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Looks like there are great increases in single GPU systems, and even better at SLI systems.
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http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_38167398/tm.htm
Looks like there are great increases in single GPU systems, and even better at SLI systems.
Wow. Would like to see some benchies. Pretty impressive increases for a driver :eek:
If they keep up the good work they don't have to release any new cards!
Oh wait..
Seriously though, this looks great, I get impressed every time they can squeese some more performance from the drivers.
Anyone tried these in 3DM? :D
As long as these are performance increases in NEW games it is great. Otherwise, I don't want to see yet another 20% bump in Far Cry 2....
:lol: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mats
well it depends on how they achieve it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
exactly, and if it comes at even a slight decrease in image quality then id prefer to have worse perf but still good enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
no major performance boosts for a long time, and then all the sudden 15-30% performance boosts in several popular games that have been out for a long time? im sceptical about how they achieved that...
Again the magic performance-unlocking driver like in the Geforce FX era (Or was it 4?), right when ATI released a new set of cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
It's a possibility, but i don't think it's like that since they have been struggling against the HD5xxx series for too long. They surely would have come with this right after ATI made their move...
Lots of people have bought ATI cards because they got tired of waiting for the mystical Fermi that nobody knows anything about to compare and decide.
It was the FX series, they gave a performance boost, but dropped in Image Quality over all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontos
I really hope that didn't happen again and that it's not the only way they could get the GTX 480 to perform better than the 5870.
If so they might lose more people.
OMG 30% up? Maybe i should keep my GTX 295, who need needs Fermi aftr this :p:
In Crysis, HAWX and L4D only unless I am missing something. And these are far from being new. I wonder how they manage to keep increasing the performance in Crysis, though. Are they rewriting the engine for the devs?! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
And some gift from nvidia driver download section on web :
System Message
Please try again at a later time. Sorry for the inconvenience.
:D:D:D
it will be interesting to see some real world results...
Looks like single card scores are only affected in Crysis: Warhead, Left 4 Dead and HawX. Looks like some huge SLI patches though.
guru3d.com has it also.
testing now.
Hm, maybe because of ATI's announcement of rewriting CFX code.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Maybe, but probably not. Typically, NVIDIA quarterly driver releases incorporate a massive number of SLI updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
I can only hope this is true!! i may keep my 295, and grab a second when everyone sells for fermi... lets see some results!
So is it any good? Cause the beta driver wouldn't install for me. It crashed half way through so I had to revert to the latest 195 driver. I'm a bit weary about trying this one out...
working fine here.
previous '06 best for me in 7 32bit was 16,700. With 196.75 I scored 17,400 just 5minutes ago. So a :up: from me.
Hope this applies to XP aswell, this should put me very close to 20k :)
Anyone with a G80 or SLI G80 setup try this out yet?
A guy at DH with a GTX 280 is reporting higher AVG but lower min FPS in Crysis Warhead.
These have to be single handidly the WORST sack of :banana::banana::banana::banana: drivers I have EVER used. Constant bsods, msi afterburner causes instant lockups with drivers and I have yet to get SLI to work without a hardlock.
Also dedicated physx is broken and does not appear to work anymore with this package. I am in the process of rolling them back as we speak if I can get this computer to remain responsive long enough to do so. If you are using windows 7 64bit STAY AWAY
I was about to download and install until I read this :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
sounds funQuote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Rivatuner seems to be working fine for me. I have yet to have a bsod or even a crash to desktop. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
You don't get something for nothing.
No issues here with the new drivers. Saw a nice improvement in Vantage with and without physX. Crysis, Bioshock 2 and BFBC2 all ran just fine. This is with tri-sli 275's and Win7 64-bit.
Just installed and played L4D2 on my Asus 1201N netbook (dual core Atom, ION, 2 gigs of ram, 1366x768 res I think) and it playable. THis is the only rig I will have for my personal use while on a nice 3-5 week tour with Nvidia I have to start next week. Installing the new AVP game to see if it will play as well.
I installed this and I'm still getting 30-40FPS on BC2 on my 275 GTX on my i7 rig, WTF? I'm seeing no improvement at all.
well i loaded the drivers and had no issues, some improvements in most games as well.
one thing that pissed me off though, after installing them it would NOT at all let me use 1920x1080 @60hz with 32 bit color on my samsung tv. I noticed aero wasnt working the colors were off, went into the control panel and it was 1920x1080 @60hz 16bit color. changed to 32 bit color and it changed 60hz to 24hz, then changed that to 60hz and applied and it forced it into 1920x1080 @24hz 32 bit . i couldnt have both 32bit color and 60hz, damn driver, so i made a custom resolution of 1920x1080 @60hz 32bit color and that fixed it.
Drivers are working fine for me with a single GTX-260, W7 64. No improvement for me in L4D2 and only a small bump in Vantage, less than 100 points. I'm gonna try a few games later, but I'm not expecting much.
Installing on my 7950 GX2 and GTX 285 SLI PCs. I will test Crysis Warhead on both PCs and see what the performance change is. :)
There is a driver sub-forum,no offence :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=64
30% increase from what? an IGP,a 7600gt, a GTX295 etc..
These drivers are indeed horrible. First when I extracted the files from the .exe file, my anti virus scanner reported the setup.exe had a virus in it... WTF, and second whenever I played any video file with Media Classic Player the video file is laggy and I would have to restart the player in order to get it working normally again. Avoid installing this, I had to go back to the previous version.
most likely these improvements are had under certain conditions.
anyone tried this with win7 32 ? Wonder if it will increase 295 performance well ill try it out later today.
I've actually had a problem with new drivers significantly dropping performance in old games (see Oblivion.) Although, I definitely wouldn't consider Far Cry 2 old.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Tried the drivers. Did see a bump in FPS in BC2. Went from max fps being around lower 90's to 128 fps. Avg 70-80 prior to these drivers. With these drivers 80-90. Now with these drivers Evga Precision wasnt working cause drivers were too new so I was running the cards stock vs. running them with my usually lil oc with the last beta drivers (700/1550/1220) In game settings were AA @ 8xQ, hbao on, everything on high yadda yadda yadda with 1920 x 1200 res. Didn't really notice a diff in IQ with these vs. the 196.34 betas. Pretty damn good results with stock cards IMO but got some bad in game crashing. That's the deal breaker. Happened liked 3x. No bsod's though.
Previously I was playing BC2 SP for like 3hrs straight with the 196.34 betas and didn't get one crash. Soon as I installed the new drivers within say 15 mins in game, crash. I uninstalled the new drivers and installed the last official NV drivers with EVGA SLI Patch and didn't have any of the funky crashes I was getting with the 196.75 drivers.
Tried Mass Effect 2 with 196.75 drivers too. Sli profile my a$$ lol. Never broke 62 fps. Then again couldn't break 62 fps with Mass 2 with the evga sli patch for the last official drivers either so eh. Didn't get any in game crashes though. Truth be told soon as I saw I wasn't breaking 62 fps didn't bother playing long. Probably 10 mins max.
P.S. this was on Windows 7 64 bit.
Update: Reinstalled new drivers. Evga Precision does seem to support the newer drivers. Wierd I thought it didnt the first time. So that bump in FPS was with the cards at my usual oc, not stock.
Guys, it's not 30% performance improvement in ALL games, just a few titles...
I have installed this drivers yesterday's night. No real problems, everything seems ok (BF2:BC2, Bioshock 2, DIRT II, Borderlands ...) and no need to reboot, that's cool !
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Originally Posted by Trembledust
Your issue with Mass Effect 2 is that the game engine caps framerate at 62fps. :)
And seriously... if "beta" drivers on the nVidia side are that crashtastic I don't think I'm switching back. I have a near-zero tolerance for crashes, waste of time and happiness :/
Who need a 28% SLI boost in L4D when it runs fine on most computers? I will have to try it when I get home tho!
What settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
These drivers are fantastic for me :)
3d marks did not change much, but S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat has no stutter and a frame rate boost too :)
GTA IV also received a slight performance increase too.
Left 4 Dead which has always been smooth is still smooth, but now I can crank up the FSAA some more and still enjoy the same level of smoothness.
IMHO these are the first Forceware 195+ drivers which are actually consistently good across the board.
John
I wonder what slight of hand was used to attain this...something has been compromised somewhere...probably image quality (again). It seems odd that NVidia would just miraculously look at the drivers and say "Wow, here's an extra 30% performance that we missed earlier."
It seems more like NVidia is resorting to the tech equivalent of dropping weight on a vehicle by lessening the graphical load that the card has deal with. The question is, what did they drop to attain this?
no score improvement in vantage. GTX260 win 7 64. No instability though as a couple people have mentioned.
Up to a 30% increase in a couple of games. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
If NVIDIA states 30% performance increase in a certain game it means 15% increase in that game if you're lucky, otherwise expect 5~10% or so and in some other games if you're lucky up to 3~5% increase at most, but hey free performance upgrades doesn't cost anything...
One full check disk; manual driver removal from device manager and manual install of the lastest driver later all is well. Good god I was || close to buying an HD5870. :shakes:
Actually its my fault. When I saw sli profile I automatically assumed, which I think almost anyone who has a multi gpu system would assume, that with the introduction of a sli profile for the game, the game's frame rate would increase. Of course this didnt seem to be the case. Now the drivers which included the sli profile for Mass Effect 2 also indicated something to give the game AA support which it natively doesnt have. My guess is that with the introduction of AA to the game, u may find it harder to achieve that capped 62 fps limit. In order to compensate they added sli support for the game. Its a theory but I am finding it hard to believe Mass Effect 2 with AA would stress a single GPU to the point that u couldnt get 62 fps. Especially a 200 series card. Again its just a theory. I honestly dont see a reason to give a game a sli profile if the profile does not increase the games FPS. That would be like giving Street Fighter IV a sli / crossfire profile but keeping the frame cap its current 62. Eh watever. Of course there are ways to get rid of that capped limit. Muahahahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
In regards to your comment about the "beta" drivers. That's just it...they aren't betas. They are officials lol. Check Nv's site. I hear u though @ crashes. Doubt anyone likes those if the crashes aren't their fault. Even when they are thier fault they dont like them lol
I'll try the new drivers maybe this weekend. Do a driver sweep of old drivers etc. Want to finish the SP of BC2 first.
1920x1080, 16AF, 16AA, all maxed out settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by FlawleZ
At that resolution, HBAO on and that level of AA, sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
"Up to 30%" means:
1) With certain hardware
2) With certain graphical settings
3) In (a) certain benchmark run(s)
For those of us living in the real world, we can expect no more than 30% of that 30% even in the titles where the big increases are.
I benchmarked my 7950 GX2 rig and got these results:
195.94:
196.75:Code:Crysis Warhead Benchmark
v1.2.0.0
The benchmark started at 3/3/2010 8:45:28 PM
System Information
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP
System memory: 2047 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
CPU speed: 2790 MHz
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 - 512 MB
Benchmark information
Demo: Airfield
Quality: High
Renderer mode: DirectX 9
Antialising mode: Off
Filtering mode: None
MultiGPU support: Enabled
Boost renderer: Disabled
Use Custom Config File: No
Random .exe: Disabled
Resolution: 1600×1200
Result(1): Minimum= 3 FPS Average= 11 FPS Max= 20 FPS
Copyright 2002 - 2009 Zoltan Nemeth - Roadside
With these results I can come to one of two conclusions:Code:Crysis Warhead Benchmark
v1.2.0.0
The benchmark started at 3/3/2010 9:06:08 PM
System Information
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP
System memory: 2047 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
CPU speed: 2790 MHz
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 - 512 MB
Benchmark information
Demo: Airfield
Quality: High
Renderer mode: DirectX 9
Antialising mode: Off
Filtering mode: None
MultiGPU support: Enabled
Boost renderer: Disabled
Use Custom Config File: No
Random .exe: Disabled
Resolution: 1600×1200
Result(1): Minimum= 3 FPS Average= 11 FPS Max= 21 FPS
Copyright 2002 - 2009 Zoltan Nemeth - Roadside
A) The new drivers do little to help the performance of these old cards
or
B) My cards are CPU limited anyways so better drivers wont do much good.
Im leaning more towards B), what do y'all think?
wait people still run cpu's below 3ghz ? ??Quote:
Originally Posted by {GOD}Raptor22
And 7950 GX2s? I think I can remember what those used to look like...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jokester_wild
I run my i7 920 at stock :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jokester_wild
to bad its not a 30% increase in folding, MW, and Collatz :) i dont know about yall, but if it cant crunch 30% more, where are they getting the speed from ????Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
extracting it from a small brown hole? :D
Yes, but this is my backup rig. My Q6600/9800GT PC is down, I will test these drivers on it when I fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jokester_wild
Its my backup rig and it is actually suprisingly close on DX9 performance to my 9800GT (which also isnt very good) but it was $40 for the GX2. It runs GRID at 1600x1200 with 8x AA maxed out at 60 FPS. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Amorphous
See the PC I built for my dad has its 920 running stock...Quote:
Originally Posted by randomizer
These drivers are slightly faster in a few current games I tried on my 285. But they break several old games I regularly play.
*sigh*
/rolling back to an older set
Oh and I wanted to ask, why do people hate on people running older hardware? Its not even bad older hardware, its not that much slower than what people are running today. I mean a basic dual core (the first dual core to market actually) and two 7950 GTXs can run pretty much anything decently, it might not be the fastest thing ever but it it is certainly capable. I mean these cards are only about 8-10% slower than a 8800GTX which isnt that slow compared to todays cards. I mean a GTX 280 is only about 25% faster. Its not like it used to be where the 6800Ultra blew away the 5950, the 7800GTX blew away the 6800 Ultra, and the 8800GTX blew away the 7950 GTX...Quote:
Originally Posted by {GOD}Raptor22
Its getting to the point where there isnt even enough new games to truely tax the new hardware. Crysis on max 1920x1080 runs beautifully on my i7 920/GTX285 SLi rig. I run Crysis Warhead on high settings with 2x AA on the PD820/GX2 computer, and GRID and all Steam games on full. It is not incompetent as a gaming machine. I dont see why everyone has to ridicule someone because their pockets aren't as deep as everyone else. I have an e6300 that's waiting to go into this PC when I get a motherboard that will support it. And FYI this was posted from my PD820 / 7950GX2 PC.
Also FYI I used to post from an Athlon Thunderbird 800 when my main PC was down, this is an improvement. I also keep a fully functioning Celeron 1200 rig (the first PC I built), and a K6-2 450MHz rig (for Flight Sim 95 and Civ2)...
I just dont see the reason for the hate. :shakes:
You benchmark with a 7950GX2 with a Pentium D, thats like Fail added with an extra helping of Fail. No nvidia doesnt care about lousy crap like that, if you wanted to see if they care about -vintage- 2006 stuff, try an 8800GTX on a Windsor X2 6000+, or a 2.6ghz core 2 duo.Quote:
Originally Posted by {GOD}Raptor22
Why all the flaming? I'm sure there are more people with older hardware interested in this. If people are going to post benches, it will give us a better view of what these drivers really improve. Do they optimize games, or do they optimize for a single architecture? Posting benches will show that. Flaming, however, will not. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dainas
Lets try and be a little more tactfull in our responses shall we?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dainas
Thanks for reading.
Dave the benevolent mod...until pushed..;)
*shrug* I run an 8600GTS in my daily rig. If I can game at 1920x1200 with medium-low settings I'm typically happy. However I have become what I'd consider a casual gamer, I'll play a round or two of a game and then go back to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by {GOD}Raptor22
your right sorry, :yepp: Pentium D and G70-GX2 are funny alone, but together I start to take offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Its my backup rig, and it plays the games that I play when my main PC is down, as it is now. There is nothing wrong with either of those components. Yes they are outdated and yes they were kinda gimmicky but so what. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dainas
Oh and its a G71-GX2. ;)
who cares what people run, its just all clocks and heat, if someone wants to run older hardware its their prerogative. some of us here dont have money for upgrades all the time, and you can bench what you wanna bench, as I said, just all clocks and heat.
Yup. I run this 7950 GX2 at 600/1400 when stock clocks are 500/1200. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Decami
no idea if this issue effects non blizzard games. but if true i assume that it would http://forums.battle.net/thread.html...78481&sid=5000
Overheat 30% faster with 30% less fan speed today!
hmmm fps improvement in l4d is indeed a bit odd and sounds like a pr move... i wish theyd spend their driver resources on improving fps in games that need them, OR, improve performance of high AA levels so we can get the same fps but with one step up in aa...
and 7950gx2... that was a pretty nice card back then, and offered very nice price perf during G80 days when its price dropped a lot... im surprised to see an nvidia focus member and nvidia forum admin bash somebody for using that card :stick:
196.75 - Now comes with GPU killing temperatures!
Yeha, great Driver! A dead GPU is always a blast! Thanks Nvidia for testing you drivers before you hand them out to everyone....
The driver was taken down from Nvidia's official site, be careful.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/n...-graphics-car/
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Decami
GPU killing drivers? I always feel bad for the fanboys when I see stuff like that. :(
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=246596Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ