I think my temps are 2 high ...

[CERO]

Hello I just setup my first timer W/c. With the following equipments:
PA120.3 paired with 3x Scythe S-flex F ( PULL)
Swiftech D5 Vario
XSPC bay resevoir
D-tek V2 paired with a Quad insert chamber.
these are connected in a single loop for cooling my Q6600.
My room ambient: 27-25c.
When I prime small FFts, with 3.9ghz @ 1.44 vcore , coretemp with TjMAX 100 shows 67-69c. And 4.0ghz @ 1.48 vcore : 73-75c......
What could it be?

I alrdy did 3 times bleeding, and remounted 3 times. Only thing i could imagine is the Quad core insert chamber could be bad. My cpu is lapped properly. Any comments?

Here is a pic of my loop:

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00070eg8.jpg

[aspire.comptech]

Seems quite a bit too high.

Your sure the mount is good? Remounting it improperly 3 times won't help it.

Aside from that, perhaps a bad temp probe... If it really is hitting 70C touch the tubing or the chamber at the end of the radiator. They should be hot to the touch...

[Serpentarius]

reduce your MCP655 to 1/5 .. you do not need to have high flow, in fact .. having high flow = high rotating = higher heat dump
remember .. you're not pushing your water thru 10 meter loops ... your loop is approx 1 meter

70 deg celcius is false reading ... if you remember taking hot baths ... 70 deg celcius is about it
check it .. if it's really that temps ... do not rely too much on the probes .. but instead your instinctive nature

if the temps is thaaaaat high .. 70 deg celcius, similiar to your hot baths .. then something is stuck in your rad, the flow might be inconsistent, meaning some debris have redirected the flow reducing the flow to the rad fins .. but this is just speculation (unless your attempt to crack an egg to seal a hole (aka mythbusters style))
tip: 70 deg cel will scald your fingers

if the temps is felt like someone's hot fever, then it's nothing is wrong .. just that probe thing ... get a new one .. most probraly it got bended somewhere ..

[Spoobs]

i think youd better hope 73-75c is a false reading, cuz that is CLOSE to frytime. it cant be true... unless your cooling setup isnt installed properly or working right

[71 (Bryan)]

water doesnt get a chance to cool down in the rad maybe?

[pika198]

reduce your MCP655 to 1/5 .. you do not need to have high flow, in fact .. having high flow = high rotating = higher heat dump
remember .. you're not pushing your water thru 10 meter loops ... your loop is approx 1 meter

70 deg celcius is false reading ... if you remember taking hot baths ... 70 deg celcius is about it
check it .. if it's really that temps ... do not rely too much on the probes .. but instead your instinctive nature

if the temps is thaaaaat high .. 70 deg celcius, similiar to your hot baths .. then something is stuck in your rad, the flow might be inconsistent, meaning some debris have redirected the flow reducing the flow to the rad fins .. but this is just speculation (unless your attempt to crack an egg to seal a hole (aka mythbusters style))
tip: 70 deg cel will scald your fingers

if the temps is felt like someone's hot fever, then it's nothing is wrong .. just that probe thing ... get a new one .. most probraly it got bended somewhere ..

what kinda bath do you take? 70c is 158F...you make spaghetteos during your bath time and cook lobsters!

[WhiteFireDragon]

70 deg celcius is false reading ... if you remember taking hot baths ... 70 deg celcius is about it
check it .. if it's really that temps ... do not rely too much on the probes .. but instead your instinctive nature

the temp might not be necissarily false, although it probably is. there is a big difference between CPU core temp and water temp because it's not 100% efficiency of transferring heat instantly. actual CPU temps will always be higher than water temps. if you really want to know true water temps, then the probe has to be in the water, so 70 deg CPU could be very real. if this is the case, then there is not good contact between your CPU and water block so the chip heats up, while water temps stays low

[eXa]

reduce your MCP655 to 1/5 .. you do not need to have high flow, in fact .. having high flow = high rotating = higher heat dump
remember .. you're not pushing your water thru 10 meter loops ... your loop is approx 1 meter

70 deg celcius is false reading ... if you remember taking hot baths ... 70 deg celcius is about it
check it .. if it's really that temps ... do not rely too much on the probes .. but instead your instinctive nature

if the temps is thaaaaat high .. 70 deg celcius, similiar to your hot baths .. then something is stuck in your rad, the flow might be inconsistent, meaning some debris have redirected the flow reducing the flow to the rad fins .. but this is just speculation (unless your attempt to crack an egg to seal a hole (aka mythbusters style))
tip: 70 deg cel will scald your fingers

if the temps is felt like someone's hot fever, then it's nothing is wrong .. just that probe thing ... get a new one .. most probraly it got bended somewhere ..

Lol, i dare u to put ur hand in 70c hot water for 10sec, See if u can manage to hold it down there...


Cero: What temps did u have before water.... or havent u run that cpu on air before?

[Eddie3dfx]

Actually your temps sound right for the amount of heat your q6600 puts out.
Is it a B3?
Maybe adjust mount, check tim.

Lets see... psu calculator = 245 watts.

[Serpentarius]

what kinda bath do you take? 70c is 158F...you make spaghetteos during your bath time and cook lobsters!

hot springs?
i've measured once ... it's approx 73++

[aspire.comptech]

reduce your MCP655 to 1/5 .. you do not need to have high flow, in fact .. having high flow = high rotating = higher heat dump
remember .. you're not pushing your water thru 10 meter loops ... your loop is approx 1 meter

What the hell are you talking about?

The higher the flow rate the more times the water cycles through the radiator, which means more heat is dissipated.

I don't understand where people get brainwashed with this low flow is better crap because it isn't better, it's worse!

Have you ever seen a radiator review, the higher the flow rate the more heat is dissipated...

[Zaskar]

What the hell are you talking about?

The higher the flow rate the more times the water cycles through the radiator, which means more heat is dissipated.

I don't understand where people get brainwashed with this low flow is better crap because it isn't better, it's worse!

Have you ever seen a radiator review, the higher the flow rate the more heat is dissipated...

I thought speed water travels through a rad doesnt matter, but flow mattered more for the water blocks themselves to carry heat off the chip.

[aspire.comptech]

To a point it makes a difference.

The faster the flow rate the more turbulence you get in the block, this helps the water absorb more heat, and prevents a non-moving layer of water form forming.

In addition, the faster the flow is the more times the same bit of water makes a complete circuit of the loop. Each time it moves through the loop, it is warmed by the cpu and then the heat is dissipated in the radiator.

The more times it does that, the more heat it dissipates.

[CERO]

Hi all thanks for your input.

I did orientated the Quad insert chamber properly, but maybe it didnt devide the cores equally. And my chip is a g0, before I went W/c I clocked my Quad to 3.825 ghz with 1.376 vcore on a TRUE , temps with TJmax 105 : 58c.........and that will be 48c with Tjmax 95..... EVentho the ambient was cooler i think about 19c, with watercooling I would expect a improvement....I will have to try some remounts, but removing the quad insert chamber might be a pain since i have to take all fluid out. Any advice where I should start for removing the liquid? Getting tubes out of the Dtek ( fitting) is like a almost impossible job u would earlier unscrew the barb since it is so tight, same goes for the D5. Normally I would think by starting with the resevoir but my resevoir is a bay res isnt that practical, I want to re-use the water again.

* Edit the weird thing is during prime I touch the RAD, it isnt even close to hot , not even really warm...... Also the tubes arent feeling realy warm at all

[Mick64]

Your temps seem very similar to mine and I have also been concerned that they are too high. I have been playing with my loop for weeks trying to improve temps but have only had limited success. I am also surprised that you can run prime stable at that frequency with such a low v-core. I have to crank it up to over 1.5 volts to get mine stable @ 3.8 GHz and then my temp's sky-rocket! Here's the thing, my rad temp also seems only slightly warm to the touch, which sounds like it should be a bad mount (not enough heat transfer between the CPU and the waterblock) but I have lapped both the CPU and the WB, I've had the waterblock stepped, added a back-plate to the motherboard, used higher compression springs, and re-mounted several times with little difference in temps. I am now starting to think that some of these quad core CPU's do not indicate temperature correctly, this is because I have a temperature probe attached to the edge of the IHS and the temperature measured with this seems to have dropped and the temperature measured by the motherboard sensor also seems to have dropped. Anyway, just something to think about, hope you have better luck than I've had.

Edit: What are your idle temps BTW?

[Lloyd]

i saw someone with similar temps the other day - he had the in and out the wrong way round on the fuzion!

[Eddie3dfx]

Hi all thanks for your input.

I did orientated the Quad insert chamber properly, but maybe it didnt devide the cores equally. And my chip is a g0, before I went W/c I clocked my Quad to 3.825 ghz with 1.376 vcore on a TRUE , temps with TJmax 105 : 58c.........and that will be 48c with Tjmax 95..... EVentho the ambient was cooler i think about 19c, with watercooling I would expect a improvement....I will have to try some remounts, but removing the quad insert chamber might be a pain since i have to take all fluid out. Any advice where I should start for removing the liquid? Getting tubes out of the Dtek ( fitting) is like a almost impossible job u would earlier unscrew the barb since it is so tight, same goes for the D5. Normally I would think by starting with the resevoir but my resevoir is a bay res isnt that practical, I want to re-use the water again.

* Edit the weird thing is during prime I touch the RAD, it isnt even close to hot , not even really warm...... Also the tubes arent feeling realy warm at all

Bad Mount-Bad Tim, no question

[CERO]

i saw someone with similar temps the other day - he had the in and out the wrong way round on the fuzion!

Judging from my picture the in and out should be right.

Bad Mount-Bad Tim, no question

Any tips how I should mount? What I did I just draw the line methode like on the AS5 instruction with MX-2 ( not to thick layer) and pushed the WB on it and I try to keep pushing it while I was crosswise securing it.

Oke I lil update I removed the Quadinsert chamber and put back the stock in now I am bleeding all the air out, will let u know as soon I installed everything.

And thnx every1 for your input

[Wolf132]

Here are my temps with a WC q6600 and a fusion v2 with quad insert. Goes down to around 28 at night when it isn't 100F outside.

[leo_bsb]

Mine was giving the weird results too, changed to realtemp and temperatures are ok, under 60º

[Lloyd]

Sorry i missed the pic.
The other thing i was going to say, is the quad insert oriented the right way?

[CERO]

Sorry i missed the pic.
The other thing i was going to say, is the quad insert oriented the right way?

Yea it was, however i took out the liquid alrdy and put in the stock chamber. doing some bleeding right now, will keep u guys up to date.