AMD Radeon HD6950/6970(Cayman) Reviews

AMD Radeon HD 6950 / HD 6970 Reviews
http://www.ixbt.com/short/images/2010/Dec/69b-big.jpg


Video Reviews:

• MotherBoards.org Part 1
• MotherBoards.org Part 2
• MotherBoards.org 6970 Unboxing
• MotherBoards.org 6970 Vietnam Edition
• Overclock3D 6970 Review
• Overclock3D 6950 Review

Reviews:

Radeon HD 6970 & HD 6950

• HardOCP
• VR-Zone
• FudZilla
• HardwareCanucks
• Lab501
• AnandTech
• HotHardware
• Guru3D
• PcPer
• Hexus
• HardwareZone
• HardwareHeaven
• HardwareHeaven (OC)
• PureOverclock
• TomsHardware
• TechReport
• NeoSeeker
• HT4U
• AlienBabelTech
• Overclock3D
• Hardware
• OverclockersClub
• Rage3D
• XbitLabs
• WideScreenGaming
• IXBT(Russia) English
• Overclockers(Russia) English
• ComputerBase(Germany) English
• Hardware(France) English
• PcGamesHardware(Germany) English
• SweClockers(Sweden) English
• Overclockers(Ukraine) English

Radeon HD 6970

• BenchmarkReviews
• BenchmarkReviews (PowerColor)
• TechPowerUp
• Bit-Tech
• Legion Hardware
• TweakTown
• TechSpot
• HiTechLegion
• Overclockers.com
• Lanoc
• TBreak
• Lab501(Romania) English

Radeon HD 6950

• TechPowerUp
• Vortez
• TweakTown
• Eteknix
• Modders
• HiTechLegion
• PcWorld
• NinjaLane

Radeon HD 6970 & HD 6950 CrossFire

• TechPowerUp
• LegitReviews
• Guru3D
• XtremeSystems(6950)
• XtremeSystems(6970)
• KitGuru
• TweakTown
• Hexus
• Overclock3D
• TechGage

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

So, let the party begin.... Will update topic when more links come.

AMD Radeon HD 6950 / HD 6970 Reviews

English Reviews:

In Progress...

Other Language Reviews:

IXBT: http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part1.shtml Translation: http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

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That review is weak sauce, Unigine is not a game.


edit: reviews posted by onethreehill just in case Dezmen needs his sleep ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=57

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Originally Posted by mutantmagnet

I'm surprised noone has posted this yet.

Kanter has done an analysis of Cayman.

http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT121410213827

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It gives decent preliminary info. ;)
Nice tessellation improvements, but not enough to catch up with Fermi. Good pricing. Outperforming GTX570 by 10-20% at high resolutions or when AA+AF are enabled.

pls don't need quote whole topic ^^ IXBT review is sux, they used old drivers :( + don't test most of recent games... waiting for more reviews...

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Originally Posted by safan80

That review is weak sauce, Unigine is not a game.

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http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part3.shtml

IXBT used 10.11 drivers = FAIL

Also notice 6950 is faster than 6970 in some benchmarks. That's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

they used old drivers :(

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They used the drivers that came with the cards (8.79.6.0 or 8.79.6.2, both are 10.11, I believe the latter comes with the cards). This is what most people are going to do, aren't they?
10.12 came only yesterday, clearly not nearly enough time to re-bench everything. And AFAIK 10.12 does not support 69xx without mods...

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

pls don't need quote whole topic ^^ IXBT review is sux, they used old drivers :( + don't test most of recent games... waiting for more reviews...

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you better be prepared to keep the first post updated, or we are going to give it to onethreehill.

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Originally Posted by cold2010

http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part3.shtml

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part 2 is more revealing, that's for sure

http://www.ixbt.com/video/itogi-vide...1920-pcie.html

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Originally Posted by zalbard

They used the drivers that came with the cards. This is what most people will do, won't they?
10.12 came only yesterday, clearly not nearly enough time to re-bench everything. And AFAIK 10.12 does not support 69xx without mods...

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but where ppl got 8.851?O_o

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Originally Posted by safan80

you better be prepared to keep the first post updated, or we are going to give it to onethreehill.

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/me have right to sleep :P

If you release a driver 30 hours before NDA, you can't complain if half of review sites do benches with the old driver.

You guys should let onethreehill make these threads. He is much better at updating the list.

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

/me have right to sleep :P

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NO as a review thread starter you have taken on a big responsibility. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Solus Corvus

You guys should let onethreehill make these threads. He is much better at updating the list.

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Let me try :)) i'm online pretty all the time when foreign webs updates :P

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Originally Posted by safan80

NO as a review thread starter you have taken on a big responsibility. :rofl:

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ok ok -.- go go red bull xD

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

Let me try :)) i'm online pretty all the time when foreign webs updates :P

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Most other posters haven't been able to keep up in the past. Good luck. *:toast:**

*this is a caffeinated beverage for you.
**this is a beer for me.

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

but where ppl got 8.851?O_o

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Usual test version leaks, not from reviewers, obviously. Someone might re-bench the cards in a week or so if this driver is so much better (which is unlikely). We had a similar situation before. :)

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

but where ppl got 8.851?O_o

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Fake.

so what I'm getting is that the performance food chain looks like this: 5970 > gtx580 > 6970 > gtx570 > 6950 for the foreseeable future, with a swap from 5970 to 6990 at some point next year. Now the relative value of each card is something else all together ;)

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Originally Posted by antiacid

so what I'm getting is that the performance food chain looks like this: 5970 > gtx580 > 6970 > gtx570 > 6950 for the foreseeable future, with a swap from 5970 to 6990 at some point next year. Now the relative value of each card is something else all together ;)

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Either that, or you can get 2-3-4 69x0 cards now. :yepp:

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Originally Posted by antiacid

so what I'm getting is that the performance food chain looks like this: 5970 > gtx580 > 6970 > gtx570 > 6950 for the foreseeable future, with a swap from 5970 to 6990 at some point next year. Now the relative value of each card is something else all together ;)

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why is the 5 series still better than the 6?

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Originally Posted by osiris999

why is the 5 series still better than the 6?

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6990 not coming out till Q1 2011

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Originally Posted by osiris999

why is the 5 series still better than the 6?

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Dual GPU at the top, which will be displaced by the 6990 soon.

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Originally Posted by osiris999

why is the 5 series still better than the 6?

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5970 = dual GPU, 6970 is a single GPU.

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Originally Posted by osiris999

why is the 5 series still better than the 6?

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Just wanted to continue chain quoting of the same post.

This thread will be full of win in next couple of days!! Complaints about the drivers being old would take a lead role in this one :P:

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Originally Posted by safan80

That review is weak sauce, Unigine is not a game.

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

test most of recent games...

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here you, just stop crying.

How is it possible in Dirt2 Hardwareluxx test, he get +44% on min fps and only 2fps on average vs a 5870 ? Driver problem? demo benchmark?

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Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

here you, just stop crying.

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I talked about Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Call of Duty: Black Ops(or Modern Warfare 2) and some other...

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Originally Posted by Lanek

How is it possible in Dirt2 Hardwareluxx test, he get +44% on min fps and only 2fps on average vs a 5870 ? Driver problem? demo benchmark?

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Lag spike? Thats why graphs of the total game play FPS is useful.

huum, yes but 2fps difference ? seriously, you make it run 3 times and you will get 3 times +- 2fps average difference ... or the 6970 improvement don't work well on this game.

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Originally Posted by Solus Corvus

You guys should let onethreehill make these threads. He is much better at updating the list.

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I agree, why starting thread with "in progress", instead of waiting for some real reviews.
This way at least there wont be any need to speculate about the drivers.

EDIT
Plus the links this thread started with were already posted in "AMD Cayman info (or rumor)" thread,
probably for good reason.

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

I agree, why starting thread with "in progress", instead of waiting for some real reviews.
This way at least there wont be any need to speculate about the drivers.

EDIT
Plus the links this thread started with were already posted in "AMD Cayman info (or rumor)" thread,
probably for good reason.

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I'm posting here summary info/benches/reviews... so ppl don't need search through 100000 pages...

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

I'm posting here summary info/benches/reviews... so ppl don't need search through 100000 pages...

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Keep it up - got the chips out, only a few hours until midnight in Europe. ;)

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Originally Posted by twistedneck

Keep it up - got the chips out, only a few hours until midnight in Europe. ;)

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Almost 3am, you mean. :p:

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Almost 3am, you mean. :p:

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3:46AM here :))) GMT+2

3.56 here too. Obviously I won't stay awake.

It's almost 5 AM here.

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Originally Posted by xBanzai89

Lag spike? Thats why graphs of the total game play FPS is useful.

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That's min fps though... so it's weird, but the min fps increase of 44% is pretty significant

Maybe 6970 can't go as high in max fps consistently as 5870, but has a far higher minimum and thus relatively same average, but higher mins are always better

More important than max.:yepp:

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

I'm posting here summary info/benches/reviews... so ppl don't need search through 100000 pages...

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Let's call the right way. You posting rumors from the rumor thread. I doubt right now anybody cares about the rumors and users benchmark should come from members at this forum.

As I said the main reason for waiting for the real reviews is to end the speculation about the drivers. Which keeps going on same as in the rumor thread, no need for that.

Right now this thread is about as good as if somebody started a new thread about reviews with this:
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5...pboard01ax.jpg

/updated ... xD

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Let's call the right way. You posting rumors from the rumor thread. I doubt right now anybody cares about the rumors and users benchmark should come from members at this forum.

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I post rumors also, so ppl will compare with real reviews :P So i put "User Benches" ;)

The cards are out on Newegg. 370$ price tag is just Pure WIN!!

Wow cards out before reviews :ROTF:

$370 for 6970
$300 for 6950

Awesome. Those 6950's look like a potential 5850 repeat scenario

OMGZ 6950 for $15!!!!111

Now, I'll be getting a 6970 for the new year.

This industry sucks. Too many brainwashed consumers and fanboys all over the place. What happened to the 4800 series generation pricing? You know, $300 for a new 4870 and $200 for the 4850. Looks like the 6970 is going to be just under $400 and almost the same as the 5870 release pricing. This sucks. Too much for hardware that changes faster than the average punk gamer changes his underwear. I know, it's less than the 580 GTX, but Nvida likes to rip off the "intelligent" who buy this stuff.

I'm sure a ton of zombies will claim that this is great pricing. Nvida has been ripping off the foolish for years and now AMD decided to join them. We need some more competition. This crap is way overpriced and yes I can afford to buy all of them if I wanted. I want lower prices. Luckily, as the global economy falls on it's face over the next few years and millions join the ranks of unemployed, no one will be buying this crap unless they can convert it to food or firewood. Bye...bye Nvidia and Amd. I guess you can focus on military applications.

The 6800 series fill that 4800 role nicely. You can get very good performance at $180-240.

So, now that we have the full 6 series released, can somebody make a list of AMD cards in ascending order according to performance?
For reference, consider this:

4850 -> 4870 -> 5770 -> 4890 -> 5850 -> 5870.

How does the HD 58xx series perform in comparison with the HD 68xx and 69xx? (Disregard dual-card products like the 5970).

I seriously got lost ever since they released the HD68xx series.

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Originally Posted by zerazax

OMGZ 6950 for $15!!!!111

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I .... I ....

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*sob*

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Originally Posted by cegras

I .... I ....

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*sob*

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lol

6970: $370
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6970&x=29&y=21

6950: $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=6950&x=0&y=0

I... I am... dis... disappointed...

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Originally Posted by sniper_sung

I... I am... dis... disappointed...

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About what? There are no decent reviews up yet.

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Originally Posted by safan80

About what? There are no reviews up yet.

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Fixed :welcome:

Expect to see more of these kinda comments for the next couple of days :ROTF:

HD 6970 and HD6950 Reviews
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...html?doc=10474
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=605&Itemid=72
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=606&Itemid=72
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...50-review.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-6970-review/1
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/201...-6950-review/1
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27983
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1051
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6950/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6970/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...eo_card_review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/a...radeon-hd-6950
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...0-und-hd-6950/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-6950-6970-review/
http://lab501.ro/placi-video/gigabyt...970-si-hd-6950
http://www.techspot.com/review/348-amd-radeon-6970/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...yman,2818.html
http://hitechlegion.com/reviews/vide...hd-6950-review
http://hitechlegion.com/reviews/vide...eo-card-review
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...hd6950_review/
http://tbreak.com/tech/2010/12/amd-hd-6970-review/
http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/...launch_review/
http://www.vortez.co.uk/articles_pag...gb_review.html
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1164.html
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1165.html
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/20126
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha..._hd6950/5.html
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2010/amd_rad...0_cayman_test/
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=22610
http://www.pcinlife.com/article/grap...339d866_8.html
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,80...fikkarte/Test/
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-hd69...s-card-review/
http://www.hartware.net/review_1209.html
http://lanoc.org/review/hardware/vid...ietnam-edition
http://www.ninjalane.com/reviews/video/sapphire-6950
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...d6950_review/1
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/373...ard/index.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/373...ard/index.html
http://www.eteknix.com/graphics/his-...rd-review-471/
http://www.modders-inc.com/modules.p...Story&reid=340
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...arge-Chip.html
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1963
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1966
http://www.technic3d.com/article-119...te-im-test.htm
http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/xfx_hd_6970_review/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...rd-Review/1151
http://www.expreview.com/13051.html
http://www.hkepc.com/5874

HD 6970 CrossFire Review
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28056
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/37...ire/index.html

HD 6950 CrossFire Review
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...950_CrossFire/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...sfirex-review/

HD 6970 and HD 6950 CrossFire Review
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/813-...ossfire-x.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/1/

HD 6970 vs HD 6950 vs HD 5870 vs GTX 570 - All Overclocked
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

VR Zone
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...html?doc=10474

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Thanks... check this out guys.. with better drivers it should beat the 580

wow nice framrates....that 2g of ram comes in handy'
toaster oven comes to mind thuo(unless they have a new bios like they usally have to do) its as hot as 480??? eats up more power then i'm used to seeing from an amd card too!!
maybe someone can cook eggs on it this week? the stuff that would not cook on a 480 would get well done on the 6970 np.
You get what you pay for...

I find it funny when they compare 69x0 to a 5870 with 1gb when there's a 2gb version..

Not really impressed with the 6970 to be honest. Though the 2GB is nice but it seems quite disappointing, it still can't beat the GTX 580 and they had to cut the shader count, most likely to save power similar to GTX 480.

6850 overclocked performing like 6870 in some tests:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/i.../oc_mafia2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Loque

I find it funny when they compare 69x0 to a 5870 with 1gb when there's a 2gb version..

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also iirc, 5870 2gb performed basically the same as a 1gb card unless you were pushing very high resolutions and stupid amounts of AA.

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

VR Zone
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...html?doc=10474

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it seems like the 6970 is able to beat the 570 by 2-3 fps but is never really able to catch the 580... disappointing indeed considering it uses about the same ammount of power as the 580 and runs hotter. :confused:

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Originally Posted by zoob

6850 overclocked performing like 6870 in some tests:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/i.../oc_mafia2.jpg


also iirc, 5870 2gb performed basically the same as a 1gb card unless you were pushing very high resolutions and stupid amounts of AA.

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enough percentage to close the difference gap, not to mention the better minimum fps people are noticing..

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Originally Posted by 570091D

it seems like the 6970 is able to beat the 570 by 2-3 fps but is never really able to catch the 580... disappointing indeed considering it uses about the same ammount of power as the 580 and runs hotter. :confused:

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It runs hotter but uses less power than 570.

http://resources.vr-zone.com//upload...power_load.jpg

benchmarkreviews.com

In Battleforge it's slower then 5870 :shakes: seems 6970 performance is all over the place.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4...11benchmar.jpg

It really seems slower than the 580. Any other good reviews out yet?

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...html?doc=10474
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=605&Itemid=72

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I updated my post on the first page to point to your post.

Keep updating :up:

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Originally Posted by 570091D

it seems like the 6970 is able to beat the 570 by 2-3 fps but is never really able to catch the 580... disappointing indeed considering it uses about the same ammount of power as the 580 and runs hotter. :confused:

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Are you just looking at TDP? Look at the power consumption, it consumes less than GTX 570.

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Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

benchmarkreviews.com

In Battleforge it's slower then 5870 :shakes: seems 6970 performance is all over the place.

IMG]http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4041/battleforgedx11benchmar.jpg[/IMG]

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This is disappointing. I think pricing is where AMD can win. It's needs to be priced the same as the 5870 on release.

whats the point of making benchmark of AMD and PowerColor cards? xD

Those 2 reviews used media released 10.11betas. I'll be curious to find how these compare to the 10.12s (which will be the drivers the end user should be using provided they don't use the ones provided on the driver disk )

It looks like they went back to the 4870 1GB design of lower fan speed / higher temps. I personally don't mind this to be honest, those cards were quite pleasent.

Based on what has been revealed so far the 6950 should be well recieved :up:

As far as pricing 370 is decent but with the hint of their pricing increasing come Jaunary it is a tad disappointing. I bought my 5870 launch day for 420cnd and they were up to 440 shortly after.

benchmarkreviews is a pretty biased site.. should see their "opinion" piece - made charlie look sane

BTW the Vr-Zone power figures are w/ PowerTune set at +20%. You can extrapolate what it is without it

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Originally Posted by kite7

Are you just looking at TDP? Look at the power consumption, it consumes less than GTX 570.

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Its not really that significant review 13W difference from gtx580.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Reference Design 246 W
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Reference Design 241 W
ATI Radeon HD 5870 Reference Design 240 W
ATI Radeon HD 6970 Reference Design 233 W

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

It really seems slower than the 580. Any other good reviews out yet?

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Yeah, it does. Slower and hot... with price hike in jan announced too. It's ok but not special so far.

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Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

Its not really that significant review 13W difference from gtx580.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Reference Design 246 W
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Reference Design 241 W
ATI Radeon HD 5870 Reference Design 240 W
ATI Radeon HD 6970 Reference Design 233 W

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In VR-Zone, it's 6W difference but the PowerTune slider is set at +20%
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade.../10474-11.html

+20% for the 250W default for 6970 is 300W ceiling, so worst case is its drawing 50W more, so its anywhere from 6 - 56W lower. Wish they did a friggin chart w/o powertune on

So far, very disappointing performance.

I suggest all of you just close eyes on all those reviews, and wait till reviewers will have latest drivers (8.801+)

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Originally Posted by ichime

So far, very disappointing performance.

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ATI needs more time to work on the drivers.

After benchmarkreview's little oped piece

I have a hard time taking them seriously /sigh

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Originally Posted by safan80

ATI needs more time to work on the drivers.

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ATI takes a lot of time to work on the drivers ;)

That said, they do improve... look at Vantage 5870 scores at release to today... huuuugge increase. And for that matter, since 480's release, they've managed to creep up as well

The 6970 card runs slower than the GTX 580 and runs hotter than the GTX 580? WTF?

ATI really messed up here.

So far VERY disappointing. Was ready to buy a new video card today. Thanks for pissing away a 1 year lead, ATI.

Holding out hope that this is some kind of fubar where some of the sites got 'crippled' drivers, but even in that case AMD is screwing up the launch.

I think I'm going to make it a rule to only trust the reviews that use the same powertune settings for the benchmarks and the power consumption figures....

*EDIT* To all the people complaining about temperatures, you have to consider the fan speeds. The power consumption of the 6900 series is lower than that of the 500 series across the board, so they necessarily run cooler at the same cooling capacity.

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Originally Posted by Chrono Detector

The 6970 card runs slower than the GTX 580 and runs hotter than the GTX 580? WTF?

ATI really messed up here.

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Hotter isn't a big deal if it's the fan speed, which is apparently set really low, which of course, those reviews managed to neglect

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Originally Posted by hurleybird

So far VERY disappointing. Was ready to buy a new video card today. Thanks for pissing away a 1 year lead, ATI.

Holding out hope that this is some kind of fubar where some of the sites got 'crippled' drivers, but even in that case AMD is screwing up the launch.

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Look at the games being benched... some of them are picking some very Nvidia-heavy games to bench (HAWX2, Lost Planet 2 for example)

Gonna go ahead and sum up what games will do what right now at 2560x1600

Games that will be Nvidia wins:

Lost Planet 2
HAWX 2
Battleforge

Games that will be AMD wins:
F1 2010

Games that will be neck and neck:
Crysis
Resident Evil 5

Games that will show immense improvement for 6970 over 5870:
Stalker:CoP
Dirt 2 (minimum FPS)
Metro 2033

This reminds me of the 480 launch... performance was all over the place due to the new architecture and differences between DX11 and legacy hardware games

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/5...02eb32b341.jpg


/happy with my 6850, this thing is very much fail so far

Do we know for a fact that the new 8.801 driver or an upcoming driver increase performance enough to make up for its current shortcomings?

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Originally Posted by JohnJohn

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/5...02eb32b341.jpg


/happy with my 6850, this thing is very much fail so far

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No way, is that a driver developer? :rofl:

I just noticed this:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=3

The 6970 only has 1536 Stream Processors, and yet it's beating the 5870 (1600 SP) by a healthy margin. What happened to the 1920 SP monster we were hearing about???


I don't believe it. They disabled some of the SP's.


The HD 6970 is AMD's version of the GTX 480! :shocked:

How can you say hot at normal noise fan is ok when it would be noisy to oc when a 580 is not?

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Originally Posted by kite7

Do we know for a fact that the new 8.801 driver or an upcoming driver increase performance enough to make up for its current shortcomings?

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Unlikely to the extreme.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6950/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6970/

Performance :confused: amd What happens

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Originally Posted by cold2010

Performance :confused: amd What happens

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They disabled some of the SP's. 1536 on the 6970 vs. 1920 originally.


That's a 20% loss in SP's.

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The HD 6970 is AMD's version of the GTX 480! :shocked:

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Not for the price of $369 which is cheaper than the price of the 5870 at newegg in a lot of cases

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Originally Posted by safan80

Not for the price of $369 which is cheaper than the price of the 5870 at newegg in a lot of cases

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But it's not the full spec card they were going to release. The 6970 only has 1536 SP's!

That leaves room for a 6990! :shrug:

fudzilla.com review is up , didn't know they made reviews :p:

Something interesting i noticed 69xx suppose to have 2x tess power , we can see it in Heaven but what happened here ? maybe it's OpenGL thing.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8339/tessmark.jpg

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...50-review.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-6970-review/1
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27983
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1051

Hardware Canucks Review :up:

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*looks above* Damnit :P

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Originally Posted by safan80

Not for the price of $369 which is cheaper than the price of the 5870 at newegg in a lot of cases

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Yet its performance is amazingly inconsistent, sometimes not much faster than the 5870, being upward of 35% slower @ 2560x1600 than a 580, while sometimes it's within 5% either way. Seems priced accurately, but can't imagine how noisy it will become when oc'ing since its stock fan for normal noise runs very hot per all the reviews thus far :(.