GeForce 9900 GTX & GTS Slated For July Launch

[fiveprime]

Hey......my birthday is in july......

[Mk]

CJ say's

Quote:
Originally Posted by serenity
I'm getting a sneaky suspicion that CJ's alarm clock didnt go off.

Or he might have hit the snooze button!

You were right.

Anyway, I got some updates.

The X4100 number for the GTX 280 was correct with the drivers at the time. Seems that NV was able to push it to X4800 with the latest drivers. They might add some more points when they enable PhysX on their GPU, but that kinda goes against Futuremark rules... since a PPU can assist for a higher score and not a GPU... this could add up to 1000 points in the CPU test... so we'll have to see what Futuremark decides about including the PhysX into the score....

But here's what you all wanted to hear.... According to the same source R700 scores about X5500> in Vantage.
Oh and my buddies at VR-Zone tested a HD4850 OC 700Mhz. P64xx score in Vantage.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...16#post1169916

WoW looks like nvidia lose for the frist time in a long time

[jaredpace]

CJ say's

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...16#post1169916

WoW looks like nvidia lose for the frist time in a long time

it's quite possible gtx 280 might lose in 3dmark to a R700. 8800/9800 GTX's can lose to a 3870x2 in 3dmark all day, and outperform them by a long shot in real world gaming benches.

[XS Janus]

25W in idle look nice.
GPU power only when needed.

[jas420221]

it's quite possible gtx 280 might lose in 3dmark to a R700. 8800/9800 GTX's can lose to a 3870x2 in 3dmark all day, and outperform them by a long shot in real world gaming benches.

Yeah R600 spanked gts640/320 in 3dmk. She was a benching queen.

Though I have never seen a 8800gtx or 9800gtx beat a 3870x2....at least its not common at all.

[zerazax]

What killed R600/RV670 was AF. If that's fixed, then I bet a lot of those "real world" benches are going to sing a different tune

[fiveprime]

Who knows, we wont, not till july.

[mascaras]

8800/9800 GTX's can lose to a 3870x2 in 3dmark all day

In 2k5 and 2k6 yes , but last time i checked the ATi HD38x0 cards & drivers were not so good in 3dmark vantage and CJ is talking about RV770/R700 3DMark VANTAGE numbers , not 2k5 & 2k6 ........

so if that vantage numbers are real , that might be a good sign !

Let´s wait a few more days to see real benchs/games performance !


regards

[annihilat0r]

thats just not true
when i bios modded my 2900xt to 900/1000 gpu-z easily displayed my new clocks as the new stock

I know it can detect your 2900XT's clock. I meant, it can't detect GTX 280's clocks, can it? It shows 0 MHz as current clock.

[l33t p1mp]

Dang...very nice looking card.

[annihilat0r]

Never, ever compare a SLI/CF frame rate with a non-SLI/CF frame rate. The two are not comparable. SLI/CF suffers heavily from unsynchronised frames from both cards and in most games, a lot of the frames SLI/CF produces don't increase your viewing experience (don't make the game smoother) but contribute to stuttering. When you're in SLI, what FRAPS shows you as FPS is irrelevant.

It's such a basic concept, and it's so easy to prove it by just taking some frame time benchmarks from FRAPS and so easy to understand what it means; yet nearly all of the major hardware reviewing sites ignore those and say "We had a frame rate increase of 30FPS when we plugged in a second 8800GT!!" Yeah, you did, but it's probably of no use. Hardware sites should inform the consumer about this. No one should buy SLI, 3870x2 or 9800GX2. I own a 8800GT SLI and know this exactly well.

3870x2 didn't take the performance crown from 8800 Ultra, and 9800GX2 didn't take the crown back from 3870x2. Until the new ATI and NVidia single-GPU parts are released, the performance king is still 8800 Ultra.

[AliG]

HussanAli,
Then you might want to head for the proper thread?


*points at thread title*

Nah I know this thread is about the gtx, and I try to stay neutral where I can, I'm just sick of hearing OBR's fanboy comments


But I do have to agree regardless of what the performance outcomes are the gtx 280 does definitely look a lot cooler (as in more awesome, no pun intended) than the r700

[jaredpace]

Though I have never seen a 8800gtx or 9800gtx beat a 3870x2....at least its not common at all.

nvidia is quite a bit faster in this recent review of cod4:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3275&p=6

if you're talking about 3dmark06 scores, all the WR's are done on X2s and CrossfireX X2s

[AliG]

nvidia is quite a bit faster in this recent review of cod4:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3275&p=6

if you're talking about 3dmark06 scores, all the WR's are done on X2s and CrossfireX X2s

Man the quality of the reviews (imo) has really degraded, not to mention the numbers are on a huge spectrum also, sometimes you really wonder whether or not these sites are simply drawing numbers out of their ass, spray paint them gold and then pretend they are real or just look at other reviews, take pictures of a card, then change them numbers to their liking (but keeping them close enough to look legit)

[GoThr3k]

Nope....

Idle: 25W
3DMark06: 147W

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=283808

strange cause it has 236W TDP

[fornowagain]

But surely, video cards can't violate the second law of thermodynamics. What goes in, must come out.
150W power draw = ~150W heat output.

True, true. Though don't forget the few watts as work done by the fan

[annihilat0r]

A single card drawing 250 watts is impossible. Even a 8800 Ultra drew 130-150W. I wonder what TDP Ultra was rated at?

[DilTech]

strange cause it has 236W TDP

236 is absolute max, as in if EVERY single transistor of the chip is running at full load(here's a hint, that's not going to happen)... Every single shader, TMU, Rop, using ALL of the memory bandwidth as well as ALL off the memory itself...Everything.

In all reality, that pretty much never is going to happen, period. Once one part bottlenecks the performance, boom, you're not on full load of the chip.

[BlazinTiger]

referring to whoever said the $600 was bad...wasnt that how it was with the G80 when it first came out?

[Anth Seebel]

Never, ever compare a SLI/CF frame rate with a non-SLI/CF frame rate. The two are not comparable. SLI/CF suffers heavily from unsynchronised frames from both cards and in most games, a lot of the frames SLI/CF produces don't increase your viewing experience (don't make the game smoother) but contribute to stuttering. When you're in SLI, what FRAPS shows you as FPS is irrelevant.

It's such a basic concept, and it's so easy to prove it by just taking some frame time benchmarks from FRAPS and so easy to understand what it means; yet nearly all of the major hardware reviewing sites ignore those and say "We had a frame rate increase of 30FPS when we plugged in a second 8800GT!!" Yeah, you did, but it's probably of no use. Hardware sites should inform the consumer about this. No one should buy SLI, 3870x2 or 9800GX2. I own a 8800GT SLI and know this exactly well.

3870x2 didn't take the performance crown from 8800 Ultra, and 9800GX2 didn't take the crown back from 3870x2. Until the new ATI and NVidia single-GPU parts are released, the performance king is still 8800 Ultra.

Well said, micro-stutter=no thx. Perhaps NVIDIA can fix this ?

I remember when I had my Voodoo 2's in SLI and no micro-stutter, so perhaps they can achieve it. Mite be selling my 780i soon otherwise, waiting for new SLI tests on GTX200.

[Mk]

512-Bit
1GB GDDR3
240 Stream Processors
PhysX Ready
CUD Technology
PureVideo HD technology
Full MS DirectX 10 Support
Open GL 2.1, SLI, PCI 2.0 Support

without using the PhysX

using the PhysX

[Isaac MM]

Looking at the pictures, do you think the aftermarket heatsinks avaliable today can be used on it or they will make new ones for it?

[Anth Seebel]

Very funny.

[Mk]

i'm just posting everything i find on the net

[GoldenTiger]

referring to whoever said the $600 was bad...wasnt that how it was with the G80 when it first came out?

I think this was hashed out finely in the main thread to the conclusion that a 90% as fast computer could be built in the U.S. for $650, past cards except the last generation or so have all been much cheaper, and people just don't care nowadays and want to pay as much as they humanly can for a card, no matter how out-of-line it is with the past. They see it as a good value to spend twice as much for 10% performance, everyone else be damned who cares about bang for the buck. They think it's the "pay to play" mentality, and deny that it's an issue.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=731

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=750