Phenom2 X2 550 & 555 C3 Stepping - unlocking cores with Biostar and 6665MHz

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10-06-2009, 05:22 AM
PcCI2iminal

Phenom2 X2 550 & 555 C3 Stepping - unlocking cores with Biostar and 6665MHz

The prestigious Biostar T series in combination with new Phenom II CPUs AMD = pure action :D

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2871/006copy.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2066/004copy.jpg

Phenom2 X2 555 @ 4 cores 4100Mhz at 1.29v (Phenom2 940 cooler box)
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/371/cpu3600.jpg

Phenom2 X2 550 C3 stepping @ 4 cores 4300MHz at 1.39v (Phenom2 940 cooler box)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...cores4300m.jpg

LN2
Phenom2 X2 555 @ 4 cores at 6665MHz
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6890/fotoln2.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1253/6665mhz.jpg

There's still a lot more to come from Mojo Family :D
10-06-2009, 05:44 AM
knopflerbruce

:shocked: AWESOME scores! I wonder what some handpicked 965 BE goodness can do:yepp: I bet you have a few of those as well:p:
10-06-2009, 05:48 AM
ridney

wow! awesme c3 action! keep it going criminal! very nice voltage on the c3 phenoms :D can you give us some temps if possible???
10-06-2009, 06:17 AM
Smartidiot89

Oh my good nice there! What can you do as far as suicideshots/benchmarking goes on air? Also try out the IMC i've heard it's better than before :D
10-06-2009, 06:25 AM
subaruwrc

now lets see some 6.5ghz 3d action with HD 5870:D
10-06-2009, 06:29 AM
FlanK3r

whau, great and thx...its really better for AIR OC? +100 MHz average ?(think stable)
10-06-2009, 07:06 AM
TheGreenFoX

7ghz Ln2 with Phenom II X4 975?

Thanks PcCI2iminal
10-06-2009, 07:17 AM
hey

that is great! unlock to 4cores and get 6665mhz:up:
10-06-2009, 07:22 AM
LowRun

Thanks to the Mojo family for providing the good stuff as usual :clap:

Looking forward for more infos regarding the C3 rev :up:
10-06-2009, 07:34 AM
PcCI2iminal

many thanks guys

Quote:

Originally Posted by knopflerbruce

:shocked: AWESOME scores! I wonder what some handpicked 965 BE goodness can do:yepp: I bet you have a few of those as well:p:

hehehe i have one 965 but its not a handpicked ,just good for some bench at6Ghz +

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridney

wow! awesme c3 action! keep it going criminal! very nice voltage on the c3 phenoms :D can you give us some temps if possible???

i will post soon :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Oh my good nice there! What can you do as far as suicideshots/benchmarking goes on air? Also try out the IMC i've heard it's better than before :D

i think 4400Mhz will be easy :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by subaruwrc

now lets see some 6.5ghz 3d action with HD 5870:D

why not hehehehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

whau, great and thx...its really better for AIR OC? +100 MHz average ?(think stable)

well ,they need less vcore than my best C2 Phenom

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreenFoX

7ghz Ln2 with Phenom II X4 975?

Thanks PcCI2iminal

hmm.. LN2 maybe
they have lots of potential
10-06-2009, 07:45 AM
PcCI2iminal

not that bad for a non optimized run :D
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6925/wprimecopy.jpg
10-06-2009, 07:46 AM
massman

What about 1GHz memory?
10-06-2009, 07:47 AM
Oliverda

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/371/cpu3600.jpg

Is it Prime stable?
10-06-2009, 07:49 AM
FatAlbert

fastest info about new amd cpu and biostar motherboards from P2C :D

can you how high they can go for 3d?

or maybe different qs, when they will be able to buy ? :D
10-06-2009, 07:54 AM
dinos22

oh wow what a great overclock!!! :up:
10-06-2009, 08:07 AM
EnJoY

Start clocking nb Junior! :D
10-06-2009, 08:07 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

What about 1GHz memory?

i will give a try soon :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/371/cpu3600.jpg

Is it Prime stable?

not with that crappy cooler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatalbert

fastest info about new amd cpu and biostar motherboards from P2C :D

and i was using an old bios revision and it is not optimized for C3 stepping,but i got a fresh rom today ,with suport for C3 chips :D

Quote:

can you how high they can go for 3d?

just for a start
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7717/3d0382697ok.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2...627k6ghzok.jpg

Quote:

or maybe different qs, when they will be able to buy ? :D

i dunno :(
10-06-2009, 08:10 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

i will give a try soon :D

not with that crappy cooler

So let's give it a try with that TRUE Black. We want some stable results with air.:up:
10-06-2009, 08:20 AM
FlanK3r

whau nice...
10-06-2009, 08:23 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

oh wow what a great overclock!!! :up:

thx Dino :D
tomorrow i will try to push a bit more :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Start clocking nb Junior! :D

here Alex ;)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7011/285e.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

So let's give it a try with that TRUE Black. We want some stable results with air.:up:

:up:
10-06-2009, 08:25 AM
Pt1t

Very nice Frequency and core OC junior & Yoko :D
10-06-2009, 08:35 AM
hiwa

Crazy nice bench session Xtreme Family
Congrats bro :up:
10-06-2009, 08:41 AM
Dahaka

OMFG!!.

That is really asome, less vcore and more mhz :inlove.

A few moments ago i sell my 550 BE, next stop 550 C3 revision :D:D:D
10-06-2009, 09:10 AM
dejanbinladen

OMFG :shocked: ths phenom 2 chips are crazy for that little money you get a real monster, incredible...
10-06-2009, 09:24 AM
Stefan Payne

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

not with that crappy cooler

one of thoese??
10-06-2009, 09:32 AM
jesperme

Very very nice results:up:
10-06-2009, 09:33 AM
donitsi

When can we buy these babies :cool:
10-06-2009, 09:55 AM
Guglio

Awesome
10-06-2009, 10:13 AM
clear cmos

OMFG :eek:

insane...
10-06-2009, 10:21 AM
EnJoY

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

here Alex ;)

Yeaaa that's the stuff. Nearly 2900MHz NB on stock air. :up:
10-06-2009, 11:02 AM
knopflerbruce

I bought a $75 550 BE only a few hours before this thread was made, now I wish I didn't:D
10-06-2009, 11:18 AM
subaruwrc

2K5 please :bows:
10-06-2009, 12:59 PM
ubuntu83

Great work;) yeah more benches FTW.
10-06-2009, 01:03 PM
SF3D

Haha..nice price / performance ratio :)

Good benching. Now some 3D for us!
10-06-2009, 01:25 PM
NeoForce

Wow!
Nice chips =)
10-06-2009, 01:34 PM
Harshal

Good benching and 6665 MHz is totally insane on that chip... :D:D
Thanks for sharing, bro. :up:
10-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Lightman

This is it! My next CPU upgrade!

Thanks for all the crazy tests you've done PcCI2iminal!
That 6665MHz 4 cores OC is shocking!
:shocked:
10-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Tom128

Holy C3 stepping batman. Hopefully this is a sign the magic 4Ghz barrier is no longer a wall so much as a hill.
10-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Solid Snake

awesome

X2 = X4 jjojojojo

:clap:
10-07-2009, 12:49 AM
saaya

so c3 needs lower vcore but clocks about the same?
too bad... itll help amd push for 125W 965 and possibly 975 chips i guess... too bad it didnt result in higher clocks...
10-07-2009, 01:09 AM
youngpro

wow this looks strong c3 looks good so far, nice results :)
10-07-2009, 01:24 AM
Smartidiot89

So can anyone confirm release of these babies?
10-07-2009, 03:20 AM
Bullet92

Insane chip there.. Thanks for sharing this :up:

Maybe SF3D is preparing c3 under LHe? :D
10-07-2009, 03:34 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

so c3 needs lower vcore but clocks about the same?
too bad... itll help amd push for 125W 965 and possibly 975 chips i guess... too bad it didnt result in higher clocks...

saaya.......you show me one c2 x2 550 that clocks the same at any vcore ;)
10-07-2009, 06:52 AM
PcCI2iminal

many thanks guys ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Payne

one of thoese??

yes :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

so c3 needs lower vcore but clocks about the same?
too bad... itll help amd push for 125W 965 and possibly 975 chips i guess... too bad it didnt result in higher clocks...

Sasha, C3 are great clockers , better than any other C2 that I have tried
10-07-2009, 06:59 AM
TheGreenFoX

Anyone else hoping for a TWKR C3 version?
10-07-2009, 07:04 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreenFoX

Anyone else hoping for a TWKR C3 version?

from my source -> the next Phenom2 X4 3.6GHz will be called TWKR C3 ;)
10-07-2009, 08:12 AM
FlanK3r

finnaly 4 GHz stable chip :)
10-07-2009, 09:02 AM
HamidFULL

Woot!! totally crazy! 2 x :up:
10-07-2009, 09:33 AM
Manicdan

so a C3 goes from 2x 3000Mhz to over 4x 6500mhz

THATS OVER 430% INCREASE

take that i7
10-07-2009, 09:38 AM
bondhahnmrt85

OMG :shocked::shocked:
Very insane.....

Nice rev C3 chip, want to take that... :D

Congratz PcCI2iminal & Yoko JP :up: :up:
10-07-2009, 09:56 AM
DedEmbryonicCe1

If PcCI2iminal's chip is synonymous of the coming C3 retail products, they won't need a higher maximum overclock to shine. The improvements he has shown will give the typical overclocker better results because C3's will require less voltage and consequently less cooling to achieve a good stable 4GHz+ system. Think of it as the voltage/temperature curve being pushed further towards the cliff at the end. The cliff of maximum benching clock under LN2 and LHe may be the same, but there's more headroom back in the smooth part of the slope where most users will operate: above average air cooling and intermediate water cooling.
10-07-2009, 09:59 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by DedEmbryonicCe1

If PcCI2iminal's chip is synonymous of the coming C3 retail products, they won't need a higher maximum overclock to shine. The improvements he has shown will give the typical overclocker better results because C3's will require less voltage and consequently less cooling to achieve a good stable 4GHz+ system. Think of it as the voltage/temperature curve being pushed further towards the cliff at the end. The cliff of maximum benching clock under LN2 and LHe may be the same, but there's more headroom back in the smooth part of the slope where most users will operate: above average air cooling and intermediate water cooling.

translation:

performance per watt is better on C3 by a noticeable margin. (good news to people who pay their own electric bill and like power friendly parts)
10-07-2009, 10:33 AM
Moso

Nice C3 chip, max clock for my 550 C2 on TRUE BLACK with 4 core = 4410 mhz, superpi 1m @ 4231mhz/NB 3003Mhz :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=235898
10-07-2009, 11:33 PM
TheGreenFoX

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

from my source -> the next Phenom2 X4 3.6GHz will be called TWKR C3 ;)

No highleakge C3 chip to play with for overclockers?
:confused:
10-08-2009, 12:59 AM
ridney

criminal, can you give us some air results and temps for your c3 chips and post it on the amd section please??? hehe
10-08-2009, 01:06 AM
Stefan Payne

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

yes :D

Well they're not soo crappy.
At least that one with 'top mounted fan' is able to compete with a Scythe Big Shuriken - a little bit better.

If you'll use your solder iron and bypass the temperature dependend resistor it'll perform even better but will be very noisy ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

Sasha, C3 are great clockers , better than any other C2 that I have tried

That's good to hear.
too bad I just bought a 955...
10-08-2009, 04:52 AM
JoNo216

keep up the great work!
10-08-2009, 08:01 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moso

Nice C3 chip, max clock for my 550 C2 on TRUE BLACK with 4 core = 4410 mhz, superpi 1m @ 4231mhz/NB 3003Mhz :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=235898

very nice m8
Ive tried a bit on air and 4cores at 4600Mhz is possible :D
True plus 120MM @ 102CFM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreenFoX

No highleakge C3 chip to play with for overclockers?
:confused:

TWKR II maybe hehehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Payne

Well they're not soo crappy.
At least that one with 'top mounted fan' is able to compete with a Scythe Big Shuriken - a little bit better.

If you'll use your solder iron and bypass the temperature dependend resistor it'll perform even better but will be very noisy ;)

That's good to hear.
too bad I just bought a 955...

I was able to get up to 4.3GHz , but couldn't get it 100% stable at 3.8GHz on stock air :(
10-08-2009, 08:06 AM
PcCI2iminal

For whatever reason, almost no unlocked processors will boot at HT link speeds higher then 1.6Gig on Biostar
but new bios brings some changes :D
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1804/cinebenchy.jpg

the HT link issue is fixed :D
10-08-2009, 08:57 AM
EnJoY

Nice stuff junior, keep it up. :up:

Finally biostar fixes that HT speed issue on unlocked chips. Nice to know they have the enthusiast in mind as a priority.
10-08-2009, 09:14 AM
FlanK3r

whau good, what show it awith 1.5V? Is 4100MHz+ Cinebench possible? With 1.42V its great!
10-08-2009, 01:34 PM
YuDi IzzY

OMG! only on air can hit 4,5Ghz, how about if the procesor feat with TRUE black ck..ck..ck... awsome !!
10-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Utroz

Great results!! The 965BE C3 125watt should have better results considering it is binned for all 4 cores at 3.4ghz.
10-09-2009, 02:10 AM
clear cmos

Quote:

For whatever reason, almost no unlocked processors will boot at HT link speeds higher then 1.6Gig on Biostar
but new bios brings some changes

please upload the new bios that fixed 1.6Gig ht-link :)
10-09-2009, 02:19 AM
Chhanga

Quote:

Originally Posted by clear cmos

please upload the new bios that fixed 1.6Gig ht-link :)

+1 looking forward to it
10-09-2009, 02:25 AM
YuDi IzzY

i'm waiting this one available to my country :D
10-09-2009, 06:36 AM
ZoLKoRn

Huh... that sick Chip ! nice work Mojo-Family :up:
10-10-2009, 08:55 AM
zowix

Gief the release date for the C3.
Gotta have one with it :O
10-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Smartidiot89

I Demand Moar Results!

EDIT: XS editted my caps lock:ROTF:
10-10-2009, 05:05 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Nice stuff junior, keep it up. :up:

Finally biostar fixes that HT speed issue on unlocked chips. Nice to know they have the enthusiast in mind as a priority.

:D
its much better now Alex ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

whau good, what show it awith 1.5V? Is 4100MHz+ Cinebench possible? With 1.42V its great!

no m8 :(
i tried a bit more vcore but no go :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by clear cmos

please upload the new bios that fixed 1.6Gig ht-link :)

i just need to test a bit more before make public ,just wait a little more ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn

Huh... that sick Chip ! nice work Mojo-Family :up:

thx Zolk
10-10-2009, 05:39 PM
PcCI2iminal

Phenom 2 X2 555 #2 plus 2lts of ln2

first sub 11's with DDR2
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/527/16129612.jpg

6525MHz 2cores(Win XP SP3)
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4561/6525mhz.jpg

6579MHz 2cores(Win7 Ultimate 64)
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/982/6579mhz.jpg

guys ,boot at 6400MHz is possible ;) and i went into windowns at 6200MHz
and sorry ,no screenie for any 3d as we were running out of ln2
10-10-2009, 05:47 PM
EnJoY

Nearly 6.6GHz on a 64bit OS? Wow...C3 is for real! :eek:
10-10-2009, 09:38 PM
Daveburt714

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Nearly 6.6GHz on a 64bit OS? Wow...C3 is for real! :eek:

Daym.... I really want one of these! Seems like they are getting really close. ;)

Where you at 64NOMIS (Simon)....
I'm really hoping this was our prize for helping you with the OC trials. :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=91

Send me one, and I'll make your Proud with my Ghetto WC OC results... :D
10-10-2009, 10:51 PM
ridney

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

Daym.... I really want one of these! Seems like they are getting really close. ;)

Where you at 64NOMIS (Simon)....
I'm really hoping this was our prize for helping you with the OC trials. :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=91

Send me one, and I'll make your Proud with my Ghetto WC OC results... :D

oh you didn't get yours? :ROTF:

just kidding man
10-10-2009, 11:24 PM
Daveburt714

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridney

oh you didn't get yours?

Shup ridney, If you had yours you'd be spillin the beans! :D

You guys from Singapore are full of it anyway! You know whats really wierd?
One of the guys I work with was asking about the location of Singapore the other day... I said it was in Thailand (probably not right!), but in reality, I have no clue where you live... :p:

Way OT for this thread! Sorry folks, I've had a few beers!

It still doesn't make me want a C3 any less though... :p:

And wherever Singapore is, Ridney is a cool inhabitant... Hic... :up:
10-11-2009, 12:39 AM
Tomasis

pcicriminal, great OC!!!

I managed to kill 720be yesterday with nbvid feeding :P now i have very good reason to purchase a 555.
10-11-2009, 10:39 AM
FlanK3r

cool, i want Cinebench at 4100 MHz with AIR :), or better 4200 MHz :)
10-13-2009, 12:01 PM
knopflerbruce

What's the difference between 550 C3 and 555?:)
10-13-2009, 10:35 PM
FlanK3r

think,lower stock voltage and real TDP, better for OC with stock voltage
10-13-2009, 10:48 PM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by knopflerbruce

What's the difference between 550 C3 and 555?:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

think,lower stock voltage and real TDP, better for OC with stock voltage

To give you a real answear to that:

Once C3 is out Phenom II x2 550BE(C2) will be phased out and exchanged with the new Phenom II x2 550(C3) without a unlocked multiplier.

Instead we get the new Phenom II x2 555BE(C3) which is a Black Edition with unlocked multiplier.
10-14-2009, 02:49 AM
knopflerbruce

...and has 100mhz more speed at stock:p:

@PCCriminal: Have you tried to compare C2 and C3 in terms off efficiency in like pi etc?:)
10-19-2009, 04:58 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by knopflerbruce

...and has 100mhz more speed at stock:p:

@PCCriminal: Have you tried to compare C2 and C3 in terms off efficiency in like pi etc?:)

not yet my friend,but no gains or losses i think
10-23-2009, 09:19 PM
Harshal

I can confirm 6.2GHz windows 7 boots ;)
10-25-2009, 11:51 AM
FlanK3r

whau, good news, its fixed :)
10-25-2009, 01:58 PM
Hampti

Nice result. How many did you tested for this 6,6gig CPU?
10-25-2009, 02:36 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harshal

I can confirm 6.2GHz windows 7 boots ;)

965 C3 right?

congrats M8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hampti

Nice result. How many did you tested for this 6,6gig CPU?

i got 6.6GHz after 20 minutes of testing
10-26-2009, 08:41 AM
Hampti

Nice. And how many CPU's flowed to your hands.
10-26-2009, 09:05 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hampti

Nice. And how many CPU's flowed to your hands.

2 x 550
2 x 555
;)
10-26-2009, 09:44 AM
kiwik

Any ETA on retail availability? I really could use an upgrade, the 260 doesn't like having to wait after the 5000.
10-26-2009, 03:57 PM
raisethe3

When are these chip expected to come out? Because I am thinking of getting the current 550BE on newegg. But if it isn't too far away, I will wait and hop on to this chip when it comes out. I've been itching to get a new CPU to replace the crappy chip I have now in my sig.
10-26-2009, 05:27 PM
kiwik

Haha, same boat as me.
10-26-2009, 05:52 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by raisethe3

When are these chip expected to come out? Because I am thinking of getting the current 550BE on newegg. But if it isn't too far away, I will wait and hop on to this chip when it comes out. I've been itching to get a new CPU to replace the crappy chip I have now in my sig.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwik

Haha, same boat as me.

I'm on the same boat! My 5600+ still lags behind even at 3.4 Ghz...:(
10-26-2009, 10:21 PM
raisethe3

I am thinking of heading for the 555BE route since its only 100 more. At 3.2Ghz with the same TDP, it might be capable of hitting 4 Ghz easily!
10-26-2009, 10:27 PM
Slappa

This chip is looking awesome for air/water users.

Not to mention 6.5-6.6GHz on LN2 for a dual core Phenom II is nothing to laugh at.

I cannot wait to get my hands on one.

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