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    hi guys



    looks like ATi will have 3 new X2900 cards


    -X2900XTX 1GB GDDR4
    -X2900XT 512MB GDDR3
    -X2900XL 512Mb GDDR3


    HD 2900 thermal numbers out, 225W

    Three kings including the XL


    ATI will introduce three Radeon HD 2900 cards on the 14th of May. According to a document we've seen the most powerful one is called the Radeon HD 2900 XT 1024MB DDR4. Its TDP, thermal design power of the GPU, is an astonishing 180 Watts, while the whole board dissipates 225 Watts.

    The second card is the Radeon HD 2900 XT 512 MB GDDR3 and its GPU's TDP is 160W due to slightly lower clock speed and the whole board again dissipates 225 Watts.

    The third and final card is the Radeon HD 2900 XL, a cheaper version of the marchitecture with 512 MB GDDR3 and its GPU will dissipate 130 Watts, while the board will dissipate 205 Watts. We believe that the power components on the card gets really hot, 82 degrees C on the outside of the cooler is what we've already seen.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=850&Itemid=1




    and 4 X2600 models

    - X2600XT 512mb GDDR4
    - X2600XT 512mb GDDR3
    - X2600XT 256mb GDDR3
    - X2600 Pro 256mb GDDR3







    Ati to launch nine Rx6x0 cards on the 14th

    Seven of them are 65 nanometre


    ATI will launch nine Radeon HD 2000 series cards on the 14th of May, at 15.00 Central European time or 9 AM Eastern time. It will start talking about nine cards where seven of them are 65 nanometre.


    The one we talked a lot about is called Radeon HD 2900XT with 512MB GDDR3 is powered with R600 and done in 80 nanometre. This is the fastest card to hit the retail and etail.

    The second in line is Radeon HD 2900XL card again with 512 MB GDDR3, R600 chip and 80 nanometre core. The rest of the cards are 65 nanometre and HD 2600 or HD 2400 based.

    The fastest mainstream card is the Radeon HD 2600 XT with 512MB of GDDR4 memory. It is based on RV630, 65 nanometre chip.

    The second in line is is Radeon HD 2600 XT with 512MB of GDDR3 memory and it will be slightly faster then the GDDR4 card. It is also based on RV630, 65 nanometre chip.

    The third RV630 card is Radeon HD 2600 XT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. This card is also based on RV630, 65 nanometre chip.

    The last RV630, 65 nanometre based card is Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. We still don't know the exact clock speeds but we believe that DAAMIT still has to make its mind up.

    In the entry level ATI plans to launch three HD 2400 based card.

    The top one is Radeon HD 2400 XT with 256MB of DDR2 memory. This card is based on RV610, 65 nanometre core. The second one is Radeon HD 2400 Pro again with 256MB of DDR2 memory and based on RV610, 65 nanometre core.

    The last but not the least one is Radeon HD 2400 PRO with 128MB of DDR2 memory. This card is also based on RV610, 65 nanometre core.

    So now you know.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=854&Itemid=1

    RV670 is HD 2900PRO

    65 nanometre 256 bit chip

    ATI has a few new 65 nanometre cards planned for Q3 2007. One of the most interesting one is the RV670 a 65 nanometre mainstream core with 256 bit memory interface. This card is scheduled to replace the RV570 or Radeon X1950 PRO cards.

    ATI will brand this one as Radeon HD 2900 PRO and the card is based on RV670 core done in 65 nanometre. The card comes with 512 MB of memory and DAAMIT doesn't plan to introduce this card on the 14th it will wait till the card is ready.

    We heard that it might be some showcase of the beta cards at Computex. So if Nvidia launches a 256 bit version of G84 ATI will have something to fight it with.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=852&Itemid=1


    More HD 2900XT Cards Spotted and Priced


    The blokes from TechOne | HDTV got hold of a picture of an HD 2900XT card from Sapphire. The interesting part of this board is the cooling unit, which is obviously different from the reference design we have seen earlier. It features three heatpipes and the blades of the radial blower are bigger than on the reference design which usually should lead to a lower overall noise.
    Meanwhile some German shops began listing ASUS and Sapphire HD 2900XT cards but the shops took the offers down for some unknown reasons. Though I missed to make a screenshot when I first came across the online shop grafikkartenpower.de which still has a 2900XT category, I remember the price which was 365.90 Euro. Furthermore the European pricegrabbing machine Geizhals.at still has the speeds of GPU and memory online, 757MHz respectively 828MHz (1656MHz effectively). At the moment this information is still to be taken with a grain of salt though until the world wide NDA is lifted on May 14th.





    Sources: Sapphire picture at TechOne | HDTV | ASUS HD 2900XT at Geizhals.at | Sapphire HD 2900XT at Geizhals.at




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    I can smell the XL from here !!!!

    I can say right now that likeliness of HD 2900 PRO in 2007 is quite high...if only because Nvidia has also shown interest in a mainstream 256-bit card.

    The crappy-ness that COULD happen? Dave Fart-On thinks that he doesn't need the HD 2600 to compete with the GTS and has the RV670 256-bit compete with 8600gts 128-bit X(

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    Please can someone link up the architecture differences between each of the cards? shaders etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by K404 View Post
    Please can someone link up the architecture differences between each of the cards? shaders etc

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    Mainstream ? High End ?

    Or do you want one for all? We only have confirmed info on HD 2600 and below, along with HD 2900XT....no shader info on XL or PRO.

    Basically the major differences are:

    Shaders:

    8800GTX/Ultra: 128 Shaders
    HD 2900: 320 Shaders
    8800GTS: 96 Shaders
    8600GT/S: 64 Shaders
    HD 2600: 120 Shaders

    TMUs:

    8800GTX/Ultra/GTS: 64 TMUs
    HD 2900: 32 TMUs

    Tech:

    8800/8600: 80nm
    HD 2900: 80nm
    HD 2600/2700: 65NM

    A small run through...no clue on TMUs on Mainstream cards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    [...]
    Shaders:

    8800GTX/Ultra: 128v1 Shaders
    HD 2900: 64v5 Shaders
    8800GTS: 96v1 Shaders
    8600GT/S: 64v1 Shaders
    HD 2600: 24v5 Shaders
    [...]
    It would be 320 stream processors, not shaders
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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Shaders:

    8800GTX/Ultra: 128 Shaders
    HD 2900: 320 Shaders
    8800GTS: 96 Shaders
    8600GT/S: 64 Shaders
    HD 2600: 120 Shaders
    Thats actually wrong.

    nVidias is 2+1, AMDs is 4+1.

    So if HD2900 got 320 shaders, then 8800 got 384. Its a simply PR gimmick.

    AMDs shaders are abit more advanced. So I guess that counters nVidias usual brute force lead.

    So 64 vect5D shaders for the 2900.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    It would be 320 stream processors, not shaders
    No, stream processor is just a new word for unified shader.
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    so its seems the cards will be:

    - HD X2900XTX 1Gb GDDR4 (OEM??)
    - HD X2900XT 512mb GDDR3
    - HD X2900XL 512mb GDDR3

    - HD X2600XT 512mb GDDR4
    - HD X2600XT 512mb GDDR3
    - HD X2600XT 256mb GDDR3
    - HD X2600Pro 256mb GDDR3


    - HD X2400XT 256mb DDR2
    - HD X2400PRO 256mb DDR2
    - HD X2400LE
    - HD X2400LE2


    - Mobility 2400/2600/2900



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    No, stream processor is just a new word for unified shader.
    No, stream processor can be everything with a in- and output. So a sfu also can be a sp.
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    I thought the HD X2900XTX 1Gb GDDR4 was going to be held back all together no? Now it's back on schedule?
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    Well, 2600XT have GDDR4 and 2900XT/XL have GDDR3. Smart, smart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasparz View Post
    Well, 2600XT have GDDR4 and 2900XT/XL have GDDR3. Smart, smart...
    Of cause its smart, cause with a huge 512Bit SI u dont need GDDR4, but with a small 128Bit SI u will.
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    X2900XTX overclock well even with their stock cooler...
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    I'm reeeeeeaaly curious what the prices are gonna be

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    Oh sign me up for the XL

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    I wonder how will HD X2600XT 512mb GDDR4 perform against 8600GTS 256/128.....

    8800GTX/Ultra: 128v1 Shaders
    HD 2900: 64v5 Shaders
    8800GTS: 96v1 Shaders
    8600GT/S: 64v1 Shaders
    HD 2600: 24v5 Shaders
    8600GT/S has 32 Shaders that are a bit more advanced than the ones of G80...
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    Im afraid it's to late now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks View Post
    Im afraid it's to late now.
    not really but interesting theory
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    i thought 8800GTX has 32TMU and 24ROP ??...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...Force_8_Series

    128/128:32:24

    Unified Shaders (Vertex/Pixel Shader Units) : Texture mapping units : Render Output Pipelines

    also that vr zone link is broken ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks View Post
    Im afraid it's to late now.
    The 2900XT is right on time for me and at a better price i would have ever think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theteamaqua View Post
    i thought 8800GTX has 32TMU and 24ROP ??...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...Force_8_Series

    128/128:32:24

    Unified Shaders (Vertex/Pixel Shader Units) : Texture mapping units : Render Output Pipelines

    also that vr zone link is broken ...

    8800GTX has 64TMU

    but we cant compare the X2900 32TMUs with the 8800GTX 64 TMU&#180;s , the X2900 TMU&#180;s run with higher clocks

    the x1900 also had less TMUs and in complex shader intensive games they had advantage , and the ratio in R600 is even higher , with x1900 the ratio was 3:1 , now with R600 the ratio is 4:1





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    Quote Originally Posted by theteamaqua View Post

    also that vr zone link is broken ...
    Working fine here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowRun View Post
    Working fine here.
    Not Working fine here ..

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