ATI boys, fear not. ATI has come to save you with the Fermi-Killer out "next week": The HD599999990.
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ATI boys, fear not. ATI has come to save you with the Fermi-Killer out "next week": The HD599999990.
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Ooooooooooooooooooow my sides hurt! WELL PLAYED! :rofl: :rofl: :ROTF: :D :ROTF: :rofl: :rofl:
that thing surely can put Jen to coma :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaMcO
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no slides, no info today, only date of launch
whoopdeedo
@namco- ati already released a fermi killer at this point. havnt you been reading???? lol
Nvidia have had to cut the clocks of fermi based gpu's because of the heat problems,
and they cant let the cores underclock in idle as much as they would like due to the gpu malfunctioning...
although i'm sure we'll all have a better idea of the reality of the situation after nvidia's announcment later on today.
i'm hoping fermi is better than the leaks would suggest, as is every intelligent member here. We all want a price war...
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/14302/...ents_and_more/Quote:
More details on NVIDIA Fermi - price, PSU requirements and more
TweakTown's own video card guru, Shane Baxtor has acquired some more specific details about NVIDIA's upcoming Fermi powered GTX 470, one of their first two DX11-ready cards to hit the market in answer to AMD's top-end HD 5800/5900 series.
With the very active rumour mill giving a hint that NVIDIA plan to make a big announcement regarding Fermi within the next 12 hrs, Shane gets an early scoop on the pricing and PSU requirements for the GTX 470. He learns that the official launch price looks to be $299 USD which sits in line with AMD's HD 5850, though performance is expected to be more around HD 5870 levels
Power wise, NVIDIA is apparently slapping on a minimum requirement of 550 Watt, up slightly from AMD's min requirement on the HD 5850 at 500 Watt. In any case, it shouldn't matter to most people wanting a card like this, knowing full well that a quality PSU with plenty of headroom makes for a much more stable gaming rig....
:eek:Quote:
With the very active rumour mill giving a hint that NVIDIA plan to make a big announcement regarding Fermi within the next 12 hrs, Shane gets an early scoop on the pricing and PSU requirements for the GTX 470. He learns that the official launch price looks to be $299 USD which sits in line with AMD's HD 5850, though performance is expected to be more around HD 5870 levels.
I suppose it's safe to assume that Fermi is coming. Why is the warranty getting shorter, though?Quote:
In a separate posting, Shane is confident NVIDIA will announce their launch date for the Fermi cards within the next 12 or so hours which the rumour mill is indicating will be mid to late March. He also feels there may be an availability issue on the horizon with these cards due to the 1 year warranty that NVIDIA gives to its AIBs as opposed to a lot of the AMD cards on the market with 2 year warranties
$299 GTX470 with the performance of 5870 would be an absolutely killer card. I have a feeling that GTX480 may be priced decently as well! :D
It is going to be priced decently. Why? Because Nvidia is not looking to make any profit from this line of GeForces any more. They have postponed money making plans to several months later. So they are looking to sell these cards initially at a great loss, but will produce only a few thousand so their loss will be minimal. At the moment they can price it anything they want. They are going to be killer cards that you can't buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Later when yields are up and maybe design issues have been overcome, they will be able to mass produce the cards at this given price. And effectively they will be the company who were offering good cards at good prices since the end of March. It was just your problem you couldn't find any of them in stores in March!
$299 for GTX 470 is great news, and if it matches/beats 5850 then it probably means we get GTX 480 for $399, and the dual GFi00 for $499, (based on my own guess/speculations on price ).Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
But this price-scenario means that ATi has a refresh (or new GPU) ready to fight the Fermi at launch time.
This is a great news, it means we are back to the price-war, and the area of $499 for the top dog.
299$? Hard to believe , but i guess we will see. Right now the only way i can see that happening,the performance is just not there. Nvidia is good at making money, if this was indeed a superior product , it should cost more.
Yes indeed, $299 for GTX 470 means either ATI has a excising or a refresh/new GPU to compete with Fermi.
If GTX 470 matches/beats 5850 then we should expect e refresh from ATi too, is my assessment of this price-
Is TMSC ready for the potential price war of these 40nm cards?
http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-geforce-470-480/Quote:
NVIDIA and it's troubled GeForce 400 series
Today I wanted to write a little 'opinionated' editorial. Typically we do not address rumors and gossip. But an accumulation of things that have been going on over at camp NVIDIA and the Internet leading us to believe things are not as they should be. The rumors are creating a rather negative stigma for NVIDIA.
Last week most of NVIDIA's partner got sampled with the first GeForce 400 series graphics cards, and of course somebody somewhere leaked information towards a person which We'll just call 'Mr C', this friendly little fellah has an unnatural and seriously unhealthy attitude towards NVIDIA, I'm seriously afraid he's gonna stroke out some day. Take a chill pill man, it's just hardware.
With his most recent plot and post however a lot of chatter started on the web with ATI fans attacked NVIDIA fans, the guy is really good stirring up things, yet his claims are often well .. very semi-accurate for sure. What I wanted to do is talk you through what has been happening at NVIDIA (from what we know), where we are and what's going to happen.......
This seems like a way to make AMD lose potentially tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars.
If they make enough hoopla about this and the pricing, AMD going to have to reduce the price of their card from 399 down to 299 or less. And their 5850 down atleast 100 dollars.This is of course assuming the gtx 470 performs like the 5870 or better.
X million in sales * pricedrop = tens of millions to hundreds of millions in lost revenue. AMD won't lose money off each card because they are cheap to make. However, I can see the graphic division as a whole not being profitable again.
That alot of damage from a few thousand cards. In the long run this could hurt NV. Its almost a kamikaze move because I don't know how they could sell a 5xx mm2 card so cheap, even in the future.
$299 for GTX 470 will be quite a price for a 448 shader card. I mean if it defeats 5850 but not 5870, GTX 480 can take care of 5870 and coe close to a 5970.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
the only thing ATi may have as to counter the GTX 480 threat would be a 5950 "2*1440" as for the GTX 470 it may need a 5850 @ 1ghz or a bump of the ram or both.
Exciting exciting maybe Nvidia will be able to lower 5970's price also and we dont need to wait for Gemini !!!
But the fact remains that most likely the 5970 will be top dog till Gemini comes.
Actually it is about time. ATi has been milking the marked for too long, because nVidia just jumped over those cards that should be competing with 5x-series.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Obviously NVIDIA relies on the effect Fermi will leave in HPC/GPGPU. If they fail to sell Tesla-cards based on Fermi in volume, then they might get in trouble because they sell GeForce-Fermi too cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
GTX 470 for 299 is a good deal even if it doesn't beat HD 5870.
That SabrePC-site sure seems a bit odd to me. Has anyone ever had any dealings with them before? I reviewed their privacy, security, shipping etc. from their Site Map and my paranoid mode switched on. It even seems like the site was put up like yesterday. What is this Genoedge Corporation which the SSL-certificate belongs to? Their website didn't explain much.
And no, I wasn't about to make any preorders, just being curious :p:
The best deal for us (the frequent consumers of GPU), would be:Quote:
Originally Posted by FischOderAal
GTX 470 for $299 which matches/beats 5850
GTX 480 for $399 which matches/beats 5870
Dual GF100 for $499 which matches/beats 5970
But we all know that a superior Fermi (without a real competitor) won't come cheap (just as the ATi 5x-series didn't come cheap either).
These prices won't happen unless ATi has new/refresh GPU to compete with Fermi at launch. That's when it gets really interesting for nerds, because good and cheap GPUs would flying around everywhere.
I hope you're joking (like i did with photoshop) because Charlie is nothing more than an idiot :p::p::p:Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
It might even be true and we'll see about that soon (i hope!), but if it's coming from not-at-all-accurate.com i don't believe a single word :ROTF:
GTX 480 2GB: 679.99$???: http://www.sabrepc.com/p-174-xfx-gef...16-retail.aspx
The specs are wrong, and that's just a virtual "pre-order" to make some fuzz about that stupid shop ( that's how they think they'll get more customers :D ).Quote:
Originally Posted by ocvn
So Nvidia is going for a price war with a paper product?
I don't think ATI will bite.
AKA Guru3D making sure they keep getting Nvidia cards to review with that article against "Mr. C". :DQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Totally unrealistic...have you read VR-Zone article? Even if it is 10times better in reality (what is too much optimistic), still the cards will be limited; and you have very high demand here. I expect very limited GTX 480 $599+ (probably lot pricier due to small number), GTX 470 $499+ (some higher volumes) and something like GTX 460 or 450 with far less shaders (they have to somehow rise yelds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
AMD has huge space for lowering prices and still if NVIDIA will loose on Fermi, they would want to loose as low as possible. So I personally expect high pricies thus no lowering from AMD side (as low numbers of Fermi won't harm HD 5000 sales).
Those prices are just as hard to believe as Charlie's previous 5 % only performance advantage claim.
why amd is going to reduce prices nvidia can't take that much damage for a long time amd knows that so probably fermi if priced below 400 dolars will be limited product so after few weeks there won't be any fermis to buy like 5970s which leaves only option for buyers = amd :ROTF: to say truth i doubt amd even cares about 58xx line or 59xx best selling ones are 5770s they are selling like hotcakesQuote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
It starts by aiming directly at Charlie and then validating 3/4 of the stuff he says. I guess Hilbert hopes that NVIDIA's PR guys only read the first few paragraphs. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Exactly. I think Guru3D finally figured out how the NVIDIA's internet filtering algorithm works ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
lol yeah that was sad :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Personally, it's sad that some publications think they have to publically weigh in on these subjects without any concrete information. I mean Semi Accurate's whole reason for being around is to publish rumors and innuendo and Charlie does it quite well. Other sites like Anandtech, Guru3D and others usually stick with either reposting the rumors if we see fit while sticking to the information we know for certain.
There is no reason for an otherwise legit site to wade into the dangerous terrain of rumor-mongering other than to hope for a sudden increase in traffic. Let's be honest here: controversy brings in the traffic. There are so many rumors these days, it's best for the main hardware sites if they say nothing at all IMO.
no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
When I was a child, my mother used to say "the tone makes the music", meaning that you can tell the same in different way causing different reactions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
What Charlie wrote sounds like a typical, non-objective rant. The article on Guru3D confirms some of the arguments, but also says Fermi will be "very fast".
Which text you rather believe if you didn't know who wrote them?
At this point, neither. Charlie's articles are clearly meant to inflame a situation and garner him with more readers. Guru3D's is purely reactionary and knee-jerk in nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by FischOderAal
All I'm saying is that I am sick and bloody tired of seeing this back and forth BS. It demeans otherwise legitimate sites when they wade into a discussion about rumors by posting a "me too!" article without citing proper, quotable sources.
not vr zone but its Source: SemiAccurateQuote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
is sad that some would go towards s/a then guru but
]like the guy said it cant be made so why are you guys here?...go stand by your man it cant be made...those are big claims.
bigger the bs the more hits :rolleyes: he is not there for the news just to gather hits for his ad rates.
I didn't say it would be the most realistic scenario, but said "The best deal for us (the frequent consumers of GPU), would be ... " that scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
My assumptions and Perice speculations was based on the breaking news: "GTX 470 for $299", and if it holds true, then I believe your scenario with those high prices will become totally unrealistic.
If the day comes where Nvidia launches Fermi at 299$ then that's the day where they also start charging royalties for playing any games on your pc. Just like video games do.
It's way too unlikely that such a massive and expensive chip will sell for so little retail, especially since all the AMD price rises. Nvidia's loyalty based customers are a much much greater number then many believe. Even if Fermi is SLOWER than Cypress, there are enough Nvidia loyals that will buy it regardless and keep them at a safe revenue margin.
Just go fishing for all the posts claiming Nvidia cards "feel better", are "more reliable", "graphics look nicer" etc. as their reason for purchase and you will see exactly the people I'm talking about here.
I believe the only thing that can make Fermi fail is not launching it.
I don't know if the news about "GTX 470 for $299" holds true. It is just braking out, and I draw my conclusions assuming that the news was true. Something I made clear from the start.
But where did you hear that nVidia is going to charge royalties for playing games. Have you heard any news, form where? or just speculating? in case based on what?
Based on nothing at all its just a joke mate don't worry
I meant was that if Nvidia sold GTX470 at 299$ they are likely to lose money at those prices. Considering the large amount of costs they have had till now and yet still have very very low margins. The cost to produce 1 chip must be very close to 299$, some speculate even more.
My example with console games is that PS3 cost much more than 600 Euro to manufacture at launch, but it sold at lower than cost in order to obtain market share, profits comes from royalties from the games. Each game for PS3 you buy, earns Sony some money which pays for their losses on PS3.
Just an example and a joke. No Nvidia will not charge royalties
Oh, good to hear :rolleyes:
I thought maybe you where of those. "Even if Cypress is SLOWER than Fermi , there are enough ATi royals that will buy it regardless and keep them at a safe revenue margin", scenarios. :p:
Hehe
Btw the people I refer to are not exacly Fanboys. Fanboys stay quiet when the ship isn't sailing at the front.
These "loyals" I mean simply will not take an ATI product over Nvidia ever, because of their long standing commitment. And they proudly announce it any day, good or bad. Most have been buying Nvidia since the golden age and will never interest in any other brand.
Similar thing happens in Mac users. Or Playstation users.
ROFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiSUAN
Here are the facts:
1) The specifications are incorrect
2) That shop sucks and they're just trying to get some attention and attract customers this way
repost much?
(@KiSUAN)
Don't use that site. They are doing that for traffic. does no one find it weird that this site was no one till yesterday? Come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiSUAN
While the prices are probably going to be around that because it is Nvidia and they seem to not believe in low prices.
Everyone knows the truth Nvidia is going to price these things high because they know they can. Nvidia has always been priced high compared to ATI from what I can remember. So why would they change that now. I just hope we all have not been waiting on this amazing card and get a hard piece of white ooo I mean green poo.
I see ATI maybe dropping their prices a little when these cards are released, but if they are still selling why drop the price?
1) I see no specs there. Have they removed it? But still, I thought we don't know final specs yet, so how can you blame them when nobody knows right nubmers??Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
2) I know many shops like this here, some of them are good if you want something cheap and have time for waiting until they stock it; you ever bought something from this one that you're making judgements?
Here's another fact: (second review)Quote:
Originally Posted by KiSUAN
Quote:
My Wife Left Me
Reviewed By on 2/21/2010 12:00:00 AM
Tech Level: High understanding - Ownership: 1 week - 1 month
Pros: Packaging was pretty nice. Came with a free copy of Metro 2033 and Bioshock 2.
Cons: I came home 2 days after installing into my computer, and found my wife packing her bags, saying she was moving out and taking the GTX480 with her. She said it pleases her in more ways than I would ever know. She packed her bags and took the kids.
Other Thoughts: The house is empty.
1) The vendors now have more than info in their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemot
2) It doesn't take more than half a minute to find out that there's no 2GB GTX 480.
The BUS width and the memory configuration info was released to the public.. a few months ago :p:
3) The price is even worse than newegg's price gouged 5970s :D
nVidia has traditionally been pricing higher that ATI, because ATi didn't have the technology to match/beat it. But the moment ATi got the top dog, the 5970 is selling higher than the launch price of GTX 295!.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
The price depends on competition, and right now both have the ability/technology to match/beat each other, This is historical and will reduce the prices heavily, unless these guys make some kind unwritten agreement to avoid competing by "jumping over" the competing GPU.
470 SMSRP = $299, PSU requirement = 550Watt. Meant to compete with 5850, recommend 50 more watts, performance slightly faster than 5870. Looks like a winner.
http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/02/2...u-requirement/
If the yields are bad then it's better to price them low, as there's no price point where it will sell AND make a profit. So it'll do a lot more damage to ATI by lowering the price, so nvidia swallow the loss until yields improve while decreasing ATI profit potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
That's what I'd do, they've ordered the wafers, the money is already gone. Might as well make the most of what you've got.
If they can get the numbers out it'll be good for us, if they can't them may force ATI prices down, unless retailers stick a huge mark up due to the supply demand ratio.
1) of course, but we are not vendors, are we?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
2) my bad, didn't noticed it, I was looking over the "specifications" tab
3) I've seen such a price on many pages that has GTX 480 listed, nothing suspicious to me
How someone can call that a review is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
And where's the first review? I've tried to find it, kinda hard on this thread.
Cause he kidding?
How can end users possibly review a paper product for 1 month already?:rolleyes:
mountain dew just came spraying out of my nose!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oj101
DAMMIT !! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
This thread is useless, time for another fresh star, part 3 please :ROTF:
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Ahhhh dam one month do we have to wait that long even for some reviews??
yeah, yaeh :yepp: :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
Dont expect any real leaks, drivers are only for ChosenOnes and signed
This is dumb. They better have enough cards made by then that every person on Earth can own one. I better not have to wait much after the release to get one. This is just BS.
ATi may have a new customer soon.
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Likely, but hopefully not, at least.:down::down::down:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
isn't 9am PST already overdue? another delay? well I wasn't ready for this :)
What? Is Chris Ray dead???
yeah, he died after CESQuote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
R.I.P.
come on zed_x tellem its gonna be worth the wait
Well if Nvidia keeps on pushing fermi back it may as well coincide or may not be far off when Cypress refresh comes around.
Yes, almost a month ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
http://www.nvnews.net/articles/chris_ray_memorial/
GTX 470/480 launch 26 march 2010.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/paxeast.html
Ati showing some HD6000 prototype cards at June's Computex?
Were does it say launch?
I think 5000 refresh more likely. Possibly launch? Seems like good timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendork
Quote:
Were does it say launch?
And say that i have my confirmations that 26 is the day of launch.Quote:
NVIDIA Booth
Exhibit Hall D, Booth #1003- Test drive our highly-anticipated, next-generation GPU…you may even
be able to buy one before anyone else
Real availability only for May-July.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
stock is up 0.6% on this news 1 hour ago:
and is realQuote:
DX10.1 rebranding -
One of the so-called new models is known as the GeForce GT 320. This adapter boasts 72 processing cores, 1GB of VRAM with a 128-bit interface and a memory clock of 780 MHz. The GPU runs at 540 MHz and the shader frequency is set at 1302 MHz. Furthermore, the device comes equipped with D-Sub, DVI and HDMI outputs.
The second in the line is the GeForce GT 340 graphics card, which is actually a renamed GT 240. This adapter has 512MB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 1700 MHz and a memory interface of 128 bits. In addition, the card has the GPU designed with a clock frequency of 550 MHz and a shader clock of 1340 MHz. Furthermore, the device comes with 96 processing cores, as well as HDMI, DVI and D-Sub outputs.
The third card introduced by the company is the GeForce GT 330. This model comes in multiple versions, each differentiated from the others through its number of processing cores, its memory interface, its amount of VRAM and clock speeds. The GT 330 has either 1GB or 2GB of VRAM and an interface of 128 bits, 192 bits or 256 bits. The models can also have either 96 or 112 cores, along with a GPU frequency of 500-550MHz, a memory clock of 500-800MHz and the shader running at 1250-1340MHz
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...gt_340_us.html
idential specs to GT240? So confused... not even traditional 20Mhz speed bump.Code:CUDA Cores 96
Graphics Clock (MHz) 550 MHz
Processor Clock (MHz) 1340 MHz
Memory Specs:
Memory Clock (MHz) 1700 MHz
Standard Memory Config 512 MB or 1 GB
Memory Interface Width 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 54.4 GB/sec
Microsoft DirectX 10.1
Yeah I know it was more of a joke really. I am probably just going to end up with an ATi to be honest I usually go for nvidia first but this is just becoming straight up stupid. Only reason I am waiting is because BC2 isnt out yet and that is the only real reason I want a new card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
These are barely news, on OEM are from many weeks on Nvidias page with full specification..Quote:
stock is up 0.6% on this news 1 hour ago:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_family.html
Based on precendent set by Crysis Warhead, I'm quite sure every game this year will play well on a 8800GT.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuffPCair
That is until *somebody* produces another "8800GT" type product (5770 is close.. but).
HD58xx (and especially Fermi) owners are not going to makeup significant share of the market for a long time. :yepp:
This'd be awesome, but a the same time very unlikely imo... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Did someone say "launch in the beginning of March"? Looks like "low availability in the end of March" rumour was true...Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
Its more for DX11 in what I am going after, that is the reason I have not sold my 9800gtx+. I think most GPUs are so overpriced its dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
I want to play devils advocate and gun down the fact you were somewhat warping words. They said "no doubt NVIDIA will be aiming the performance of the model more around the HD 5870 area though" not that it will compete with the 5870. They are making a blatent ( and retarded ) assumption on their part. It would make no sense to put it at 5850 prices if it can trade blows with the 5870. It would be insanity given the cost involved with this chip. They would turn a very small profit at 300 if any ( possibly even selling at a loss? hell the GTX 260 costed ironically around 260 USD in the first few months and every indication points to GF100 being more expensive to produce; coupled with the late coming to the party, i think it would be retarded to price it at 299 unless it happens to be underwhelming and they have no choice )Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
The only remotely logical point of pricing a faster card at a lower price would be to restore customer confidence but I'd think at this point they'd be more concerend with share holder confidence and making up for lost time (delays / technical speed bumps ). Making a profit worth their while launching a near 3 billion transistor gpu ( I assume the 470 isn't a unit disabled 480 unlike previous cards so perhaps its cost won't be so astronomical ) at 299 just doesn't compute... Hell I'd love to be wrong and see the 470 launch at 299 AND match / beat the 5870 but it just sounds too good to be true and too illogical. I also can't ignore the fact that the past has shown when Nvidia has a performance lead, they ask customers to pay for it.
480GTX is listed for 699 which puts it in 5890 territory, if this beast performs on par if not greater then colour me green. source' http://www.techpowerup.com/115816/Ge...ts_Listed.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/7445/ $680
~Bex
God people need to stop reporting about the same site. Do you not see they are the only ones with it posted? Hmmm lets think why they are doing that. They are going to be dishing all these pre orders they cannot fill. Give up people just give up. Wait for a month then we will really know the price.
Your link says $679 plain as day.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
Typo >.<;;
~Bex
hm 480 has really good cooler and i see that memory on 6870 is "upgradable"
How did the ATi Platinum editions survive still ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
The cooler on the GTX 480 looks sweet :up:
Edit: Regarding when these cards are REALLY going to be available btw.
And thusly, all the Nvibots wept long into the night, only the sounds of their own wailing there to console them.
I only wish I'd woken up earlier to hear this news. All suspicions were right, and suddenly the "unclean ATI fanboyszzz" prevail. :shocked:
In all seriousness though, now having read yet more, this is pretty pathetic. Nvidia's incompetence at making a decent card, with a decent power envelope, in a decent timeframe is unbelievable.
And to think I used to (in the GeForce 4 -> 8800 series days) call myself a die-hard Nvidia fanboy. :rofl: :ROTF:
At this point, if they can even release a high-leakage power monster that gets 20% better performance than an efficient ATI part I'll be amazed. Oh, and if it doesn't cost $1000.
Swwweeeeettttt ... :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
:ROTF:
I am with you. This has just gotten outrageously stupid. Nvidia needs to pull their heads out there @ss and actually do their jobs instead of talking crap. Cause right now ATi looks a lot better than they do, and Nvidia's only response is about how amazing this card is going to be. Yet there is basically nothing to show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
This is just straight up DUMB.
27.03 is launch date
NV30 part deux March 27
FYI to everyone: nVidia isn't FORCING you to wait. Not like you're stuck on this rollercoaster and being taken for a ride..Quote:
Originally Posted by kadozer
I'm sure despite all the pessimism here, Fermi will have great performance. But, no news on midrange. And looks like even single GTX470 will have greater power demand than HD5870. Personally I'm more interested in 100-120W range
IMHO ANY nVidia card is better than AMD, because of the PhysX BS. Thank goodness for the hack though. Almost bought HD5850+GT220 several times.. close to ideal. :up:
Not too fond of having to spend extra $80-100 on 2nd video card just to run PhysX games on high quality. Alternative is single nVidia GTX2xx with lower performance...:shakes:
Well you had good reason to, and I was right there with you. The 4870 was my first ever Ati purchase and I never thought that was going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox