Our good friend David Baker...

[RSmura]

Is back in the news.

http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/frame...?id%3D8637

Moved from WCG section
Movieman

[[XC] Hicks121]

I read the article a bit, but why is he our friend?

[sierra_bound]

He's being sarcastic. Movieman can tell you how much he loves Mr. Baker.

[Jaco]

That pr**k is the main reason we left Rosetta@home

Now you better go change the topic before Movieman sees that
(or he might have a heartattack)

[[XC] Hicks121]

Ok, enough said, I was thinking right then. Thanks for the clarification.

[Brother Esau]

He's being sarcastic. Movieman can tell you how much he loves Mr. Baker.

[[XC] riptide]

Baker is a ........ Pr@ck!

[Movieman]

Baker is a Phucken Pr@ck!

Now lets be nice..
You can leave out the highlighted word and still describe the gentleman..
The guy is very smart but just doesn't have any people skills. That simple.

[[XC] riptide]

Now lets be nice..
You can leave out the highlighted word and still describe the gentleman..
The guy is very smart but just doesn't have any people skills. That simple.

Fixed.....

Dave. people skills? I can't find the link. but I've said this before. Theres a video out there on the great tubes and boxes we call the internet, where he gives a lecture about that project and refers demeaningly to the volunteer crunchers (ie US) as children, and laughs and jokes about the idea that we have to satisfy the children and pretty much pi$$ed me off.!

People skills? Bahaaah.

[phelan1777]

<raises hand.............umm who is he?

[[XC] riptide]

<raises hand.............umm who is he?

Hes the :banana::banana::banana: on the left. He runs the Rosetta@Home Project. A good project by all accounts and very successfull with the annual CASP protein project. I think we run Rosetta WU's also on WCG on one of them projects.

He's just a fool and pandered up to the jealous people with P3's, and those who crunched SETI. he also, critically, refused point blank to declare that we weren't cheaters. And he had many oppurtunities to do so.

So Mr. DDTUNG and the rest of us decided to give him the proverbial two fingers and moved away from Rosetta.

There are still people who crunch Rosetta for XS and I respect that decision. And I've also defended the idea of berating Baker in the Rosetta XS subforum as I beleived it to be unfair to the current members there, some of whom are also on this WCG team.

[phelan1777]

hmmm it seems to me, that if he has to bother to pay attention to the issue of "cheating", why because someone may produce more points then he?

Then, maybe his focus is misdirected?

[RSmura]

Fixed.....

Dave. people skills? I can't find the link. but I've said this before. Theres a video out there on the great tubes and boxes we call the internet, where he gives a lecture about that project and refers demeaningly to the volunteer crunchers (ie US) as children, and laughs and jokes about the idea that we have to satisfy the children and pretty much pi$$ed me off.!

People skills? Bahaaah.

Here is the video:

[Movieman]

Fixed.....

Dave. people skills? I can't find the link. but I've said this before. Theres a video out there on the great tubes and boxes we call the internet, where he gives a lecture about that project and refers demeaningly to the volunteer crunchers (ie US) as children, and laughs and jokes about the idea that we have to satisfy the children and pretty much pi$$ed me off.!

People skills? Bahaaah.

I may still have that video and if memory serves me it was Rob Smura that sent me the link.
Yes, his "children".. Insulting at the least.
Just another example of someone who lives a sheltered life who is clueless as to what the real world is.
Trust me, my BP is much better since we left there and if I ever happenned to meet this pr*ck I'd probably introduce him to my right hand just one time.

[[XC] riptide]

Here is the video:

What a scum bag. He even uses an Apple?

[littleowl]

I may still have that video and if memory serves me it was Rob Smura that sent me the link.
Yes, his "children".. Insulting at the least.
Just another example of someone who lives a sheltered life who is clueless as to what the real world is.
Trust me, my BP is much better since we left there and if I ever happenned to meet this pr*ck I'd probably introduce him to my right hand just one time.

you were too slow!

[RSmura]

What a scum bag. He even uses an Apple?

Would that make him a mac-pric?

[Archetype450]

Watching this video gave me a different feeling than you guys... Probably because I'm a french speaker, but the "needy children" thing did not bother me much... What bothers me is more the whole video : he's talking to other scientists about us, like if we knew nothing about what we are doing... Like : "It's so funny to see people begging to help science, they are dumb people who just can't achieve the intelligence level that we have, but we said 'OK, you can participate by giving your CPU cycles'... and guess what : they ate that, the whole thing, so we get more computers for free than what we could ever buy!!!"

I feel like if the other scientists were as geek (is it the right word?) as him, they would have started to laugh near the end of the video.... but no, seems like the audience respect us, and they didn't fell into the joke Baker was telling with a smile...

[Martijn]

Would that make him a mac-pric?

He sure looks like one

[littleowl]

Watching this video gave me a different feeling than you guys... Probably because I'm a french speaker, but the "needy children" thing did not bother me much... What bothers me is more the whole video : he's talking to other scientists about us, like if we knew nothing about what we are doing... Like : "It's so funny to see people begging to help science, they are dumb people who just can't achieve the intelligence level that we have, but we said 'OK, you can participate by giving your CPU cycles'... and guess what : they ate that, the whole thing, so we get more computers for free than what we could ever buy!!!"

I feel like if the other scientists were as geek (is it the right word?) as him, they would have started to laugh near the end of the video.... but no, seems like the audience respect us, and they didn't fell into the joke Baker was telling with a smile...

I agree that is how I felt when this all happened.

[TheGoat Eater]

I feel like if the other scientists were as geek (is it the right word?) as him, they would have started to laugh near the end of the video.... but no, seems like the audience respect us, and they didn't fell into the joke Baker was telling with a smile...

I agree with you on this - did seem like the audience didn't agree with him... GEEK is the right word but in the context you would use a y at the end so he was "geeky" (what is that... a (past-tense) adjective as in you could also use slimy, greasy,a-holey) ... as you can tell I like grammar but as I type I don't always do a good job

[phicks]

I remember the guy and the bs. He lacks a bit more than people skills. Don't think anyone cried when the Teddies left either.

[SiGfever]

If someone as honorable as DDTUNG felt slighted by this man that is proof enough for me.

But I would prefer to call Mr. Baker a....Crapweasel!

[Movieman]

Watching this video gave me a different feeling than you guys... Probably because I'm a french speaker, but the "needy children" thing did not bother me much... What bothers me is more the whole video : he's talking to other scientists about us, like if we knew nothing about what we are doing... Like : "It's so funny to see people begging to help science, they are dumb people who just can't achieve the intelligence level that we have, but we said 'OK, you can participate by giving your CPU cycles'... and guess what : they ate that, the whole thing, so we get more computers for free than what we could ever buy!!!"

I feel like if the other scientists were as geek (is it the right word?) as him, they would have started to laugh near the end of the video.... but no, seems like the audience respect us, and they didn't fell into the joke Baker was telling with a smile...

Very well said.
There is a distain for the "people" that he needs to accomplish his work.
Now in that way of thinking should I look down on someone who doesn't have the talents that I do? Of course not. We all have our areas of expertise, areas that we know a little about and areas where we are clueless.
It doesn't make one person better than the other only different in their knowledge base.
This is where he shows himself to be a very "small" person despite his intelligence level. It takes more than that to make a well rounded person.
One other thing that he just truly missed is that the people who come to help on projects are usually what I'd describe as very "giving" people.
The ones that I call "good hearts"
This is really a major flaw in his character and in the long run is his loss as he loses the interaction with some very good people.

[64dragon]

ick he uses a mac. he's a horrible public speaker, from that video i dont perceive him as "smart" or educated. he seems like a cheap skate, he used the SETI program for rosetta, because he couldn't create his own program? and from RSmura's link in original post, he created a game so other people could do his work and find a new protien structure?

i say we stamp reject on his forehead and push him in front of a heavy moving object (bus, train...)