricks?
Ok so i tried to clock the ram to 1066mhz. lcd poster got a init8042. what does that mean. it's listed in the manual as clear 8042 interface/initialize 8042 self test. but i dont know if that's bad.
It's fast as heck. Really fast. But some people are having issues that just should happen. This board and chipset where both rushed out without working out the bugs. Yeah it's the fastest thing i've ever owned. But it's also giving me issues galore. This is my 2nd Striker 2, and so far so good. But it's been 2 days of perfection. If you want sli there isnt many options really. You could go with a older board that has less issues. All the new chipsets from nvidia suck. But they are fast. Hot and fast i might add. Heat is a issue, even if you don't overclock at all. Which is a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemic
Hello guys, mobo is working great for me, but problem is that i cant overclock my memory even at 1070Mhz, they work nicely and stable at 1066Mhz, any suggestion what to try? they are 4x1GB sticks. Increasing voltage on memory or some chipset doesnt make any change. My FSB is 1820, unlinked, memory 1066, FSB-DIMM ratio is 11:13.
It so good I won two of them:D
Did you hit 4.5 with your Wolfie on water or....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hor$eman
I have both a Q6600 and a E8400 and I have return one of them soon. Havent decided which one yet. Want to try OC them both :rolleyes:
Since I have SLI right now Im thinking I might get a SIIF board. Also thinking about waiting and get a HD4870 or two instead and get away from the Nvidia chipset. :shrug:
But I found a pretty good deal at a SIIF board...:p:
very nice evo
ASUS Striker II Formula BIOS build 1401
Enjoy and report any bug!
oh my god <3 you pmp...hope that doesn't sound strange...or maybe it did..Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Hey guys, I have had bad luck with my striker II.
What happened was I built two identical rigs, one for myself, one for my uncle (I just ordered 2x of everything). My uncle's rig runs great, and has been running without any glitches for over a month.
However, my system would not run stable at STOCK settings with everything on auto except mem voltage which is set to 2.1v. I tried swapping ram, PSU, and even CPU, still froze while running prime95. I RMA'd that motherboard, and the one I received was STILL not running stable at default settings (I set everything identical to my uncle's rig). Also, motherboard #2 would not post if I set ram mhz anything higher than 850mhz (I have DDR2-1066)
I RMA'd that motherboard, and now motherboard #3 is running great...except I am having issues overclocking.
I kept getting BSOD at 3.4ghz, so I raised all of my voltages to what I consider pretty high, and I still got BSOD (I ran it overnight).
SLI-Enabled Memory: Enabled EXPERT
FSB: 1700
Mem mhz: 1066 (timings set to 5-5-5-15 2T)
Loadline Calibration ENABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.3375
PLL: Auto
VTT: 1.40
Mem voltage: 2.20
NB Voltage: 1.56
SB Voltage: 1.50
1.2v: 1.25v
I checked the ASUS forums, and many people have reported that after flashing to 1305, they can not get their OC's stable that were stable at 1303 and 1101. When I got this mobo I ran it at stock at 1101, and when that ran prime95 for 7 hours, I flashed to 1305, ran prime for 8 hours stock, and then tried to OC.
The first thing I am going to try when I get home from work is to re-flash to 1303 and try again.
Look how damn high that vcore and NB are! I don't know why on earth it won't run stable. (Similar reports of this behavior with 1305 are on the asus forum)
Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Would help if I listed specs *hits self on head*
CPU: Intel Q9450
Mobo: Asus Striker II Formula 780i - BIOS 1305
RAM: 2x2gb Corsair Dominators DDR2-1066
GPU: Asus 8800gts 512mb (G92)
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 850w
HD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb 3.0gb/s SATA
Please report if 1401 finally fixes video corruptions.
Is 1401 from asus? I haven't heard any info about it besides in this thread.
Trusth pmp, always used his BIOSes and they never killed any of my motherboards (so far :D)
slim, yes it does fix all video poo poo.
Haha, I wish you could say that over there in the Striker II Extreme thread :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
I wonder if it will fix my OC problems (I posted it a few comments up)
in a few days i'll have my sys back up and running and i'll try this bios if it works @ 4.5 and no gfx shat then i will be wanting to have e-sex with you pmp:ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Hahahahahahaha! :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:
this is my SLI score with 1305 bios, both cards clocked to 675/1475/2500
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7945/20759ve6.gif
and this SLI score with 1401 bios
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/461/21929pm0.gif
What did you change then in order to fix it?Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
I'm just curious what setting is still "faulty" in the 1305 version... thanks for your effort, highly appreciated:up:
Could someone who has a Q9450 that is overclocked, please do me a favor:
I can OC to 3.2 or 3.4 stable, but I need a CPU Voltage of 1.34xx. Any less than that, I will BSOD.
I have loadline calibration enabled.
With CPU Voltage set to 1.34xxx, BIOS voltage monitor reads it as 1.34.
CPU-Z vid is 1.264.
Could you please tell me your BIOS setting and your CPU-Z vid?
I just want to make sure I am not having an issue with loadline calibration.
I also cannot get my DDR2-1066 to 4-4-4-12 2T timings. I set my mem mhz to 900 and with 4-4-4-12 2T, I do not even post (freezes at logo). My mem voltage is set to 2.20v
EDIT: nevermind, I think CPU-Z is reporting it incorrectly.
cpu z = fail for vcore readings i use everist seams closer than most programs
and what is the spd info on ur ram? is it 800mhz cl.4 and 1066 cl.5? if its cl.5 try 5,5,5,15 @2.2
get it working and then tighten the timings up :rolleyes:
carl
im sure other's on here will help you to
Thanks for the info!Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoCarlos
My ram is 1066 cl.5. It runs fine 1066 5-5-5-15 2T. However, a few people told me that they set their ram to 900mhz 4-4-4-12 1T and they noticed better benchmark scores in everest (it lowered their latency). I tried both 4-4-4-12 1T and 2T and I couldn't get my system to post (hung at logo).
But my ram will run fine 5-5-5-15 2T 1066 @ 3.2ghz. (my mem voltage is at 2.20v)
Hi guys just rebuilt my computer after RIPPING out the SIIE and I am just beginning the OC process please remind of the settings to OC a QX9650 I want to run low FSB but high processor speed I am shooting for 4.2 and I was wondering if anyone has some tips I forgot all that I learned from before...
Honestly you really need D9 to run 900Mhz at 4-4-4-12 I'm not sure but if you bought that stuff (memory) recently you probably don't have it.. I'm not positive aout that but I have 2 kits and my new OCZ can't run the 9's with 4's but my old D9 Crucial can run a 1000 at 4-4-4-12 no problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by Merton
Thank you very much for that finding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guacomole
What timings do you recommened for DDR2-1066? (what is the optimal mhz and timings I can push it to, or should at least try to push it to?)
this is where i found the info about my tracer's have a look and see if a any info there will help some nice oc with the tracers but nv chipset wont do low lantacy imo
pc2-8500_roundup
Messing with my ram i got it 1000mhz for the first time. Never been able to b4. Maybe the new board, maybe the 1305 bios, who knows. Still don't know how to get latency down. But my everest score got better.
OLD
Read 8599
Write 7049
Copy 6349
Latency 61.3
NOW At 1000mhz
Read 8748
Write 7049
Copy 6605
Latency 61.7
ohhhh ballstik's
you should get 533mhz @ 4-4-4-9 /2.2v easy but lantacy is still about 60ns ish
and 600mhz @5-5-5-12 /2.2v lantacy is still gay @ this
and im still trying to figure that one out lol
So question, Should i up my voltage on my ram or if it works leave it alone? And latency, what does it mean. Sure less is good. But is there a percievable performance difference?
I only have E8400 OC experience, but I may not leave anything AUTO (PLL in ur case) if you do overclocking... either too high or too low will screw up your testing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Merton
Also it is suggested to try set the memory 5-5-5-18 2T and sub-timing less tight when you are working on CPU OC. There is a official suggestion in OCZ 2x2G when doing OC: set tRFC & tWTR to a larger value (in ocz case it's 54 & 8 respectively) so that OC will be successful.
When u got a relatively stable CPU OC profile, then you work on your memory... but if a 3.4G is a high ratio of OC at Q9450, maybe 1.2HT -> 1.3X would help coz I overcomed 4.5G on E8400 only when I tuned 1.2HT and PLL to 1.4-1.5 and 1.6-1.62 respectively.
Sorry I cannot give an exact same settings to your Q9450 but a good direction (thx to Horseman) is very important. I suggest you shouldn't raise only certain voltages without the others, coz it will not succeed and may damage the mobo... (coz I tried only NB raising/cpu vcore, no help at all)
Hope other Q9450 users may give more realistic opinion. Good luck at OC~
In my case 1401 BIOS is even better than 1305 for video playback stability, video performance and overclocking.
where does bios 1401 live??Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
Page before this one. here's the link. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1010Quote:
Originally Posted by Guacomole
spd for ballstick'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ed/timings.jpg
epp 1 = 4-4-4-12 @ 400 /2.2v
epp 2 = 5-5-5-15 @ 533 /2.2v
at 2.2v the ballsticks still have warranty
i have run mine on this mobo @ 4-4-4-9 533 /2.2v with no problem on the cpu oc side only problem lies the latency best i can get is 54nm @3ghz anythiung after 3ghz is in the 60s.. latency= >>(some thing to do with the time info is move between the mem and cpu)
look at the test grafhs on this link it shows you what ballsticks will work @ did post it up a few posts but well
http://icrontic.com/articles/pc2-8500_roundup/page7
How do you guys cool your heatsinks for the NB/SB? Extra fans?
Strange issue perhaps not related to the motherboard or any hardware. But you all know way more then most people. I went to bed last night and left Azureus running. Woke up and Azureus was gone. like it was closed. but when i tried to restart it, it wouldnt. just wouldnt do anything. like it wasnt even there. Everything else worked. I rebooted the pc and azurues is fine now. This never happened b4 and i've running that program tons of times. Any idea?
i just use 80mm fan on nb it dont really go above 55c 2000mhz 1.65vQuote:
Originally Posted by Anemic
sb was cooled by 120mm blowing over gfx and sb but the sb runs @60c ish with out so took it away
as in pic hope this helps
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...o/Image059.jpg
Doent sound hardware related to me. The program might have chrashed cuz of your OC tho...:rolleyes: Might just be OS related too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
Thanks EvoCarlos!Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoCarlos
Yeha, that helps alot. I guess I have to get a couple of more fans if I get this board. 50-60c dosent seem very hot for this MoBO, more like standard temps.
oh i did forget to say that i had removed the stock cooling block from mobo and applyed AS5 dont really make much diffrence imo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemic
with this 1401 bios, and nero show time, the video corruption is still :(Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
So my new issue isnt easy to pin down. I went to bed last night and left Azureus running. Woke up and Azureus was gone. like it was closed. but when i tried to restart it, it wouldnt. just wouldnt do anything. like it wasnt even there. Everything else worked. I rebooted the pc and azurues was fine. Went back to bed and woke up in the mourning i saw that a new toolbar on the side of the screen. it was created useing the right click from the taskbar where you can create a tool bar. Somehow the pc created it's own toolbar. I played arround awhile and i got a BSOD. i've got several today and have no idea why. I reinstalled the OS, and durring the install got a BSOD. And 2 since. Have no idea what is going on.
one of the crashes said "irql_not_less_or_equal
I'm not overclocking
Temps are all very good
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
how did you flash 1401?
i use a bootdisk with awdflash.
this version of awdflash below has all the command line options, just need to have a bootdisk.
version of awdflash with all the command line options here.
http://rapidshare.com/files/113389386/AWFL884.rar.html
this program makes a bootdisk that leaves room for the other files.
http://www.biosmods.com/download/bootdisk/drdos703.exe
make your bootdisk.
put the awfl884.exe file and 1401.bin bios file on the bootdisk after you extract them of course (i know you know this already)
:)
set the current bios to defaults and save, reboot and re-enter bios.
make the floppy the 1st boot device in bios, save and reboot with the floppy installed and you will get to the dos A:\ prompt
[example]
type awfl884 1401.bin /py /sn /cc /cd /cp /Wb /f /r
a few examples
cd = Clear DMI Data After Programming
cp = Clear PnP(ESCD) Data After Programming
Wb = Always Programming BootBlock
you can see all the options by typing awfl884/? and then hit enter.
after the flash is complete, the system will restart due to the /r command and back to the A:\ prompt.
power off rig, unplug it for 15 minutes as this is supposed to reset the chipset.
remove floppy, and reboot and re-enter bios and set the new bios to defaults, then adjust to your settings.
Oh, before anything, i always unplug everything but my keyboard (PS2) really perferred!
And only ONE stick of ram in 1st blue slot.
Okay guys I have started OCing my SIIF and the results are a little ridiculous... First of all I would like to say that my quad QX9650 can run up to 1730 FSB which is just great for my memory bandwith... I thought these boards were sort of inept when it comes to Quad OCing but I guess I was wrong.... I am on bios 1202 and I am running a QX9650 and 2 sticks of OCZ Reaper 2X2GB 1066 kits.. I am hitting the same scores as I did on the SIIE but with lower voltages.. I can't friggin believe it.. Here are some screen shots:
Attachment 81242
WOW that's all I have to say I am on water so don't let the CPU voltage freak you out but I am very impressed so far.. I am beginning a prime run and I will update tomorrow with some more results...
Kevin1970
This irq_not_less_or_equal is a memory problem.
So you either need better BIOS settings or your memory has problems.
Try default BIOS settings with 2v Vmem, 1.3v HT and 1.36 NB.
In case you have 4GB of system memory or more, relax tRFC.
Check your memory with Vista memtest (press tab during boot) or memtest 86+ (the latest version).
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Last night I was watching videos for hours, with nero showtime (vista 64).
Guacomole
What kind of NB cooling do you use to get 52°C SPP?
Two questions for everyone.
1. UPDT DMI error
Whenever I run everest, or Probe II or any other program reading sensors (real temp is a bright exception - what a great CPU temp program), the backlight comes on and after a while it states "UPDT DMI"
Then even if my system is perfectly stable otherwise, I sometimes (not always) get strange behavior from games or video playback including crashes.
Now I always restart my PC after I open any of these programs and never experience any problems this way.
Did anyone else notice that? The backlight (reads the time) should not light up or give me this UPDT DMI error. This is a BIOS problem.
2. nvstor64 error
A second problem I have is with the latest nvidia nforce chipset drivers.
With a 1TB disk in jbod I get in event viewer (computer managment) an nvstor64 error "A parity error was detected on \Device\RaidPort1".
This is not the case with smaller disks (ie my 250GB Hitatchi disks).
The previous 9.99 SATA RAID driver has no problems.
I need to completely remove the newest driver to get rid of this error.
Otherwise I keep getting it even with 9.99 drivers.
The disk is OK. I suspect there is something wrong with Vista 64 recognizing large perpendicular disks.
For example you may try a cmd window under Vista with any of the following commands on your disks
winsat disk -ran -write -drive c -v
winsat disk -flush -drive c -v
I get this "Error: Failed to properly assess the disk" only on the 1TB disk. My 250GB disks are OK.
On the other hand read benching the 1TB disk is OK
winsat disk -seq -read -drive c -count 1 -iocount 256 -seqsize 65536 -v
Nice bench. Have a look. This is a copy paste output I got from my raid-0 2X250GB.
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[0] - 101.053227 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[1] - 107.536913 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[2] - 109.020224 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[3] - 109.357951 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[4] - 103.364141 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[5] - 103.520928 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[6] - 96.963985 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[7] - 86.867162 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[8] - 95.087291 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[9] - 87.580111 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[10] - 88.480483 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[11] - 78.554025 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[12] - 71.082868 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[13] - 74.031876 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[14] - 68.966219 MB/s
Run[1] Type[0x01000001] Zone[15] - 61.795216 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:12.53
> Disk Performance 108.37 MB/s
What is wrong with large (1TB and perpendicular?) disks?
Do you have the same problem with your disks?
Smart disk and hard disk spread spectrum control - BIOS behavior
In case you want to enable smart disk and or spread spectrum control in BIOS, do it before you create any raid.
Otherwise you end up with conflicts. The same happens with the latest Nvidia Nforce SATA IDE and SATA RAID drivers and the RAIDTOOL (do not install this).
For example. You create your raid and then you decide to enable smart disk.
This way, your raid disks do not update to support SMART operation and the non RAID disks update to support SMART.
The same is true for spread spectrum (enabling or disabling it). In case you have spread spectrum enabled on your disks, you need to enable it in BIOS, before you enable RAID.
comp show today, what mobo would you guys go with in a blackbird case,
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 Kentsfield 3.0GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
2X EVGA 8800 Ultras, cpu and ultras are water cooled, have tons of very good ddr2 ram so not buying ddr3, 1100 watt PSU, 2x special edition raptors i run in raid zero, and no asus BS for me anymore.
I dont want to mod the new mobo with chipset water cooling, just want a mobo that has a decent bios, no damn heat issues and all this asus non-sense.
has to be SLi and a 790 is fine if it can use ddr2, if not 780.
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf5457kt2.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf5386oa9.jpg
current best score with the asus toaster mobo
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7150355
19214 3DMark06
thanks
If it has to be SLI capable and DDR2 ram you don't have a lot of options... XFX and EVGA also make 780i boards, and then there's the MSI board:
http://www.cbcnz.com/images/134769-cbcnz.JPG
What's so terrible about your current Asus 780i if I may ask?
Mine's perfectly stable, video issue is gone with 1401 bios too....
CapnKirk
Nice HP blackbird case you have (I've read your posts in other forums ... )
This is not the right place to get your answers since "no asus BS for you anymore".
tnx for reply, NB heat problem, sb heat too which gets sucked right into one of my 8800 ultra fan and makes that hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
bios issues, mostly voltage not saving and fed up with no support, been buying asus mobos a long time, should have known by now.
yeah some peeps get a good board and it all gels together.
tnx tho :)
whys that? is this forum for asus boards only?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
been sleeping like craapp, so maybe i didn't realize. :confused:
heh! tnx for replying tho. :)
This thread is for ASUS Striker II Formula tho.
OK I put the ram at default 800mhz with default timings. And i made the changes that Marios suggested to the voltage. Things have been fine since last nite, but that doesnt mean much. But i did run memtest for like 6 hours and not one error. So really good. Maybe it was a settings issue. Hopefully
So i fixed my issue. At least i believe i did. I had another issue with wierd bad sounds on call of duty 4. so i looked online and it turns out the X-fi was useing the same irg as the video cards. It's turns out irq_not_less_or_equal can also be related to this issue. I couldnt change the irg within windows and neither thru the bios. but was able to change pci slots. When i did it fixed the sound issue. and maybe the BSOD's. But i wont know for sure yet. Hopefully i dont get any more.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
That's exactly why I'm asking in this thread.
I have had it with the ASUS Striker II Formula and since everyone in this thread has one just like myself, what people would be better qualified to ask, "what would your second choice be besides the ASUS Striker II Formula?" ;)
2nd choice for a mobo would be a intel chipset not nvidia. If i didnt have a 30inch monitor and a need for SLI. If i could do it over i would have opted for some two dies on a card video cards like the X2.
I've been playing with a MSI P7N diamond the past few days. Surprisingly i was able to reach the same settings as my Striker II F. 3dmark scores seem to be a little slower but all in all i'm very surprised and impressed. i was looking for a slolution to give me 3way SLI and room for a sound card.. I found it! this Asus Xonar D2X PCI-e Card sounds 100000 times better than the Striker sound. For those of you fed up with the striker you may want to check this diamond out. Heres a thread here at XS about it. Here are some of my numbers. I've been able to match the striker OC easily.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4969/capture3qi7.jpg
Very good BIOS. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Did you change it yourself?
Could you tell us more about this BIOS?
I cannot see any obvious differences from 1305.
Though I think it's a bit faster with games and very stable.
Actually it is so stable that I am afraid to change anything and check if I can get a better overclocking.
Bug report.
Nothing new. The old ones like
- Setting HT multi at 200x6 gives 200x4.5=900
- After setting FSB over 1199, then we cannot go under 1200
- tRD setting makes no difference.
Your welcome.
I'll post detailed change log tommorow, today i'm kinda busy :(
ok, so im dont read this thread frequently enough, now my question is:
the video corruption thing that you guys were talking about with 130x bios, did you guys mean bsod when watching videos?
since my pc is not 100% done i dont have aby videos on it but most of the times that i watch videos on you tube, i get bsod
Ok. We can wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Is it OK to flash BIOS from easy flash, or should we use awdflash? Does it make any difference?
It's too hot here to check max FSB with 1401. Should I expect anything better from this BIOS?
Trying to check for bugs, I think auto vcore and auto CPU vtt do not adjust higher when overclocking in my case (Q6700 at 3375MHz - multi x10).
Not sure though. Anyway I never use auto settings.
Another issue. perhaps same as a issue b4. came home from work and pc had crashed while i was at work. lcd poster said DET DRAM. I retarted and it wouldnt restart past det dram. i pulled the plug and let it sit 1 min. then it was fine. Vista reported the errror, and the solution was....
"A problem with a NVIDIA nForce(TM) SATA Driver driver has caused your computer to shut down and restart unexpectedly. This type of problem is commonly referred to as a "stop error" or "blue screen."
This problem has been fixed in Windows Vista Service Pack 1."
I have SP1, so why am i haveing a crash?
What software version should i install of the NVIDIA nForce(TM) SATA Driver?
I have the current version 9.46 installed for 780i
And device manager says i have the most current version.
This is not a mobo problem. Though I have a few suggestions for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
Check your system hard disk for errors.
Check you hard disks in case you have enabled spread spectrum and adjust the BIOS accordingly.
Start Run cmd and type "sfc /verifyonly"
In case it reports errors fix them from you backup.
A few SATA DVD drives are the source of problems.
X-fi is another source of conflicts in many cases.
You may remove them for a while to exclude compatibility issues.
Remove all nforce Nvidia drivers from control panel. We only need SATA or RAID drivers. Manually check in device manager the list of SATA drivers. In case you haveone you are OK. Otherwise install those you installed in the past one by one with manual update and then check the box to uninstall AND delete each driver. This way you end up with the original Vista SP1 driver.
Now install 9.99 SATA drivers (this is on the previous Nforce version 9.64).
I prefer to enable RAID for all SATA Ports in BIOS and set all my disks as jbod with F10. This way I install the SATA RAID drivers only. Try it. It works. Be careful not to choose "clear the contents of the disk" during this conversion. Add one disk or DVD each time, convert it and then add the next one. Convert to jbod your system disk also and set it as boot (notice the B mark).
You only have to install uninstall or update the Nvidia Nforce Raid controller driver from device manager from now on.
can someone pls help me, i tried to flash to bios 1401 but forgot to set every thing back to stock now my pc wont even boot and im stuck on my moms pc, how can i do a bios recovery?
On the back of the board, on the I/O panel, there is the RESET CMOS switch, make sure your PC is powered off before you push it though :)
Good luck!
You are using outdated drivers. nvidia is listing 15.17's at their site. I've been using them for a while with absolutely no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
that doesnt undo a corrupt bios, tried it already, it keeps asking me for a boot disk and something about drive A
page 4-8 in the asus manual for bios recovery. (basically put your asus driver disk in the rom. it has backup bios)Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)
does it have to be in an ide drive cuz i only have sata drives and it doesnt work =(
Just put the ASUS DVD on a master IDE or SATA 1 port SATA DVD drive and in case of a bad BIOS the motherboard recognizes the situation and performs an automated BIOS recovery.
If the above doesn't work try this.
Any bootable floppy is OK to flash a new BIOS.
Use the autoexec.bat to enter the commands for awdflash.
Check a few posts back for the commands and the link to download the proper awdflash version.
If the none of the above works, you don't have a corrupted BIOS.
In case you have too tight your CPU cooler relax it.
Remove your dimms. Leave only one. Remove the battery for a few hours.
Put it back on and press the clear cmos button. Turn on your PC and press del to enter BIOS.
im pretty sure i have a bad bios, all was well with 1303 but i got alotta bsods when watching videos on youtube so i decide to gotto 1401 and i forgot to set everything back to stock and after the flash this immediately started happening
the weird part is that it specifically asks for "A drive Floppy..."
so i guess that i cant flash from a disk =(, i already took out the ide dvd drive out of my moms pc (might have bricked it (whole pc ) in the process) so im on my dads laptop now and im basically screwed since i dont have a floppy drive, i might borrow my neighbors drive but i still dont have a floppy disk, God, my life sucks
This also happened to me after a bios flash in the past on another mobo.
I was sure the BIOS was corrupted but it wasn't.
Did you check your keyboard?
You might need new batteries. Check the connection.
A floppy drive costs 5$ but you don't need it.
Try what I said. Trust me.
"sfc /verifyonly" showed itegrity issues. i reviewed the file it made, but i havent a clue what it all means. I don't know where the spread spectrum settings are in the OS. i looked at the drives in device manager and nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
This problem began a few days after i got my new striker 2 to replace a broken striker 2. I was getting Bsod for no known reason. i reinstalled the os and still got them. I had learned later the issue might have been the sound card being on the same irg as both the video cards. so i swapped pci slots and the sound card is now on it's own irq. i believed the issue to be fixed utill today. I never had this issue with the old board. And all the hardware is the same. Perhaps cause the irq issue caused some damage to the OS software. and even when i reinstalled the OS i had the sound card still sharing the same irq as the video cards cause i didnt know of that issue. Maybe i need to reinstall the OS again. What do you think? And also how would Repair errors reported from the "sfc /verifyonly" if i can't figure out what the error is?
Also i dont need RAID, but how do i install just the sata drivers. Is there a download just for them?
Another thing. When i had issues with the last mobo i thought it might be the hard drive and i took out the main drive and installed vista on one of the 2 other drives i have in. Now that i erased the instal on that drive the drive is still showing up as a active partition. is this a problem?
Hey all,
I have really enjoyed catching up with this thread! Thanks for sharing...
After all the great tips i got here, it would only be appropriate to share the fruits!
for me, 450x9 is the sweet spot. FAST, but not, imo, too much juice. (orthos/everest/occt stable) Striker/8400 with the following settings:
vcore=1.43750v
nb=1.5v
sb=1.6v
cpuvtt=1.2v
cpupll=1.6v
8GB Mushkin #996599 @ 900 (1:1) 5-5-5-15 2.00v
(it works equally well with 8GB of Hyper-X)
At above 4.05Ghz, core temp's will MAX out around 64-65c under orthos/occt, and this is after a few hours. during Crysis they will not reach 50c...
Regarding the latency issue: Does this only apply to 8GB? I know with 4gb @ 475 I do not experience it. I will double check with 8gb. (most attached pics are with 4GB)
I just got the system stable @ 4275Mhz...
vcore=1.52500v (too much for 24/7)
vram=2.2v
cpugtl=+110
nbgtl=+110
nb=1.52v
sb=1.60v
cpuvtt=1.30v
cpupll=1.60v
it is perfectly stable, however will run too hot under stress (occt=74-75c!). I am Air cooling with a Noctua NHU-12P. Stays under 65c in Crysis.
I have not done any sort of lapping... I am sure that would be a huge heat/power improvement. That project is on the to-do list...
500x9 boots and runs windows fine. it can handle Everest benchmark, but no stress tests. it takes1.6v to do it!
3x 8800GTX's + overclocked cpu/nb/sb (a notoriously HOT nb at that) = serious heat management issues. but it can be done effectively with a little work. I can post a follow-up on this w/pics if anyone is interested.
Thanks to all for the great advice/research!
Sam
You may repair errors in a few ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
The first is to read the log file and check which files are corrupted. Then restore them from a backup. This is the best way. Another way is to run sfc /scannow. This automatically repairs the errors but not always.
You may also try to repair your installation by booting from the Vista DVD. Then there is an option to perform a repair. The best is to perform a new clean installation from a Vista SP1 DVD or a Vista DVD with internet enabled to check for updates during installation or with up to 2GB of system memory (then after the updates you add more memory).
Check your hard disks in case they have a jumper to enable or disable spread spectrum. There is also a spread spectrum option disabled by default on your BIOS. This motherboard does not corrupt the hard disks, unless the hard disk or the memory is defective or you messed up with BIOS settings.
You may check the memory if you press tab during start up or with the latest memtest96+ ISO burned on a CD. There are special programs to check the integrity of your hard disks. You may download them from your hard disk manufacturer.
Install your X-Fi later on, after you have checked everything works fine. Disable the audio on your BIOS before you install X-Fi. Do not install any drivers after installation. Check whether everything works OK. Then install the latest drivers. Avoid programs that read sensors. Even ASUS probe gives video corruption and crash the system.
JBOD
Kevin1970 you don't need it.
This trick is good only for those who need a RAID array like RAID-0 with two disks and they also have a few other SATA disks.
Do not go on reading, unless you already have a real RAID array.
In this case go on reading how to convert the simple SATA devices to JBOD.
This way you install only the SATA RAID drivers and you skip the proprietary SATA IDE drivers that conflict with RAID.
Make a backup of your files just in case you did something wrong.
JBOD is just a bunch of disks. You enable RAID form BIOS on all SATA ports.
Then enter the raid controller during boot by pressing F10.
Create a new array. Select JBOD. Add just one hard disk to the right pane. Save this array but be carefull to check not to delete the contents of the disk. Now you may do the same for the rest of your devices (hard disks and DVD drives) one by one.
Select as bootable the disk you have the operating system.
Enter the BIOS and check your boot devices. That's it.
In case you have Vista and a large perpendicular hard disk (over 700GB) could you please check whether you get errors from your hard disks?
This is the way to check.
Press Start type cmd.exe press enter.
Type winsat disk -flush -drive C.
You may change the letter C to the letter of the hard disk you want to check.
You should get a success response. If not please report back here and go on reading.
In case you did not get a success response, and you have large perpendicular hard disks in any form of raid with the latest Nvidia Nforce drivers installed, check for hard disk errors (nvstor or nvstor64 error) in your event viewer - custom views - Administrative events.
A parity error was detected on \Device\RaidPort1.
im pretty sure it isnt the keyboard since when it asks me to press enter , i do and its saays error in floppy Drive A again but imm gonna try somenew batteries and let you guys know how it goes
edit, i check out how the crashfreebios works and heres what i got:
"If you had done the crash free bios 'research' you claim, you would have learned it isn't intended to recover 'hosed' bios resulting from a failed flash. Nothing except eprom reprogramming can recover a 'hosed' flash eprom.
Crash free bios - follow this carefully now - is intended to permit simple recovery from a bios crash due to incorrect bios settings, as you will get from incrementing clock rates or timings during overclocking experiments. It simply lets you get back into bios so you can correct the bad settings"
Edit again, is there any jumpers i have to switch to make this work, i cant find my manual btw =(
No jumpers. The above info you gave us is wrong.
http://support.asus.com/technicaldoc...Language=en-us
Since you used the easy flash BIOS utility to flash a new BIOS you are safe.
There is no way to get a fully corrupted non bootable BIOS since the boot BIOS segment is not updated.
So you should be able to flash any BIOS you want.
I see that u get goood latency after u cross 1800 fbsQuote:
Originally Posted by sammajidi
can u telll me about ur overclcok whats ur mem speeed
linkey unlinked sync thx alot
I had similar results with both Hyper-X and Mushkin ddr2.Quote:
Originally Posted by hmetro24
Both setup @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.0 - 2.1v. Some of the screen caps i uploaded were with 5-5-5-18, but 5-5-5-15 works fine as well.
i set it up linked & sync'd.
4GB I can confirm has no latency issues.
8GB does slow down a little, but not by much (+/- 5ns)... I will re-test w/8GB and post my results when I get home from work.
Sam
any 1 have sb and nb cooling , not stock cooling that come with the mobo
and mosfet cooling ??
I only can find nb , cant find sb is it the same ,
what about the small cooler between x16 and x1 pci-x
does it need cooler tooo ??? thx
yes but, it only asks me for a floppy, i tried putting in the cd but nothing....
ok i put the bin file on the floppy and now it just says insert systme disk or something like that, i know i have to put something on the floppy other than the bios but im kinda lost atm
pls help me
I did not pass with either my single 1TB WD or My RAID 1TB array. It did pass on my 2 150 raptors array. I do not have any errors in event viewer pertaining to hard drives or controllers. I just copied the contents of the Western digital (465GB) to the RAID drives last night. I expected Event Viewer errors like in the 680i early days but found none. I am using 15.15 drivers on my MSI P7N diamond 780i ATM. I did not experience any issues with the Striker either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3384/capturenn4.jpg
YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
my striker came back form the grave
im so happy, but i still have 1 dead pc on my hand =(, God my moms gonna kill me
Attached pic with 8GB @ 475x2:950/2.1v/5-5-5-15. (Mushkin).Quote:
Originally Posted by hmetro24
Its runs too hot to stress, but can play games...
Marios, thank you so much, you saved my life, imgetting random bsods on 1305 but ill have to lower my clocks untill i flash again, i now have a recovery disk that i can use anytime something goes wrong so every thing should go much easier next time, thx again bro
I have to say that I am on bios 1202 with a QX9650 and 4gb of OCZ Reaper 1066 and I am pulling 11,000 read and 48 latency with awesome voltages... I am completely shocked at how well this board is OCing this Quad and the performance is outstanding!! The only problem with this bios is the half multipliers but I am linked and synced at 1680/840 at 4-4-4-12-2t at a 10 multiplier for 4.2 on my Quad and I am killing it... I have never had a better mobo experience this is my second Striker and the first one couldn't do squat but this one is out of control.. I can run 1800 FSB on my Quad all day long unbelievable for a 780i board.. In addition I am prime stable 3D stable and all is well.. And the best part is no corruption like the 790i with all of it's horrible hangups... I just defected from the 790i SIIE and it was the best decision I have ever made!!! Very happy!!!
Nice to hear that Guacomole, so thats the reason of your absence in the SIIE thread :P
Yeah man I am soooo glad to have sent that board back, I mean it was a real hard thing to do because the SIIE was such a great board to OC on and it just did anything you asked, but when it comes to functionality I couldn't do normal tasks which just ruins a borad that costs $450.00... Honestly for $250.00 I would totally put up with the SIIE but for $450.00n I shouldn't have to make any excuses EVER... Anyway Slim I know you have been rocking that board for a while did you ever figure out the video problem??Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Thank you very much for your info.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
You do not need to perform read write operations to get the error.
There is no corruption anyway. We only get one error in event log each time we start Windows. In case we install raidtool, then we get lots of errors and pop up messages. The problem is that there is no way to completely uninstall Raid tool, so I suggest you do not install this.
On first place, this error we get from large hard disks is probably a Vista bug, not an nForce drivers bug. This might be the source of other hard drive problems, like the one I see with JBOD and the latest Nvidia drivers on those drives failing this test.
Does your RAID 1TB array consist of 2X500GB perpendicular hard disks?
Your Western Digital Black WD1001FALS 1TB is a perpendicular hard disk. Could you please check again the driver version of your NVidia nForce RAID Controller? Is it 9.99.0.9 or is it 10.3.0.21?
9.99.0.9 is OK. This version is installed with nforce 9.64 package.
10.3.0.21 has problems under Vista 64. This version is installed with nforce 15.17 package.
There is an obvious difference between those two drivers, since the latest supports Acoustic Management Control on Nvidia nForce Serial ATA Controller in device manager.
In case your driver version is actually 10.3.0.21, could you convert your 1TB hard disk to jbod and check again the event log for errors (you do not need to perform reed write tests)? Converting your drive to jbod is a safe and very fast procedure and you don't loose anything. I have described this procedure step by step a few posts earlier.
EDIT
nugzo, thank you again for your reply and your efforts. Just in case you didn't know, there are other hard disk drive benches you might run the same way you already did. Here they are.
1. winsat disk -seq -read -drive c -count 1 -iocount 256 -seqsize 65536 -v
2. winsat disk -ran -read -drive c -count 1 -iocount 256 -ransize 16384 -v
3. winsat disk -ran -read -drive c -count 1 -iocount 256 -ransize 524288 -v
4. winsat disk -ran -read -drive c -count 2 -iocount 256 -ransize 1048576 -v
5. winsat disk -ran -write -drive c -count 1 -iocount 256 -ransize 16384 -v
You may change the drive the count number or anything you want.
The best test to check your hard drive speed is the first one.
Enjoy ;)
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8308/memzz5.jpg
Thank you very much guys with tips, mems runs alot better now :)
Im almost sure I almost got it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guacomole
At least now Im able to watch videos (sometimes) without freezes :eek:, but will still freeze sometimes, specially with 1080p movies. Its ironic cause I can run 20 hours prime95 but I will freeze in idle, then I could play a movie and will play fine, but if I restart the pc and play a movie it might freeze anytime.
This led me to conclude that is either LLC (Anandtech explained this and makes me think this is the responsable for my issues) or another component might not be getting enough voltage like the SB since I have all 6 ports in use and only at 1.50v.
Whatever the case is, I want to see if I can fix this board before RMAing it with ASUS. Many others including Tyke and OBR say that after RMAing 4 times, they finally got a rock solid board, well we will see how it goes with my testing.
Btw, once again congrats on getting that board working, you using 1401 I suppose right?
Just up to 1401 and set to 445x9 with ram sync linked (4-4-4-12 1T) for the first oc try in 1401. Seems very good because orthos (stress CPU) is stable at:
vcore 1.375 (cpu-z read 1.296) <- may be even lower, will try later
cpu pll 1.5
cpu vtt 1.2
vdimm 1.9
nb 1.4
sb 1.5
HT/Bridge 1.2
GTLs Auto
LLC On
Most of the above are the lowest values I tried set before. Core temps are both 53C and NB is 42C.
I feel this version got a better control on each device/bus/bridge at lower voltages. (Before I can only get stable by increase voltages)
Will start OC to extreme values and I guess better result will be yielded since this sweet bios version.
Do you guys agree?
In my case the problem is not the chipset.
The NB needs 1.34v only to overclock at 420 FSB.
780i SLI chip is great.
CPU PLL is not so important. CPU gtlref at +30 and NB gtlref at +20 are important though.
CPU PLL at 1.44v, HT at 1.3 and CPU VTT at 1.34 are enough to be stable at 420X8.
My Q6700 CPU needs 1.48v (1.44 real with no load line calibration) to keep up at 420x8=3360. This is too much.
On the other hand, I only need a vcore setting under 1.3v to overclock at 337.5X10=3375 (FSB 1350).
My FSB is definitely CPU limited.
Could I do something about it?
BIOS 1401
I found another "bug" on 1401 BIOS.
With all memory timings set manually, any tWR value (3, or 4 or 5) gives a BIOS reading of 4 and an Everest reading of 5.
When overclocked with the same mem timings, I get a tWR BIOS reading of 3 although I set it at 4.
This is strange. My BIOS knows better.
lol, i got 1 extra mhz on the fsb with 1305 over 1303 lol
validations:
1303
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=382970
1305
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=383869
and apparently that just half a mhz =(
Remember i'm testing a P7N diamond ATM. I'll try to change over to JBOD and test further tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2987/capturemu3.jpg
I reinstalled the os. then ran sfc /verifyonly. it passed. i continued the install everything else. I got BSOD after i installed call of duty 4 and tried to run it. the same cause like before nvidia sata controler. My question is, is for some reason the files i am keeping on the pc(game patches and stuff) corrupted. I installed call of duty from disk but the patches are on the hard drive in another partition. Also while audio seems perfect with music and videos. i am getting issues when playing games. company of hereos has a slight static crackling sound, not all the time and not loud. I installed the brand new X-fi beta drivers that i heard where really good for vista.
I was having file corruption with vtt over 1.2. My test was installing nero 7 or 8. i would get CFC errors with anything over the 1.2. Try lowering vtt and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin1970
I Changed vtt to 1.2, i was told if i wanted stock e8400 settings that the following is good.
loadline cal - enabled
pll 1.6
vtt 1.28
nb 1.36
ht 1.3
are these settings wrong. if so what should they be set at?
and would this be harming my audio?
and would the vtt be doing lots of damage to the tons of stuff i have on these hard drives?
edit
i changed the vtt to 1.2, still have audio issues in company of hereoes. i will try reinstalling it and redownloading the patches to see if that helps.
and what other settings should i worry about with stock e8400 speeds?