Anyone seen this XSPC Typhoon like 5.25 res?

Just noticed this and havent seen any posts on it in this section even though I scout it like a hawk. Seem VERY interesting as it supports 2 DDC pumps.

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Support one or two DDC pumps
- G1/4" Thread
- Dimensions: 149 x 104 x 85.5mm
- Removeable faceplate
- High Quality Acrylic
- Brass screw threads
- 3x 5mm LED holes
- Individually pressure tested

Supplied with screws, blanking plugs and blue LED.

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http://www.xspc.biz/photo/ddcdualbayres/1.jpg
http://www.xspc.biz/photo/ddcdualbayres/2.jpg

http://www.xspc.biz/ddcdualbayres.php

Just so everyone knows, it comes with a plug to plug off one pump if you're only using one pump.

This should be sweet for dual loops/dual pumps!

looks pretty damn fancy there.......

That is pretty damn sweet. I like this very much and also love the fact the face plate is removable for customization. Simply awesome! :clap:

Hmm... I kinda like that.

That is one EPIC resevoir-pump top combo. wonder what the numbers will show as to how it performs...

Man - I have waited almost a YEAR for the freaking Typhoon III res with D5 attachment. I will buy this ASAP if they can beat PrimoChill to the market.
/start rant
I've just about all but given up on the Typhoon after freaking trying to pre-order 2 of them that know one will commit to, and being told shipping in 2 weeks, ask again 2 weeks, ask again oh ok now it's really 2 weeks, ask again - wait wait packing is happening they'll go out in 2 weeks. And consumers dont want to hear " oh a select few has them in hand now " (That's crap = escpecially after trying to pay premium for a flipping pre-order just to be denied because their shipping in...... you guessed it, 2 weeks.)
Now that that's off my chest.
/end rant

I couldn't be happier with XSPC rushing and beating them to the market. And as far as XSPC QC (quality) goes...... I've never had a problem returning and replacing anything with them. Just buy from a reputable vendor.

Thanks for the POST - and sorry for the rant..... just wanted the FREAKING TYPHOON for so long that it F'ing pisses me off... (insert bannanaas there) sigh........................

I wonder if they will make a version where the two halves are separated, so you could run different coolant through each loop.

These use the MCP355s? I can't tell from the pics.

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Originally Posted by soulesschild

These use the MCP355s? I can't tell from the pics.

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Yep. :up:

Looks sweet and a little bit of rubber damping on the side mounts too. The removable face plate is a nice touch.

I bet it will be every bit of the same performance as their res tops.... the more I look at it - it looks to have the same "style" of feed (tube) with about .50" or little less from the inlet gap and all. So no unobstructed inlet and easy bleeding.
I aggree with urgrandpasdog

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I wonder if they will make a version where the two halves are separated, so you could run different coolant through each loop.

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If they throw a divider in there for 2 loops! How awesome that would be! But just being able to have the redundancy of 2 pumps is great too!

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Originally Posted by XS_RoB

Man - I have waited almost a YEAR for the freaking Typhoon III res with D5 attachment. I will buy this ASAP if they can beat PrimoChill to the market.
/start rant
I've just about all but given up on the Typhoon after freaking trying to pre-order 2 of them that know one will commit to, and being told shipping in 2 weeks, ask again 2 weeks, ask again oh ok now it's really 2 weeks, ask again - wait wait packing is happening they'll go out in 2 weeks. And consumers dont want to hear " oh a select few has them in hand now " (That's crap = escpecially after trying to pay premium for a flipping pre-order just to be denied because their shipping in...... you guessed it, 2 weeks.)
Now that that's off my chest.
/end rant

I couldn't be happier with XSPC rushing and beating them to the market. And as far as XSPC QC (quality) goes...... I've never had a problem returning and replacing anything with them. Just buy from a reputable vendor.

Thanks for the POST - and sorry for the rant..... just wanted the FREAKING TYPHOON for so long that it F'ing pisses me off... (insert bannanaas there) sigh........................

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You must be half Klingon with all that emotion. Don't your panties in too much of a twist: Geno mounted mine to a custom size panel for one of my rigs and has not shipped it to me yet. I think only Bod actually has some in hand.

Got some other news to tick you off: Duke Nukem Forever will not be out next week. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by XS_RoB

I bet it will be every bit of the same performance as their res tops.... the more I look at it - it looks to have the same "style" of feed (tube) with about .50" or little less from the inlet gap and all. So no unobstructed inlet and easy bleeding.
I aggree with urgrandpasdog

If they throw a divider in there for 2 loops! How awesome that would be! But just being able to have the redundancy of 2 pumps is great too!

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This redundancy would only work if the pumps were in parallell - ie. using a Y line. Why anybody would do parallell for redundancy (or at all) is sort of a misnomer today.

This looks more specifically for dual loop setups. I wonder if the water equalises in temperature more as a single loop with two rads because the water is essentially "shared".

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Got some other news to tick you off: Duke Nukem Forever will not be out next week.

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New I could count on you to comment since your in the guy's pockets :rolleyes:....... and no not Klingon but Kingon "ALL YOUR BK GLASS R BELONG TO US" :rofl:

I needed a good laugh... and I guess you just saw the New Star Trek, I will hit Terminator this weekend before I see Star Trek.... see if I can compare your builds to a T-600. :ROTF:

I love Geno and his work - I just have no respect or lack there of for Moddersmart.

I love it! If I ever go back to a tower case, I will be getting one of these!

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Originally Posted by CedricFP

This looks more specifically for dual loop setups. I wonder if the water equalises in temperature more as a single loop with two rads because the water is essentially "shared".

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Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

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You can run them in parallel! Or series, if you want. This top would make the difference between parallel and series really easy to test. Be really interesting to see.

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Originally Posted by DeathWalking

You can run them in parallel! Or series, if you want. This top would make the difference between parallel and series really easy to test. Be really interesting to see.

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how do you easily put them in series?

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

You must be half Klingon with all that emotion. Don't your panties in too much of a twist: Geno mounted mine to a custom size panel for one of my rigs and has not shipped it to me yet. I think only Bod actually has some in hand.

Got some other news to tick you off: Duke Nukem Forever will not be out next week. :rofl:

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Had them for weeks, just has to wait for the go ahead from XSPC to release them... I heard Duke Nukem will be released as shareware.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Helfarch

how do you easily put them in series?

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Yes, please explain how to do series easily.

omg this would make it so much easier for me to do dual loops, i already have both blocks, both radiators, and this reservoir for 2 x mcp355's. won't need any tops. for the DDC pumps which saves me about $20, and no need for another reservoir, which saves me another $20. great!

where can i buy? and how much???

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Yes, please explain how to do series easily.

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A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other :stick:

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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS

omg this would make it so much easier for me to do dual loops, i already have both blocks, both radiators, and this reservoir for 2 x mcp355's. won't need any tops. for the DDC pumps which saves me about $20, and no need for another reservoir, which saves me another $20. great!

where can i buy? and how much???

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http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Dual-DD...r-pr-4457.html

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Originally Posted by Vapor

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other :stick:

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Precisely my thoughts. Serial with this is pointless. Parallel or dual loops sharing the same res are the best(?) options.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other :stick:

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can you please take a look at my picture of my loop in my signature? do you think that i'd be better off running dual loops or dual mcp355's in a series if i were to get a 2nd MCP355?

if all the water were to be mixed from the dual loops in the reservoir, wouldn't temps reach equilibrium eventually?

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Originally Posted by XS_RoB

New I could count on you to comment since your in the guy's pockets :rolleyes:.......

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I consider Geno and I to be friends. No pockets involved. Beyond that, my relationship to this particular product line is . . . .complicated. Let's just just say if I did not absolutely have total respect for Geno and his designs I would not be behind this.

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

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If you had a divider the temperature of the two loops would not equalize (As long as both loops are running). They are not in equilibrium, they would be at steady state. If the divider was acrylic (k=0 .2 W/m*K) you would have a heat transfer rate on the order of 1 watt per degree Kelvin ( I assumed 2 mm thickness and an area 200mm X 50mm). So if the temperature difference between the two reservoirs was 10 degrees you would only be transferring only 10 watts. You most likely would not even notice this difference because the loop residence time is so small.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other :stick:

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maybe actually look at the res.

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../facepalm4.jpg

both inlets are inside the res, it's effectively a double pump top.

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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

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Well, actually you could, if you didn't mind losing a bit (most?) of the pressure you would normally gain from dual pumps by it being dumped back into the res. I'm sure there would be "some" boost, just not sure it would really be worth the trouble and expense. That's the "pointless" part of my last post.;)

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Well, actually you could, if you didn't mind losing a bit (most?) of the pressure you would normally gain from dual pumps by it being dumped back into the res. I'm sure there would be "some" boost, just not sure it would really be worth the trouble and expense. That's the "pointless" part of my last post.;)

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Cant you just take some Y-Split and then feed both inlets from one Y plug and gather the water from both outlets from another Y plug?

I am just wondering if I got this with a laing ddc 10w (3.1, MCW350) would that be about the same noise as a MCW655-B (Setting 4)

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

Cant you just take some Y-Split and then feed both inlets from one Y plug and gather the water from both outlets from another Y plug?

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That's a parallel setup.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

That's a parallel setup.

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Ahh right, but how would you rate the DDC3.1 vs D5 @ setting 4 ? I cant find any good spots to mount the D5 where it would hidden and not be in the way at some point in my V2110B.

The rad will be in the bottem compartment, and I was thinking Res -> pump -> rad -> cpu -> gpu

dont mind the cables, I havent done any cable management yet, will do when I get my cables sleeved later on.

http://imageload.dk/files/d74bd56e7d...8b887087dc.JPG
http://imageload.dk/files/5239096c5c...36aca253f3.JPG

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

Ahh right, but how would you rate the DDC3.1 vs D5 @ setting 4 ? I cant find any good spots to mount the D5 where it would hidden and not be in the way at some point in my V2110B.

The rad will be in the bottem compartment, and I was thinking Res -> pump -> rad -> cpu -> gpu

dont mind the cables, I havent done any cable management yet, will do when I get my cables sleeved later on.

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Well, having never owned a D5, I can't really say. Going by Martin's and Laing's data, with the stock tops...numerically, it looks as though the D5@4 is a better pump.

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

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Well it will not give you max performance for two reasons:

1. As the man says, with a single reservoir the temperature evens out across both loops.

2. Pressure loss: this is just not as efficient as having pumps in series so if the order was res->pump1 -> blocks -> rad1 ->pump2 -> blocks -> rad2 -> res that works much better than having twin pumps running off a system where technically you have dual loops each running res->pump->blocks -> rad ->res. I know I have tried it

But if you are not looking to build an overclocking monster but something that is a it stylish, quiet and easy to maintain this looks good.

I have some concerns about vibration. I would much prefer that the pump mounting point had some anti-vibration material around them (petras gel or just some thick rubber would do).

In a lot of cases having the fill port on top is a pain because you have to slide the res out a little to get access which makes the build a little messy

Overall a nice idea but could be improved

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Originally Posted by Vapor

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other :stick:

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The problem is the inlet for the other pump does not connect directly to the pump volute. The inlet from the reservoir sort of pushes close to the inlet of the pump, but not actually connected. This is more like a waterfall than a direct connect.

If you look at the picture long enough, I think the inlet tube has a gap at the inlet of the pump.

You will not get the pressure benefit of a series setup.

So if they could make a version where the pump to the most left is left as it is now, but at the other pump the inlet is connected directly to the pump therefore making it serial connected.

Anyway as this product seems to be on the market already, I hope we hear some news on how well vibration is handled very soon.

hmmm this looks pretty amazing, would solve the problem as to positioning pumps in my case.....any 1 got pictures of it with pumps in?>?

I like this design, but it seems to be a PITA to fill without drilling a hole on the top of my case. It would also take up 3 drive bays. This is clearly meant for a large case, at least 4 slots if you want an odd and 5+ if you need fan controller(s).

Nice, but I'll pass.

does this come with the prefomance top in it?

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

The problem is the inlet for the other pump does not connect directly to the pump volute. The inlet from the reservoir sort of pushes close to the inlet of the pump, but not actually connected. This is more like a waterfall than a direct connect.

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I agreed with you. I think we will lose pressure into res if we connect the pump directly.

This looks like it would be hell with microbubbles. The inlets are so close to the pumps that the bubbles will just get sucked back in the loop and continue to recirculate without a chance to get out.

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

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Depends, if you have one loop running at its limits you could use it to offload some of the heat to the second loop.

I should have this pretty soon - will try and get some photos of it with pumps (but I have no case to put it in for now)

~Bex

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Originally Posted by RCG_Bex

I should have this pretty soon - will try and get some photos of it with pumps (but I have no case to put it in for now)

~Bex

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If you could post if it has a block/plug so that if you only want to use one pump as well that would be great!

I was thinking though - if it doesn't come with a plug - we could buy a spare Feser DDC O-ring then simply cut a piece of Acrylic, ABS, or similar to plug ourselves. :confused:

I cant wait to see it in action.

They need someone to take better photos of their products.... those pictures are crap... :stick:

product looks like a really top notch idea though. :up:.

one thing I would be concerned with is attaching two pumps running at two slightly different RPMs to the same top (a result of different restrictivity in loops). I know some of you have had wave physics but I think there is some concern about the beats caused by the frequency interactions of the vibrations - certainly they are not good for the durability of the material. It happens to the pumps in my system when the feet touch.

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Originally Posted by naokaji

Depends, if you have one loop running at its limits you could use it to offload some of the heat to the second loop.

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Interesting point, but then why not just make one loop with the pumps in series. Seems the same result. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by XS_RoB

If you could post if it has a block/plug so that if you only want to use one pump as well that would be great!

I was thinking though - if it doesn't come with a plug - we could buy a spare Feser DDC O-ring then simply cut a piece of Acrylic, ABS, or similar to plug ourselves. :confused:

I cant wait to see it in action.

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Supplied with screws, blanking plugs and blue LED.

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Says so on the product page

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Originally Posted by justin150

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I have some concerns about vibration. I would much prefer that the pump mounting point had some anti-vibration material around them (petras gel or just some thick rubber would do).
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It appears to have vibration control built in via the o-rings around the bay mounting holes.

ima keep my opinions to myself because i know skinnee will be getting a sample of it.

So until then, i'll just say i have some mix opinions about this.

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

ima keep my opinions to myself because i know skinnee will be getting a sample of it.

So until then, i'll just say i have some mix opinions about this.

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Well skinnee have so much on his schedule so guess it will take quiet some time before he gets around this one, I hope his CPU testing is soon done, I kinda hope it aligns with what Gabe found, because I would really like the mounting mechanism of the GTZ :)

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

The problem is the inlet for the other pump does not connect directly to the pump volute. The inlet from the reservoir sort of pushes close to the inlet of the pump, but not actually connected. This is more like a waterfall than a direct connect.

If you look at the picture long enough, I think the inlet tube has a gap at the inlet of the pump.

You will not get the pressure benefit of a series setup.

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Because pressure (outside the bounds of the component's native pressure drop vs. flow curve) cannot be lost in an equilibrium system, you'll have one of two things happen.

1) the res will fill to max capacity and they'll behave exactly like serial pumps (water is incompressible). Though this is the case of separated reservoirs.

2) it'll just behave 'right.' The water leaving will have the pressure and flowrate of two pumps in serial since that's how they're arranged. Yes, even with that little gap between pump inlet and the feed-line's outlet, it works just fine. It's practically the same with the 'old' XSPC res tops.

There's a lot less voodoo in watercooling than is assumed :wth:

I have just ordered one, and it's stirght out onto the test bench when it gets here :)

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Says so on the product page
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Saw that but I was thinking it was plugs for G 1/4 fittings only not the DDC's.

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Originally Posted by bentleya

I have just ordered one, and it's stirght out onto the test bench when it gets here :)

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Hope you can give some info on vibration :)

No you can use it with only 1 pump :)

~Bex

It comes with a pump plug like I said in the second post of this thread :)

You can see in the picutres one of the sides has a plug/oring on one of the pump compartments.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

It appears to have vibration control built in via the o-rings around the bay mounting holes.

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Can see that but it is the pump mounts not the bay mounts that worry me. Someone put it better than me - if the pumps run at slightly different RPM the vibration interaction is going to be hell on the acrylic hence need something to cut down vibration at the pump point

Few more pics to clear up some of the questions:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5806.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5795.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5831.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5827.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5839.jpg

The res ships with 2x G1/4 metal blanking plugs for the threads as well as an o-ring and acrylic piece to seal off the 2nd pump mount.

Will get some nicer shots and illuminated shots up tomorrow. :)

I'd really like to see a comparisson between this vs two XSPC res tops.

Geez this thing is so convenient. Takes only 2 drive spaces! What's not to like about that?!? :shrug: I would like to see this tested for sure and if it does (which I am sure it will) then this a nifty product to save space. I wonder what kind of performance this would bring to the table using a 'Y' fitting on the two pumps outlet? The only problem I can see happening is if someone put this right over a CD, DVD or BluRay Drive or anything else where heat can conduct into the bottom of the pumps or something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

I wonder what kind of performance this would bring to the table using a 'Y' fitting on the two pumps outlet?

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My question exactly!

Someone mentioned earlier that it would be less performance than 2 pumps in serial, but I'm not understanding why.

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Originally Posted by justin150

Can see that but it is the pump mounts not the bay mounts that worry me. Someone put it better than me - if the pumps run at slightly different RPM the vibration interaction is going to be hell on the acrylic hence need something to cut down vibration at the pump point

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Not really too worried about that myself as it shouldn't be a problem, transmitting to the case is a different story. ;) If 2 pumps mounted to the same piece of acrylic posed some sort of a problem, we would have heard something about it by now from all the ppl running the Alphacool Hardwareluxx or the Watercool dual tops.

Some interesting points were made which I hadn't thought of.

Thanks for posting all. :)

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Originally Posted by Sly Fox

My question exactly!

Someone mentioned earlier that it would be less performance than 2 pumps in serial, but I'm not understanding why.

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Dang, I wanted to answer this in my other post too. :shakes:

2 pumps feeding into a Y is parallel which increases overall flow but does very little if anything for head pressure. If this parallel setup were used for say, a K350, the results would likely disappoint the owner due to the pressure requirements of that block.

2 pumps in serial increase the head pressure but does very little if anything for flow. Again, if a serial loop were paired with a high flow block like a Sapphire, results would likely disappoint the owner due to the flow requirements of that block.

You have to match the block and flow to get the most out of the loop.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

There's a lot less voodoo in watercooling than is assumed :wth:

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Well what Vapor is saying from what I understand is that if putting outlet 1 on inlet 1 would be not work, then putting 2 laing dcc with top res after each other would not give more head pressure either, which from what he is saying they should do. If it does I have no clue, I suck at physics :)

Has anyone gotten this yet? I am thinking about getting it, but I am worried about the shared reservoir since I am running two loops, one for 2 x GTX280's and the second loop will be my I7 920 overclocked.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Dang, I wanted to answer this in my other post too. :shakes:

2 pumps feeding into a Y is parallel which increases overall flow but does very little if anything for head pressure. If this parallel setup were used for say, a K350, the results would likely disappoint the owner due to the pressure requirements of that block.

2 pumps in serial increase the head pressure but does very little if anything for flow. Again, if a serial loop were paired with a high flow block like a Sapphire, results would likely disappoint the owner due to the flow requirements of that block.

You have to match the block and flow to get the most out of the loop.

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Thanks, that explains it. :D

I don't think series will work with this one.

The first pump will have an inlet and outlet that are equalized in the same area, so there will be little to no resistance and that first pump will simply act in recirculation to itself (recirculating in a mini loop). The second pump will have two isolated areas of pressure, so I think running this in series outlet of Pump #1 to inlet of pump #2 won't work as you're thinking to get "Series" pump benefits. The only way to use two pumps with this is either in parallel with Y splitters (which isn't any good with watercooling with our high restrictions), or use it to feed two separated loops that share the reservoir.

I could be wrong, but that's how I think it will work.

We need to convince Paul to make the top reservoir two separated ones with two fillports. That sort of design should allow series on one loop to work right. It would also allow you to either use two different fluid colors, and/or allow you to run two loops with different water temps.

Otherwise I really like the idea, especially if those vibration dampeners work right.

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

I don't think series will work with this one.

The first pump will have an inlet and outlet that are equalized in the same area, so there will be little to no resistance and that first pump will simply act in recirculation to itself (recirculating in a mini loop). The second pump will have two isolated areas of pressure, so I think running this in series outlet of Pump #1 to inlet of pump #2 won't work as you're thinking to get "Series" pump benefits. The only way to use two pumps with this is either in parallel with Y splitters (which isn't any good with watercooling with our high restrictions), or use it to feed two separated loops that share the reservoir.

I could be wrong, but that's how I think it will work.

We need to convince Paul to make the top reservoir two separated ones with two fillports. That sort of design should allow series on one loop to work right. It would also allow you to either use two different fluid colors, and/or allow you to run two loops with different water temps.

Otherwise I really like the idea, especially if those vibration dampeners work right.

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Well, the description on the XSPC site reads:

"Dual 5.25 acrylic bay reservoir with two integrated Laing DDC tops. Supports one or two Laing DDC pumps for dual loops"

So, I do agree with you, separate "chambers" to feed each pump independently would have a been a nice feature.

Besides, so far all the dual tops I've seen tested performed worse than two separate pumps in series, so, unless XSPC has solved that conundrum, I reckon independent pumps is better.

Couple more pics, I changed the faceplate to a piece of silver brushed alu. to match the front of my PC777 (Snail), also put some 1/2" ID Compression fittings on to show that they fit with no issues.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/IMG_5947.jpg
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Illuminated pics to follow.

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Originally Posted by Utnorris

Has anyone gotten this yet? I am thinking about getting it, but I am worried about the shared reservoir since I am running two loops, one for 2 x GTX280's and the second loop will be my I7 920 overclocked.
Thanks

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I know Bentley have one and that it was bleeding last night, I hope he posts screens and thoughts on it today :)

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Originally Posted by marcus000

to match the front of my PC777 (Snail),

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Haha, that's awesome. I had no idea anyone bought that case.

And no offense meant by that, I think it's kinda cool looking. Just, weird. :rofl:

I have been asked to post up a little insight about how i have been getting on with this pump top. On First impitions of getting it out the box, it's really well built and the rubber oring's on the side to stop vibration look really well thought out.

After tooling around with it for a few day, getting it set up with two DDC -1's (Pro - Blue Impeller) And getting a test loop setup. I set up with two loops, one a cpu, with a Alphacool 360mm Radiator and EK Supreme. With the second loop with a TFC Xchanger 240mm Radiator, EK 8800GT GPU full cover WB, EK Mosfet WB and separate North-bridge - South-bridge block also made by EK. I was'nt planning in doing a full review yet, as a few as of my test bench hardware problems, witch is a different story which I'm not going to bore you with.

I just wanted to see how noisy it is, (Pump Noise and Vibration Noise) and Bleeding time, So i'll start with the bleeding, as the cpu loop is very small, it took only 30 minutes to bleed, with only a few bubbles left, While the longer loop took 3 hours. On watching it bleed, i could see why it was taking it's time. The bubbles was coming straight into the Res, round the curved Acrylic Part, and straight Round the loop again with minimal bubbles being collected in the res. With ones that did going down the cpu loop, Which was a tad bit annoying.

With Time on my side and 3 hours later it was all clear, but from my point of view to make it better i would of divided the whole area off into two separate sections with a fill port on both sides. In doing that the res would bleed quicker and you could run serial pump loop with this product.

Another thing i would say while watching the product is flow, from Main board and GPU loop was getting sucked into the CPU loop putting strain on the Main loop pump and restricting the flow. This is not scientific, and may not be by very much, and only proper tests will show this. With time a decent review will be made.

Now on to the noise, I'll start with vibration noise, With the way my test bench 5.1/2 bay is setup i could only mount with the bottom hole on each side, meaning the top of the res was touching the rack as it leans in as it gets higher. However there was not actual vibration or vibration noise and if so very minimal from what i can see and here, again thats nothing scientific you just how i see it.

Pump Noise, well noisy, two pumps next to each other with a dvd drive below and a res above, makes the sound echo and bounce around making it very loud, and compared against them running out side apart it is much louder. But i can't tell you how much louder it is, as this is just quick view of it. With all the above in mind it's great for a one pump setup with small to medium loop, if space is tight and you only have room for a double res in your drive bays, but if you are about performance like most of us here, i would go for a Cycider res, by Alphacool, koolance or EK along With A EK or XSPC DDC pump top.

But a great job XSPC, Perfect, for the person who just want average setups and dos'nt care to much, but it could do with some tweacking, and when i do my finally review i will put these ideas forward to him :).

PS, pictures to come tonight :)

Thanks for the preview Bentley. I was looking at using this for a dual loop and I think I'll hold off on this. Hopefully XSPC will make a revision or a split version soon. It really boggles my mind that they didn't do this in the first place.

Thanks for posting, think I will skip this then and go with their normal res top instead

Bentley,

How does the new top/res affect your temps?

Here Are the pictuers like i promised :)

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc2.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc3.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc4.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc5.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...aron/Xspc6.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...DCPumpRes1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...DCPumpRes2.jpg

Sorry to bring up a month old thread, but I'm really interested in seeing if anyone had done any before/after comparisons with temps on this res? :confused:

I'm seriously considering getting it, but only if I can expect better temps changing to this res with a dual loop setup compared to my current single loop setup.

HI ! The best way to use this res is :
Res -> pump1 -> blocks -> rad 1 -> res -> pump2 -> blocks -> rad2

It sounds like an alternative series setup. the flow &pressure lost during the 1 loop are boost by the 2nd pump when and where it need.

I agree with hardcore users when they said 2 true separate loops are better to win few degrees. but I like shared res. the integration is easy and you gain benefit with all your available rad when your GPU's are not load.

About vibration, i always use elastics for my hard drive, pumps, and now this res/pumps too = no noise.

I use it with 2x DDC 3.2 18w and it's a crasy powerfull system with good temps (+honorable wc parts of course)
At least i think it s a good product, may be a separate (isolated) chamber revision would be nice but it's not a prb for me.

I Spoke with Paul Last week, but as it's all on the website now, They is some updates.

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New DDC Bay Reservoirs - 07/08/09
After many emails and forum requests we decided to make a split chamber version of our popular Dual Reservoir for Laing DDC pumps. We also made some improvements to the anti-vibration mounts and the reservoirs now ship with two brushed aluminium faceplates. The original model is now discontinued and will be replaced with the split version and a new model for single pump setups. I will upload some more product photos as soon as I get back from i37.
Thanks everyone for your feedback

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With Two Versions Available.

http://www.xs-pc.co.uk/ddcdualbayrestwo.php

http://www.xs-pc.co.uk/ddcdualbayresone.php

I just ordered this but got the one w/o divider. Sidewinder didn't have one with a divider, but I figure if I do it right my temps shouldn't be too different anyway :)

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Originally Posted by Jon K

I just ordered this but got the one w/o divider. Sidewinder didn't have one with a divider, but I figure if I do it right my temps shouldn't be too different anyway :)

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I've got the single res version as well. But I did notice a 3* temp difference between loops, with the CPU loop being that much cooler. Works for me. :)