i have about $300 sitting on the side waiting so Ill be ordering one as soon as Newegg gets them in stock.
Who else is ordering one as soon as they are released?
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i have about $300 sitting on the side waiting so Ill be ordering one as soon as Newegg gets them in stock.
Who else is ordering one as soon as they are released?
I need to know how well the do in vista 64 bit.
I might, depending on the benchesQuote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I hope the rumors are right and that this time it will kick ass.
I have to move from s939 and agp, so i'm not sure if i'll go now, or wait for AM3. Probably go with AM2+ since i'm sure it'll be cheaper over all.
ill have it before the pitch.
I need to know how they perform first. Plain and simple. :)
At this point I'm locked into some kind of AMD platform, so I will have one as soon as its feesbile to get in retail stores.
well, since I have a Phenom fetish as of late.. I know I will.. just to play with it.. If i7 wasn't so dang expensive to build, i'd get one too.. I might anyway.. Nut I have a Asus M3A79-T Deluxe waiting on Phenom II anyhow...
It doesn't matter to me how it performs really. I've no doubt it'll have excellent power numbers, and that'll work for me because it'll definitely be a step up from my current stuff. And Intel can shove their silicon straight where the sun don't shine, so that takes care of that option. :D
Looks like it performs similar to yorkfield.
I will be in line. :) also video ill be looking for 2 more toxic 3870's to give me quadfire.
I'm waiting on my bailout check from Obama, if he doesn't give us one then I'll wait till the taxes come back. But one is defenetly in my future. This will give me some time to check the benchies and maybe for the price to drop a little first. Everything else is ready just need to drop it into the socket.
I'll be getting one if the price point is there. That said, I won't pay over $300 for the chip. In all likelihood, I'll wait until we know how it performs under vista x64 as others have pointed out.
I have a sb700 mobo and will probably be using that to OC the chip.
I'll just hope i can get 4.0 ghz w/ a xigmatek 1283. That would actually put the system ahead of my q6600 @ 3.6 ghz on water.
Im hoping for a nice improved clock for clock performance over current Phenoms and getting 3.6-3.9ghz would be pretty nice for overall improvement over these Agena cores.
I just ordered a 4850x2 today also, upgrading from my current HD2900XT :)
Maybe me but probably not............Got some Macki Powered Speaker Monitors & Presonus FireBox to buy first thats about $700.00:D
Well for me I will get one right away because whether it performs way better than current Phenoms or not, because it would still be an improvement over my dual core Opteron. But if the price gouging is too much the first month, I will just wait 2 or 3 months to get it and save some money.
Guilty. I'll buy one as soon as I see it is available and under $300.
I will be sure to get the chip right when it comes out. I'm in socal, so it will be next day, unless they decide to ship it from East coast :P
And if I still have some LN2 left over, it will go subzero right away :)
Ton
I'll get one if it is at least 10% faster then Ci7 and overclocks to at least 4.5ghz on air while costing around $250. :p:
Since I'm waiting for AM3 it may be a little while longer for me but yeah I plan to get one fairly soon, just wait a week or two for the initial price shock to blow by.
I won't be willing to make a decision till I see am2+, ddr2 with PH II compared to AM3, ddr3 with PH II. I have a feeling that the "REAL" boards will be released as ddr3 variants. Providing how long they have had to play with 790 chipset they should be able to make some really solid boards and had plenty of time to work out the bugs.
If you look at intels lineup of motherboards the DDR 3 variants offered all the bells and whistles compared to the ddr2 variants.
Got serious GPU setup to buy first. Then we'll see.
I will probably be buying one to two of the 940's when they are released and then build a completely new system when AM3 cpu's are released because my testing/benching addiction hasn't gotten any attention since this summer.
usually the best steppings were some of the first few batches released so if there is a lot of users buying and reporting which batches overclock in what way it should be fairly clear which is the gem batch
the other issue will be tolerance to cold
i have my doubts about ALL CPUs being able to handle it easily
if ppl OC certain batches and really do consistently start hitting decent clocks like close to 6GHz on LN2 :D and efficiency is competitive against Intel in 3DMARK01/03/05/06/AM3/Vantage (very important) then yeah for sure
i dont think they will be anywhere near as good for SuperPi...totally expecting them to not compete there
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/...Unveiled-2.jpg
38 more days according to this :)
- Phenom II 940 BE: Approx. U$340
- Phenom II 920: Approx. U$300
well for me its just a cpu upgrade for now, Will an AM2+ cpu run in a AM3 mobo with DDR3? if so that would be my upgrade path.......If not then Ill have to see what improvements there are moving onward from where I am.
^^^ mngdew:
The inital "pre-sale" prices may be that high, but I seriously doubt that the MSRP will end up in that range... I get the feeling AMD will do the same thing they did with the 48xx series of videocards and undercut the competion on price knowing that they will need to compete in the price/performance catagory.
FWIW, Fudzilla (I know, iffy source to say the least!), suggests the MSRP will be as follows:
- Phenom II 940 BE: Approx. U$265
- Phenom II 920: Approx. U$225
Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...0665&Itemid=35Quote:
After posting the story, we came across some additional information from several sources. It seems the site has jacked up the prices by about 10 percent over the MSRP. Coupled with traditionally high prices in Australia, it is likely the retail price in the US will end up about 25 percent lower than the $350/300 list price we reported. We don't have any exact numbers, and as we already said, it's a bit too early to have any at the moment. However, if the new Phenoms really do end up priced at $265 for the 940 model and $225 for the 920, they could become a tempting alternative to Intel's quad-core offer.
If the MSRP prices turn out to be in this range, which I believe they will, I'll definetly be getting one when they're released...
I'm buying a PII 940 as soon as it's available in Aus
I've got a descent watercooling system. I just hope the lack of ACC with my K9A2 Platinum will not prevent me from getting >4GHZ.
i have a feeling i will be getting one as soon as newegg gets them
Ive it on pre-order the day I could at 266 Euro, prolly overpriced ~10 Euro (or more), but at least I did everything possible to get one ASAP:p:
I might be able to wait until RD890+SB800 comes around in 2H09.
Or not. I'm soooo bored with my Q6600.
No, AM2+ CPUs don't work in AM3 sockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
As soon as it's available I'm going to get one. Which depends on the price.
I will wait for the Am3 parts.. Eager to see how they perform with DDR3
Also I want to see how the triplecores will OC :cool:
just to make you all envy :p
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2935/piiyf7.jpg
if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky ;)
Gsus, Nedjo! :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Unless you're willing to wait for it and remain bored:p: I'd suggest not to put all your money on RD890 though. If I remember my time waiting on SB750 boards... It took ages after I set my pre-order:(Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
In that case you'd better get an AM3 chip and set it on a cheap AM2+ board, there's quite a few cheap but quite decent options out there. In that time you can learn the Phenom a bit as well;)
Also when AM3 is out for a while you might see some better motherboards coming out, and if you wait for RD890 to be released also even more chance there's some good quality boards out like Asus ROG and DFI UT boards.
Some cheap options might be ECS's 790GX/SB750 board or their new 780G/SB750 board (I know it's 780G, but it has support upto 160W TDP, so quite good PWM load out there).
Or, like I do, get a Phenom AM2+ and get an AM2+ board, have loads of fun and just sit back slowly and upgrade when AM3 and RD890 are available. More expensive in the end I guess, but well, being impatient for the win/lose (depends how you look at it:p:)
Is that your CPU or what:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
:DCongrats! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Benches? Experiences? :D
Didn't the Aussie place that had them listed briefly say the 16th December? Theres a uk place that has them listed now, £231 for the 940, £190 or so for the 920, and say the 15th December also, so maybe its out earlier than expected? It does make sense its "that" soon as the latest price drop was very very soon after the last price drop and looks to be clearing out the 9950's(which dropped to £130 in the uk yesterday from £150ish) leaving the field clear for a couple new phenom's to enter the market.
Almost certainly going to get one on release as long as prices aren't utterly ridiculous in the UK, which at £231 isn't exactly cheap compared to $300.
How are phenom's doing with fsb overclocking, I had a 9600BE ages ago and other than the board being a pain fsb overclocking was limited to say the list, are you screwing yourself by buying a non unlocked multi chip? I think what AMD really needs and can increase enthusiast sales a lot(if fsb clocking is an issue) is a lower end multi unlocked chip, or hell, make the whole range unlocked and maybe just make the black edition ultra binned chips or something if they must. Having to pay £230 to get a great clock with unlocked multi doesn't sound half as nice as paying £100 for a lower quad and overclocking the bejesus out of it.
As I posted yesterday in the Folding Team thread - I am also waiting to place my order for a 940 to replace my cr*ppy 9600 B2 which is a dog with the TLB patch. I also made the mistake of buying the MSI K9A2 CF-F v1 MB with voltage regulators which cannot handle 125w CPUs, so it will have to go and so far there is no MSI MB with 790FX+SB750.
Given the only UK prices listed so far (940 BE is approx 231GBP) I think it's a bargain compared to going over to Core i7 :)
Will buy pretty much an entire new rig (just keeping the 4870). Only thing I don't know is will it be a good overclocker. If not, Intel for me.
I passed over the 65nm release for the 45nm one so I'll be getting one as soon as overclockers has them in stock...:up:
Initial indications are that the 940 Black Edition (3.0Ghz) will do 4Ghz on air and more with better cooling!Quote:
Originally Posted by Motiv
Yeah I've seen those reports. I'll beleive it once a few people on here show their results prior to Jan 6th. I'm sure you'll agree a couple of AMD sponsored events and some less than reliable sites are not a good indication of how well it will overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ_64
Saying that, even the more reliable sources have been stating the thing overclocks well. So perhaps we'll have a decent product on our hand.
I'm still unsure what to pair the CPU to. So far I'm looking at the Foxconn A79A-s but it's a tad expensive for my liking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Come on, don't be shy :rofl:
Must be hard to fullfill NDA with all those estimations flying around. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
(in a deep southern accent) why, you little....****Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
where were you hiding that? between your cheeks?
sweet niblets!:D thats some good hinting right there:up:.......on a side note that heatspreader sure does have some weird high edges for the heatsink to deal with......looks like it needs to be lapped:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
which cheeks?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by soundood
fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by drunkenmaster
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.
I just wanted to make a correction in my above post about fsb. After going through my notes my increase in performance in spi 1m going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz was actually .300 less not 1-2 seconds. I got a decrease of 1-2 seconds from a combination of fsb/nb frequency/ht link/timings and AOD green button. These all contributed to a 1-2 second decrese in spi 1M.....biggest factor in it though was the actual cpu speed. but thats for spi 1M now in Sandra memory Bandwidth going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz my score went from
INT 11,796 to 12,981
Float 11,809 to 13,014
about 1,200mb increase from a 400mhz increase in HT and NB.
i will buy the 940 as quickly as possible and put it in my dq6 + watercooling.
if the dq6 fails to oc, i will buy a 750sb board.
im not gonna wait for a little bit more bandwidth and 5% more fps on am3 boards.
I'm already on my timeframe for an upgrade, I have new PSU ad the mobo just arrived, next month will be the Phenom II X4 940 BE month for me :D
I see a lot of folks expecting results from non SB750 boards, be interesting to see how that plays out.
As soon as they get to Canada I will place an order for the 940. which means i probably won't see it until 3-4 weeks after the release since Canada doesn't get anything!!!
Hopefully newegg.ca will have some great prices like they do for the current Phenoms!
current ones are 40 bucks cheaper than tiger or ncix
Well I still have my DFI 790FX-M2R w/SB600 and I'll be sure to at least give it a shot when the new chips hit the market before deciding on a new mobo for my system.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ
Bought one of the last foxconn boards on newegg but a friend's blew out so he bought it off me. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Titan7171;3468569]
fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhz
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.
QUOTE]
I was less worried about performance from actually running the fsb high but more wondering how far you could push a lower clocked cheaper non black edition chip if you're limited to overclocking on the fsb, rather than the multiplier.
I really think AMD will get a well obviously not lots of business, but a lot of enthusiasts would considering AMD which gets their name out a little more and more people talking about them, if you could pick up there cheapest quad and clock the hell out of it. IE a 2.2Ghz £100 quad that you can whack the multi up and run at 4Ghz if you want/can. Back to the good old multiplier unlocked as standard days, frankly when they've had completely unlocked multipliers is when more people play with them and their name is seen more often on forums all over.
The 2.8Ghx 920 isn't much of a saving, though £40 isn't bad, if it could fairly easily do 280Mhz at a 14multiplier, thats not at all bad, but a 2.2Ghz quad at 280Mhz wouldn't be quite as good.
When the 940 comes out, i'm going to buy one! Sold my 9750 and got a cheap (22 euro) 3800 x2 just to wait until it releases.
** TOTALLY OFF TOPIC **Quote:
Originally Posted by drunkenmaster
But great to see an XS old timer back posting
:up:
Welcome back dude
;)
Oh by all means no...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
... mine s even better (0843 BPMW) :p:
Could you please tell some words about it? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
That's what the X3 720 is for. Cheaper unlocked OCing.Quote:
Originally Posted by drunkenmasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I was less worried about performance from actually running the fsb high but more wondering how far you could push a lower clocked cheaper non black edition chip if you're limited to overclocking on the fsb, rather than the multiplier.
I really think AMD will get a well obviously not lots of business, but a lot of enthusiasts would considering AMD which gets their name out a little more and more people talking about them, if you could pick up there cheapest quad and clock the hell out of it. IE a 2.2Ghz £100 quad that you can whack the multi up and run at 4Ghz if you want/can. Back to the good old multiplier unlocked as standard days, frankly when they've had completely unlocked multipliers is when more people play with them and their name is seen more often on forums all over.
The 2.8Ghx 920 isn't much of a saving, though £40 isn't bad, if it could fairly easily do 280Mhz at a 14multiplier, thats not at all bad, but a 2.2Ghz quad at 280Mhz wouldn't be quite as good.
Well, you also have a Athlon X4 series @2.7Ghz for cheap, probably cheaper than the X3 720 as naming nomenclature/model naming goes. :)
Hopefully AMD will release a 3Ghz or 3.2Ghz 45nm dual core later, if unlocked will be even perkier.
look forward to this:up::up:Quote:
Originally Posted by TiTON
Well there are quite a few of us in this thread planning to get a Phenom II ....
I posted a Poll in the XS Folding Team thread and so far the majority are going for Core i7 - please add your support for the Green corner (or are we Red now?)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=209498
i wonder if we can get enough people here who want one to do a mass order for a good discount
You know what... seeing your post is like going to a strip club.. you get all worked up for what ya see,.. and go home with nothing but your imagintaion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
I plan to buy once we know the best stepping. Can you specify stepping through NewEgg? If not who is the best online store for stepping specification?
yeah i was about to ask, how is that foxconn 790gx board.. A7DA-S right? it seems perfect to me, but i haven't really found conclusive evidence on its overclocking potential and BIOS options. Does anyone here have this board to give some input? It's dirt cheap in comparison, and that's a great selling point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Voted! and I'd say we're the Christmas corner now. In all seriousness I'm still torn about getting the AM2+ version or waiting on the AM3 setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ_64
You suck. I hope you drop your cellphone in the toilet :-).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
(kidding)
I'll order one as soon as I can; I'm putting my 9850 in a Linux box that's waiting for it and the PHII (pronounced fee?) will be my primary desktop for 2009. Come summer of 2010, it'll be time for the next upgrade... I may at that time get an Intel system if AMD hasn't come back around..
I normally upgrade around x-mas but this year I guess it will be whenever newegg has one of the 920's or 940's in stock depending on price I hope to see that the 920 does about as good as the 940 but chances are I will end up going all out and getting a sb750 to replace my msi and a 940 just waiting for them to be listed in about 1 month 1 week or so....
I can see me picking one up end of january.
I can also see me getting an AM3 CPU and mobo as well when they arrive, just because I've got a spare DDR3 kit and a 3870 doing nothing.
Depends on the reviews. I'll almost assuredly be getting one, but not right off the bat. Probably wait till Feb/March.
IF I can get one cheap quado with a AM2+ mobo which has ability to undervolt the CPU. Phenom II seems indeed interesting.
AMD should also drop the dual cores and just go with tri and quads this way for the same or less money as intel dually you can get a AMD tri core.
The duals will stick around for a bit more especially with their low power setups just to keep themselves in that market. But it seems that each new release there are fewer and fewer dual core sku's coming out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
SameQuote:
Originally Posted by Particle
i posted this in the 'best phonom mobo' thread..Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
hope this helps, pm me if you have any specific q'sQuote:
i have this board. it lacks some bios options but has still been great. i am running my 9850 right now in vista 64 at 15.5x200 3.1ghz with 1.36vcore prime stable with max temps 45-47c , and i can get it stable up to around 3.4 range with 1.48vcore max temps 53-55c (ran it for awhile @ 14x240 3.36ghz 1.48vcore - could go 3.4 if i loosened my ram timings - thats w/ ht and nb multi's @ 10 so they were both 2400)
i cant decide if i want to get a new board or use this one when this new wonder chip gets released :p:
I think we have another A7DA-S board waiting for tomorrow's testing session :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
I'm getting 940BE ASAP!!
I just hope to get it before Christmas, because otherwise I will have little time to test new toy properly...
I'm so in. Going to start the new AM2+ Rig this week
Phenom II 940 Black Edition + my current M3A78= Me Happy. I will have one as soon as Newegg or TigerDirect has them in shops. I will also have Phenom II's in all my system by this summer.
There is an english version in OKTABIT's forum regarding the Phenom II upcoming review. Check it out, several HARD tests will be uploaded soon...:up:
1nf3c710n = /noob :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1nf3c710n
Another generic Q6600 user.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nf3c710n
maybe not a n00b but was damned sure looking to start a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
I just gave him an infraction and PM'd him this:
Your comment that Intel=win and AMD=fail is trolling my friend.
When you say something like that in the AMD section it just yells that your looking to incite peoples emotions.
Do NOT do that again.
Thanks for reading,
Dave
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming!:up:
Oh come on Dave, I was just trying out the new insecticide!
Thanks much. :)
roflmao you guys :D
so when is anyone gonna be getting one of these chip's there has to be one or to samples out there being tested?
I am planing to get one 940 as soon as possible :up:
Probably two more phenom II in february :)
when is the official release for phenom II anyway?
any early benches?
nope not a thing, havent seen a thing on theses forums at all, its as if there was never a chip, in fact it could be vapourware given the non information in this forums threadsQuote:
Originally Posted by saki_bomber
:rofl:
Since they are available for shipping at first in february, i'm thinking about getting an 7750BE (K10 65nm 2x2.7GHz unlocked) meanwhile.
920 (2.8) and 940 (3.0 maybe BE) for AM2+ are due to be released on Jan 8th
Check Face's post in the news section. Acording to ocworkbench you can preorder in jan but you will get it around feb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ_64
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/amd/P..._X4-info-1.htm
I believe that this february shipping date is bulls**t. I heard some whispering which said that the AMD has already shipping the two new modells for the bigger warehouses.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Just look at this cap. The AMD has been manufacturing these CPUs from early october (at least).
I hope you are right. I'd expect the delay is caused more likely by bios issues than manufracturing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
The retail CPUs are already around, so for me it looks like OCWB just misinterpreted some slides and 9th Jan. we will have a hard launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
AMD would need to do another respin to delay CPU availability to Feb. (of course possible)
If the prices on 9950be come down more after deneb launch I will probly buy another 65nm in Jan. and wait till AM3 for deneb. My 65nm chips are from feb/march and from what I have been seeing theres allot to gain from a later 65nm chip. Of course it all depends on how much the price drops.
I will unless it underperforms a Q9450 then I might just wait for AM3s to come around.
I got a mail today from the shop where I pre-ordered my 940BE saying they expect it to arrive 18th of December (yes, 2008:p:).
Reconsidering the other two shops where pre-orders said 16th and 18th December (IIRC), I think something else is going on. Although this shop ain't always right, but you wont tell me that a shop makes an ETA of 18-12-08 while we actually only get it on 4th of Feb, or anything over 8th of Jan:confused:
Also thinking about the earlier release of Shanghai... I dont know, I dont want to get too hyped before this shop is indeed wrong, but somehow this sounds very contradicting:rolleyes:
i have just been curious as to why amd has changed their naming system. they had that 5 digit system that no one liked and then they changed it to pretty much the same as intel. doesn't intel have a i7 920 and amd have a phenom II 920? and both have a 940 as well? i haven't followed nehalem but if that is true it could be confusing.
I think it's a great idea. Maybe AMD's numbers match the performance of the Intel products. That makes it easier for the average joe when making a purchase. This way people will know what time of performance to expect. Well, a ball park figure atleast.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper